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>> 1/3 of the world's terrorist organizations are in central asia. they will collect themselves in afghanistan, which is the center of islamic i suppose terror in the world. not only that, but we have already seen the foreign minister of china courting the taliban leadership. the chinese have been very helpful behind the scenes. the russians are doing much the same in the northern stands. so we have a series of complex issues. yes, mr. biden promises to keep america safe, but i wonder following the course that he's taken, are we going to be safe? are we going to really exercise in our national interest and promise the american people the security that he's obligated too as he took the oath of office? it's not clear based on the recent record in his discussions
taliban. there's a need whether it's true or not to project a different picture. i asked jen psaki about this in the briefing. listen. >> was the president in any way pushing a false narrative in that call with the afghan president? >> it's clear. i'm not going to go into details of a private conversation. what we saw over the last few months is a collapse in leadership. that was happening even before ghani left the country. the president has conveyed privately and publicly that you need to stand up and lead your country. that's something that he said in july in a public forum as well. >> according to reuters, president biden suggested that president ghani suggest strength with prominent political pictures and put a warrior in front of the effort. he had support from president
it's another misguided energy policy by the united states and by the biden administration. you know, they want to get off of fossil fuels so quickly and they want to tell the u.s. producers stop producer. guess what? the united states just used a regard amount of oil. where are we going to get it? right now that place is russia. >> neil: i always thought as naive as i am, why can't we be on all the energy, don't have to compromise one for the other, push the oil that we have and all the other things you want to do as well. it's either or, which is not good for consumers. >> i agree with you. the united states was doing that before the government got involved. we made great strides. we were the leader in electric cars, leader in that technology. you know, we need it all. hopefully we'll get it. >> neil: thank you. you've been uncanny on this and
americans that lost their lives in afghanistan. what president biden failed to do is complete the sentence. the balance of the sentence says that "we were here highly resolved that these dead shall not have died in vain." i'm afraid that we've had a lot of people that feel that way today. >> neil: i'm wondering moving forward with the taliban -- first this overture on the part of the taliban. you have this pricy embassy, might as well use it. we welcome that. you know, the president's top people talking about the possibility that some sort of dialogue could be coming. with all of that history, our argument is we can't control what is happening right now. but we can control where it goes right now. inherent in that is there's some trust with the taliban.
level fda officials left. that is in my opinion very clear right now. i think they feel cut out as politco has suggested. >> neil: what is surprising in this, doctor, the fact that they weren't consulted. the fda -- no one talked to them. the president certainly. their opinion was not part of weighing this idea for a booster shot. now, to be fair, such talk has been out there across the globe. do you need follow up shots and all of that. on that general issue, whether you need something like this, is that something that the world -- this country has to consider? >> you know, i think most physicians right now in the united states are telling their patients that they would like to see more data. if the data shows that you're at increased risk of hospitalizations and deaths and severe illness, i think the recommendation for a booster is clear. right now some of us are concerned about the global equity issue.
bob mcguinness right now. what do you think of this, particularly what the administration knew and when they knew it and specifically about what looked like a government in afghanistan that was falling apart literally as he was on the phone with the president? >> yeah, my concern, neil, is that we put faith in the taliban and obviously based on just reported information that they're not following up on that. president biden put faith in 350,000 afghan security forces. they failed. he put faith in ghani, he failed. i was struck listening to the president yesterday that he quoted interestingly from president abraham lincoln's 1863 gettysburg address. what the president quoted is that "they gave their last full measure of devotion" making reference to the 24,161
low levels of infection in to the united states. we're telling americans that you can't get to those areas with lower rates of infections. and delta mu is very fit and it's going to be very difficult to compete just as lambda got outperformed by the delta variant. >> neil: got it, doctor. thanks very much. i apologize jostling things around with this breaking news. dr. marty makary following these elements. it's been a crazy with week with afghanistan and the administration saying what and now the fda fighting with the administration over the need for booster shots. all of this comes as the president's handling of afghanistan is disapproved. the one thing he had in his corner was the handling of the virus and the vaccination but now he's under enormous pressure right now, isn't he? >> oh, yes. it's been a bad stretch for the president.
ghani. and he told president biden that his government was facing a full scale invasion from 10,000 to 15,000 international terrorists. the pakistani government refutes that piece of the reuters reporting. yesterday in his remarks, president biden again projected that the taliban takeover was a surprise. he took a swipe at the afghan government saying how quickly that the government fell. the white house position on this is that this call, this transcript does not reflect anything other than what we have seen, which is that the afghan government needed to stand up for themselves and they refute that him, president biden, saying that they need to put up a tougher image is any sort of indication that he was pushing a false narrative, neil. >> neil: got it, jacqui. thanks very much.
necessary right now. but he goes his way or the highway. what do you think of that? >> that's a very good point. the president very much so wanted to get troops out of afghanistan. he's repeatedly said that his advisers, yesterday even repeated it, that all of them were in support of this hasty withdrawal. that is counter to reporting from a number hoff source was, reliable sources that raises a question of biden's advisers do they have the power and the authority to challenge the president and say maybe you need to rethink that? nobody was fired because biden made the decision himself and there were differences of opinion, period. >> neil: you do wonder about >> neil: you do wonder where the presidency goes from here. the differences of appearances,
august was a terrible month for him politically. a bad month obviously for the united states and a deadly one for u.s. troops. so going into the fall doesn't look much better. we'll have the 9-11 anniversary. this afghanistan story line will continue. then you have democratic infighting on how to pass a massive 3.5 trillion bill. another tough month for the president. >> neil: you know, i don't want to conflate stories but there's a key parallel between this fda booster shot story and the president's handling of afghanistan around communication with the generals, a lack of communication or not getting a sense of where things really stand. i'm wondering if this is revealing more of the biden leadership style. he's very keen on getting our troops out. i get that. he's very keen on keeping people safe with the vaccine. even pushing a booster shot even if the fda said might not be