conservatives sort of saying what's the big deal? trayvon threw the first punch that is oversimplifying what happened. >> it really is. the idea do you have a the right to walk home from a grocery store at night and not have an overzealous person feel that he had to protect his community? i think the "stand your ground" law of florida, received a lot of publicity. a lot of attention. and i think it is interesting that the president himself did not put this, did not frame this issue in terms of a racial crime. he talked about a lot of other things, including gun violence but he did not talk about race. jon: but the media have also been making heavy use of the pictures that the family first trotted out when this unfortunate case happened where trayvon is this innocent and angelic little kid, 12 years old. that is the picture often shown of him. in fact he was 17. he was much bigger than george martin and he had been suspended from school for a graffiti incident in which they inspected his backpack and found a bunch