from it what they want to take. is he keenly aware, first of all, is he disappointed and secondly and he says repeatedly in this interview he knows he let a lot of people down. and when you see something like this, which he believes he could have prevented from happening, yeah, he feel as tremendous sense of frustration. >> shepard: it was his fault he lost, in my opinion. he didn't do what he had to do to close the deal and he didn't take advantage of the benghazi/libya situation and the foreign policy debate. he came off as detached from reality and didn't show the people an urgency that certainly he could have shown with the economy and the general tenure of the country being so disorganized. did he take personal responsibility in the interview with you for the loss? >> oh, absolutely. because i asked him about some things the campaign did wrong. and while he acknowledges that, he says, look, every strategic decision in this campaign i made, i take full responsibility for it it but the one place i disagree with you, bill, is, you know, it's not like