Significant moment in talk us through what is going to happen. Talk us through what is going to happen talk us through what is going to happen. For the last couple of hours mps to happen. For the last couple of hours mps have to happen. For the last couple of hours mps have been to happen. For the last couple| of hours mps have been voting in a room and what is known as Committee Corridor in the house of commons, voting opened at one and closed at three so they will be counting those and there are the four candidates who have run through, Robert Jenrick, kemi badenoch, James Cleverly and Tom Tugendhat. Whoever gets the lowest number of votes is eliminated and the final three will go through to another and final round of Voting Tomorrow which will whittle it down to the final two candidates, he will go on to the conservative membership where there will be a ballot that will last until The End of the month to pick the eventual winner who gets announced On November the 2nd. It really is all over. And other hustings held earlier, there very last chance to try and convince some of those mps to swing behind them, but that is it, that is them, but that is it, that is the last time they can make their pitch. Todays voting and tomorrows voting. Their pitch. Todays voting and tomorrows voting. What does it mean . Talk tomorrows voting. What does it mean . Talk us tomorrows voting. What does it mean . Talk us through tomorrows voting. What does it mean . Talk us through which i mean . Talk us through which candidates represent a rich perspective within The Party . Very broadly, they split into two camps. You have got coming from the more centrist part of The Party, Tom Tugendhat and James Cleverly. On the right of The Party you have got Robert Jenrick and kemi badenoch. The voting is under way and has just finished now. We voting is under way and has just finished now. Voting is under way and has just finished now. We are going to take you just finished now. We are going to take you straight just finished now. We are going to take you straight to just finished now. We are going to take you straight to the to take you straight to the studios of radio five live. Borisjohnson will be interviewed by matt charlie. This is our bbc. This is bbc radio 5 live. This is our bbc. This is bbc radio 5 live. Listen this is our bbc. This is bbc radio 5 live. Listen on this is our bbc. This is bbc radio 5 live. Listen on bbc| radio 5 live. Listen on bbc sounds radio 5 live. Listen on bbc sounds. Good radio 5 live. Listen on bbc sounds. Good afternoon, L Radio 5 live. Listen on Bbc L sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as i sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as i am i sounds. Good afternoon, life i sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as i i sounds. Good afternoon, life from westminster as i am i sounds. Good afternoon, life i from westminster as i am every afternoon and joined by our from westminster as i am every afternoon and joined by our friends at the Bbc News friends at the Bbc News channel. My guest this channel. My guest this afternoon needs no afternoon needs no introduction. Everyone knows Who Ee is and has a view on introduction. Everyone knows Who Ee is and has a view on him. He is the hero who him. He is the hero who delivered brexit or the villain delivered brexit or the villain who delivered brexit. He is the who delivered brexit. He is the Hero Or Villain who delivered Hero Or Villain who delivered the Covid Vaccine or The Party the Covid Vaccine or The Party had put us into lockdown. He had put us into lockdown. He broke election records in 2019 broke election records in 2019 be ,. ,. , and break more records when his and break more records when his ministers resigned forcing him ministers resigned forcing him from office. Now he has from office. Now he has released a book amongst any released a book amongst any many other things, the first many other things, the first Prime Minister with the memoir Prime Minister with the memoir to use the word hundreds. To use the word hundreds. Badenoch. I badenoch. I to use the word hundreds. Badenoch to use the word hundreds. Badenoch to use the word hundreds. Badenoch. ,. , badenoch. I am sure other prime to use the word hundreds. Badenoch. ,. , badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used the badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used the word i minister have badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used the badenoch. I am sure other Prime Minister have used the word i minister have used the Word Minister have used the word chundered. It is a pleasure to chundered. It is a pleasure to be on your show and i empty australian Prime Minister must have used chundered. Have used chundered. British. He didnt have used chundered. British. He didnt say have used chundered. British. He didnt say british. Have used chundered. British. He didnt say british. I have used chundered. British. He didnt say british. I think. May well have. I want to say to our listeners, this is the first Bbc Interview i have done for a long time and certainly the first i have done about this book. I want everybody to know i have not had to of your questions in advance because i was going to do one the other day and it lieu up on the launch pad. I didnt know you are going to ask about chundering. Are going to ask about chunderinu. G ,. , chundering. My experience of readin chundering. My experience of reading your chundering. My experience of reading your book chundering. My experience of reading your book is chundering. My experience of reading your book is even i chundering. My experience of reading your book is even if. Chundering. My experience of reading your book is even if i | reading your book is even if i had sent to the notes, you may not have read of them. Whose fault is that you are sitting here in the studio are not up the road in number ten . You will find the the road in number ten . You will find the answer the road in numberten . 7m. Will find the answer within the pages of my book. The awful truth is a large share of the responsibility is mine, though there were other factors. And what the book is trying to explain is why i believe in the things i have tried to do, my belief in Britain And Belief in a certain type of national independence and standing up for our values abroad like in ukraine. But running through the whole thing is a narrative about levelling up, which is where i think, them amongst others. You played them all in the book. All in the book. Blaine is a tou~h all in the book. Blaine is a tough word. All in the book. Blaine is a tough word. All in the book. Blaine is a tough word. Blame. I all in the book. Blaine is a tough word. Blame. Al all in the book. Blaine is a l tough word. Blame. A lot all in the book. Blaine is a i tough word. Blame. A lot of tough word. Blame. A lot of them at different times did good stuff. A lot of them were responsible for delivering the type of brexit that i believed in, because there is no point in, because there is no point in doing brexit if you are not going to take back control. I worry about the politics of not being as close to our Eu Partners and i worry about people being upset about it, but the only reason for doing it is if you take advantage of the freedoms, and that is why i sent her on this back Seat Role out and the real possibility that we had because of the type of brexit we delivered, took lessons those vaccines early and to rule them out. And inoculate people faster and save lives. Inoculate people faster and save lives. , save lives. On november the 18th 2020, save lives. On november the 18th 2020, the save lives. On november the 18th 2020, the nhra, save lives. On november the 18th 2020, the nhra, the I 18th 2020, the nhra, the british body that registered these things, were talking about the imminent results from the vaccine and it made quite clear that if any vaccines had been approved by the European Medicines agency, they would have been valid in the uk, and it makes clear in the statement, if a Covid Vaccine candidate had been found to be safe and effective, Eu Legislation allows for temporary authorisation of supply in the uk based on the public health needs, so we could do that. We hadnt left the eu by that point. And you have been posting it was possible because of brexit, and the truth is we were still in the truth is we were still in the eu at that point because we were in the Transition Period and under those rules, we were allowed to do what we did. I allowed to do what we did. I know, but i dont believe for a second. I dont believe for a second. I dont believe for a second we would have done. That is a different second we would have done. That is a different point. Second we would have done. That is a different point. Because i is a different point. Because we would is a different point. Because we would have is a different point. Because we would have been is a different point. Because we would have been within l is a different point. Because i we would have been within the Eu Vaccines roll out programme, we would have been part of the whole Approval System and it just would not have happened in the same way. Just would not have happened in the same way the same way. This goes to the heart of a the same way. This goes to the heart of a lot. The same way. This goes to the heart of a lot. Dont the same way. This goes to the heart of a lot. Dont forget. I heart of a lot. Dont forget. You say things which are just about in the chest. You say things which are ust about in the chesti about in the chest. Lets put it the other about in the chest. Lets put it the other way about in the chest. Lets put it the other way around. I about in the chest. Lets put i it the other way around. What happened is all the vaccines were authorised, approved by the eme at the same time. So for the whole of the rest of the 27 other countries, you have to believe. The 27 other countries, you have to believe. The 27 other countries, you have to believe. You had the ower have to believe. You had the power in have to believe. You had the power in special have to believe. You had the. Power in special circumstances, it says on this piece of paper, Eu Legislation allows for temporary authorisation for supply in the uk based on public health news. You could have done it. We public health news. You could have done it. Have done it. We would have been locked have done it. We would have been locked in have done it. We would have been locked in the have done it. We would have been locked in the eu i have done it. We would have | been locked in the Eu Vaccine roll out programme and it is. We would have been part of the en a. D0 we would have been part of the en a. Y. , we would have been part of the ena. , en a. Do you accept under the rules you en a. Do you accept under the rules you could en a. Do you accept under the rules you could have en a. Do you accept under the rules you could have done i en a. Do you accept under the rules you could have done it . | en a. Do you accept under the| rules you could have done it . I dont believe for a second it would happen becausejust would happen because just remembered would happen becausejust remembered defects, 27 other countries stuck with the ema and its timetable. They were the only country that did not because we had come out of the ema and we had voted several times, Underthe Ema and we had voted several times, under the previous administration, underteresa, administration, under teresa, Keir Starmer and others administration, underteresa, Keir Starmer and others voted to stay within the ema. Do you believe for a second that if we hadnt done brexit. But believe for a second that if we hadnt done brexit. Hadnt done brexit. But you could have hadnt done brexit. But you could have done. Hadnt done brexit. But you could have done. But hadnt done brexit. But you could have done. But i i could have done. But i delivered could have done. But i delivered brexit i could have done. But i delivered brexit i was could have done. But i i delivered brexit i was a brexited. I delivered brexit i was a brexited. Delivered brexit i was a brexited. ,. , brexited. I have made the point and other people brexited. I have made the point and other people can brexited. I have made the point and other people can judge i brexited. I have made the point and other people can judge it. | and other people canjudge it. We had a totally different approach and we were able to make use of our freedoms to do things differently. That saved lives. I things differently. That saved lives. Things differently. That saved lives. ,. ,. , things differently. That saved lives. ,. , | lives. I have made the point. I do not believe lives. I have made the point. I do not believe for lives. I have made the point. I do not believe for one lives. I have made the point. I| do not believe for one second, i want to get bogged down on it. I i want to get bogged down on it. , �. ,. ,. , it. I dont want to get bogged down on that. It. I dont want to get bogged down on that. I it. I dont want to get bogged down on that. I bet it. I dont want to get bogged down on that. I bet you i it. I dont want to get bogged| down on that. I bet you dont. Wh do down on that. I bet you dont. Why do you down on that. I bet you dont. Why do you think down on that. I bet you dont. Why do you think 27 down on that. I bet you dont. Why do you think 27 other why do you think 27 other countries stayed with the ema . Because they work with the eu. Ellison has been in touch and says do you regret not taking a premiership seriously . I have read the book, unlike some of the other people who have interviewed you about it, in part it is very funny, enthusiastic and optimistic, but you do come across as unserious. I but you do come across as unserious but you do come across as unserious. , �. ,. , unserious. I dont want to cast an unnecessarily unserious. I dont want to cast an unnecessarily serious i unserious. I dont want to cast an unnecessarily serious palll an unnecessarily serious pall over events, orthis over events, or this conversation, but over events, orthis conversation, but do you think it is unserious to have defeated the real threat of a marxist or semi marxist government in this country, tainted as the Labour Party then was by anti semitism, seen it off in the way we did . Do you think it is unserious to have the fastest vaccine will not in europe so we were able to vaccinate about 45 of our population by March Of 2010 . Protect huge numbers of people that were not being protected in other european countries, elderly and vulnerable people . I do not think it is frivolous to have led the campaign, by the way, to protect the independence of another european country, the Freedom And Sovereignty and integrity of ukraine. That was extremely difficult in the uk did it with a great deal of success, and i dont think it was a trivial thing to have delivered the Sovereignty And Independence of our own country. No, look, there is contained within your question is a legitimate question is a legitimate question about how to approach politics and how to get people to listen to you. And there is no earthly point in expecting people to listen and understand what your political message is, unless you try to. It what your political message is, unless you try to. Unless you try to. It is not about language, unless you try to. It is not about language, it unless you try to. It is not about language, it is i unless you try to. It is not about language, it is about| about language, it is about some of the decisions you took. This is your listener who said this . ,. ,. ,. , this . No, having had that question. This . No, having had that question. I this . No, having had that question, i reflected i this . No, having had that question, i reflected on l this . No, having had that. Question, i reflected on the book. Injune 2016, after brexit, you the frontrunner to become prime everyone expects you to become Prime Minister. Instead he went and played cricket because in your words, it would have been rude to counsel and there was a magnificent lunch. When you met Joe Biden for the first time, your gift to him was a photograph you had printed off wikipedia. fin Photograph you had printed off wiki edia. Photograph you had printed off wikiedia. , � , wikipedia. On that british taxoayers wikipedia. On that british taxoayers i wikipedia. On that british taxpayers i it wikipedia. On that british taxpayers i it would i wikipedia. On that british taxpayers i it would be i taxpayers i it would be gratefulfor taxpayers i it would be grateful for the fact we were not lavishing money unnecessarily on gifts. Back to Sto |n~ unnecessarily on gifts. Back to Stopping the unnecessarily on gifts. Back to Stopping the vaccines unnecessarily on gifts. Back to Stopping the vaccines out i unnecessarily on gifts. Back to | Stopping the vaccines out other warehouse in the netherlands, you as Prime Minister spend your evenings looking on Google Earth to see if you could mount a Military Invasion of the netherlands. That is not serious. Netherlands. That is not serious netherlands. That is not serious. , ~ ,. , serious. Let me take your first accusation. Serious. Let me take your first accusation, which serious. Let me take your first accusation, which was serious. Let me take your first accusation, which was about l accusation, which was about 2016. ~. , 2016. When the going gets tou h, 2016. When the going gets tough. You 2016. When the going gets tough, you sometimes i 2016. When the going gets tough, you sometimes act| 2016. When the going gets i tough, you sometimes act the volley. Tough, you sometimes act the volle. ,. , tough, you sometimes act the volle. I. ,. , tough, you sometimes act the volle. ,. ,. , volley. Do you want me to ask the question volley. Do you want me to ask the question or volley. Do you want me to ask the question or not . Volley. Do you want me to ask the question or not . Thats i the question or not . Thats right answer. We had the referendum which was called by the government. When the government calls a referendum, you expect them to have a plan for either outcome. [30 you expect them to have a plan for either outcome. For either outcome. Do you . There seems for either outcome. Do you . There seems to for either outcome. Do you . There seems to beat for either outcome. Do you . There seems to beat your i for either outcome. Do you . I there seems to beat your client now, but you foot powered you put forward a plan. He published a detailed plan of what you thought brexit looked like. �. ,. , what you thought brexit looked like. �. ,. , what you thought brexit looked like. ,. , like. But what you are saying is we should like. But what you are saying is we should have like. But what you are saying is we should have had i like. But what you are saying is we should have had a i is we should have had a detailed plan to take over the government. I heard what you said. Sorry, that is what you said. Sorry, that is what you said. This is your show. People were looking said. This is your show. People were looking to said. This is your show. People were looking to you said. This is your show. People were looking to you to said. This is your show. People were looking to you to lead i said. This is your show. People j were looking to you to lead the country after the brexit foot. You have got to pay attention to what you are asking, because you havejust to what you are asking, because you have just accuse to what you are as