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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren December 27, 2014



>> you two are going to be in a room alone with kim. >> we got the interview. >> the cia would love it if you could take him out. >> huh? >> take him out. >> like for drinks? >> like to continuer? >> on the town? >> no, take him out. >> you want us to kill the leader of north korea? >> yes. >> what an assignment. and fox new york entertainment reporter simone boyce joins us now to talk all about the interview. >> i have been following this story like a vulture. fascinating unprecedented scenario. this is the little movie that could. it was the target of this, you know, unprecedent cyber attack, vicious cyber attack and still managed to bring in a million dollars at the box office while playing in only 300 movie theaters. that's a very limited release. so, at the very least, this $1 million number is decent and at most it's pleasantly surprising considering all that this film was up against. after all the major movie chains like amc and region gel backed out. they were showing unbroken with 15 million. so maybe that's what the interview would have made in a parallel universe. >> all right. well, the review is getting a little bit of a mixed bag. right? what are you hearing? >> i saw the film. i'm a fan of seth rogan and his brand of comedy. it's kind of the same thing that you would expect from these guys. it's silly. a lot of potty humor. it's over the top. definitely not my favorite of the films. i thought that neighbors his may release this year was a lot funnier. ironic this mediocre silly comedy has sparked so much discussion and debate over freedom of expression. creative expression and also how we consume media it was released simultaneously online and also in theaters. and we may know never how much this movie was going to make because we have a these digital sales. >> so many people watched it at home. >> exactly. those numbers still haven't come out yet. it's the most popular video on youtube right now. let's say it cost 5.99 to rent the film. it's a million people watched it, that's $6 million. that's another $6 million right there. so, some of those digital figures are still coming in. but all of them are overshadowed by piracy. it's probably been illegally downloaded a million times by now. reuters is pointing that 300,000 downloads came from china. it's surprising to see that kinds of interest. >> getting internationally complicated by the minute. >> yes. >> a little bit of press might have helped it never know how this film might have done otherwise. the big publicity, hype over it cyber attack drive the pr for the film. >> absolutely itsony spent 45 mg the film and another 45 million marketing it. i'm curious to see how much it would have made if that marketing campaign would have continued. you know, those tv spots aren't there anymore. just a strange scenario. glad the film actually made it out. >> sony got quite a bit of money to make up. but what i thought was a class act touch was seth rogan appeared at a theater. >> yes. >> surprised everybody. government up in front before the film started to thank everybody for supporting them. especially, given what has happened. >> handing out flag pins and t-shirts certainly in character for somebody like seth rogan. evidence has got to be elated that he is seeing americans come out support the film. this is an opportunity to stand up against these hackers and say we are not going to let you tell us what we can and can't watch. a million dollars might be ordinary on any other day. i think he has got to be pretty excited about those numbers. >> it's a million dollars in the right direction. especially going against this kind of cyber terrorism. it's a strong message that needs to be sent, i i think internationally especially with this waive of crimes being more frequent. we will see that in the future, too. at least we took a stand when it counted, right? >> yes. >> simone, thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you so much, kimbler. >> i it looks like russia is on team north korea. the russian foreign ministry spokesman blasting the u.s. for threatening revenge for the cyber attack and saying north korea's anger is, quote, quite understandable. and former u.n. ambassador john bolton joins us to weigh in and go "on the record." ambassador, thanks for being with us tonight. >> glad to be with you, kimberly. >> what do you think about this turn of events? >> well, i think it's always good fun in moscow to be able to poke the united states in the eye. this is obviously something that the russians are going to try to make use of for their own political purposes. i think there are deeper questions here as well. and where we don't know the answer. did, in fact, russian computer scientists in some way aid north korea, are they part of a larger north korean cyber warfare program? are they simply benefit guilty from watching how the united states responds to this? i think a lot of questions about russia and china while we are on the subject remain to be answered. >> and when you talk about it, russia is really kind of in the driver's seat in so many ways and looking and watching to see how we react. what steps we take. this really has far reaching international implications because of all the players involved. rush sharks china, united states, north korea, everybody watching like chess moves. >> right. that's why i think simply dismissing this as vandalism or kind of a low grade kind of problem is potentially a mistake. obviously a lot we don't know in the public domain. it seems to me if the fbi is right and they said north korea was responsible for this attack, we need to treat it very seriously. because it's not just an attack on the movie industry. which is maybe the least important of our industries, but it's something that i think exposes the risks that our private sector now faces from cyber attacks, the risks of disruption and finance, communications, power, aerospace and defense. i think the united states needs to respond more than pro-partially as president obama said. i think we need to be thinking about creating structures of deterrence not just against north korea. >> what do you suggest? >> the case of north korea we have apparently already disrupted what passes for their internet system. it's laughably small. i think it's -- north koreas is engaged in a symmetric warfare against us. we need to turn the tables on them. put them back on the list of state terrorists, really enforce the existing financial sanctions we have got against them. work with others to do the same. and i think demonstrate whatever way we can politically and through other cyber techniques and sanctions that we are not going to tolerate this. signal we have to go beyond north korea, it is to russia and china and others don't do this to us. >> what kind of conversation should would he be having with china and russia in light of these events? >> well, i think right now we need to be telling them that we understand they have their own significant cyber warfare capability and that we expect them to watch what we do to north korea and not be coming after us the way they have. i feel despite the nasa and elsewhere four government we are way behind where we need to be both in terms of defense and offense. and, you know, in the cyber world as in other aspects, they are really mirror images of one another. we need more defenses both in government and in the private sector. we need a far greater willingness to use cyber warfare against those that might think about attacking us. >> well it, sounds like we are going to have to do some restructuring within our departments of intelligence, et cetera, to maybe devote more resources, manpower, and dollars because this is the wave of terror in the future and we need to get ahead of it instead of be behind it i i agree with you, ambassador, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, kimberly. >> this is a fox news alert. suspected u.s. drone strikes on militant hideouts in pakistan killing at least seven fighters. defense one executive editor kevin barron joins us now. kevin, give us the latest on this. >> well, this looks like this is the retaliation for the attack on the school that killed over 160 last week. this is -- this comes today along with a raid by pakistani forces that they say has killed the leader, the master behind behind that raid. >> how important do you think this strike is? at least it's coming relatively quickly on the heels of that catastrophic terror event. >> the "new york times" reporting out of pakistani. pakistani officials the ones being quoted saying they believe this is a u.s. strike. what that means is that the pakistani officials are publicly saying the u.s. is helping them go after the perpetrators of that massacre. so that's one progress or good thing if you are an american security official it also comes right at the end of 2014 when we were all told for many months and years that this is going to be the end of the war in afghanistan. the end of combat as we know it and i don't think when the ball drops next week we are going to see anything different between what's going on this week and next week. unless we see more of this. more of some sort of joint operations between americans and pakistanis across the border in pakistan. >> yeah. that's the key to the future because success to have this kind of joint operations very dangerously naive to think we can call it the end of the war. that's not what we need to be happening at all. we have to have the right security and support structures for all the people still there and serving including u.s. troops. otherwise, we are going to see iraq all over again. >> right. and, remember, there is new leadership in pakistan recently. army and the intelligence forces. this is not the same leadership on either side of that border. with americans as well that you will worked for many years. admiral mullen when he was joint chiefs tried very hard to get the pakistanis to do more. we hear at the pentagon all the time defend the pack look, they have taken on more losses than we have going after the taliban, going after, you know, the terrorism in the northwest, along the border. >> right. but it never seems to be enough. never seems to be overt enough it always has to be some sort of hidden partnership. again, for pakistanis come out and say themselves that this was u.s. drone strikes helping out is something to note. >> we have been tremendously supportive to pakistan in terms of the tremendous amount of u.s. dollars that we have funneled in there over the years. i think the least that we can expect is their direct cooperation given the circumstances and, in fact, the grave threats that they also face from the taliban and others. >> right. you know, with the new congress come in and the republicans taking control, you are going to see, i think a lot more eyeballs on those dollars. >> um-huh. >> a lot more criticism from that side on how much the u.s. is paying for security. how much they are paying for a good partnership. >> absolutely. >> we have to wait and see -- there are a lot of eyes on pakistan right now. not just on the leadership but on the public to see what's their reaction to this latest atrocity. again, this has been a year of lots of attacks in pakistan. airport last year, checkpoints, even some schools. this one, the army school, this massacre just has gone so far beyond the pale, there is a sense that if this doesn't kind of jump start them to get them in the fight in a different level, then, exactly, what will. >> important too, see what our congress men and women do to make sure we are getting our dollars worth for what we are doing over there kevin, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> so, how effective are these drone strikes and driving out the taliban and al qaeda from their safe havens? general bob scales joins us now. we're going to pick up on that conversation. general, thanks for being with us tonight. >> hi, kimberly. >> how important and crucial are the drone strikes to our overall military success? >> boy, this is a huge power change in pakistan, kimberly. something is going on there. two or three months ago the pakistanis absolutely called off all u.s. drone strikes in their territory. now all of a sudden it's almost like a joint operation that's going on in the northwest territories. i think what the pakistanis have finally realized and to some extent the pakistani people is that they need the united states from this fight. after that horrible incident in islamabad everybody realizes the dividing line between the good taliban and the bad taliban doesn't exist. the only way they could strike effectively in the northwest territory with great precision is to use american technology. >> why do you think it's been so long coming for them to understand that adopt this type of approach because they really do need our help. ii mean, their survival depends on it. if the examples are not a glaring example of that i don't know what else would get their attention. >> remember now, pakistan is the home of conspiracy theories. it's been for years and years the pakistani have been accusing us of collusion with the indians. they don't like us being in afghanistan. so all of a sudden, when we start to leave, they look at each other and say the americans are gone. of the taliban are growing in strength. maybe we audited to rethink our policy and just because seven taliban may have been killed doesn't sound like a big deal. but from our perch and the perch of the pentagon and the american people this could signify a real seed change how we take on the taliban in the future. >> going forward, in that region of the world to have kind of an active partnership and one of trust where there isn't distrust conspiracy theories that type of thing. that really serves, you know as impedestrian whment we are trying to work to get real tile intelligence and act on it like we did successfully in this situation with the leader being killed that was in charge of that taliban attack on the school. that's a strategic hit right there. >> right. this is just kind of scratching the surface what we need to do going forward. >> yeah. we have a long way to go, kimberly. as we pull out of afghanistan, the taliban is going to spread themselves not only in the northwest territories. but taking over some of the southeastern parts and the northeastern parts of afghanistan. if the pakistanis and americans don't work together in this, 9800 troops left behind in afghanistan are not going to stop the taliban surge in both countries and at last, the pakistanis, particularly the pakistani military are starting to come to grips and realize that their future is firmly tied with us i think it's an important conclusion. >> they have to radio lie on us ultimately for their survival because nobody does it better in terms of intelligence and acting on it than we do. but if we don't have that partnership in that region it's a problem. you bring up a very important point about afghanistan. that is crucial to make sure that that area is secure because, otherwise, if they don't have the support there and the security forces to protect our men and women that are serving, they are not going to be able to guarantee much success over there whatsoever. maybe were kandahar they will be able to secure those areas but not the outlying areas that will be make it vulnerable to attack which is a huge problem for pakistan as a well. >> right, exactly. remember, the prizes not afghanistan. the prizes pakistan. over 100 million people over 200 nuclear weapons. if that government is threatened by the taliban, if they gain a foot hold in the high density, highly populated areas of pakistan, it spells trouble not just for the pakistanis but for us because we suddenly have a terrorist safety zone that includes two countries and well over 100 million people and 200 nuclear weapons. that is unacceptable, not for the pakistanis so much but for the american people. >> but for the american people. >> right. >> i want to get to your thoughts as well about isis if we can shift gears for a second here and talk about the reports of stockpiling weapons in kuwait. >> yeah. well, this has been going on for some time since 2003. there is something north of a brigade set. that's about 3300 vehicles. most of these are m wraps. those special vehicles that protect against ieds. now what we are seeing is increased. kuwaits have been very good to us. they have allowed us to build up our forces in the region without having to put them at harm's risk from terrorists. what we are going to see in the future increasingly as americans get more involved in the year ahead, we are going to see more of a dedicated material effort to the effort in iraq. but, remember, isis in charge. they are trying to build a country. the iraqi army is a long, long way from having -- being able to take the offensive against these guys so that will be another year before we see this equipment used. >> yeah, you are right. i think at least that's a step in the positive direction. >> it's a good start. >> iraq is not ready for prime time on that. general scales thank you. >> thank you, kimberly. >> this is a fox news alert. mother nature is not finished yet. after a stormy christmas eve. what can holiday travelers expect heading into the weekend and new year's eve? meteorologist katelyn ross joins us. give us all the latest weather, katelyn. >> i will start with the good news, kimberly. tonight we are seeing nothing but quiet weather in the northeast. while the airports, no delays from boston down through new york, philly and d.c. this is coming off of a christmas eve with plenty of rain, wind, fog, and lots of delays. not the case for the east coast. that is the case though where we have got some stormy winter weather rockies in the northern plain states. winter storm warning in effect. mountains in colorado and northern new mexico. winter weather advisory where you see snow across parts of central nebraska. extends minute society and northwestern iowa and all the way up into northern wisconsin where they will see a few inches of snow tonight into tomorrow. down south there are rain showers moving through parts of the ten valley. gulf coast states. flood watch for new orleans. decent amount of rain there expected through the weekend. it's wet and mild across our southeastern states right now. current temperatures only showing 50s and 60's. we hit the 50s here in philadelphia today. cold air, right behind it and can you see the dramatic difference, 18 in colorado springs. 15 in rapid city. 33 in omaha. they have gotten cold and they will stay colder. as we head to the next holiday, new year's day, best chance to see some snow is where the cold air is estimated snowfall aconsume lathe legs. best along the west coast and extending down into the higher elevations of arizona and new mexico, northern texas, possibly, through thursday. slight chance still in the northern plains but not going to be seeing any snow in the northeast at least just not quite yet. flel get the cold air too. the core of canadian temperatures move through the northern plains mondays, tuesday, and then by wednesday new years epps eve. philadelphia, new york and boston only seeing high temperatures on new year's day low 30's it's been a while since they have been that cold. kimberly a very chilly end 2014 beginning to 2015. >> i my goodness, i knew you were going to say that i will be on the roof top somewhere in times square with the body warmers. >> stay warm. >> thank you. >> straight ahead. thousands of law enforcement officers from around the nation paying tribute to the nypd officers executed while doing their job. that's next. plus, president george h.w. bush spending christmas in a texas hospital. we have an update on bush 41 coming up. she's still the one for you. and 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