anti—government. we saw that in the 1990s in the united states with the oklahoma city bombing, and it looks like we're seeing a resurgence of that again. that's interesting. and given your experience with the fbi, et cetera, how do you go about — and in this case, how was this group infiltrated, tracked down or whatever? so the good thing about these groups is that they tend to really utilise social media. and because of that, they leave a digital footprint. and it looks to me and what i've seen is this particular group, the wolverine watchmen, have been on the fbi's radarfor a long time, maybe since the start of 2020. i don't believe the plot to kidnap the governor was started in early 2020. however, they were obviously engaging in online activity that was alarming and had probably been reported by a user to the fbi.