>> and he started screaming through the phone that we had no right to be there, to get off the property immediately. i tried to stay calm. i said, steve, we have to talk. we have to work this out. you and i have to work this out. people are dying. people are hurt. we need to stop the shooting. >> soon, cavanaugh is talking directly with david koresh. >> everything is okay. it's you and me and that is the main thing. because you care for people and you're sincere and honest. >> i care about my father. >> i had a radio mike in one ear with an agent pleading for his life, and i had this guy on the phone who thought he was god. >> checking now our top stories on prime news. in waco, texas, at least four federal agents are dead and 14 are injured in a shoot-out with members of a religious cult. >> it takes negotiators two and a half hours to gain a