>> a lot of skepticism. we asked two questions. is this an important reason to keep u.s. troops in afghanistan to build a stable democracy. >> from scratch. from below scratch, we would say. >> do you think any democracy is made on that front and no, they don't think there is progress being made in building a stable democracy and lots more support for keeping u.s. support there to fight the taliban and especially fight terrorists who might use that against americans. but more skepticisms about the idea of building a stable democracy there. >> joe klein, in your latest reporting in your column you said most of the whoha of obama's strategy review is smoke and mirrors. the request for 40,000 more troops is just that, an option. your point, there are a lot of options on the table and that this has been oversimplified, i think, in our reporting. >> i think that there are at least three options on the table. 10,000 troops, 25,000 troops,