i think what we need to focus on, whether it is black or white or or straight, making sure that we have hate crime laws like this throughout the country, that protect people like this individual that was brutalized by those four maniacs. to be when i don t believe in hate crimes laws. i don t think we should prosecute people based on their thoughts. you don t think is a hate crime? tucker: i think hate is involved, i m merely saying it is a separate category. i m also opposed to lying and downplaying something that is obvious. it is clear that this man s race and political position played a role. absolutely. tucker: that is not all clear from the accounts that were prevalent today. the associated press, and the first account, didn t measure tl angles. i wonder why that was. i don t know. what i can say here, the charges came down from the prosecutor, the final arbiter, there is no arbiter of the case. people reporting the facts, which is, this individual was charged with a hate crime, this prosecutor, based upon the standards for a hate crime in the state of illinois, thought that these four individuals were in violation of a hate crime. just like dylann roof, according to the statues in south carolina, were in violation of the height hate c. tucker: we also draw conclusions from events, that is part of our job here, simone sanders said this, this is not a hate crime. hate crimes are because of a person s racial ethnicity, religion, gender, disability. it isn t your political leanings because someone doesn t like your political leanings. if you had to don clement saying, i don t get is evil. i think these are young people, and they had bad home training. last night on the kelly fire, i called it a hate crime. it is a hate crime, it is wrong, it is violent, it is disgusting. what they should cause us to do, tucker, should cause all of americans, whether you are black, white, hispanic, jewish, muslim, to say we are moving into a new presidency, how do we come to the table. this is not america, right? this is not america. how do we come together and have a conversation about making our country better, how do we have a conversation about looking beyond race, looking beyond gender, looking beyond tucker: i am totally look. you walk into a certain neighborhood, you are the wrong color, you are liable to get in trouble. okay? that is just true. i know it firsthand. you can t say that out loud and most venues because it doesn t doesn t that is part of the problem. you need to have these conversations. when i walk in when i go to friendship heights, and the d.c. area, or any high-end boutique, i m followed around by a salesclerk because i happen to be african-american, it is the same as you getting in trouble and a black neighborhood. we have to have these conversations to break the stigma down. when it happens to become i go to the manager and say, your clerk is following me, i m here to make a purchase, this is wrong, we need to work on fixing it. tucker: i think this sums up perfectly the attitude from the left. if the attackers have been right in the victim had been black, the incident would have conjured america s ugly history. there is that might be right on the merits, but it is an obvious attempt to downplay the significance of this. what s at stake, as you know, is victim status. the idea that a trump supporter might be a victim of a crime based on political beliefs. okay, but nobody wants to give up. the prosecutor was very clear tucker: why are all these liberals trying to say that this is just one isolated example? here is the problem. i would argue that a hate crime is a hate crime. it doesn t have a political tilt to it. dylann roof, we don t blame republicans for dylann roof. no. we should in plain democrats. tucker: are you joking? i never blamed dylann roof is a rage maniac tucker: were you in this country when that happened? by the way, let me say, i agree with what you are saying. i disagree with your and willingness to see what has been going on. there is a mass shooting that has a prescribed media narrative, all of a sudden let s be very clear. after the dylann roof case, there was a campaign to take down the confederate flag, which was the right thing to do. and the governor, republican governor tucker: they banned the dukes of hazard from television. as if every southerner it has that s two different conversations. the dylann roof incident brought to life tucker: they did that after dylann roof. i m making a point. after the dylann roof incident was brought to life, and south carolina, the confederate flag flies over the capital. both democrats and or publicans in south carolina agreed it was a bad idea. waiving the confederate flag tucker: look, if demagoguery in my mind, they banned the dukes of hazard we are having a conversation about four individuals who committed a hate crime of the confederate flag. you can t lump the whole party and with it. that is the argument i am making. it s wrong, it s disgusting, shouldn t happen. it is not time to i am being absolutely honest. tucker: we are out of time. good to see you. tucker: thank you. congratulations. tucker: u.s. intelligence reiterated their belief that the russian government actively meddled in the u.s. election. here are some highlights from today s testimony. every american should be alarmed by russia s attack to our nation. the hacking was only one part of it. the aftermath, an unprecedented attack on our democracy. it also declared the classical propaganda. ladies and gentlemen, it is time now, putin is up to no good, he better be stopped. tucker: fox news chief intelligence correspondence catherine herridge is covering the story at the capitol tonight. she joins us from there. what is going on? thank you, tucker. the bottom line is that the witnesses testified that there are more confident today than they were back in october that this was russian interference, that it came from the highest level of the government. but no one blamed vladimir putin by name and no one said that this was done to help donald trump win and to make sure that hillary clinton lost. they did testify that it was a multifaceted campaign that involved the theft of the emails from the dnc and the clinton campaign, as well as disinformation, as well as fake news. but they also testified that they never found any evidence that the voting on the ballots was changed in any way. they really couldn t speak to the impact of public opinion and whether that influenced how they voted at the end of today. now, there are several reports here, we have this classified her part that went to the president today. this will also be brief to congress. then, the president-elect will get his briefing tomorrow, and then, early next week, we believe monday, based on our reporting, there will be an unclassified report that s available to the public. the witnesses testified today that they will try and be very forward leaning and providing a lot of detail about who exactly was pulling the strings on this thing. and whether motivation and intent was, tucker. tucker: what is the significance, if any, catherine, the timing here? i have been covering this area for more than a decade. it s always important to look at the timing of events. you know, from working in this town come up when there is a big rollout of information, this tes to be almost choreographed to the party that is in power. we asked the white house today if the report was just vinyl this week. how was it that the administration imposed sanctions in russia last week and then, expelled 35 russian diplomats if they didn t have the final reports. what they said is that they wanted a forceful response and they didn t need more information to do that. it begs the question, what does a forceful response mean when the hacking is well-documented and it began over a year ago, tucker? tucker: that is the question right there. catherine, thanks a lot. you re welcome. tucker: for more on russia s hacking, we have newt gingrich. thanks for being here. what is the truth, in your view, the bottom of this? to what extent did the russians interfere in the selection? no more than the united states interferes all over the world to the u.s. information agency. i mean, i don t see apparently, i have not seen the report, apparently, the report says they didn t change any votes, i don t understand what the word hacking means in this context. it apparently didn t change any votes in any precinct in america. the american people voted without interference. the russians may have engaged in disinformation. whether that is more disinformation than the new york times routinely engages in, i have no idea. and i don t take it this is a country where al jazeera is a really evolved by cable, for pete s sake. tucker: you heard a number of different intelligence officials express outrage at president-elect trump was in effect integrating what they doo or casting aspersions on their honesty. i am happy to catch aspersions. i believe that we have clear evidence over and over that there are people very high in the intelligence community who have been politically redesigning what they say and who are trying to respond to what they thought the obama administration wanted. we have a clear case in the central command where 50 different analysts signed a letter, a very unusual saying that their commanding general had been pressuring them to understate the power of isis to fight the white house s definition. now, that is a clear, and inspector general investigation right now. they were basically saying, their implication was, the director of national intelligence was putting pressure on the central command to produce reports that fit the white houses world. tucker: that would be james clapper. that would be james clapper, he is a good friend, i thought very highly of him over the years, the fact is, those 50 analysts argue that the pressure was on to issue reports that understated the danger of isis. tucker: am i misremembering this? this is james clapper who said today, the director of national intelligence, who said, our assessment is now even more resolute that russia interfered in this election. a politically charged thing to say. as of the same james clapper who assured the country that the nsa was not spying on americans? was he lying when he said that? that is the whole challenge you got. we probably need a national dialogue. i m not sure we need a national debate. we need a national dialogue about how the modern world is going to work. sony gets hacked, presumably by north korea, although, we don t totally know that. the fact is, we don t have a very good grip on how this stuff works. and who does what. you have people who have falsifying operations. so, maybe it was the russians, maybe it was the chinese pretending to be the russians. we don t understand all of this stuff. i am very suspicious that this has been going on what does it say to you by the american intelligent system, this has been going on for over a year, they don t really discover it until trump wins? i mean why weren t they saying it six or eight or nine months ago? tucker: having been around this a lot, do you think, actually, the community doesn t know? is that possible? i think let me say up front. i am very sympathetic to how hard it is to know things that are secret. i went through and reviewed the weapons of mass destruction report that was the basis of the iraq campaign under bush. and i think it was honestly their press assessment. it was an assessment with the russians, the italians, the british, the french, they all agreed with. it turned out to be wrong. the nature of intelligence is, you often don t know things, even if you think you know them. and we overvalue it. in that sense. it s important, but you shouldn t say that it is definitive. cyber behavior, cyber warfare is a new world. none of us have a very good grip on ant. the national security agency is probably the best in the world. but they are the best in a way that is shrinking because the zones of are getting bigger. the number of players are getting bigger. there are more and more small groups of criminal hackers who are astonishingly successful, they steal hundreds of millions of dollars a year. in this environment, what i find it suspicious, if you well, i don t want to overstate it, the president of the united states, barack obama, is in essence telling us, that in the last year of his administration, after he had seven years to fix this, something may have been going on for 12 months that they are not totally sure of. but now, and the last weeks, they have decided to issue a report, which is filled with uncertainty, while they are saying they are certain. tucker: posing as absolute certainty. in that way, it is a classic washington summation, i would say. thanks a lot for joining us. good to see you. tucker: time now for twitterstorm, our nightly forecast of social media s most powerful weather patterns. a simple question of about a pickup truck is sending shock waves through the press. all started when the street happen. the top three best-selling vehicles in america are pickups. questions to reporters, do you personally know someone who owns one, a pickup, that is? the response was sensitive. washington post national correspondence said this, because i m from alaska, do any friends on one in d.c. or new york? no because they are unnecessary here. missing the point of the question. no. [laughs] how many journalists know someone who owns a ferret, going the non sequitur route. mother jones engagement editor ben dreyfus said this is a very silly question, to which come of the top three population centers are liberal strongholds, do you personally know someone there? burn. and finally, new york times science writer covers climate change and said this, that might be the dumbest question i have heard today. of course i do. that is not a word to drive a stick. are there bodies with pickups, since then, of course, this neeo demonize reporters with an amer. that is where he is wrong. that never gets an old. ever. it still taste good 20 years later. that is tonight twitterstorm how tough our things were american newspapers? so tough that even children can buy one. the fact is here, a 19-year-old in arkansas just bought his own hometown newspaper. he s got big plans for it. he joins us next. also, we will take you to trump tower live for a report straight ahead. you totaled your brand new car. nobody s hurt, but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they ll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you d get your whole car back. i guess they don t want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we ll replace the full value of your car. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. how did you afford a newspaper at the age of 19? as of right now, we have been working on a handshake. it has been very unofficial. it has been a big cobble work, we have been able to get a bite, and has been well within what i can afford. tucker: good for you. why would you want to do this? well, a paper, especially in eastern arkansas, i didn t know this until i had actually gotten involved with the central delta argus-sun , it is a badge of pride for a community and i think that it is a worthwhile endeavor to try to keep it alive for as long as it can be. tucker: i once worked in a newspaper in arkansas, a great paper. identify with the desire. there is nobody else in your age cohort, not one person who you went to high school were, who worked at a newspaper, or read a newspaper, for that matter. [laughs] what is your plan to get this paper alive? i am very aware that the national trend has been the downfall of newspapers. but in my particular area, there is still a demand for a paper. as long as there is a demand, i am willing to invest in being the supplier. it s just been, it s been a little bit of struggle getting off the ground. as of now, things are going very smoothly. tucker: now that you are the william randolph hearst of the central delta argus-sun, you got to misuse your power, do you want to do something crazy with the paper every once in a while? write editorials against people you don t like? give better views to movies you didn t care for? what are you doing to make the paper yours? everybody is pretty well aware, i am 19. no journalistic experience. i am not going to bite off more than i can chew. but i am trying to do right now, his key people on staff i do know exactly what they are doing. i have kept the staff from the old central delta argus-sun, they have proven to be fantastic. i just this transition. but i don t really until i m experienced and until it is all set in stone and everything is moving along smoothly, i d rather not write my own editorial column. i d rather cover the news and allow people to write an editorial column because i am 19. my input, we can live without it. tucker: boy, you are a self-aware young man. i read one account who said it was amazing you are not running a paper because you only took one journalism class. i thought that is so much better. you haven t been destroyed by taking journalism classes. you are still a normal person. [laughs] well, i don t know about that entirely. but i am doing my best to learn this as fast as i can. i really think this is trial by fire. i am ready to move and learn. tucker: last question. are you going to endorse candidates? endorse who? tucker: endorse candidates when they run? all these politicians will glad hand you and try to convince you. will you sit with them and listen to their pages? if they want to run an ad, i will run an ad. otherwise, no special treatment. i d rather not get involved for fear of conflict of interest. tucker: that is the spirit. nor journalism classes and you are beating a lot of people at the washington post. hayden, thanks for joining us. thanks for having me. tucker: coming up next, donald trump called chuck schumer the head clown of the democrats. we will tell you without a fight is about. coming up. is there an elk in your bed? with sleep number, there s an adjustment for that. tilt your tormentor and put those snores to sleep. does your bed do that? 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no. look, what schumer is saying, what democrats are saying, but 20 million americans that might lose coverage, okay, republicans, you want to repeal it, fine, but what is your alternative? so far, and the last seven years, i have not seen a republican alternative. what is going to happen to the pre-existing condition that will that be eliminated? what about those kids between 21 and 26 years old? will they be covered? will costs go down? i mean, there is no beef there on the republican side. i think what schumer is asking legitimately is, okay, you want to repeal it? what is your alternative? what are you proposing? tucker: i think we both know that pre-existing conditions and the ability to keep your kids on until late middle age or whatever are both very popular and they will stay. the costs have risen, it s not a question of bringing it down come as a question of stopping the rise. the real question is, what democrats come if they were in charge, keep it the way it is? s at the alternative schumer is suggesting, it is doing fine, let s keep it? is anybody doing that? i think what president obama said, what democrats are looking at, yeah, there is no question, especially during the election. not, some of the premiums went up. how can we keep the costs down? i think that is a legitimate issue. there are issues relating to states and medicaid. you know, a lot of states, it was a lot of republican governors, including the one here in new mexico, chose to continue using medicaid. the big problem, tucker, and the interim period between the repeal and a new law which some republicans it said will take six months, what is the alternative? what will happen to all of these people? 20 million that are under obamacare? it is not just poor people. it is the middle class. it is anglos, hispanics, you were talking in your previous segment, it should cover everybody. tucker: i don t think it is a racial question. 20000000 out of a country of 335 million, not a huge i mean, the truth is, the system itself doesn t work. i think most democrats privately will concede that. so, why wouldn t the democrats say, here are our ideas for reforming it, i would hate to think that because of this president s signature achievement, they wouldn t want to concede that it doesn t work. they know it doesn t work. what are what if they admitted? well, look, the reality is, republicans controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency. so, now, it is their responsibility to govern. what is wrong with republicans saying, repeal, all right, you want to repeal, but what is the alternative? i have not seen an alternative on their side. so, the burden is on those that won the election. i think donald trump legitimately won the election. i m worried about his criticism of the intelligence community, denying russian hacking. but i concede, i want him to succeed. he is my president, although, during this period, he has not respected that it presidential transition. there is only one president. he is tweeting policy and programs before he even takes office. that is not right. that makes me uncomfortable. tucker: it s not right for him to express his opinion before he sworn in. let me ask you. you saw the democrats on the hill with their sign, make america sick again, which is what they claim trump will do. if you look at life expectancy in the united states, it is going up for some groups since obamacare cast. it has declined precipitously for others. the outcome doesn t seem to be at all that we expected. a lot of people are dying earlier than they did when obama took office. does that factor into your consideration of whether obamacare was successful? yeah, look. i think it has been successful. yet, there are flaws, we could make it better, ab tucker: dying earlier? [laughs] that s not good. 70 today, i m not there yet, that is the 50s and 60s of the past. you don t have to worry about that. you are still a young guy. i think at the same time, tucker, let s reform it. let s make it better but not repeal it. with no alternative. this is not going to be good policy. and it s not going to be good politics. tucker: i think this they repeal with no alternative, that would be hard to imagine that happening. we ll see. governor, thanks for joining us. thank you. tucker: donald trump spent the day in new york city. fox news national correspondence john roberts is outside trump tower. he was on the road with trump for a year or more. john, good to see you tonight. it only seems like a year or more. [laughs] go to seo. hey, business wrapped up at trump tower, donald trump are still tweeting. we will get to that in a second. the big news is that donald trump has settled on his choice for the new director of national intelligence, it will be the retiring senator from indiana, dan coats. he served 12 terms in the senat senate. he was also the ambassador to germany for a time. he was famously kept out of russia, which he sort of wears like a badge of honor. the official announcement could come as early as tomorrow. that it was what donald trump has a significant intelligence brief, the same report that president obama saw on the alleged russian hacking, apparently, nbc has an exclusive look look at the classified report. donald trump writing on twitter, how did nbc get an exclusive look into the top-secret report he come over obama, was presented, who gave him this report and why? politics. trump also tweeting, the democratic national committee would not allow us them to see the computer info after it was supposedly hacked by russia. this is very much on the president-elect s mind as he gets out to meet with james clapper, the current 2d and i, john brennan, the cia director, what will be a very big intelligence briefing tomorrow. at the same time, the trump transition has been beating back against the wall street journal report out this morning that trump plans on a significantly restructuring the office of the director of national intelligence the cia, bearing back staff at the dni, which donald trump has said to be bloated and politicized, clearly, by these tweets, he does think that there is a lot of politics intelligence. with the cia thinking of turning back some of the sap of the headquarters, and putting more people out in the field, sean spicer, who is the incoming press secretary, beat back strongly against that on the transition conference call saying, it is just not true. listen to what spicer said. speak of the president-elect s top priority will be to ensure the safety of the american people. the security of the nation. he is committed to finding the most effective way to do it. i want to reiterate, there is no truth to the idea of restructuring the intelligence community infrastructure. it is 100% false. donald trump also clarifying his stance on julian sondra jula after tweeting earlier this week what he said about russia not being involved in dispensing the information that wikileaks leak. a lot of people thought that he was supporting assange, he did have the disclaimer on his twitter feed that said retweets are not an endorsement. he said he is not supporting assange, he is restating what he said. people said i am not a fan of intelligence. i am a big fan. though, transition sources do tell us, tucker, that donald trump would like to streamline the intelligence community and to depoliticize it, as well. tucker. tucker: john roberts from trump tower. thanks a lot, john. this time, the university of oregon, a law professor will tell us why this threats the free-speech rights of all of us. this is next. i was being romantic. you know what i find romantic? 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so, first, it was a party at her own a house. there were some students she d invited. she invited her students. it was her party at her house. there was some indication that the students felt uneasy. but the concern was that the students were upset, then, other students who heard about it later on at the law school got upset. and lots of them heard about it because the law school made a big deal of having these discussions about it. that helped create the environment that made for speech punishable. tucker: they centered and pretty clear terms, that the actual disruption resulting from what she did are significant enough to outweigh her interest in academic freedom and freedom of speech. so, they are saying by dressing this way, she caused harm to people at the school? not only are they saying that, the implication is the same with regard to any kind of speech. even outside of school, that might be seen as racially offensive, whether intentionally or not, as religiously offensive. imagine somebody goes to somebody s house and there is a poster of a the mohammed cartoons. i blogged them at one point on my blog. somebody reads my blog and they say, oh, no, i am now offended for religious regions because i am muslim, hypothetically. then, a whole bunch of other students make a big thing of it. the school starts having more discussions and then come at the university comes in and says, oh, it is now so disruptive, and large part because of the school has actually made it a big thing. now, they will be punished for it. any other professor as well cap. tucker: they get away with this, not by saying we are against free speech, nobody want to say that out loud, but they are. by equating birth they disagree with with the violence. i feel unsafe when you say that. that s a big part of it. a lot of students say that. the university is saying it is discrimination. it s true that if the professor decides to grade down a student because of their race or religion, that is obviously a violation of the law, in violation of the constitution. but what they are doing, they are saying that speech offends certain groups is tantamount to legal discrimination. they are indeed re-characterizing speech as conduct that is now. tucker: no one is defending offensive speech. i am not. but once freedom of speech goes, it s over. that s it. mr. volokh, thank you. please finish your sentence. again, this is not just an about allegedly racist speech, this could be critical of homosexuality or certain claims about gender identity and transgender status. so long as some identify a group can be really offended by it, and can turn and this offense turns into more disruption of school, this is reason enough to suspend or to fire a tenured faculty member. tucker: that s right. ultimately, political speech will qualify. this was a form of political speech. tucker: that s right. exactly. professor, thanks a lot for joining us. that was interesting and ominous. straight ahead, the friend zone. that s next. , so i get a better clean. tide. number one rated. it s got to be tide by simply enjoying it. boost® simply complete. it s intelligent nutrition made with only 9 ingredients, plus 25 vitamins and minerals and 10 grams of protein. and look where life can take you! boost®. be up for it.™ americans are addicted to snacks. books are really annoying, this one will make you snort with laughter, mostly at me. i make fun of myself throughout almost the whole book. then, i came up with some good lessons, some great formulas to tackle the problems that dog everyone. what i realized was, when i left hollywood, which is insane, as you know, a lot of the great values that they learned on the prairie really apply to the rest of your life and the rest of america outside of hollywood, like self-reliance, independence, hardware, all of those kinds of things. tucker: oh, i love that. how old were you when you started little house on the prairie? 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reporter: no other gun man is found. at this point it looked like he acted alone. reporter: officials won t say if the suspect was targeting someone on an arriving flight or if he s cooperating. randi kaye, cnn, new york. let s get much more on this. i want to bring in jeffrey thomas, an aviation perspective, joining us from skype. great to have you on the program. we want to talk about airport security to start off with. should we be alarmed that this individual was able to check in a firearm when he d already flagged himself up to authorities? absolutely. it is a troubling background to this gentleman from what has been reported to us. the fact that he had some problems apparently, allegedly, and then indeed checked this firearm with his checked baggage which of course is allowed in certain states of the united states. and that was nothing illegal this doing that. however of course what transpired of course was a terrible tragedy. but the problem we ve got here is that although some cases it s legal, some cases it s illegal, if somebody wants to perpetrate something like this, whether legal or not, is not going to stop them. and this is the big challenge for the industry is wherever you have large numbers of people congregating like an airport, to board an airplane, to check in at an airport, you have bags, all sorts of different types of banks. then you have a recipe for where this can happen again. and over the last 35 year, we ve had 26 such arpirport tragedies. so it s unfortunately nothing new. i wonder if the airport could have done more though. not just because this individual has flagged himself up, but also because he had ammunition with him. it wasn t just a firearm. so surely should there be a process where anyone carrying a gun through international airports should be monitored as they are going to collect their baggage? that s a very good point. you re right. this is something that i guess we ll have to have a good hard look like. it s like the shoe bomber. we all have to take our shoes off now. and as different terrorist acts occur, it just results in more restrictions on travel. and as it is, the tsa and other authorities around the world are really struggling with the amount of checking and inconvenience that passengers have to go through because of these terrible random acts of terrorism. it s a very vexing problem and the other issue is 100,000 flights a day around the world, about 10 million people get on airplanes every day. that is an enormous logistics exercise to increase further the intrusiveness of security checking. we have to go through at the moment. and what about cctv, as well, some suggestion that perhaps he had gone into the bathroom before opening fire on the terrified people in this terminal. perhaps more cctv or perhaps more collaboration between social media agencies and authorities, airport authorities, would just help provide a bigger picture of when attacks could be in the offing. yes, that s a 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listerine®. bring out the bold™ the russian president ordered a multipronged campaign to hurt hillary clinton. it says putin was motivated by an old grudge against clinton and a clear preference for donald trump. both the cia and fbi said they have high confidence in these conclusions. the report also warns, quote, moscow will apply lessons learned from its putin ordered campaign aimed at the u.s. presidential election to future influence efforts worldwide including against u.s. allies and their election processes. donald trump s reaction to the revelations in the intelligence report was luke warm at best. here is jim sciutto with that part of the story. reporter: tonight a declassified version of the intelligence community s report on russian hacking concluded that, quote, putin and the russian government developed a clear preference for president-elect donald trump. russian president vladimir putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the u.s. presidential election. russia s goals were to undermine public faith in the u.s. democratic process, denigrate secretary clinton and harm her elect ability and potential presidency. the russian s assault on the u.s. election used several different techniques blending, quote, company verse ivert intelligence voergss with overt agencies, third party intermediaries and paid social media users or trolls. it also says, quote, when it appeared to moscow that secretary clinton was likely to win the election, the russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency. following the briefing, the president-elect said in a statement, quote, i had a constructive meeting and conversation with the leaders of the intelligence community. i have tremendous respect for the work and service done by the men and women of this community to our great nation. however, trump made clear he believes the hacks do not tapt his election victory. quote, there is absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tamper ing whatsoever with voting machines. intelligence assessment confirmed that being thatting was not involved in vote tallying. but in a statement trump never specifically acknowledged that russia was behind the hacks. despite the clear intelligence assessment and overwhelming bipartisan agreement on russia s involvement. i think that is the one thing in a statement that he should have acknowledged, that whether you re a republican or a testimony, we are not going to tolerate a country like russia trying to interfere in our election process. reporter: donald trump and some of his surrogates have made the point that only the democrats were hacked here and that s why only democratic material was released, but in fact this report contradicts that and says that the cyber ops targeted both major political parties, but because material stolen from the democrats, only that material was released in the days and weeks leading up to the election, it is in large part because of that that the community concluded that the intention here was to weaken hillary clinton and help donald trump. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. some u.s. democratic lawmakers are calling for a bipartisan commission to further investigate the depth of russian influence in the u.s. political process. for reaction from moscow, let s bring in fred pleitgen. i m curious to know what the xr kremlin are saying. is this an embarrassment or compliment? i would say that they would be angry about the results coming out of the report. there hasn t been any official comment yet from the kremlin at all. however russian media outlets, state owned ones and also senior russian lawmakers have been commenting and they have been quite angry. there is for instance former head of the russian parliament s foreign relation committee who came out with a series of tweets, he is very active on twitter, early this morning and late last night clearly right after reading that declassified version of that report where he says that it s not russsia that is undermining democracy, it is the u.s., blaming the obama administration for the poor relations with russia. and of course the russians have always said that they flat out denny of the allegations and there is nothing to indicate that they would change that stance even since this declassified versionof the alle there is nothing to indicate that they would change that stance even since this declassified version came out. what we re hearing from media outlets an russian officials, they feel that what has been put out in the public so far is very thin, that there is very little in the way of substance in there, there is very little actual evidence to suggest that russia was behind this. a lot of the conclusions are there, but very little else. one of the things that they take issue with a lot is this allegation that russia is spreading fake news in the united states, that there is some sort of russian campaign to try to influence the mindset in the united states. in fact the russian state owned media channel rt put out a very, very long article earlier today basically refuting all of the things that were said in that tee classified report that came out from the intelligence community there in the united states. and basically just going through one by one true all these allegations and trying to refute them all. so there certainly is i would say frustration, some anger here in moscow, but also a lot of combativeness where the russians are continuing to say that it wasn t them and especially saying that they don t have any sort of media or fake news campaign going on in the united states. substance or no substance in this intelligence, this could really damage relations between the u.s. and russia even further particularly between president-elect trump and mr. putin. there certainly could be the potential. one of the things that was viewed with a lot of interest here in moscow was the fact that donald trump came out with a statement shortly afterwards where he also mentioned russia as trying to hack into sensitive u.s. information. however mentioning it along with china and other state and nonstate actors. so i think that was something viewed very closely here in moscow to see whether he would come out with a tough statement toward the russians or whether or not it would be more general as he did. the mood here in moscow is one that they believe after january 20th, there could be somewhat of a reset, if we can use that word, of relations between russia and the united states. obviously they re hoping for concessions from the u.s. especially when it comes to loosening and possibly getting rid of some of the very crippling sanctions on the russian economy. it seems almost something that they are banking on. for instance the rue bell oig has risen a little as it gets closer to when he comes into office. whether or not that will happen, whether or not all this will translate into policy of course is something that they re still waiting to see. okay. fred, appreciate it. thank you. donald trump s lack of outrage over russia s meddling in the u.s. election is puzzling to many americans including the u.s. president barack obama. mr. obama said people should remember russian interests are not the same as u.s. interests. i think that what is true is that the russians intended to meddle and they meddled. i ll be honest but, one of the things that i am concerned about is the degree to which we ve seen a lot of commentary lately where there are republicans or pundits or cable commentators who seem to have more confidence in vladimir putin than fellow americans because those fellow americans are democrats. that cannot be. does that include the president-elect? well, what i will say is and i said this right after the election we have to remind ourselves we re on the same team. vladimir putin is not on our team. for his analysis of the u.s. election and russian hacking scandal, i m joined now by the assistant head of the u.s. and americas program at the chatham house think tank. thanks very much for coming in. how difficult a position is donald trump now in given the fact that he s questioned the reliability of his own intelligence reports? does he now have to act against putin? he doesn t have to act necessarily. but he s been put in a very difficult position because this report, at least the unclassified version that is available to the public, doesn t really produce a lot of new information, but it does put the premature until against community on it. it means those hawkishly inclined toward russia can pipt to it and say this is the high confidence of cia and high confidence of the fbi and moderate kevin duraconfidence o inform sa that they actively worked to get you elected. and the people charge d with resetting trump s relations with russia, it will make it more difficult. and what do you make of the idea that president putin personally authorized this sort of hacking, that it s gone right to the very top there? what is at stake for uhe tvladi putin as an individual? on the one hand it s very gikt from the uncrass filed report to verify whether that is true. just based on the general sump we can say that he must have been involved, but it s very difficult based upon what is released to the public to draw that linkage. and of course the intelligence community wouldn t be annual to say so publicly because that would divulge presumably their most sensitive sources and methods. so there is a stalemate there. and i think in a way putin has gone with this strategy because it doesn t present a risk for him. there is no really credible threat that the united states can make in response to this are or that any other country. and that s why he s adopted it as a strategy that s why it s effective. i guess one of the the reasons that donald trump has been slow to approve all of his own intelligence agencies reports is because it s somehow delegitimizes his own election win. but does it also perhaps comply that his team were complicit or aware of russian hacking and that s why they stood by and let hillary clinton lose while they took the victory? there is no indication again in the unclassified person of any u.s. person connected formally or informally to trump s campaign who was aware of the hacking. that would be a very serious crime presumably if there would be evidence of that, there would be more of an indication. but we really don t know because again you get into the question of what are the sensitive sources and methods, what can actually beity vul divulged to the public. only thing we know is that the conclusions are the same. and if russia has done this in one election process in the u.s., it could presumably deploy the same kind of tactics for german presidential elections coming up next year, france, as well. i don t see any reason why they wouldn t. they have seen their objective may have been initially to 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of the restroom and started firing in the baggage claim area killing five people. he then surrendered to authorities and was not injured. and we ve been looking back at his past. he was apparently in the alaskan national guard and received a general discharge in august of 2016, which means there had been some issues. we re told he had stopped showing up at the guard and later he went to the fbi office in anchorage back in november and reported that his behind was being controlled by a u.s. intelligence agency and that voices were in his head pushing him to join isis. but he didn t wish do harm to anyone and an official says he appeared agitated, his statements were in-company her ren incoherent. they saw that he had served in iraq, but no apparent radicalization and the determination made that it should be handled by local authorities and he underwent a mental health evaluation. n next thing we know, he opened fire in ft. lauderdale. the motive still undecember investigation. although everything the suspect did en route to florida was completely legal, this incident could cause airlines to reconsider their policies on passengers traveling with weapons. tom foreman shows us how santiago made his way into the terminal. reporter: this is the ft. lauderdale airport. based on everything that we have heard about this alleged shooter s travel plans, after leaving alaska, laying over in minneapolis and heading here this, is where he would have arrived, terminal two, specifically gate five. it we move in, i can show you that gate five is the one right back in this area. people on some of the planes say the walk from here down to the baggage area would be about 50 or 60 yards if he traveled the same way that you would expect somebody to normally do on a plane like this. it would be a path something like this through the area down to the escalator down here and then down to the baggage area. the baggage area is all in here, that s where he would have retrieved his bag with the gun in it if the witness accounts are correct. and then people talk about him going into a restroom. there is one here and there. so he could have gone in and come right back out firing roughly about 45 minutes after his plane officially touched down. and we do know some of the victims were actually right in this area. and what about this business of taking a gun on a plane some as a civilian, you cannot do that in a carry-on bag, but it is perfectly legal for you to do it in a checked bag. aside from local and state regulations, here s what the tsa say the federal regulations are. you must tell the airline that you can carrying a firearm. it must be unloaded. you can t have any shells in the chamber or in a clip that is loaded on to it. it must be in a locking hard shell case and only you can have the key and the combination. you can t have a whole lot of people with that information. and lastly, if you are carrying ammunition, that also has to be locked up. many gun owners will actually lock it in with the gun itself. tom foreman reporting there. one shooting survivor says his laptop and his backpack may have saved his life. he spoke to anderson cooper about his chilling experience inside the airport terminal. i dropped to the ground, and i heard more of the popping sounds. and then while i m on the floor, i m seeing people in front of me get hit. you actually saw that. i saw that. there was a man probably ten feet ahead of me was shot in the head and his wife collapsed on top of him. and was he shot when he was standing up or was he on the floor? we were all on the floor about. so the shooter just shot somebody laying down on the floor? it was from a certain distance. shooter was not necessarily walking around the whole baggage claim area. he was still several feet away from many of us. but he kind of shot into the crowd and toward the floor and hit that man. was he saying at all before or during the shooting? he said absolutely nothing. he said absolutely nothing. and so there was a point where the entire terminal of the baggage area was completely silent and all we could hear was just the popping of the gun. that s how you railroad it, people not screaming, you remember silence? the people screaming were the people that might have been hurt or people that were next to someone or a loved one that was hit. i understand you had a backpack with you. and that actually saved you or may have saved you. what happened? the backpack saved my life. i was wearing a backpack on both shoulders and then when we went to the floor, i just i dropped and the backpack was still on my back. and it was turned in such a way that at one point when the shooter shot towards my direction, there were several other people around me, there was a bullet that ricocheted. and i did not know this until after until much later. i felt something hit my back and i craned around and i thought because the luggage was still coming. so there was luggage that was falling on top of me, too. and i thought it was just luggage at that time. and it was only later that when i went to the bathroom to check myself out that the bullet had entered my backpack, hit my laptop and then later when i gave my back over to the fbi for investigation, they found the bullet in the pocket of my backpack. that is incredible. so your laptop saved your life. your laptop stopped the bullet. the laptop and i believe the fabric of the backpack. so the laptop, plastic casing, all of that combination. because i was on the ground like a tortoise with the backpack on me. the way in a it ricocheted and entered my bag, that would have been himy back. that was a shooting witness, steve, speaking to anderson cooper earlier on. still ahead on the program this hour, donald trump s action plan to counter cyberattacks, we ll hear from a senior adviser to the u.s. president-elect. sometimes you just know when you hit a home run. that s how i feel about blue-emu pain relief spray. odorless and 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going to continue, and we as a community of maybe critics in washington, d.c., where was the president, if this was going on in 2015, 2016, why did the president wait to this fall to talk to putin about it and even when he did talk to putin about it, he said you guys need to cut that out. those were ahis word. seems like it would have been a much bigger deal for the president of the united states and would have merited him sitting down with putin saying what the heck are you doing and if you re going to continue to do this, we re going to get involved. that is a fair criticism, that even some democrats like adam schiff, diane feinstein, have leveled against the president, that he waited too long to launch the sanctions and punish russia. but i just want to get your personal understanding to you agree with this line from this report. we further assess that putin and the russian government developed a clear preference for president-elect trump, we have high confidence in these judgments. do you agree with that? i would accept that. but, you know, again now that we have this report, can we get i don t understand i don t understand the political side of it and say what are we going to do from this point forward.i do understand the political side of it and say what are we going to do from this point forward. donald trump called for a 90 day action plan. he will put dan coats, general flynn everybody to task immediately to come back with what are we going to do about this, how do we prevent it from other nations and sole actors that are out there. i think the president-elect has acted in a very responsible manner and he also complimented the intelligence community. so i think he wants the public debate over with and let s move to constructive solutions how do you learn from it and what can we do going forward. just reminder that was donald trump s senior adviser jack kingston, former republican congress than from georgia speaking to wolf blitzer. staying with u.s. politics and the first lady has not been someone who hides how she feels. an michelle obama s last official speech was no exception. she was hosting top high school counselors from all around the country and she got extremely emotional and some of the guests also cried as she spoke. michelle kozinski has more now from the white house. as i end my time in the white house, i can think of for better message to send to our young people. something that has carried us through every moment in this white house and every moment of our lives, and that is the power of hope. the belief that something better is always possible if you re willing to work for it and fight for it. it is our fundamental belief in the power of hope that has allowed us to rise above the voices of doubt and division, of anger and fear that we have faced in our own lives and in the life of this country. reporter: in a crowd of educators, advocates, school counselors, the first lady took this opportunity to speak to america s youth about america s values and as someone who over eight years has emerged as one of the most powerful voices for democrats, from her emotional speech at the convention last year i wake up every morning in a house that was built by slaves. and i watched my daughters, two beautiful intelligent black young women, playing with their dogs on the white house lawn. reporter: to her surprising words just days ago with oprah winfrey. see now we re feeling what not having hope feels like. reporter: here she didn t miss the chance to once again hit out at the kind of rhetoric she has said defined the trump campaign. if you or your parents are immigrants, know that you are part of a proud american tradition. and whether you are muslim, christian, jewish, hindu, these religions are teaching our young people will justice and compassion and honesty. you see, our glorious diversity, our diversity of faiths and colors and creeds, that is not a threat to who we are. it makes us who we are. reporter: noting, too, that it comes with responsibility. half of those young people she is speaking to didn t vote at all. you cannot take your freedoms for granted. empower yourselves with a good education. then get out there and use that education to build a country worthy of your boundless promise. lead by example with hope. never fear. and know that i will be with you rooting for you and working to support you for the rest of my life. and i am so grateful to all of you for your passion and your dedication and all the hard work on behalf of our next generation. and i can think of no better way to end my time as first lady than celebrating with all of you. so i want to close today by simply saying thank you. thank you for everything you do for our kids and for our country. being your first lady has been the greatest honor of my life and i hope i ve made you proud. you got the sense that that was difficult to deliver. her face was serious throughout. not smiling very much. the emotion seemed difficult to keep under control. and it was surprising just days ago to hear her words in an interview with oprah winfrey when she said now we re feeling what not having hope feels like. well, here the message was continued hope. and then afterwards friday night here at the white house, the obamas hosted a star-studded farewell party. also this weekend president obama is expected to work on his farewell speech that he will deliver next week in chicago. the white house says his goal is to keep a optimistic and forward-looking. michelle kozinski, cnn, the white house. that was an emotional farewell from the u.s. first lady. next on cnn, derek van dam has our weather forecast including a look at a winter storm targeting parts of the southeast u.s. do stay with us for more. listerine® kills 99% of bad breath germs for a 100% fresh mouth. feeling 100% means you feel bold enough to. .assist a magician. .or dance. listerine®. bring out the bold™ people in atlanta. we didn t get the snow that we originally anticipated. there is a lot of meteorological reasons for this. but basically it fell as freezing rain and that is probably the worst case scenario out of all of this. this is a very familiar sight here across atlanta if we go back to 2014, we had the quote/unquote snowpocalypse that took place just really stalling the entire city for several days on end. i don t want to say that that is the situation that we re dealing with in atlanta, but eerily similar. i snapped this photo and you can see the icicles on some of the overpasses and light fixtures overhead. it is a significant scene out there. people will have to drive with care. if they do get out on the roadways this morning as they wake up, we are measuring the ice accumulation for the metro atlanta area between a quarter to half an inch in some of the locations. and the problem is that when we start factoring in the stronger wind gusts and all the ice that has accumulated on let s say the trees for instance, we have the potential to see those tree branches fall off, perhaps causing power outages. definitely a concern going forward. there are several thousand people in in atlanta metro that have already lost power from this storm system. the good news is however that the back side of the system already moving through atlanta, so now we need to start focusing our attention further to the north and east because this storm is not done. places like charlotte into norfolk and even further north towards the nation s capital, we re in a full-on winter storm. in fact norfolk has a blizzard warning as we speak. so they will expect upwards of a foot of snowfall before it s all said and done. we have another 8 to 12 hours of snowfall across this region. you can see the winter storm warnings stretching from alabama, north georgia into the carolinas as well as virginia. even further north, as well, this morning you re out of the warning, but boston into parts of massachusetts, rhode island and connecticut, you have a winter storm warning because you re next. this system continues to move along the east coast so skimming the coastal regions, that means interstate 95 will be a mess today traveling across that region. i ll take you to the other side of the united states, the west coast bracing themselves for another plume of moisture called the pineapple express. we call it that you because we can trace it all the way back towards its originating point which is hawaii. and that will pick up a significant amount of moisture from the pacific ocean, dump it in the form of snow in the higher elevations. good news for the ski resorts, but in the valleys and lower elevations, it will be significant amounts of rain and that means we have a great flood potential, could be the worst in 10 to 15 years. we will be measuring it in feet. sacramento valley is expecting flooding with the potential of 10 inches of rainfall through the course of the rainfall and into the early parts of next week. we ll take you across the world, this is cnn international, so we will talk about the weather in istanbul, turkey. this is a photo taken from a buddy of mine heading to work and this is atturk airport dealing with snow causing delays and a beautiful sight sight, too? classic winter cocktail of snow, ice and rain. thank you very much. that wraps this hour of cnn newsroom. i m hannah vaughn jones in london. i ll be back with another hour of news from around the world after this break. sometimes you just know when you hit a home run.
caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone . the factor begins right now. hi, i am bill o reilly, thanks for watching us tonight. president obama s job performance, that is a subject of this evening s talking points memo. about an hour from now, barack obama will deliver his farewell address. after eight years in office, he believes he has been successful. others dissent. wall street journal editorializing today, barack obama s presidency has been a disappointment at home and abroad. in fact, ironically, underscored by mr. obama s relentless insistence that he has been a so, now, talking points would like to assess and present the facts about president obama on the job. first of all, some of you believe that i, your humble correspondent, have been too easy on mr. obama. over the years, i ve received letters like these. speaking of matthew richards, native massachusetts come i didt realize that you are the new spokesman for the white house. bill, you threw softballs of the president. you are losing your edge. monro township new jersey, o reilly, why are you defending president obama? talking points replies this way. i have been fair. i haven t bashed a president. i have not attacked him personally. i have not bought into the opinion that he wants to damage the usa. i have not bought into that. what i have done is analyze what he has done in a fact-based way. so, let s take a hard look at that. president obama the first, he is half african-american, he s a historic figure. he has given hope too many minorities and others who see him as a person with little advantage in his early life. who, through hard work, grows up to become the most powerful man in the world. that is a very positive thing. mr. obama is a role model for success. on the negative side, and expectedly, the president has not improve the economic or social situation of most poor minority americans. there is no more poverty in the usa that there was when he took office. black home ownership down on his administration. and racial division way up. groups like black lives matter have polarized blacks and whites and mr. obama welcomed that radical group to the white hous white house. kind of a mystery to me why barack obama did not concentrate more on solving the poverty problem. key to that is keeping families intact. at one point, i expected mr. and mrs. obama to make that theme one of of the top priorities. it never happened. for poor education in the inner cities. a lax view on narcotics. and the president s muted support of the police, all contributed to chaos poor neighborhoods. those take a look at the health care situation. mr. obama s vision is good. all americans should have acces. but the execution of obamacare put a steep burden on working-class families, as we all know. health insurance premiums way up, deductibles way up. and doctors accepting the health mandate, becoming fewer and fewer. there is no question obamacare will be repealed under president trump. we all have to hope that the republicans will put forth a better plan. on the economic front, mr. obama did a good job on his first year of stabilizing the economy, which was in free fall, because of the mortgage can t that led to the recession. for example, he made the right decision bailing out some american carmakers who have since repaid the feds. but then, mr. obama shifted into massive income redistribution country. that s destabilized europe, as the migrants pour in. and lead to even more terrorism on the continents. on the russia front, mr. obama was totally impotent in the face of the tyrant putin. the former kgb officer did exactly what he wanted to do, including invading countries and hacking into the american political system. also, the chinese don t fear barack obama. they have made the south china sea international waters their own. they took it over. chinese have also undermined the american economy, as donald trump has so often pointed out. finally, the new treaty with iran, still debatable. what is not debatable is that iran is the primary sponsor of terrorism in the world! including, the direct destabilization of countries in the mideast and afghanistan. the iranians do not fear barack obama. in international matters, it s clear, president obama believes global warming is more important than stabilizing and protecting the world. in the face of a global. now, global warming is real. climate change is happening. but mr. obama s vision of hurting certain economic sectors in america in order to lessen fossil fuel intrusion cannot possibly work unless countries like india and china do the same thing. as everyone knows, they are not. so, mr. obama imposed regulations that hurts the american economy, knowing full well that climate change wouldn t improve for a while. does that make any sense? at this point in history, two-thirds of the american people think america is on the wrong track. but they still like barack obama. his approval ratings are about 50%. that is up to the president s credit. he has put forth in emmett java responsibility. but as the nation s leader, mr. obama has not improved the economy to any significant extent, has not diminished poverty and poor education, has not brought americans together, and has used the power of this great nation in a way that has created mayhem abroad. that is the historical record. nothing to do with ideology or wishful thinking. it has everything to do with performance. and that s the memo. next on the rundown, took our presidential historians will react. later, a nasty racial controversy on capitol hill including a painting offensive to american police officers. the factor is coming right back. take medication, you may sometimes suffer from a dry mouth. that s why there s biotene. and biotene also comes in a handy spray. so you can moisturize your mouth anytime, anywhere. biotene, for people who suffer from dry mouth symptoms. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be serious and life threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily while using toujeo®. injection site reactions may occur. don t change your dose or type of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor if you take other medicines and about all your medical conditions. insulins, including toujeo®, in combination with tzds (thiazolidinediones) may cause serious side effects like heart failure that can lead to death, even if you ve never had heart failure before. don t dilute or mix toujeo® with other insulins or solutions as it may not work as intended and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. toujeo® helps me stay on track with my blood sugar. ask your doctor about toujeo®. bill: our lead story, president obama s legacy. he will be speaking in just under an hour, giving his farewell address. joining us from washington, david azzerad, presidential historian. national tennessee, jon meacham, also a presidential historian, latest book, test destiny and power. all right, jon, i know you are overcome with my brilliance, but that i make any mistakes in the memo ? it was longer than a sermon on the mound that is perhaps as memorable. i don t think you made mistakes. i think there are some omissions that i would offer up as context, if i were writing the historical legacy of obama. i think on the economic front, you do have to give credit for the rise in the towel, only two other president since 1900 have presided over a rise in a stock market of this scope, calvin coolidge and bill clinton. the tax rates, you talk about how he was interested in redistribution of income. the tax rates are still lower than they were when ronald reagan assigned the bill on his ranch in august of 1981. lowering the rate from 70 under carter to 50, finally got it or 28. bill: not the overall it s a little sleight-of-hand, meacham, i am surprised that you are down here in nashville, you don t take into social security facts, which is really whacked. working americans, because, the restraints are off, it is much, much higher. and the state situation burden, you have the tax system. and the highest rate of corporate tax of the world, jon. right, you have a 3.8% obamacare tax on investing. bill: right, so, come on? it s a strange goal situation if you are looking for vibrant growth, you can t get it. i agree with that. the economy grew twice as fast under george h.w. bush and he got thrown out of office after one year. bill: let s go to mr. azzerad. what do you say? i generally agree with you, bill. the problem is with obama, it s his policies. obama, by all accounts, is a good man. i think we could and cried and the fact that he was our first african-american president. the problem is, when you turn to the policies, he pursued aggressively from obamacare to the iran deal to climate change, they are unpopular and they are unsuccessful. i find it telling that when obama is on the ballot, he wins. when he isn t, when it s his policies, it s his legacy, the american voters overwhelmingly reject him in the democratic party gets shellacked as the president himself. bill: what is it about barack obama? has he mesmerized people? as i said, his approval rating is better than 50%. yet, two-thirds of the american people think the countries had to get the wrong direction. it doesn t really stock. he is young, he is charismatic, the first black president. people want him to succeed. he carries himself more often than not with a certain dignity. so, i don t think it is anything personal. the left wants us to believe that the american people are racist and don t like it president for who he is. i think the whole country wanted him to succeed. he just pushed an agenda that was much more progressive than the country was ready for. and displayed a tin air to the e problems facing the country. bill: he wasn t nimble. you think he was too stubborn, jon? he didn t want to work with the republicans, i understand a lot of them were trying to sabotage him. in isis, that really bothers me. everyone told him, hey, you got a big problem here, leon panetta told him, his own guys told him. he kept going, i don t really care. i think that that is going to go down in history, either he was in denial on an issue that has killed tens of thousands of people or he just was incompetent, which is at? well, when you write history, character is destiny, you know this. part of the presidents character is he has occasionally given off the sense that if only the american people were commensurate with his brilliance, things would be better. i think that has been a problem with his leadership. i think one thing we have to give him credit for, the other thing about that, he also overcorrected as presidents tend to do, from his predecessor. anything that smacked of george w. bush, obama was going to go the other way. bill: particularly dick cheney. but ice is in a glaring error. i don t understand, mr. azzerad, why a president would avoid a confrontation with the group, seeing the massive, massive chaos that it caused. you know, all of these people in the middle east and africa now going into europe. that is going to be a problem for decades to come. it s right on obama s watch. his heart was never into foreign policy. i mean, he promised to fundamentally transform the united states of america, to remake the country. he was never interested in foreign policy. he viewed it as a distraction. this accounts were part of it, his heart was never into it braids bill: still, the jihad is a presence main focus to protect us. do you think, jon, do you think that barack obama at this point understands the criticisms that i just laid out? or is he one of these people that blocks all that out and said, i did a great job, i don t want to hear anything else? he would answer each one. you ve interviewed him a lot. one of his favorite formulations is, this notion that then, he undercuts it. bill: now, we have eight years of facts. he is going to spend a long time, this is a man who can live another 50 years, arguing. let me say one other thing about terrorism. i think he has to get credit, i want to hear what you think about this, there has not been a spectacular attack on my on the homeland and his eight years. bill: correct. he launched ten times, 100 times, as many drone strikes as george w. bush. he killed 3000 terrorists. and i think, and many ways, alienated many people on the left with his anti-terror campaigns. azzerad isis is incredibly impo. bill: i think that when it was convenient for him to attack, he attacks. when it was no downside, he did it. but when it was complicated, he didn t. i will give mr. azzerad the last word. give president obama i want to grade from you, jon meacham, mr. azzerad, give me a grade. according to what you want to great him, i would say, what that he promised to do? president obama promised hope and change. he give us angst and insecurity. he promised to unify us and all he did was divide us by race, by religion, by class, by paying identity politics. i think he has earned a f. but in this stage of great inflation, he will probably get a d. i think it is a b. i think the prosperous have gotten more prosperous, that is one of the reasons trump won because the prosperity did not come down to where it needed to come. also, in history, as you know, bill you are not judged only by what your predecessors did, but by how your successors do. so, this will be an open question. bill: you gave him a b and mr. azzerad is giving him a d. good discussion. directly ahead, senator sessions telling americans what he should be the next attorney general, even as a some clowns interrupt his testimony on capitol hill. later, the feds once again wasting a colossal amount of tax money on incredibly stupid things. upcoming. say hello to a powerful tool that gives you options to fit your budget. oh, i m tied to this chair! dun-dun-daaaa! i don t know that an insurance-themed comic book is what we re looking for. did i mention he can save people nearly $600? 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americas, most of them, think that it is a despicable display. the fact is, bill the people that protested jeff sessions are the same people that protested hillary clinton throughout the entire presidential campaign. many people condemned the behavior today applauded it during the campaign. i think that speaks to the divisions we see in this country. i think the more effective protest was by kaiser con today, the gold star father, who bore silent witness in his opposition to jeff sessions, and his nomination because of his opposition to the full voting rights act, his support of donald trump s muslim band, and his criticism of civil rights groups. bill: no one is saying that there are legitimate protesters in a good thing. you mentioned the division of this country, remember, your guy, president obama, promised to bring everyone together. but the country is more divided now than ever, is that correct? i think unfortunately, what you say, bill the very beginning of barack obama s presidency, he was met with opposition from the tea party republicans and even donald trump. bill: it s not his fault? it s a continuation. i think democrats and the left saw that the tea party, the right enter them, were rewarded for that opposition i fail, they are going to do that. bill: you see the country as more divided than we have seen in decades, you see that, correct? i agree with that. bill: let me get over to melissa. so, my posture is that these crazy far left people help sessions and a trump at all of the stuff that they do works against what they really want. i don t know who they are really persuading. i saw one woman leaving, she was chanting about black lives matter but she was reading from a note card. i am like, you are so committed to reading this role, you are reading your lines and he didn t even bother to memorize it. it s not very convincing. these folks yell racist at any one who is right of center. and for sensible people out there watching the program tonight, they look inside their own hearts. you only really know your own heart. they say, i know i m not racist. if that is your best argument, that this point bill: anyone who voted for donald trump is a racist. that is how they extreme they are. why do you think i m a melissa, that the country is so divided? i think it is based on money. i think we have seen the gap between what mike rich and poor widen amazingly between the president s tenure. meaning, income has fallen. when people are falling behind, can put enough food in the table, don t see their kids lives as being better, they are so preoccupied with these things, they get very frustrated. all these other things, you blame other thing, is it about a race come about that. everybody was doing better and prospering, bill: bad economic times mean more frustration. more friction. bill: do you agree with that, mary anne? certainly, tough economic times certainly defines that. then, also, as defined by race and gender. you can t escape that. you have to give barack obama credit, as you did in your talking points, for putting the country back on track economically. what didn t happen is people didn t make more money. they lost wages. they lost the opportunity to get ahead. it took all eight years bill: as you heard, he did a good job in his first year, then, he went wild with the income redistribution and strangled the economy by all of the higher taxes and regulations. that was my analysis. the last row to melissa. i disagree with that. bill: do you think that trump puck, who is a polarizing figure, just like barack obama is a polarizing figure, do you think that trump will bring peoe together more? i think it s a challenge. a lot of that depends on the economy, as well. if he truly brings jobs back, he gets families doing better, i think that brings more people together, because most people are focused on their own family and their own community. bill: he can improve the job he has potential to divide further and do more race baiting. it could go either way but i bet on the economy. bill: all right, ladies, thank you. bill, last point. trump said on election night he would bring the country together but he has yet to do it since that night. he s not president yet, so, there you go. bill: i was just going to say that. melissa stole that from me. more as the factor moves along the ceiling. the state of california setting itself up to go out had to head with president trump once he s in office. former first lady of san francisco kimberly guilfoyle has some thoughts on nuts. then, nasty racial controversy at the capital. we hope you stay tuned for those reports. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you re totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. bill: you may have heard about a painting that has been hanging in the capitol complex in d.c. since last june. it depicts a police officer in uniform as a pig aiming a gun at african-american protesters. again, this is my capitol. congressman duncan hunter, i a republican, took the gun down, physically took it down. but congressman lacy clay, a democrat, had the picture product, and wants to charge hunter with theft. something that will not happen. at this point, the offending pictures up, down, up, down, up, down, depending what minute it is. joining us from washington, lisa boothe and juan williams. is it appropriate in the capitol complex, i believe? i don t get is inappropriate. you can have a standard to controversial or inflammatory. but the problem is, would you say the same thing about statues to confederates that lead us to have a civil war? clearly, you want art that an flex passion, feeling bill: you don t think this is an appropriate? not at all. to be when i ask you this question, please answer richard directly. if i commission a painting of black gang members shooting a 9-year-old boy in chicago, is that going to be appropriate to put in the capitol building? if you could mention it, probably not. if you asked me, i would say on the same basis that i say that is appropriate, that is appropriate. those are alarming issues. bill: a black gang member with a gun shooting a 9-year-old, it s in the capitol. this is art that came from a member of congress. bill: this guy, lacy clay he had won in our contest. bill: no, no, no. lacy clay picked him, that guy, picked him. it was his contest, clay. come on! it s bogus! he wanted that. he wanted that up! what to say you? this is reprehensible and it s irresponsible for representative clay flared i worked on capitol hill, i have walked the hallway where these pictures and pieces of artwork are hung up. it is chosen by the member s office to represent both the member and also, the congressional district. this guy is choosing, to be represented by a picture that depicts a false narrative from ferguson, which we have seen since ferguson and just this past year alone, 56% increase in police ambush style police killing of police officers. bill: if that picture were displayed somewhere else, would you object to its? absolutely. i think it s disgusting. i think what it is bill: wait, wait, wait. sure. bill: is of the artist have the freedom under our constitution to display art tha? yes, bill. the problem is of the fact that the representative chose this out of many options to represent his office. bill: he wanted to insult the police, he wanted to get attention, all that. i m worried when you say it should be banned. i don t think it should be banned. no, no, no. i want to get back to you on the bogus argument that clay put forth and you parroted about confederate people like robert e lee being displayed in the capitol building. that is history. all right? that is history. we don t have to like all of our historical figures. but robert e lee is a general. he was a pivotal figure in the civil war. so, you put up his statue and you say, this is what robert e lee did. it s not endorsing robert e lee, is not showing him with a gun shooting a 2-year-old, it s not doing any of that. that argument is bogus. i disagree with you. bill: so come historical figures i think you are supporting my argument, you are saying, something of historical significance by the way, lisa, you said, false narrative. there is no false narrative. do you go ask the minority community in this country from ferguson? he will find out lots of people have lots of problems. bill: there is no history in that picture. wait a minute. i didn t lisa refer to ferguson and the tensions between police and black people? s bill: it had nothing to do with the police officer as a pig. that is not history! are you kidding? that is what some people have called bill: it doesn t matter, that s not history! can i answer? bill: that is not history. do you think bill: it doesn t matter. it s the appropriateness of the venue. last word, lisa. it s not just that. the way that the artist s is depicting ferguson is absolutely false. there is a false narrative that was driven by the left and the media and it has led to a lot of police deaths across this country and it is reprehensible for this member of congress to pick this painting among many to represent both himself and the congressional office. bill: we are talking specifically about ferguson. they are talking more broadly. bill: it doesn t matter, this congressman wanted to insult police my capitol. his name is lacy clay if you want to give him a buzz tomorrow, i m sure he would like to talk to you. lisa, juan, thank you. we will talk with kimberly guilfoyle about the state of california challenging donald trump on a number of issues. that could be. intense. and to gutfeld and mcguirk on your tax money being wasted in incredible ways. those stories after these messages. it s not just a car.. it s your daily retreat. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. i have age-related maculare degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. and we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including preservision areds 2. my doctor said preservision areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the national eye institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. preservision areds 2. because my eyes are everything. with not food, become food? 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[laughter] all right. it may be xavier, javier. we will settle without periods. when i got misled by somebody who i will beat up later. anyway, you have an interesting viewpoint or vantage point because you were married to newsom when he was the mayor of san francisco, which is the most far left major city in the country. to for sure. bill: a bout of people who don t live in california, they don t understand why this state has moved so far to the left. do you? they really feel that they have a mandate that they will be basically the head of state against for the antitrust movement. they really believe these ideologies. i would grow up, i was born and raised in san francisco. i saw what happened there, horrible homeless problems. i worked as a prosecutor, assistant district attorney. this was the top sanctuary city, as you know, with the murder there of kate steinle. to bill: there was no remorse for her death. there was a justification, you saw it, we ambushed him, we ran him around at all of that. but again. i know, bill: what is the mentality of people who, despite seeing the homeless destroy their city, leading the league and property crimes, all of that, still refused to say, maybe we are not going in the right direction here? they refuse to actually equip themselves with the facts come,h the statistics. as you saw, this is a state that voted very strongly for hillary clinton. what they are not prepared for, they are ill-equipped, a fight that they are going to get. bill: who is going to end that? president-elect trump and sessions. bill: it will be jerry brown against donald trump, essentially. who is going to end my? ultimately come , i think the governor, gavin newsom, i think he will win, he will he has punch on his podcast, also known as my ex-husband, he has pledged to go against donald trump. he said that the wall will never happen. they have filed an environmental lawsuit. bill: does he want open borders? newsom? does he want everyone to come in? he doesn t want to have closed borders. he will fight very, very aggressively against it. in addition too many bill: i m trying to get into his mindset. if you were here, i would say, mr. newsom, do you support having anyone who wants to walk into the united states? what would he say? yes or no? eventually, he would say yes. bill: i think he would say yes but and make an excuse. i don t think he will make an excuse. he up embraces these policies. he is one of the top surrogates for hillary clinton during this campaign. he is really going to bill: you say he s the next governor? i guarantee he will be the next governor. bill: the central part of california on the northern part, not that liberal, once you get away from the coast, they are mixed independent, mixed. but the coast, the coastal cities, san francisco, l.a., all of that southern california, with with the exception of orange county. you say they are true believers, they will never see another point of view, no matter how many policies do not work, they want a left-wing policy, they don t care whether they work boys because they want left-wing policies. i ll give you an example, when i was first lady, we had a program called care, not cash. we didn t believe in giving people cash to let them use drug abuse. horrible homeless drug problem there. they will not allow you, essentially, to give services, which is what we tried to do, when i was married to gavin, they let couches on fire in front of my house. they rang the bell all hours of the day and night, death threats, only because we were trying to help people. bill: you didn t want to give them cash because you knew they would spend the cash on the drugs? you want her to give other forms of assistance where they could help themselves but not by hair when? job training, rehabilitation. things lit on fire around the house, to the point it wasn t safe to stay there. bill: i usually walk away from that mentality when a seat on the street but i wanted to try to get involved and why so many californians think that way. gutfeld and mcguirk on deck. $5 billion of our tax money wasted by our country recently. the boys next. said what they meant? the citi® double cash card does. earn 1% cash back when you buy, and 1% as you pay. double means double. when really, it s scorching. and while some may say the desert is desolate. we prefer secluded. what is the desert? it s absolutely what you need right now. absolutely scottsdale. bill: back in the book segment tonight, what the heck just happened? an amazing report released by senator jeff flake of arizona called wastebook, porkemon go. it chronicles $5 billion, an amazing display of waste. here now, with the top three each, all right, gutfeld, what is your first run? they spent 300 grand trying to answer one thing, what are boys play with more often, transformers are barbies? i m going to blow your mind here. it turns out they play with transformers. bill: why did they want to know what little boys play with, it dolls or the transformers? this is all part of the social science thing that is trying to say that boys and girls aren t any different, but they left out boys that don t play with transformers or barbies, boys like me, who just find things on the highway to play with. bill: okay. like women s shoes, scissors, matches. bill: mcguirk, your first one. my first one is the ominous music makes people afraid of sharks. bill: how much was spent on ms.? they spent $3 million. the goal was to positively promote sharks. 2000 viewers was the test, they showed them shark videos and they determined that yes, the ominous music unfairly demonizes the sharks and the uplifting music, i don t know what it was, the sound of music, it actually made people want to bill: $3 million for this agency, the government gave them 3 million tax dollars, okay, to find out if sharks are being demonized by music. that s right. bill: okay. number two. they spent 460 grand teaching computers or artificial intelligence to watch television to see how humans think. so, they had computers watch desperate housewives, or the office so they could predict human behavior. i think this is a great idea but they picked the wrong shows. they should have picked the o reilly factor, the artificial intelligence would say, not having it. not having it. kimberly guilfoyle, everybody. bill: 460,000, so computers could watch the shows and predict what again? what did they want to predict? so they can predict human behavior. they should have had them watch mr. ed, so the computers thought that horses could talk. that would ve been hilarious. the national institutes of health, $3.4 million to have male hamsters pitted against each other to study aggression and anxiety in rodents. by the way, they used syrian hamsters, they said they were the most useful in these fights. i know what you are thinking. bill: he is banned syrian hamsters. why are we allowing syrian hamsters into this country? that ends january 20th. the conclusion is that the more hamster s right, the more they went would not come if they use steroids, they are more aggressive. bill: so, they had two hamsters from syria fight each other at northeastern university. bill: perfect. perfect. you can t even wear a sombrero up there but you can have hamsters fighting. and the one on steroids with the kids to the one without steroids? that s correct. bill: did the steroid one? always won. bill: last one. this, actually think it s well worth it. they spent $88,000 looking at 500 years of climate change data and they saw a slight increase in temperature increases the quality of a fine wine. red wine taste better if the temperature goes up slightly, just slightly. this means that global warming is good, especially if you are a drunk like me. better wine means happier people, which means fewer wars, a better planet. ie, ergo, global warming equals global peace. we win. i love you. cheers! i like that. bill: s what is your last one? my last run is how to be more popular online, actually. how to be more popular online. one of the first photos containing faces, 38% more likely to receive likes. that is unless you have a face like brian kilmeade, of course. [other factor that increases the number of likes is having a lot. don t be posting pictures of your dead pets. bill: so, why does the government wants to know how to be more popular online? cloud where they want to know that? why would they spend money to find that out? so, they could burn money, bill. that is the whole idea. bill: i know that gutfeld has tax liens against them. it is not as personal. but mcguirk and i pay a lot of taxes. i like meeting people online. they don t know who i am. bill: to counter disinforn campaigns. bill: bottom line i met a woman online. i m glad. we congratulate senator flake, good job, $5 billion on all this nonsense and not one penny should have been spent on it. gentlemen, thank you. and that is it for us tonight because we have a whole bunch of stuff coming up. thanks again for watching. tomorrow on the factor rule we will cover donald trump s first press conference in quite a while. right, president obama warming up for his farewell address. the tenant off to tucker carlson, who was standing by in tucker: good evening i am tucker carlson, president obama s farewell address will be in chicago. there is other news tonight too. senate democrats went after jeff sessions today, of course, donald trump s pick for attorney general. in a few minutes, president obama will try to explain why his eight years in office have been a lot better than a lot of people seem to remember them. for a game attempt defending the obama legacy. but first, as we await the president, we are joined by fox news chief political anger. of hope and change, his explanation of what happened in those eight years. obviously, you will hear a litany of defense of what he believes are his accomplishments but i think you re going to hear a lot about coming together as a country, perhaps some mornings to the president-elect, donald trump. and remember, this is 2,989 days after he del victory speech in grant park, just a short way away from mccormick place, where he is delivering this farewell address in chicago. and he is going to try to say that he made america a better place over eight years. i think you would have a lot of critics out there, especially even in chicago. where there are some who say things didn t get better and the election of donald trump was a repudiation of obama s policies. with a high approval rating, politics has met about 4% tonight. tucker: so he wrote this speech himself or at least worked on it closely? if you want to know what obama really thinks, listen tonight. he is going to tell us what he really thinks. no political reasons. what he believes his legacy will be. do you think that is fair? i think he is laying the groundwork for his party. this is a democratic party trying to find itself. it is licking its wounds because he has lost under eight years of president obama, there are now fewer governors that are democrats, state legislatures have been obliterated as far as from a democratic point of view and obviously he doesn t have control of the house and the senate as he leaves office. something that he did have control of as he took office. in 2008. you have obamacare and the solution, the repeal and replace it is going to come and all of the regulations that are going to be signed out by donald trump as he takes the office january 20th. tucker: he has suggested obliquely that he will continue to speak out on issues in his post-presidency. do you want to tell us more on that? we don t know, think that is the biggest question going forward. what does it look like in the post-presidency for president obama who will live in washington, d.c. his kids are still going to go to school there in washington and barring some figure who comes out for the democratic party to lead the way, president obama is probably that figure in the short term. tucker: you expect president-elect trump will respond in any way to the address tonight? i do, from the news conference tomorrow, i believe it 11:00 a.m. eastern time, you will hear a response. probably directly. that will be president-elect trump s first press conference since election, it will be his first news conference since july, actually. tucker: interesting. the biggest issue on the table right now obviously is obamacare. if you could, rate the likelihood of a repeal and replacement of obamacare in the next few months. do you think it is high? i think it is high. grandpa went through a detailed plan tonight that president electron has signed on to. i think it is a tough hurdle, they have a lot of plans out there and they they re going te together it started already in the next couple months. tucker: it has got to be an awfully bitter thing for the still president obama to watch. it is, and that is his signature piece of legislation. you re going to hear a defense tonight, i think.
promised to help. during the campaign, president-elect trump put out a list of promises.. he put out his contract for american voter and in it, very specific promises for his first 100 days. lowering taxes and tax reform. free and fair trade deals to protect american workers and their jobs. fixing our nation s infrastructure and sending education back to the states and school choice. repealing and replacing obamacare. affordable child care, pulling a border wall, keeping community safe, rebuilding our nations military and doing what he calld draining the swamp. if he can keep those promises come of this country will be in a much better place one year from now, two years from now, four years from now. so on the eve of this inauguration, my advice for the incoming president is very simple. don t let the washington establishment, republican establishment, democratic establishment, media establishment that in the way of but i think we will get there and i think this very much is a new beginning. i think your counsel and warning is exactly right. it s impressed on him, one can see. they were at holy sites today, at our civic religion, we call it that. the tomb of the unknown soldier, lincoln memorial. look, this guy comes to washington as a certain man, and liberals don t understand him. the media doesn t. a lot of american people do.sh i ve seen in him a lot of what i sound ronald reagan. he had two goals, really, destroy the evil empire. and two, restore the good sense of the american people. sean: and he did it. and he was the same man that he was when he came. i think donald trump will be the same because there is this irrefutable, irrebuttable core to the man that is not going to change. i will take a handful of theut things you mentioned. and i will be very pleased. let me just say i don t say this bitterness. the last act that barack obama performed in office, he performed today. he commuted the sentences of drug dealers. it s time for this to end and us for us to have a new beginning. sean: the only question nowow is will he give hillary clintoni a pardon and as gerald ford did for crimes committed or that have may have been committed. bill bennett, good to see you, it ll be a good day tomorrow. thank you, sean. sean: joining us now, fox news contributor is there any other job you need? welcome to my town. it is my town now. sean: there were a few of us that really believed that this could happen. can we just enjoy this veryf moment? first of all, look at this. this is where donald trump is going to be living, with his family. i can t believe sean put the itching powder in the bed, as a prank on trump. obama would let you do that. think about where we came from 18 months ago when you and i were talking about this movement that we had seen on the radio for years.ov economic populism, questioning these trade deals, having borders that matter. having immigration, but smart immigration. they look down upon those, and called them protectionists, isolationists. and trump said, i am with the people. i m going to win ohio. how many times on election night did we hear that? sean: think back to election night. people crying, there was shock. and then there was such sadness. we weren t exactly thrilled eight years ago. but we bucked it up. we held the tea party. then the midterm in 2014 we did the same thing, tried to help romney. in this case, this unlikely vessel, we had someone who had a better pulse on the americanun people than all of the elite journalists were moping around h washington in the last few days. all the elite media, the elites in hollywood. the financial community. they all look down on trump and by the same token, were looking down on the millions of people going to the rallies. sean: that s when i knew it.al you could see it, you could feel it. i was doing all of the candidates and giving them equal time. they were never anywhere near the enthusiasm. you saw in your twitter feed. they were on fire. his verbal slip-ups, i think people were willing to look pasr it because they knew that heba loved america and he has the best interest. sean: i doubt you re going to do the howard stern show just a couple years earlier. not just on howard but it s a controversial show. all right, the question is, i think there are a lot of pitfalls in the city. the point is, there are pitfalls.th what you think is the biggest challenge he s going to face here? the sheer bureaucracy that bill hinted. the sheer volume of regulations that have to be gutted, the size of the bureaucracy. the career of civil service. many of them good people but many are left wing. burrowed into the bureaucracy who won t want to help donald trump and his agenda. they are newbies, coming in with him. while it s good to clear out the old underbrush of government, you kind of have to have a few old hands and they re too who know where all the tangles are to avoid. i think it s the size of the bureaucracy. the malcontents that are burrowed within it, and the lobbyists who are still crawlin all over the city. pushing for the same special interests. sean: you are right.er you really are considering a run. i know you would want to talk about it. in the commonwealth of virginia. i m your first endorsement. you are, sean, if you want to run in new york, i will support you. in florida. sean: i couldn t win the dog catcher in new york. i like you against rubio. sean: thank you for being here. up next on this historic night, tonight on hannity. i think it is going to be less of it agenda and more of a philosophical document. a vision of where he sees the country, the proper role of government, citizens. sean: incoming press secretary sean spicer, what the president-elect will talk about tomorrow in his inaugural address, michelle malkin will join us next. later tonight. i am especially pleased, i know the president-elect is. we are wrapping up this transition on schedule and on budget. sean: vice president elect mike pence. we will check in with anthony scaramucci. much more, as hannity continues in our nation s capital on the eve of the inauguration of donald trump. is going to visit and make sure that he s tells them how much he appreciates their service to our country. the most notorious drug kingpin landed on u.s. soil. joachim el chapo guzman broke out of mexican prison twice, was extradited u.s. tuesday to face other charges. el chapo is spending the night in a new york jail before his first appearance in a federal house in brooklyn on sunday. i am jack ibanez. now back to hannity . it is a movement that began. , and is a movement like we ve never seen anywhere in the world, they say. there s never been a movement like b this. and it is something very, very special. sean: welcome back to hannity. that was president-elect donald trump at the make america great again concert at the lincoln memorial. earlier today during his first official press briefing,e sean spicer spoke about whatt president-elect trump will include in his inauguration speech. all coming up tomorrow.. watch this.on it will be a personal and sincere statement about his vision for the country. he will discuss what it means, to be an american can, the challenges that we face. infrastructure, education, manufacturing base. i think it s going to be less of an agenda and more of a philosophical document.. of where he sees the country. the proper role of government. citizens. sean: joining me now with reaction, the host of michelle malkin investigates, it s on crtv.com, how are you? i m great, sean, how are youm i ve been walking around the city all day today, it s electric. i think that people need to be reminded that as many long faces and teary-eyed hollywood celebrities and media type people there, here on the ground, people have come all over the country to yes, celebrate. sean: i love donald trump s answer in the interview he did with ainsley earhardt.ce i hope people give the tickets back. the congressmen and women. this is the only time this has happened in these numbers since 1860 and 1864 with abraham lincoln and southern representatives wouldn t go? yes, that s right. shame on these empty chair democrats. they came out, can t put their partisanship aside. for this very historic moment. it tells you everything you need to know about their disingenuousness when it comes to preaching about healing and understanding and peace. sean: there is a certain majesty to all of this. when you see the peaceful transition of power. there ve only been 45 people, that hold that position as the president of our great country. and what an honor. and to make it the solemn event that it is, the celebration, iha think it s appropriate for anybody who wins. it is in the literal sense, awesome. it is awe-inducing. especially something else about being on the streets of d.c. hearing from small business owners. i don t know what their politics are. a lot of them don t know what mine are either. when you just see the excitement and the reinvigoration, i was reading some of these liberal media headlines. oh, there will be healing. what is trump going to do to bring people together? guess what, people, he won. sean: even people he has brought in, like steve harvey. he gets an invitation from theeo president-elect and gets beaten up for going to talk to him about solving the country s problems. as big as it is to win the presidency, that s kind of the qualifier. the hard work really begins. after all we see tomorrow, then you ve got to dig your heels in and to me the biggest challenge i think donald trump faces a republican establishment, democratic establishment, media establishment.t. yeah, that s right. they transcend. he will fight tooth and nail. fighting republicans that were never for him, thrown in with hillary clinton rather than embracing what we are seeing now, truly a revolution. sean: look at the difference between thehe republicans. they want a $9.7 trillion increase in debt. rid of earmarks, some ethical issues, and then donald trump is in the paper talking the last 40 hours but a 10% reduction in spending in washington. a cut, a realsp cut. and he talked about a 20% cut in the workforce in 2 washington. yes, a somebody who has been involved in conservative politics and media for 25 years, i have more hope than ever that we will fulfill the vision that so many of these establishment m republicans abandoned. they there are a lot of things i disagree with in they direction with what he s going with but in general, we are headed in the r-uppercase-letter right direction. sean: do think it s a problem if i wear jeans to the ball? it is that a problem? what you need is your cowboy boots. sean: i left them at home. thanks for being with us, congrats on the show too. coming up next on this busy newsnight from washington, d.c., on hannity. i am especially pleased and i know the president-elect is a especially pleased that we are wrapping up this peaceful transition on schedule and under budget. sean: that s what americans i think want to hear a lot of in coming years. i will speak with the inauguration communications director, boris epshteyn and anthony scaramucci.i plus, 68 democratic congress men and women will be boycotting the inaugural address tomorrow. austan goolsbee and geraldo rivera will debate. tomorrow. austan goolsbee and geraldo rivera will debate. i i i i i constipated? trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax, designed for dependable relief i realize that ah, that $100k is notwell, a 103fortune. yeah, 103. well, let me ask you guys. how long did it take you two to save that? 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he s the man. he s very disciplined. he s a most like the project manager in chief. he lays it out and tells you what to do. sean: it was watching ao couple of things, and paul ryan said, well we will repeal it within the next year we will replace it. trump said we will repeal and replace, republicans with earmarks coming back, $9.7 trillion in the debt in the next ten years. donald trump is tying about a 10% reduction in spending. eliminating baseline budgeting. and an over bloated bureaucracy workforce. it s such an outpouring of support from across the country and is because of that. compared to other politicians with all due respect. now the trump movement is fully coming to washington, d.c. it s uniting america behind it. things are not good to be the same as they are. we will be playing by differenti rules. sean: anthony, you and i have talked about the economy a lot. the success track record you have. isn t it pretty simple. you repatriate national corporation money. below are the corporate rate to 15. i don t want to overstate it but if the deal with the hill. there s a little bit of a grind there. what i love about him is the revenue side of the equation. we have so much energy under the ground. you re going to be a net exporter of energy. a result of which you will start to see, these long-term liabilities. he s a disruptive entrepreneurur at the top of the food chain in the u.s. government. sean: let s put these together. repatriated trillions at 10%, low rate. 15% corporate tax rate. down to four rates on the individual income tax. sean: seven to three. the point is that you have simplification which you and i know, 76,000 pages of code, the> are more on avoiding taxes than they are in making stuff. sean: took him two and a half years to see the impact of his policies. the going to be a two and half year wait? it ll be a much sorter a much shorter wait. america is open for business, sean. he s at the top of the food chain letting people know that. look at all the job announcements he s made. look at what he has done. carrier, gm, ford. sprint. then on the international arena too. yemen talking about the resolution as well, china. it really is across-the-board, such an unusual transition. on time, under budget, resurgence in manufacturing in america. sean: we have 95 million americans out of the labor force. how many can we get back to work work? i haven t done the calculation, but let s go with it about 9.6%. if we can get that down to 7.2%, it s maybe 17 million jobs. we have a home run. we can get them reelected. sean: congratulations. this guy has done an amazing job though, by the way. sean: both of you guys have. when he calls me forh, i have to call him. sean: i never asked for anything for myself. please, no more calls. sean: when i mentioned on the air you know how many favors i owe this guy? 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[john] get your taxes won. we are going to unify our country. our phrase, and we all know it, make america great again. but we are going to make america great for all of our people. everybody. everybody, throughout our country. sean: that was president-elect donald trump at the make america great again ball and concert in front of the lincoln memorial in washington, d.c. trump is calling for unity ahead of tomorrow s inauguration. at least 68 democratic lawmakers, crybabies, will not be in attendance. joining us now, austan goolsbee, geraldo rivera. l this is not happened since 1860. and 1864, austan goolsbee. even you can admit they are just a bunch of crybabies that need aromatherapy, crayons. coloring books, legos. legos are good. legos. sean: come on, hot cocoa. you know it s not my way, sean. i m not a fan of that approach. i understand. sean: see, that makes you a good guy. may be he be the moster unpopular incoming president in modern pulling history, he may have lost the popular vote by any president ever, but he won the election. if you are in congress, you should go to the inauguration. sean: those polls were aou little skewed. it s ridiculous. he s by far the most unpopular, it s not even close. but he won. it s his day. they should go. they may not smile, they don tpu have to laugh but you are in congress. you should go. sean: four years from now when i give all of the economic recovery statistics, i m gonna remind you what you said. i don t want the president incoming to fail because it means we all will fail. i ve got some nervousness. sean: you are a big believer in unity. you don t like when we fight. sometimes we have fun. it s evenly matched and i appreciate you, i consider you my friend. i am disheartened by this move to boycott the inauguration. particularly for an elected member of congress. this is an american celebration. this is the time we put asidely your partisanship and whoever you voted for, you have to root for the president to be to be great.de if he s great, then america prospers. this is a time when he said we should all stand together as one. w i appreciate all the former presidents, george w. bush, george h.w. bush.me hillary and bill clinton. they are there to celebrate the peaceful transition, the transfer of power and i think that that is the message. that is the goal. i m sorry that they are staying home. sean: you and i have had passionate debates on air. austan you and i have had battle royale s on tv. i still lied in the piece where i said good things about you. you have not heard the last of that from your viewers. they are still pissed at you. sean: the reality is, before you even came in tonight, i knew you would not support what they re doing with 68 of these congressmen and women. here s what i m going to say. you don t have to like donald trump, you don t have to support his policy. what makes america amazing, the greatest nation on earth, is what we are going to see tomorrow. a party can switch and there is no violence, nobody has taken over the reins of power. there s a peaceful transition. it s what makes american democracy amazing. like i say, you don t have to cheer for donald trump to be inn favor of the peaceful transition of power. sean: i made a deal with geraldo on this historic, on the eve of this historic inauguration. this is only happen to 45 people in the history of our country. who did you vote for? you tell me. i won t tell you. but i will tell you this. i support president donald trump with all my heart. i want him to succeed. i am so proud of my friend, a man i have known since 1976 sean: i was putting on the spot. for more than four decades, we have dipped in and out of each other s lives. i ve interviewed him 20 times in various phases. in 1991, i did the life and love of donald trump. 1995, an interview about o.j. simpson of all things. he was there with his then wife marla maples. to see him settle down in 2006 with melania and how he got his life really on track in a way that he could now become a great sean: what you did say before we came on the air now i m going to blame geraldo too. you just wait a year. i m going to remind you. sean: it can get any worse than what this guy is leaving us. it will get worse. don t worry. sean: you admitted before we came on the air, is trying to transition that and get give you a break. if hillary clinton were being inaugurated tomorrow, what d you say to me?an i m with my driver. the funniest thing. a gentleman from pakistan. he said to me i am so glad donald trump won because the republicans know how to party. those democrats, they are so boring. they don t have big parties. they march around. sean: i pulled my to hotel, i work in the service industry my whole life. the right tip, i m used to giving people. he goes, mr. hannity. when the republicans come we make money. when the democrats come we make nothing. america should celebrate. this is america s party. sean: at last word, austan. i ve seen the republicans,n: they do not know how to party. i was in cleveland. sean: hey, i took you out to dinner. and i let you buy the most expensive bottle of wine. you bought me a hamburger. do you want a mcpick 2? 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geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. absolutely scottsdale. the last month of the campaign, when i traveled around to every place that you can imagine, state after state after state, speech after speech. and we had 10,000. 20,000. 30,000 people. it was never an entity s feet, just tonight. sean: bikers for trump rolled into d.c. today ahead of his inauguration. not only to show their support but the president-elect but also to protect. tomorrow proceedings from these snowflake protesters. joining us now with details, what s planned for tomorrow,ro bikers for trump founder, chris cox. do i get to keep this one? i really like this. come on, i don t bite. you know. how long have you known, why are you guys here? i you are worried about the snowflakes? we are actually showing. it ll end right on pennsylvania avenue, we are actually doing the parade. we have the only pro trump. sean: out of 89? 88 snowflakes how many guys you have in your group? we are growing by about 25,000 a week. we ve got a lot of guys on thehe way here. california, new york, pennsylvania. they are coming in. sean: do you all ride harleys? you actually got to know donald trump. yeah, we ride harleys. we had a as a matter-of-fact conversation like i had with my college buddies. he said to me, chris, did you a see the news today where ford is keeping the jobs here in america? he goes, you know, i m really natural at this. i really believe we are going to make america great again. sean: i feel like i am an episode of sons of anarchy. you guys said you are a lot better? we are a hell of a lot better. sean: i ve been having this discussion with my wife. i want a harley. she picked me up a vespa and i said i m not driving up thing. let me show the back of the vest. how many stitches are in this? 1,000,368. sean: god bless you guys. thank you for supporting the next president. a lot of people here don t like him. nice to meet you. sean: thank you all. coming up, very important question of the day. that, straight ahead as we continue from our nation s capital. it is a momentous day before a historic day. i m pleased to have a chance to report to the american people and all of you, the progress that we have made at the president-elect s direction. preparing a team that will be ready to serve the american people and make america great again on day one. you can t predict the market. but through good times and bad. .at t. rowe price. .we ve helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. this is the rx.elevated. rx hybrid and rx f sport. get up to $5,000 customer cash on select 2016 models. see your lexus dealer. bp engineers use underwater robots, so they can keep watch over operations below the sea, even from thousands of feet above. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. because safety is never being satisfied. how to win at business. step one: suck on and point decisively with the arm of your glasses. it is no longer eyewear, it is your wand of business wizardry. abracadabra. you ve just gone from invisible to invincible. step two: before your meeting, choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty points for a free night-instantly so you can prepare to win at business. book now at lq.com i use what s already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what s within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it s supposed to do release its own insulin. trulicity responds when my blood sugar rises. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen. and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you ve had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing; a lump or swelling in your neck; or severe pain in your stomach area. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a non-insulin option, click to activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity.
plus literally dialing up the rhetoric. president trump and president putin set to talk as counterpart tomorrow. but who s calling who? keir simmons in new york, kristen welker at the white house. big meeting today, big phone call tomorrow but it s the meeting that s not happening that s grabbing all the headlines, right? that s right. that meeting that was supposed to happen with the president of mexico which was cancelled yesterday after president trump insisted that mexico was going to pay for the wall, the president of mexico said not going to pay for the wall. that is something we have heard him say over and over again. then we learned he cancelled the meeting. president trump tried to cast it as a mutual decision. bottom line, this is a rift in a relation with one of the united states closest allies, its third largest trading partner. what happens next? the administration floating the idea of a possible 20% tax on imports from mexico and, hallie, for a very busy day. keir simmons is in new york. theresa may has to thread this very delicate needle. that s right. in her speech she was able to send a signal to president trump that, if you like, she s on his side, that britain and america see things at the same way and at the same time send a number of messages that will have been picked up and have been picked up back in the u.k. about things like nato, about russia, about iran, about a whole range issues and primarily saying to president trump, america still needs to lead in the world. so that balance she still needs to strike as she prepares to meet with the president at 1:00 eastern today. she still needs to be able to somehow build trust with him while at the same time be her own person. oh, to be a fly on the wall. if people haven t seen her before yesterday, a school mistress type. she s a serious person. why? she got a number of standing ovations but the first laugh didn t happen until about 30 minutes into that speech. so that s the kind of person she is. how will that gel with president trump? you know what she said to british journalists on the flight over here? opposites attract. i was going to ask you about the idea of president trump who is on twitter, theresa may don t even hav a twitter account. will opposites attract in this instance politically? we don t know. she does have an official twitter account. if you take a look at it, all that is on there, posted on there are clips from her speeches and official announcements. it s such a contrast. who knows. when you think about the reagan-thatcher relationship, in some ways reagan was the warm, kind of easy going thatcher was the star owner s daughter, she famously had the handbag, she was famously tough and together that seemed to gel. it s so crucial with international relations. but in a sense, though, hallie, we re talking there about the way things have been and president trump as so far seems to change so much. and that s what s so difficult for world leaders is figuring out how things will work in the future. and the real danger for the british and the real danger for any world leader who chooses to take the road which the british prime minister has is to stay as the british always has really close to washington. the danger is that president trump starts to do things that britain really doesn t agree with and how does she respond to that? fundamentally she knows that if she has washington on side, it really strengthens her negotiations with the european union, but it s full of risks. keir, i think you should hop on a train and get down to washington because there s a lot of anticipation for that meeting. thank you very much, keir simmons at 30 rock. and reaction from another key al ally, mexico. press secretary sean spicer first said there would be a 20% attack on imports. two hours later backing off after some backlash saying that s just one of many options. president trump not backing off his promise that mexico will, in fact, pay for the wall. i ve said many times that the american people will not pay for the wall. and i ve made that clear to the government of mexico. we re working on a tax reform bill that will reduce our trade deficit, increase american exports and will generate revenue from mexico that will pay for the wall if we decide to go that route. reminder, mexico says it is not going to pay for that wall mariana atencio is joining us this morning. you ve been talking to folks there in the capital. what are they saying? reporter: i ve spoken to business leaders who tell me in board rooms across this nation, they are waiting to see what president trump will do. mexicans are angry, appalled at president trump s dismissive tone toward a nation they say has contributed so much to the u.s. economy. i m here with senator armando rios. senator, what will be discussed in this meeting given president trump s executive actions on immigration and the wall? well, we need to hear the minister of economy and the minister of foreign relations. we just went there to the united states last tuesday. we need to hear their report and we need to take some actions for knowing which are the next steps too take regarding security, regarding trade. we need to have a common position with the senate, off course with president pena anyw nieto. what kind of actions are being evaluatevaluated? my position is we should stop negotiating with the united states regarding security issues, regarding anti-terrorism that we ve been working to the for the last years and that now it has no sense to keep on collaborating with an unfriendly government, specifically in the drug enforcement area. of course we need to take a look at what we need to change because we are spending so much money with some kind of relationship that doesn t seem to be in the benefit for us anymore. and what about trade, senator? what concrete actions would you consider taking? we need to change our patterns of consumption. we ve been buying a lot of corns for the states of the corn beds, specifically iowa, some of those. we need to start thinking if he wants to tax our goods that are sold there in the united states, we need to change. probably we can change we can buy the corn now to brazil or to argentina and stop buying it. it s a retaliation regarding what he s saying. thank you so much, senator. i don t want to keep you from the meeting with president pena. you heard it, possible concrete actions regarding the war on drugs and consumer products, as you heard. rachel, we were watching that interview together and you were sort of nodding and said at one point, that s exactly the issue. walk me through what you heard and what stood out to you. i any whthink what we heard there is rising tension with mexico and we can expect representatives in that government are going to feel the need to retaliate, that whether or not concrete actions are taken, we know that rhetoric coming from president trump is having some very tangible effects within mexico. so whether we talking about a trade war, whether we re talking about decreased cooperation at the border, we re talking about problems hitting american consumers, we re talking about problems with combatting the drug trade at the border. this is a partner for the united states. mexico has served as a collaborator and a partner for the last two decades. let s not forget that that want always true. put this into context for me here. i spoke with alfonso aguilar. he said, listen, this lack of a meeting with pena nieto is not a long-term problem, a 20% tax would be. is this a bump in the road or are we going to be talking about this two years ago from a turning point? i don t think that one meeting is a problem. i think over a year of aggressive rhetoric towards mexico is what we can point to as the problem. i think we can say that year of very aggressive rhetoric. every country has the right to defend itself. the united states has the right to secure its borders as it sees fi this rhetoric around we have to build this wall, making this very aggressive and confrontational, i think that s what we ll see as the turning point is the way this is addressed. so if the wall discussion was happening but with a different tone from pluresident trump, do you see that as problematic? i think if president trump was saying i think it s important to find a way to increase borders and find a way to work more closely with our partners in the region to combat drug trade, i think that would be a legitimate discussion. how real is the idea this lift could embolden the liberal wing of mexican politics and put someone into power who is more anti-u.s.? i think we re already seeing massive support for the leading candidate of the opposition, who really advocates for separating from the united states. i absolutely think this could have a very heavy influence, if not jest the wall but specifically the larger relationship. i think you re seeing a sentiment among mexicans if the u.s. doesn t play with us, we don t want to play with them. but how do they play if they re literally not speaking to each other? part what was so insulting about trump s exetive orders was he signed them the day the foreign minister was in the united states talking to his government. to say they re not talking is not true. the foreign minister was on his way to meet with the president there and drove right past and kept on going. this is a country we share 2,000 miles of borders with, over the last 250-some years, w created a relationship with. i think we shouldn t have such short-term memories and we should be worried when we see someone not walking in the door to have that conversation see that has illustrative. much more coming up on president trump s tense relationships with mexico. after the break, we re joined by juan vargas. or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. find out how american here you go.picking up for kyle. you wouldn t put up with part of a pizza. um. something wrong? 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are you having conversations? where do you see an opportunity to work with republicans on this? it s clear the president is not going to simply change his mind like that? it s true. we have to try to work together. independe i m a democrat and i m very progressive, however, we didn t win. he won. unfortunately he s a bit of a caricature president. he doesn t seem to be a real president at the moment but there s a lot of serious people around him and we re trying to work together and we have to work together. we have a long border here. i represent the entire california/mexico border. we have lots of positive things going on. the things happening here along the border have been very good for both sides. we want to make sure that continues. we can t when you get all this heavy, awful rhetoric that is affecting our relation sishipre. i m going to work with the administration as well as i can. i m on the national prayer breakfast on thursday and i ll see him then. what do you plan to say to him when you see them then? chill out! read the bible a little bit. chill out. he s there for a religious person. look at matthew 25. when i was a stranger, you welcomed me. that s what jesus says. why don t you pay attention a little more to the bible. i think it will make things better for everybody. he s been probably hearing that message a little bit as he s been promising this border wall for 18 months, i think. if he moves forward of building this wall, what are your options? we already have the fence. in some areas, we have three walls. so they ve already built these. i kind of laugh when people talk about this. they put these things in saying this was going to stop immigration. it didn t. people got bigger ladders, they tunnelled underneath. unless he wants to put up a fourth fence, a fourth wall somewhere, we already have it. if you start at the ocean, literally 150 yards into the ocean, they have all these gigantic pillars and the three border mountai border fences go to the mountains and they you can t build anything. the first one didn t work, the second one didn t work, the third one didn t work and i assume the fourth one s not going to work either. democratic congressman want vargas of california, we re going to get you on our schedule after that meeting with president trump. right now tens of thousands of people are expected t gather not far from where i m sitting right now near the washington monument for the annual march for life. history being made with vice president pence addressing the crowd. you re looking at live pictures before the rally begins. we ll head there live after the break. i am totally blind. watry.duo fusiong heartburn relief? 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it is the first time i ve been here. i felt like i was drawn here and i was supposed to be here for a reason. i believe this is the reason. and what s your feeling under this new administration? are you feeling more optimistic? we ve heard that from a lot of people. i am feeling more optimistic. i feel like tha the pro-life movement, the agenda, is going to be more heard from. okay. and what do you hope to get out of today? what s the message you d like to tell the rest of america? well, i think the reason i m here is because i honestly believe president trump has brought god back into washington, d.c. and back into the white house and i am just thrilled to be here. and what are you hoping to hear from the vice president today when he speaks? well, i m excited to hear what he has to say. i think it s going to be encouraging and uplifting. it s a new day in our country. that s what we re hearing from a lot of people in the crowd, this sense of optimism moving forward. nbc s kristen dahlgren live for us on the mall. thank you. president trump plans to speak with russian president vladimir putin on the weekend about what the white house is saying about the russian sanctions on the other side of the break. if you have medicare so don t wait. call now to request your free decision guide. it could help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that works for you. these types of plans have no networks, so you get to choose any doctor who accepts medicare patients. rates are competitive, and they re the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. remember - these plans let you apply all year round. so call today. because now s the perfect time to learn more. go long. donald trump had toward putin in the campaign. a lot of eyeballs. i don t know if there s going to be any ears listening in. i doubt they re going to tap their own phone calls but maybe. stranger things have happen. a hint from kellyanne conway. she made it very clear that lifting sanctions on russia would be an option. have a listen. all of that is under consideration and certainly in addition to improving relations with different leaders around the globe. if vladimir putin wants to have a conversation about how to defeat radical islamism, we re listening. two years ago it was then president barack obama who initially had to drag angela merkel along on sanctions with russia because there s so many economic ties between germany and russia. one other quick note on this meeting here, mattis will be meeting in the tank with the joint chiefs and president trump. they had dinner a couple of nights ago, all they white house about a two-hour meeting to discuss a range of issues. so we ll see whether or not there are actually any tasking orders or presidential directives to the present gone saying come up with some new plans to accelerate the plan. and mattis has been sworn in. he got his hair cut at the pentagon. the price is $12. you go in, you ask for a hair cut and they have one question, civilian or military? i ll get back to you on whether he asked for a civilian or military. hans, i don t know what we would do without you. thank you, pal. ambassador, hair cuts aside, i want to get your reaction on what we just heard from kellyanne conway. she said the lifting of sanctions on russia is under consideration. overall reaction to that, perhaps unsurprising maybe? this administration likes to lay out a lot of different options and create leverage for possible concessions. isis remains the priority for president trump and lifting financial sanctions is the priority for mr. putin. you can expect some kind of a combination there. this is the first call they ll have had and i think there will be pleasantries and introductory discussions as well. with president putin, my advice is to engage. there is nothing inevitable between conflict between the conflict with the west. butgage with russia from a position of strength. engage but beware. how does donald trump actually do that and will he do that? will that message from theresa may get through when the president has talked repeatedly about wanting a better and stronger relationship with vladimir putin? we ve also heard president trump talking about rebuilding our nuclear arsenal or updating it, talked about military investment. i think he s going to have a two-track strategy to project m america s defense and military capabilities will be robust but we need an ally in the fight against isis and radical islamic extremism. the challenge is going to be what happens in europe with nato. will there continue to be this tit for tat in overflights and reckless actions by mr. putin on the frontier of europe? in this phone call nato might come up. is there a way that donald trump could step in it with vladimir putin? england and theresa may are no fans of mr. putin. so inevitably i think there are a lot mine fields but i don t think they re going to take place in this phone call. this is going to be an opening gamut. i think that everybody s going to be reading between the lines but this is really going to be about just resetting, a poor choice of words, that s the clinton policy. but reestablishing a rapport with the russian leadership and of course it s going to be fraught with all kind of complications. ambassador stewart holliday. appreciate you being here. president trump talking about waterboarding, talking about how he believes it is actually an effective interrogation methods and experts in the field agree. is he right? 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it s already created some problems politically for british prime minister theresa may back across the pond. aisha, i ll start with you and chris, i want your take, too. trump has not consulted with any experts on any of these issues he s talking about. in this case we re talking about torture. he has literally running off of his gut and trying to convince us that this is the right pathway. but i think what we re going to continue to see is other leaders, members of congress, are stopping had and saying, wait a minute, we can t do that. even some of his senior advisers are saying to him that s actually against the law and that s wrong. the thing we should be talking about is how do d we end up in a situation that the president doesn t think we should be seeking counsel of his peers and advisers and other experts? the president has said he ll listen to the voices in his cabinet, people like mattis and mike pompeo, who have expressed real concern about torture. do you buy that? i don t think we should jump to conclusions about whether he s consulted or not. we have no idea who he s talking to. i think he did make se promises or charges on the campaign trail about what s he s going to do regarding torture. when you look at it, he has the same position as leon panetta. and that really does lead to a conclusion from donald trump as a candidate. this could be if you use waterboarding, it talks you to bin laden. you ve got to listen to the john mccains of the world. it s really difficult to arrive at a conclusion that torture is okay. having said that, i am confident that donald trump has surrounded himself with a group of advisers, you are mentioned mattis that, will point him in the right direction. i hope you re right. the campaign rhetoric is not the same thing as being able to govern. it s not but i don t think i m one of the few here either. sanctions, if he does lift sanctions against moscow put in place during the obama administration, what message does that sent? i think it s a good thing to improve relations with country like russia. having said that, russia has shown nothing but hostility toward us. that s why the obama administration put the sanctions in place. until we see that that hostility and those attitudes towards a dismissal of our security and process and our system of government is alleviated it, would be a mistake to unilaterally withdraw the sanctions. last word to you. i completely agree. until he gives us some room on syria and negotiating on ukraine, i don t think we need to drop any sanctions. i agree. thank you both for joining news a rare moment of agreement on our political panel at the end. i appreciate it. a live look at the national mall a week after tens of thousands of people came for president trump s inauguration, thousands of people are here for the march for life. we ll have much more. we ll right back. be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. and for just $15.99big festival of shrimp find out how american express cards and services you can pick 2 of 6 new and classic creations on one plate new flavors like sweet bourbon-brown sugar grilled shrimp and bold firecracker red shrimp are too big to last so hurry in. parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? 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or us. if you think about it, we would incur this cost. those donald trump signature suits made in mexico, when macy s cost them they cost $300, with this 20%, macy s would have to eat it or you or me, if you wanted to buy your dad that suit, it would cost an extra $60. but made in america is not a new idea, not a new concept. if you look at the way people spend money today, nobody pays retail. everybody wants a discount. the rise of amazon.com is because people want to pay the lowest amount of money and get the greatest amount of goods. to see macy s would eat the cost, macy s just closed 100 stores. margins have shrunk, companies aren t willing to pay. i know america first is a great sound bite but people don t want to spend. it s not mexico who would incur the cost, it would be the united states. and we saw a walk back, a little bit of whiplash from the team saying this was just a buffet of option, this was not the final plan. that s sort of what s extraordinary here, maybe it s a shot across the bow but it leaves so many of us wondering how trade works, it isn t simply a back tax, a tariff. even if mexico were to be hit. it s about wages. labor would move to nicaragua, move to cuba, it could move to haiti. even if you said we re going to hurt mexican companies, we don t just import, we export to mexico. they re a trading partner. they re our third biggest trading partner in the world. the question so many people are asking, does donald trump understand the trickle-down effects? this isn t like a casino owner walking away from a deal. a 20% tax, it could be your avocados, your ford fusion, your bananas. are people willing to spend more? they re definitely not. if mexico gets hit with it, its factories could move to another country. virginia senator and former vice presidential nominee tim kaine is sitting down with chuck