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paul ryan is making a statement right now. let's take a listen to what the speaker of the house is saying. >> tomorrow we're proceeding. >> reporter: do you have the vote? do you have to votes? do you have the votes? >> that was very quick. joining me now is chris hays the host of a show called "all in" with chris hayes, i do believe, if i get myself properly correct. also he's in philadelphia right now promoting his amazing new book "a colony in a nation" i highly recommend it, you need to read it. it's a terrific book. he's doing that tonight and being on the show as well as mckay coppins who has great book but we won't promote that tonight because it's chris ha s hayes' show. you heard the speaker of the house say they're going to come to a vote tomorrow morning but there's a extraordinary piece of reporting that the bowes says it's one and done, you either pass it tomorrow or we're dropping repeal and replace. what do you make of that? >> there is so much about what i want to say about what has
from here on out. >> because he didn't get his -- the votes you were seeing that was not them voting on health care, just procedural votes before the big one tomorrow. chris, i'm wondering what you think the role of the declining -- it was already low but declining credibility of the white house given the lie about being wiretapped. given the fact we've learned about the fbi investigation and the sort of drip drip drip of information on russiagate. how much do you think that played into republicans not being afraid of this white house and being willing to say no? >> well, i have heard from folks on capitol hill that it makes a difference that his approval rating is at 37% and it makes a difference that the bill is incredibly unpopular. that does make a difference in the political calculation. in a more kind of banal human way, negotiating with someone who is a demonstrated fabricator presents credibility problems. and not just that, the lack of mastery of the policy makes it even hard to make pledges so the fact that he doesn't know -- he
affordable care act and a complete deregulation of the insurance industry coupled with massive subsidies which would be a recipe for essentially a million different trump university health care -- health insurance operations to spring up and offer people scam insurance and collect federal dollars. that is what will happen if this hybrid monster were to actually become law. >> and sell those trump university health plans across state lines because that's what's supposed to fix health care. chris, let me show you this new york republican who is saying vote or be done tomorrow morning. >> we have to have a vote tomorrow. he expects it to pass but he's moving on. if for some reason it didn't. but his plea is to our party, our party to come together as a team and pass it. >> so mckay, he's talking there about -- the "he" is donald trump who he talks about like
there are policy affects that they seem to have absolutely no investment in either way. >> mckay, the only thing they seemed to care about was not letting bit called trumpcare which is why everyone calls it trumpcare. but it is weird that the president made a big deal of this on the campaign trail. he was just in kentucky making a big deal about repeal and replace. is it -- is this a trump characteristic? that he only cares about getting a deal and he that he doesn't seem to care at all about the contents of it? >> well, chris compared it to a real estate deal in atlantic city. with real estate deals in atlantic city at least trump had some idea, some working knowledge of the details and cared about how it turned out. >> and then they all failed. didn't his atlantic city businesses go down in flames? >> fair enough. let's not give him too much credit. but i think the reality is here joy you earlier in the show teased a segment on the kind of legislative meltdown on capitol hill as a massive failure early in the trump presidency. i think president trump who, by the way, could be watching right now, he's a well-known cable
follow through on their repeal of obamacare which they have cast as a massive emergency that needs to be addressed urgently. at the same time i think a lot of republicans are calculating they don't want to go home and explain to their constituents why they passed a bill this messes up their health care and massively disrupt the health care system. >> kind of? they would have to go home and say "congratulations, i took away your medicaid." i don't know how they think that's good politics. i'm going to keep both of these fine guests, one of whom is a guy named chris hayes. we'll keep them around and take a quick break and we'll be right back. 's another option. drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity, and helps you get back to things like this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle.
news junky, he hates to hear that. above all, he wants a win. he wants to be able to point to something right now and say i did that, right? i promised you i would repeal obamacare and i did it. i think chris is right that he doesn't know that much about health care policy. he doesn't know anything about the legislative process. he just wants it to be done and what we're seeing is the affect of that, he's making promises left and right just trying to get enough -- scrape enough votes to be able to win and -- i mean, we're seeing the consequence, it's not turning out well. >> chris, it is stunning to me that the amount of things that have been picked up, run with like it was the most important thing and then dropped. where's the muslim ban? i'm not saying i want them do it, but remember we were all going to die if they didn't do the muslim ban immediately and now they don't talk about it anymore. the wall. this was the most important thing and mexico's going to pay for it. these things are going away. >> that is a fantastic point and to be contrarian in a weird way for a moment, i think of all the bad options on the table i
on the repeal of the health care law. talking to members as they were leaving, there was a bit more optimism about the fact that it's effectively game time. they have to decide. but i don't think there's any reason to believe that this is going to go through easily. notably the house speaker did not respond to the question about do you have the votes, just that we're going to proceed. that keeps the pressure up but it certaly is not foreshadowing optimism about this. what happens if they do decide to put this aside and move forward? next they would plan to tackle tax reform which might be less of an emotional issue on some matters compared to health care that's so personal for people. could they get a win there and then try to come back to this? it's unclear. but this is one of those ultimatum moments, take it or leave it. another top official said "i think the republican conference will take it." we'll have to see how it plays out. joy? >> thank you very much, kelly o'donnell. chris hayes and mckay coppins is with me. chris, looking at the graphic