closing the gap every six hours, how many percentage points will rick perry need in 14 days to realize a four-way tie and a margin of error of plus or minus 3 points. and can they choose not to hire people because they smoke? some people say no. the president of diligence says, depends on my mood. and how sexy is too sexy for a high school yearbook photo? we will ask if bill regrets the nipple bearing fish net shirt he wore and we will debate that. >> i think your answer to rick perry is pie. >> it is pie. >> i am not sure what kind of pie. >> i am keeping track of this. we will talk about it at half time. let's welcome our guests. i am here with diana -- diane ma say dough. her new book, don't even think about it loser, comes out next month. that might just be a text she sent me. i can't remember. paul mccurio, his image is out, but honestly, who cares? bill schulz, he thinks he is a miranda, but he is a samantha. and sitting next to me is a first time guest. she the arizona guest and there is a good chance that an hour from now he will be firing his media people. and he is running low on ink because everybody thinks he stinks. that's our "new york times" correspondent. it is moderately good to see you, pinch. >> "the times" are limited and they attempt to excrete out an nfl playoff preview. personally i stopped following the game during its infancy when the professionals gouged the i's and the ovaltine during the second period of what was otherwise a jim dappedy of a -- dandy of a faceoff. being unsporty does president cut it for this year, shorty. >> that's it. that was old t mcwhite only. >> he was a popular player in the 20s. once he integrated they were shun. >> thanks for that bit of history. >> you are welcome for that bit of history. will heading down south hit mitt in the mouth or newt become mute? gingrich has lost his early lead in the palmetto state with romney and santorum and then the newt-ster. but they say santorum is 3 percentage points behind the stormin mormon. on friday the senator was out stumping for mitt. >> and so i am confident with the leadership and the backing of the american people president obama will turn this country around. we believe in america. we believe that our best days are ahead of us. excuse me, president romney. president romney. president romney. >> that's fun. meanwhile, as we transition awkwardly, which folks are most enthusiastic about the election this year? public polling policy -- sorry, public policy polling or ppp or ppp finds out the groups are african-americans, tea party supporters and young people with the latter saying, hip cats like us dig the voting groove my man. i feel like a young voter myself. newt gingrich's campaign released another ad attacking romney. >> i am newt gingrich and i approve this message. >> who wouldn't approve the message? >> welcome to the show and god help you. do you agree with senator mccain that who wins south carolina will be the nominee? >> no, who ever has the puppy ad wins. >> so newt wins. >> i actually disagree with my own senator. but remember i come from the school of thought. i want this to be a long, dragged out -- i want them to fight. it will make them better candidates and toughens them up. and it keeps the bad guys from knowing who our nominee is. >> don't you think that plays into obama's favor? they beat each other up and obama is giving them something on a silver platter. his numbers are so low. the only numbers that are lower are the ones that are meaningful. >> in the future please don't answer unless i have asked you an actual question. >> but my reason in this is very simple. think back 30 some years ago. is it barack? is it hillary? is it hillary or barack? it gobbled up the media attention in this country for months. darn it, it is our turn to do the same thing. >> i agree. i said last night on the show people keep saying the republicans are -- it is not good they are beating each other up. my point is always, well, hillary clinton and barack obama did that three years ago. they beat the hell out of each other 1k3* president obama won. -- and president obama won. >> it is folk lore that tough primaries lose the general. tough primaries toughen up the candidates. >> do you think governor romney will win south carolina? >> probably. you have to look at the direction of the tracking polls and who is still persuadable. i'm not sure there is enough persuadable votes yet. south carolina really will make a huge difference. >> i think so. dye anne, you are a big -- dye anne, you are a big santorum gal. do you think he can be strong in south carolina? >> you completely made that up. >> did i not get that right? >> sure, absolutely, why not? >> okay. do you think he will win south carolina? >> i don't know. >> we will pretend -- make something up. you are on a tv show scpru to give an answer. >> he is actually neck and neck with gingrich right now for second which is unexpected. i have a hard time trusting polls. three months ago they said gingrich was out of the race and no one thought he was running seriously, and now he is contending for second in most of these races. i have a hard time trusting these polls. but right now obviously romney has momentum. i think if he wins all three it will be hard to take him out. >> i agree. >> do you have a question for me? go ahead. >> sadly i do. >> go on. >> what about ron paul? how will he do in new hampshire? >> it doesn't make a difference. it will be romney. none of the candidates have a chance. these other candidates have -- they have the same chance as a black contestant on "the bachelor." that wasn't racist. >> i am the only one on this panel that feels the opposite. i don't think beating each other up in these primaries for months and months and months helps the candidate. i think they are pretty powerful people who can handle themselves, and i think barack obama is giving them a silver platter to beat him, and they are not taking it. it is like you have the game won, and you will take a knee in the football game and instead you turn around and punch your own quarterback. >> here is another reason i disagree with you. we saw there were a tremendous number of debates before the first votes were cast. it is more than we usually see in these election years. and i thought by the end of those debates every single candidate was so much better than they had been at the beginning of the debates. i think the more you keep doing this stuff, the better they get, the more they get attacked and the better they get -- >> i think for me it is degrees. i don't think you need so much. i think at some point the republican party needs to go, you know what, we should turn our attention and cannons to this. you talk about clinton and obama, well, the republicans didn't win. that strategy you are talking about isn't helping. obama won. you say they beat each other up -- >> they still won. >> the other part -- >> are you an idiot. >> the point is we are dominating the media. the media is finally paying attention to republican candidates. typically the president has the absolute bully poll and controls all media. in this case our primary is getting paid attention to. >> do you really think republican voters didn't know these other candidates existed without this on slot of attention? >> we have to move on, and as we get more and more meed -- media and more and more attention and discussion, you start to reach into the independent population that is absolutely necessary. >> the goal is to trigger the base. once you get into the general election, everyone is trying to go after that independent sector. but right now what they are trying to highlight and pick each other apart for alienate the independent base. i think the major difference is that both sides were doing the same thing. we have an incumbent in office. he is not going through the same thing these others are. >> can i take issue with something you said? >> no. >> well, i am going to anyway. >> i am hosting. >> i felt like interjecting on something you said. the more the republicans debate, the better they are getting. and you can see that. what you did not take into account is the viewers. 57th debate and i heard the same regurgitating answer. my stroke was more pleasurable. >> and yet the ratings for that last debate were sky high. >> maybe because i had left this mortal coil. >> south carolina has raised more questions than it has answered. >> what did you mean by that? >> i just meant overall people in markets, they are not even talking about it, but they ask me questions like, what are you doing, why are you buying the bread? when you think about all of the media picking them up, that's a lot more questions to be answered. >> excellent point. >> thank you. >> why are you saying excellent point. >> the thing is it wasn't an analogy. >> you are really dealing with children. >> it is like dealing with solo members of congress. >> when you reward a dog for not go going to the bathroom in the house, that's what i did there. >> you don't chase him around with a rolled up newspaper? >> have you seen the green room? >> congress n ma, does jon huntsman drop out after new hampshire? he is polling third or fourth there, and he won't be as much of a factor. >> my mean moment of the evening, jon who? >> wow. >> am i allowed to speak? >> no. >> diane, ppp says these are the main demographic groups. explain why they are wrong. >> who said they are wrong? >> well, explain why they are right. >> i think it is understandable why those three would be most motivated, but if they are going to go to the polls which i think the tea partiers are more likely to do that than the other demographics they are talking about. young people don't generally go out and vote. it is a tough call. a lot of times -- in this case they talked to the voters, but they talked to general people. and they go out and talk about what their opinions are. it doesn't matter. if they are not going to the polls it doesn't matter. >> do you think the young people will get out and vote? >> i don't think they will get out to vote as much as the older demographic. what they need to do is keep the young people inside at all costs. instead of buying ads, they should sponsor the team mom marathon. i think that will keep the young people in. >> i think that was sarcastic by the way. >> i think obama is energized by this republican sort of bashing. i think after every debate he should pop his head up and say i approve this message. i didn't find that poll to be all that earth shattering that african-americans will come out and go for obama obviously because he is over can american. i don't know what that poll tells you. >> i think the point of the poll is as much as the tea partiers and the republican base may be motivated that president obama's base is equally motivated going into this election. >> yes, and because there is no one on that side challenging him. but it speaks toward the congressman and what i disagree with, he has a motivated base without having 57 debates and four people screaming at him. >> but when you are running against a campaign. >> i can't believe your incon tau nenes. what are you talking about? >> and the economic crisis impacts that. for the first time things going in politics that normally don't interest younger people, it is directly affecting them. they are coming out of colleges and not able to get jobs. >> that's a good point. do you think the occupy wall street movement will help people be more interested in politics? >> well, i think it does. i think it does motivate that base. and i think particularly for you this is the first time they are seeing direct consequences of policies that are being passed. >> last word here? >> we have seen cross tabs about the young people. and the young people are not for the president anymore. >> i am not saying they are. >> what is happening to your job situation and your future and the amount of debt that has been piled up on top of you, i really do believe young people are exceeding in the data. and the occupy wall street is a wundzful thing. -- wonderful thing. you saw two years of tea party folks getting beaten up, and now you have the occupy. one considers bathing optional. who do you want as your next door neighbor? >> you are hitting close to home here. >> i agree with you. bathing is highly over rated. >> we are moving on. from politics to palmals. should the employers screen for nicotine? an increasing number are refusing to hire smokers or applicants who test positive for nicotine in general. for instance, a policy went into affect at baylor healthcare system, and according to usa, other examples across the country abound. that's right, they abound. says a rep from a like minded facility in pennsylvania, quote, we are trying to promote a complete culture of wellness. we are not denying their right of tobacco products. we are choosing not to hire them. they say it sets a bad precedent saying, quote, what is next? are you not going to hire overly decaffeinated people? slippery slope. isn't that right? >> i would like to point out that no cats actually smoked in that video. >> diane, is this an infringement on the individual rights, or is it okay if the private employees want to discriminate against the smokers? >> they are private companies. they don't qualify as a protective class. i think it is ridiculous. >> they take a 5-minute break every hour. it is fine for a company to say you can't smoke on the premises. you are not leaving the office every 5 minutes or -- >> that is not what you are saying. if you smoke at all, we are not hiring. >> i don't agree. it is going too far. if you want to give somebody a urine test, it is clearly not affecting their work or you wouldn't have to give them the test. i also don't agree with the government stepping in because i don't think smokers qualify. >> congresswoman, let me ask you if the employers have the say, can they not hire overweight people or people with diseases? >> if it is a genetic disease you do fall into a protective class. but if someone is chosen to smoke, and it has an additional $3,000 in insurance costs, and your private business and make the decision. if you work in the private business and you have to cover the additional costs -- >> why not just charge them more for healthcare? >> and that is the perfectly legitimate alternative. if that hospital which is a private business has trouble finding employees, maybe that's what they will have to do. they say you can come to work, but it is a private business. they get to choose who they employ. >> can they do the same thing with overweight people who are more prone to diseases and injury and higher healthcare costs in general? can they do that? >> you probably are in that slippery slope, but the fact of the matter is it is a private business. >> you are going to have to start to argue that fine line. is the person overweight because of genetics or whatever. >> you can argue that about cigarettes. if you have an addictive personality. >> orca median. >> it just doesn't feel right. >> if you want to really rectify and control these people's behavior, put them in a cubicle next to a person with traikeotomy. we have to stop making decisions by feeling and do them by account fas. >> the facts are blurry because where do we draw the line? there are jokes about over decaffeinated people. where do you draw the line? you can't eat certain foods or we won't hire you. >> and take it to the next thing. you have an evangelical religious shop, and are you -- are you obligated to hire the atheist? at one point are you as a private employer able to make the decisions? >> from your perspective in your party, it is about individual rights and freedoms. and doesn't a person have a right to smoke? >> here is where you are wrong. you absolutely have that individual right to smoke. >> do you smoke? >> no. >> if you lost a job because you smoked -- >> you can work somewhere else -- gite point is -- gite point is a private company has a right to discriminate against you. a company has a right to say we can't stop you from smoking. it is totally legal, but we are not going to hire you. >> when do you get to live in a world where you have the consequences of their decision. >> i think when they are dealing with long-term healthcare problems. >> what about the additional $3,000 you cost the company in your healthcare and your fellow employees are covering that. >> i want to go to bill before we go to break. say something. >> the problem here is dr. smoke. last i checked brain surgeons and heart surgeons are not having trouble finding jobs. go to a hospital parking lot and you will see what i'm talking about. >> coming up, it is these two people. we must be doing a story about them. >> i don't care for you. >> i don't care for you, paul. you were talking to our viewers which you are not supposed to be doing. it is almost like you have never been on tv before. >> what is that thing? >> sexy yearbook photo controversy. why the hell not? her pick was nexted. we are not even trying with the rhymes anymore. a colorado high school student submited a photo, seen here, for the end of the yearal man knack. but they refused to publish it because her attire violated the dress code which requires tops to, quote, fully cover the chest, back, abdomen and sides of the student. so sydney speed is protesting the school or something. says the 18-year-old, quote, i feel like they are not allowing me to have my freedom of expression. she argues that until they create a formal policy they can't sensor her sexiness. still, they have raised eyebrows. >> he is always judging. dye app, was the -- diane was the school right that they must meet the dress code. >> absolutely not. this is something wrong with the world. people protest the dumbest thing. it is an insult to protesters. it should be common sense that they have a dress policy. if you can't look like a whoer in the hallway, you can't look like a whore in the yearbook. >> we prefer sexually empowered. >> congressman, is the school violating sydney's free speech, or is sydney violating the school? >> the only thing in this story i am ultimately concerned with, i want to go back 30 years ago and find the person who told me to wear the powder blue tuxedo and beat the crap out of him. >> it will come back. >> but in whose world was a powder blue tuxedo the in thing to wear? >> it was the in thing to wear. >> what happened that night? >> can't talk about it. >> i'm getting me a blue tuxedo. >> you do have a blue tuxedo. >> i do. >> was the picture inappropriate? >> yes, and i want to see more of them. paul mccurio .com. i think it is ironic that this girl can't get her picture in a sexy student yearbook, but she can easily get on sexy student .com. is this really the worst thing in the world that that picture is in a yearbook? has anybody seen a picture that is not equal to that on facebook? >> the school is paying for the yearbook and not sexy student .com. >> what difference does that make? i want to see her prom picture when we get a three-month ultrasound, that's what i want to see. >> that doesn't happen in colorado. >> now that we exposed this, will the school cave? >> no, it won't cave. who is the loser in this? the school wins because it gets to flex its socially conservative muscles in front of the concerned pta members. instead of getting the pictures shown it is shown to the entire country. her sexy ego was never sexier. the only loser in this story is me. not one journalist asked if she was single. the wn question they shouldn't -- should have asked and they didn't. >> and here we are at 3:00 in the morning -- >> the only real loser is the viewers on this one. >> and he is taking off. >> it is a good point. >> do you have a comment on the show? e-mail us. and to leave a voicem