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0 we re putting more costs and more inconvenience on the american people? and so our message to the united states senate is real simple, the american people don t want the government shutdown and they don t want obama care. [ applause ] let s broaden this out to planes and trains and automobiles theme because kristen welker is flying with the president. what s going on? well, president obama just wrapped up his remarks here in kansas city, missouri. set against the back drop of this ford plant which he has argued has come roaring back since the recession. this is one of a series of speeches he s given this week to tout the progress that has been made since the economy collapsed five years ago. but of course, part of his main message was aimed squarely at republicans and said to congress, do your job. this after the house earlier today passed that temporary spending measure which you mess i can tell you, tour e, we were talking to folks who came to hear the president speak. they are infuriated with washington and time for washington to do their job and get this budget passed. back to you guys. kristen welker with the president in kansas city where the royals are do better than my yankees which is also infuriating. let s talk to molly ball who won quiz masters 2,000. let s talk about this obama care shutdown threat because it is just a threat. people are telling me it may not actually happen but the threat will go right up to the brink. karl rove wrote about it in the wall street journal , it is praise worthy but any strat by to repeal delay or replace the law must have a credible chance of succeeding the de-funding strategy does not. it is an ill conceived tactic and republicans should reject it. i do understand the theater is valuable in gaining media and fundraising and my side of the aisle, that guy from the god father, like let them lose their souls but we have a world where there are two parties that both function as adults. why are they having this bizarre strategy? i think you give them too much credit to call them a strategy. this is completely disorganized from the republican side. they do not for lack of a better word know what they are doing. we ve seen this degenerate into a complete circular firing squad. democrats weren t doing so hot before this came along but now they get to sit back and watch and make the popcorn as republicans evolve into this squabbling. now we have the house republicans versus the senate republicans. ted cruz had been out there for weeks egging on the house republicans saying, come on, no more showboats, we ve got to de-fund obama care. the house said, okay, we did it now it s in your ball the ball is in your court and it s up to the senate. and ted cruz says we don t have the votes. the house republicans are awfully annoyed with ted cruz, one of them calling him a fraud. it s more republican on republican bickering. there s a piece of this i don t understand. because really actually john boehner could bring a continuing resolution to the floor of the house right now that would pass with democratic support in the house and would pass in the senate. and there are a range of issues where we could actually make progress if he was willing to abandon the hastert rule. it is not an actual rule. it s this thing where speakers don t like to bring anything to the floor that s not going to pass with the majority of the majority support. what it ends up functioning as is a filibuster in the house, giving power to 26% of the house which seems ridiculous to me. why doesn t john boehner whose speakership may be in danger anyway going into 2014, not necessarily because democrats take over but a threat from his own caucus, why accidedoesn t h decide to do the right thing for his party and country and work with nancy pelosi and the democrats to avoid a government shut down right now? i wouldn t be surprised if that s the way it ends. i think you raise an interesting point, beyond this whole the focus of course has been on the controversy over de-funding obama care. but beyond that, there is not agreement on what the spending levels in this continuing resolution should be. and the previous strategy that the house republicans particularly eric cantor had was to use the leverage to pass a cr that kept funding at sequestering levels. democrats weren t going to be happy but might have had to agree with it because they couldn t get a better deal. now the question is, what will democrats agree to in terms of spending levels. that may be something that the senate determines as the senate passes something that does include a cr. and nonetheless, speaker boehner is fired up speaking that the vote was a vote for common sense and most are saying, this is just a complete waste of time in all reality. next week you could have the 46 gop senators vote not to fund obama care and it would still pass. the question now becomes, molly, how will this play out in the house? we know it s not going to make it through the senate. how do you expect this fight to play out? i m one of the many people in washington who do not own a crystal ball. don t like predictions, i don t know if john boehner knows how this ends. the best guess is we don t get a shutdown and there is a deal, something happens to resolve this standoff. right now it s going to depend on what the senate does. but you do have some republicans, some on the right mostly activists, not actually members of congress, who are cheering for a shutdown and ted cruz has been making the case that the shutdown was not a political disaster for the republicans back in 95 and 96 under newt gingrich. so he wasn t here in washington at the time, i wasn t either. i went back and did reporting and talked to people there at the time and said are we remembering this wrong, that this was a disaster for the republicans? was this actually not such a bad thing? they said literally, oh, god no. it was terrible. we don t ever want to do that again. it was not a good thing for republicans. bill clinton was subsequently re-elected in a landslide after having gotten iz butt recently kicked by the gingrich revolution. republicans who think this is a winner for them are kidding themselves. you mentioned the spending levels. some democrats like steny hoyer have said the entire budget debate should be a chance to unwind some of these damaging sequester cuts. but you don t see the president or other democrats using this as an opportunity, which seems like at a minimum bad negotiation because you have cuts versus cuts versus cuts. also, seems to undermine a core democratic principle around for years, you want to spends to grow the economy and take care of our citizens. well, unfortunately the fact that we are governing sort of from crisis to crisis and that nobody is passing a budget and the house and senate couldn t even agree to go to conference on a real budget, means that we re not going to have the broader debate about the big picture budget issues. president obama proposed budgets and republicans proposed budgets that do contain a larger vision for how they feel the government should be structure and money should be spent. but when we re in this constantly panicked situation, passing crs that last a few months at the most, we re not going to have the broader discussion about where spending could be done more smartly. it s been a rough month but a far worse one for republicans. on balance it s been a good month for the president. molly, let s let you and the audience know why you re here in addition to your always brilliant analysis, it began when steve told us this. i understand you re doing something this weekend involving a 70s game show? yes, you re confused if you re angry or indifferent, this week we ll put it in classic 70s game show form, the loud plaid jacket, great cheesy music. wait until you hear the voiceover. plaid jacket and matching tie, he delivered and this is how the quiz show ended. for 400 points, tell me within two, the exact number of these votes that republicans have held? molly. i believe it is 41. 41 she says. can we accept that? we can accept that. molly ball has dethroned the quiz master. congratulations to you. molly, little did you know by winning the quiz show and taunting the former winner, it gave you an automatic booking on the cycle. lucky me. i haven t had so much fun since the last time i went to the dentist. up against the clock at 9:00 eastern and you might see the winner or one of the losers, perry bacon jr., on the cycle. this week s contestants josh barrel and he have ven mcmorrison and someone named krystal ball. i think this could be the ends of my career. it s been a pleasure being on the cycle. i appreciate you listening to our views every day. if you win or lose you could be here next friday steve is unveiling his quiz show prize package. can t wait to see what it is. we ll be back with more right after this. this man is about to be the millionth customer. would you mind if i go ahead of you? 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