immunity at all and it should be part of the equation. >> martha: i think most people feel it is a part of the decision and want it to be accepted that way on a larger level when we discuss all this as a country. one more question. interesting to note the california versus florida record and you see all of these glowing media reports for gavin newsom. in california the numbers are dropping dramatically in terms of covid cases. same thing happened in florida. the reports coming out in different media outlets that applaud newsom and don't mention the recovery that has been very quick only two months in florida. what do you make of that? >> i think governor desantis is looking quite good now and his surge in general. pro-mask and pro-test and pro-testing. he rolled out the antibodies for people who got covid and kept them having milder cases. milder cases overall. the wave is down. lowest in the country in