how elitist can you get? how many americans can afford a dancing horse, a groomer a trainer and fly that horse all the way to london. the worst yet is he gets a 70,000 dollar tax deduction which means you and i are paying for that damn horse. we will talk about that and a whole lot more. first we start out with today's current news update and lisa ferguson out of los angeles. good morning, lease a. >> good morning, bill. good morning, everyone. the candidates are back on the campaign trail after a weekend truce following the colorado shooting. the president is campaigning in portland and seattle today. in nevada yesterday, he addressed the veterans of foreign wars convention where he blamed the g.o.p. for playing politics with military defense cuts. republicans are coming out against the scheduled cut backs even though deal passed with bi-partisan support last year. during his evening fundraisers in oakland, the president pressed back accusing romney of twisting his words to say he does not value small business. >> when folks omit entire sentences of what you said they start kind of splicing and dicing, you may have gone a little over the edge there. >> romney has been using the president's you didn't build that statement to paint him as anti-business and out of touch. as for romney, he is be headed to london for the start of the olympics and for a few fundraisers of his own. he is headed to israel and poland and will liable use those trips to show he can handle international politics but president obama isn't buying it. he took yesterday to criticize romney's foreign policy experience and his stance on afghanistan. he is speaking to veterans of foreign wars later today and speaking to undermining the current development strategy f the bill faces little chance in the senate. we are live in chat right now. current.com/billpress. vanguard: the documentary series that redefined tv journalism. >>we're going to places where few others are going. >>it doesn't get anymore real than this. >>occupy! >>we will have class warfare. >>i'm being violated by the health-care system. >>we're patrolling the area looking for guns, drugs, bodies. >>we go in and spend a considerable amount of time getting to know the people and the characters that are actually living these stories. >>the award winning series "vanguard" only on current tv. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. if you have copd like i do you know how hard it can be to breathe and what that feels like. copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. spiriva helps control my copd symptoms by keeping my airways open a full 24 hours. plus, it reduces copd flare-ups. spiriva is the only once-daily inhaled copd maintenance treatment that does both. and it's steroid-free. spiriva does not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms. tell your doctor if you have kidney problems glaucoma, trouble urinating, or an enlarged prostate. these may worsen with spiriva. discuss all medicines you take, even eye drops. stop taking spiriva and seek immediate medical help if your breathing suddenly worsens your throat or tongue swells you get hives, vision changes or eye pain, or problems passing urine. other side effects include dry mouth and constipation. nothing can reverse copd. spiriva helps me breathe better. does breathing with copd weigh you down? ask your doctor if spiriva can help. 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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> broadcasting across the nation, on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> what do you know? barack obama and romney agree on one thing. neither one want to talk about gun control. too bad. dy. it is tuesday, tuesday, july 24th t great to see you today. welcome to the full-court press. starting the day off on current tv on local talk radio station and on sirius xm this hour and starting your day wherever you happen to be in this great land of ours, getting up getting breakfast, ready to jump in the car or hahning out at the house good to have you with us. or they. good to have you with us. thanks for being part of the full-court press as we bring you the big stories of the day here from our nation's capitol around the country. president obama on the road. he was in oakland, california, at reno yesterday at the vfw annual meeting and then in oakland for a couple of campaign events, spent the night in san francisco at the intercontinental hotel and today, et cetera off to portland and seattle. bringing you up to date with his full schedule a little bit later. here in washington congress basically doing nothing except accusing president obama of not doing enough on jobs or not going to israel as part of his first term. whatever that means t mitt rom person inning leaving today for the olympics and then on to israel and to poland. so we have of course the alleged killer in aurora colorado in court yesterday and kind of looking weird, the weirdest color of harris think i ever saw on anybody. lots to talk about. we will get to all of it eventually over the next three hours and take your calls at 866-55-press. peter ogburn and dan henning along for the ride today. >> hey hey. >> we will cyprian bowlding our videographer. >> everybody is here. happy tuesday. >> right. we lost another great american yesterday, sally ride, 1983, became the first woman to go into space for part of the nasa astronaut program succumbed to pan ce attic cancer in la hoja calf. president obama hailed her as a role model for american girls and women and say he taught all young girls like his daughters to reach for the stars. sally ride talking about what it meant to be such a pioneer. >> it meant a lot to me to have the opportunity to go into space, and it meant a lot to me to be first woman that was chosen. >> she was a wonderful lady. >> fascinating. >> yeah. >> that whole thing. to think 61. >> right but she played a role after that, on several commission, national committees looking to the space program and everything. those press people like john glenn and scott carpenter and sally ride, names we always remember as pine easier in america's space program. got a big line-up for you today. dave zyron who covers sports for the nation magazine to talk about penn state. judd lagam, tuesdays with judd from think progress will be here. chuck came with our friends at buzz feed here on the full-court press every tuesday. chris geitner from buzz feed will be with us as well just a little bit later. so let's get right to it. but first: >> this is the full court press. >> i am indeed. other headlines making news mup muppets are eating let's chicken the jim hen scenario company is ending its relationship with chick-fil-a after they reiterated anti-game. they had offered muppet toys but no more. in a statement the company says their ceo, lisa henson is a strong supporter of gay marriage and they are giving all monies they receive from the partnership to glad the gay and lesbian alliance. >> the muppets are the best. they are so good. >> on the only for gay marriage but inter species. kerrmit and ms. piggy. >> they are ahead of their time. >> good for them. >> willard is not going to jail. the improv actor. >> going to the movies. >> arrested for lewd conduct in an adult movie theater can avoices time by enrolling in a counseling program that costs him about 400 bucks. he and his attorney maintain he did nothing wrong. >> isn't it stupid for the cops to be trolling adult movie tharts? why do people go there, you know? >> and. >> i would hasten to say, in los angeles, i think they have more important things to do. >> happy belated birthday at the museum in washington. washington post reports nancy pelosi hosted mcgovern who ran for president 40 years ago. also there dick durbin steny hoyer and more. >> george mcgovern. some people are still willing to say they voted for him. he is a great guy and a great american. the hammer fell on penn state yesterday. eager to know what you think about it. we talked yesterday morning about the fact that the hammer was about to fall on the ncaa mark emmet, the president of the ncaa who had the news conference after our show ended yesterday morning, we expected. there were rumors that penn state might get the death penalty, meaning, of course all football would be banned from the campus for a few years at any rate. as it ended up. they didn't get the death penalty. i think they got worst because they are dead but they are still alive. yeah, but they are dead. you know what i mean? it's sort of like the in-between land where they can play football, but they can't really reap all of the rewards of it. so mark emmet yesterday, let's start with what he said was just a zero tolerance for the kind of permissive -- for the kind of criminal behavior and willingness to kind of cover it up and go along with it that penn state exhibited. >> you can make clear that the culture, actions and inactions that allowed them to be victimized will not be tolerated in collegiate athlet i could. >> we will not tolerate this. and he said, here is how well express our lack of tolerance for th kind of behavior. first of all, a pretty hefty fine. >> the ncaa is imposing a fine of $60 million on the university with the funds to be used to establish an en do youment to support programs around the nation that serve the victims of child sexual abuse and seek to prevent such abuse from happening. >> never been such a fine as that in college football. georgia tech was fined, washington post reports $100,000 in between. or gone state in 1984 was ordered to return the equivalent of a fine of $342,000. this is $60 million, which is probably what they make in a year. wouldn't you say, peter? >> i mean, look. colleges make a lot of money off of this stuff. but that could be the smart thing by saying, we are going to fine you and keep it. they are using that money. they are setting up centers and giving it to charities to help with victims of child abuse. >> right. >> that's the first. then, the other thing that they did was they took away -- and it's interesting. i am sure your local paper, too i am sure the washington post has it outlined $60 million fine, lost scholarships 20 -- penn state can give out only 15 new scholarships per year. the maximum allowed for other schools is 25. 15 a year for the next what? four years. >> yeah. >> which means they lose 40 scholarships that they cannot give out. they also cannot compete in any bowl championships. en if they win they can't compete in the bowl championship for the next four years and then the big thing is and here is mark emmet announcing it. they are going to strip joe paterno of his wins back to 199 yeah. >> the ncaa vacates all wins of the penn state football team from 1998 to 2011 and the records will reflect these changes. >> yes. and emmet explained that the reason they we want back to 1998 was because that's where the first incidents of child abuse was -- that we know of happened. and that's when the cover-up began. so they went back to there. and that's 112 wins for joe pattern on that, in effect, never happened. the books are going to be rewritten. history is going to be rewritten. they are just going to be wiped out. just like white out. just erase it. they never happened. never played. never won. joe paterno gets no credit for them forat all. the response to penn state's actions was pretty immediate, and all over the place. interesting that the president of penn state said, well it could have been worse. >> i felt that the option of really taking the sanctions as they were handed down would be -- would allow us to recover more quickly than having multiple years of the death penalty. >> yeah. so we will bend over and take it, says rodney erickson, the president of penn state. it was interesting. the washington post this morning, two columnists, trace hamilton, writes that she is so proud of the ncaa. at last, we have a new muscular ncaa and let me be the first to say, i like it. but mike weis writing on the same front page of the sports page of "the washington post" in the morning says this was a chance for mark emmitt to stand on the podium, send a resounding message that his organization matters in the real world, and he failed. he dropped the ball by not forbidding penn state to play football. so he doesn't think they went far enough. there are other voices that think they went too far. you know what? i don't know about you. i love to hear. 866-55-press. i am one of those in one respect. i think a fine was absolutely deserved. i think the bowl championships, absolutely denying this an opportunity to compete was deserved. take away the scholarships i have no problem with that. letting them continue to play okay. with those restrictions. the one i don't understand is vacating joe paterno's wins back to 1998. i don't honestly know how you can do that. okay. look. creep that he was. right? he won those games. he was coach for those games. they are in the winning column. you can't say the other team won. so i think it's a bad precedent, whether it's in politics or in business or whatever field of endeavor to try to rewrite history which is what they are doing. >> that's exactly what it is. >> i mean they are taking the score book and going back to all of those scores and god knows, right, college athletes -- i mean, college at legitimate i could is documented every play every gesture. right? certainly every winning score. and how can you go back and saysay, no, they didn't win that game when they did snft how can you go back and say, that coach didn't bring that team to victory when he did? i mean, again i am not defending joe paterno. i just think this is a pretty dangerous precedent, and i think it's wrong, and if they -- could you do that, let's say in major league sports? go back like the yankees have a winning season and say no they didn't win those 40 games. right? how can you do that? i don't think we would tolerate that. >> i don't think we should tolerate it with the ncaa. otherwise, i think penn state got what was coming to them. do you think they should have even been allowed to continue to play football and will they survive? will they be able to bounce back? let's get into it with 8 sick 6. 55 press. the ncaa drops the hammer. boom. >> this is the full court press, the bill press show, live on your radio and on current tv. 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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> you bet it is. thirty-three minutes after the hour, this tuesday morning july 24th. we are coming to you live from our nation's capitol brought to you today by the international association of iron workers. the iron workers, period. the sky's the limit for them. find out more about their great work at www.ironworkers.org. president walter weis and we appreciate their good support. taking your calls about penn state, ncaa dropping the hammer yesterday on penn state in a big way. some people say they didn't go far enough because they are allowed to play football. others saying they went too far. they should not have taking away joe paw's wins. back to your calls at 866-55 press. but first, president obama on an important west coast swing. we wanted to check in with a good friend down at the whitehouse, david jackson covers the white house for u.s.a. today. david, good morning. >> good morning, bill. >> yeah, so first of all, you want i wanted to ask about the president's response to the shootings in colorado. do you think he did the right thing by first of all, postponing campaign events and making a special trip to m