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FOXNEWSW Stossel November 19, 2011



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"the five" starts right now. fi. ♪ ♪ >> dana: our top story t, our top story, rich liberals patriotic million airs asking for their taxes to be c raisedlling to pay up. wshould f our fair share. there is a lot of talk about shared sacrifice, but i haven't seen anybody asking the people who benefited the most from the policies that led to the deficit, the wealthy. >> okay, now is your chance. i have the department of treasury right here. would you like to donate a few thousand dollars? >> no, i wouldn't. >> would you be willing to donate to the department of treasury? >> individually? >> yes. >> no. we believe. >> i'mfy lon tropically active -- philanthropically active. >> dana: what is the point? you'd think with their money they could come up with a consultant the give them a better name. >> greg: i love it. it reminds me of a club i go to the city, you pay to get beaten up. you go down there and you chicken out at the last minute. how is it patriotic to feed your government all your money? that is giving heroin to a junkie, it's patriotic. a bad thing to do. it's hypocritical to be called patriotic. it's patriotic to stop the government from spending your money, bob. >> bob: it's called s&m club. >> dana: if you want to donate more money to the treasury department, you can do so, right? >> eric: you can. that is hilarious. here the paper you want. me? not me. collectively, jackass, yes. go for it. this is warren buffett epitomized right here. everyone should pay more. warren, you want to pay more? well, i would. warren, you want berkshire hathaway to pay more? not my company. just me personally. there it is, hypocritical. >> dana: one thing that -- go ahead. i want to hear what you say about that part. >> bob: you used a swear word and i'll get in trouble for it. here is my point. first of all, that little trap was laid by tucker carlson, the right wing rag, "daily caller" or whatever they call it. >> bob: >> greg: i thought you got along? >> bob: i do. we get along. >> andrea: that was not a trap at all. >> bob: i didn't finish my point. >> andrea: go ahead. >> bob: listen, here is the point. you can't ask them individually to give their money. they want people rich over $1 million to pay more taxes. they are right. you have the biggest free ride. people like eric have been running free for 30 years. >> eric: do you know what taxes i pay? stop it. if you want more taxes, start here. sign it. maybe others will follow you. >> greg: this is the beauty of collective sacrifice. every liberal mantra, when you approach them, their arms get shoulder. >> dana: if it's not about them paying individual taxes who are they speaking for? a lot of people inherited money or did well in business or hit the lotto when it came to stock options like aol. >> andrea: who are they speaking for? when you ask liberals how much is fair they never give an answer. how much is fair? they are already paying majority of taxes. >> bob: that guy wouldn't give $2,000. eric said c'mon, big shot, put it up. >> andrea: you and bruce springsteen and scottie pippen and jon bon jovi you don't have to take your deductions. you don't have to take government subsidiaries. you don't have to take any of that. >> bob: i won't take detoxes this year. >> andrea: there you go. then you will be a patriot. >> bob: these guys have something they said here. they are right. if you don't think this pomsy has favored rich people, you are kidding yourself. it's been the biggest run that anybody -- >> dana: then why aren't they willing to put their money where their mouth is? >> bob: they want collectively other people to pay it. >> dana: they want others to pay it for them. >> greg: that is the motto for leftism. other people do it. on the philanthropic side of things, people with money are able to donate. i think faith-based organizations do better job of taking care of the government. >> bob: there are organizations that give time and not their money. >> dana: you can give however you want to give. if you tax people more, it's not going to increase charitable contributions and it won't help the economy. don't just take it from me. president obama said that last december that the worst thing we could do is raise taxes in a recession. >> bob: that is because he was held up. >> andrea: why did he go after the charitable donations? >> bob: do you ever get tired of defending that? >> greg: do you tire of defending obama? >> bob: yes. as a matter of fact i do. >> eric: get tired of crashing job-creators? >> greg: do you get tired of purple suspenders? >> bob: no. >> dana: you never get tired of occupy wall street. yesterday, something happened i think is worth talking about. that was some of the protes protesters following kids home, screaming at them and terrorizing them. >> these guys are terrorists, yelling at little kids. >> for them, it's horrible. they're afraid, the crowd, they were not even able to get through. he is very afraid now. >> they're doing a parade. >> a parade? >> yeah. >> was it fun or was it scary? >> it was a little scary. >> how come? it was crowded at the school. >> it was really crowded? >> yeah. >> dana: nothing like a kid telling the truth. >> greg: here is the thing. the truth is no new york city school child could be terrified by your average gender studies major. those kids could take those protesters because the protesters are a bunch of wusses. >> andre they're thugs. >> bob: oh, i see. can i ask a question? the poor children who were terrorized today bay couple of crazy people, i grant you that. what about the other 50 days down there, we didn't see anything else about the kids. >> andrea: they were too busy terrorizing women then at this time. >> bob: they let the kids go for 51 days. >> andrea: this is obama's occupy wall street. and pelosi's occupy wall street. why don't you let them defend them. they have to defend it now. >> bob: happy to defend the people. >> eric: yesterday was the day of action and they were blocking the subway entrance. the kids weren't getting in limos going to school. they were trying to get to the subway. >> bob: that was bad thing and i wish they'd get up and go to your beach house. >> andrea: a couple of crazies. there were 250 arrests yesterday in one day. >> greg: it's bullying. anderson cooper and lady gaga run a charge against bullying. why don't they speak out -- they are woefully silent. >> bob: why don't you mention the people down there that don't do these things. >> greg: they are running out. they got smart and went home. >> bob: there are probably a lot of crazies left down there. i understand that. if i was still drinking i'd be down there. >> eric: you'd if it right in. >> bob: i would. a crowd of people with a statement to make and wall street guys stated it. >> bob: it's no -- >> greg: no longer an indictment. the number of occupy wall street is small and infiltrators are large. this is now reflecting a movement. >> dana: i want to ask something about the reaction of senator tom coburn of oklahoma who said it gets to what do they want in occupy wall street? he said what they want to us do is massive distribution of wealth, i don't want to earn it. you have to give it to me. they are proposing the end of our country. do you think it's over the top or accurate? gest i think it's accurate. >> andrea: the greatest irony of all this is anarchy in the name of big government. that is what is crazy about the whole thing. i do wasn't want currency, they don't want to use the dollars anymore and now they don't want the kids going to school. >> bob: that is what you you think of the entire left? we don't want kids going to school. >> andrea: they are aided by the union thugs. the seiu that is down at the demonstrations are friends of the president. >> bob: did you wake up in a bad mood this morning? >> andrea: i didn't. >> bob: you keep cutting me off. tom coburn right wing republican. what do you expect? ask liberal what is they think. >> greg: but they are proposing the end of capitalism. they aren't hiding that. they aren't hiding it. ad busters started this whole thing. virulently anti-capitalism. >> bob: i'm anti-capitalism the way they see capitalism, 1% of the people get all the money. >> dana: good for some, not for others. >> bob: good for 1%, not good for 9%. >> dana: niz last words, eric? >> eric: they're against crony capitalism, but what is going on in d.c. is crony sociallism and a lot worse. they don't have a problem with it. >> dana: we'll talk about that in the hour. but up next on "the five," did you know that democrat jon corzine whose company went down the drain helped create president obama trillion-dollar stimulus. we have interesting tape on that. don't forget to elmail us at thefive@foxnews.com. ♪ ♪ almost tastes like one of jack's als. fiber one. h, forgot jack cereal. 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maybe they should look at who is advising the clowns in obama land? >> jobs, corzine was at the forefront, he worked with me to develop the recovery act, but he is one of the best partners i have in the white house. we work together. >> barack obama and i were literally sitting at a desk in a high-rise in chicago. beginning to plan how we would try to get this economy out of a ditch. literally. the first guy i called was jon corzine. i literally picked up the phone and called jon corzine and said, "jon, what do you think we should do?" >> eric: nice job, taking financial advice that practically bankrupted everything he touched including a wall street bank. the entire state of new jersey and now mf global where they are looking for $600 million of questionably used customer funds. andrea, no wonder we are losing money over the stimulus package. >> andrea: 1%er. if this were republican you'd hear more about it in the media. he gave him credit for stimulus. they are both big government liberals and the correlation that believe in bail-outs. if you look at why m.f. global went down, it's because corzine bet it on big government european bail-outs to save his risky bets. >> eric: bob, another democrat -- >> bob: let me make a point. as far as making half a billion, did anybody else at this table make half a billion? i didn't think so. >> greg: we also lost $600 million. 100 in the hole. that is okay, it's other people's money. >> eric: can i point out something about the hat? i bumped in governor perry and he said nice hat, it's not $4 there. it's $5 trillion. >> greg: that is the bumper stick they're goes on the back of a car eric. it doesn't go on your head. >> bob: right. >> eric: the guy bankrupted new jersey. >> bob: is this beaten up joe biden one? we have run six hits. dabs that is classic. >> bob: he was campaigning for corzine. >> dana: he didn't figuratively call him. he literally called him. >> bob: i make the point over and over, if we haven't been for stimulus we'd be in a depression. what was wrong with the stimulus? >> andrea: wow! >> eric: unemployment went up. >> bob: it would have gone up to 13%. >> dana: corzine's approach to governing helped lead to governor chris christie win in new jersey. but i do think that the company that corzine lost control of, and now the question of did they use customer money when they knew it was failing in an inappropriate way, so there could be criminal problems going forward. it doesn't fit the narrative of the media of the greedy wall street banker on the republican side of things. if it had, i think a lot more of the mainstream media would have covered it. >> bob: y'all wouldn't be jumping on this guy, be before he became governor. he used $200 million of his own money he made in your capitalist system. when he was at goldman sachs i bet you thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. >> eric: i don't have a problem with a guy work manage the private sector not taking bail-out money, this is prior to that. no problem. he got paid. whatever. when he took the money and got himself elected, senator, then governor of new jersey. then buried the state behind -- >> bob: he buried the state of new jersey? >> eric: this is important. before he left when he lost, before he left he signed an agreement with the union saying that they would never lose collective bargaining. >> bob: good. >> eric: if they got rid of the collective bargaining, the numbers would spike. christie broke that agreement and went to bat for them. >> greg: what i love most about the story, joe biden called corzine the smartest guy he knows. which is a grea not a great endorsement. that's jeffrey dahmer calling you a great cook. i don't understand economic for i read the story on sine zune. took an hour to read it. he commingleed funds. that is violation, i don't know, he has to go to jail, right? i don't know enough about this. >> eric: he would go to jail if -- right now i have friends on the board of the company, full disclosure, right now it look like he may have done it solo. if the board said don't do it and he did it, then he may have. >> andrea: i agree with the way that m.f. global went down, though. he took risky bets, they were bad bets, stupid bets based on big government, european bail-out but it went under. investments lost their money. the firm went away. instead of what happened with goldman sachs. the taxpayers had to go and bail-out aig, goldman's insurer. that is not the way -- >> bob: because of years of republican support. by the way, you keep talking about this. remember, this great recession you keep talking about was brought to us by the free market system. >> eric: hold on. hold on. glad you brought that up. earlier today i was hanging out with the huntsman daughter no less, they had a few ideas -- ideas -- >> greg: did they like your hat? >> eric: take a listen. mr. robert beckel, liberal commentator from "the five." >> i'm blocking. i like greg gutfeld. >> really? changing the -- you're a fan? >> he brings spice. diversity. >> i'm going to block it, because i am going to talk about eric. >> there you go! >> dana: that must have been a hard segment. >> bob: is this -- >> dana: like to meet the campaign that suggested they come on your show. >> eric: that was fantastic. you should see what they did about kim kardashian. >> bob: i don't care what they did about kim kardashian. see what they did about me. >> eric: they love you. that was love. >> bob: that is love? >> andrea: you have a rough job, don't you? >> bob: please take the hat off. please take it off. >> dana: that is a good thing. >> greg: he twinkled. >> bob: i don't know what that is. who is queen? >> eric: it's a band -- >> dana: talk about that in the break. >> eric: coming up, 30-year-old hollywood mystery is reopened and witness says he knows who killed actress natalie wood. details next on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ courier ] the amazing story of whether bovine heart tissue can make it from australia to a u.s. lab to a patient in time for surgery may seem like a trumped-up hollywood premise. ♪ but if you take away the dramatic score... take away the dizzying 360-degree camera move... 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