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Sunday Night in America With Trey Gowdy

to sign her to cover congress they both are joined the anger and the fall out from the coup d'état of speaker mccarthy is still there. and it is reelection time. what do you expect from congress in 2024? >> i think 2020 phobia back to the same we had in 2023 were published a better job fighting themselves, try instead of fighting democrats. you saw a little over a year ago chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell before republicans took control of the house. they passed a massive spending bill. republicans since then they have not been able to get their hands around the power of the purse they pass continuing resolutions in every opportunity they have not cutting any spending they have the one is the i don't think you have a republican party that sees if you can garner a 60 or 70% when it's actually a win.

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Sunday Night in America With Trey Gowdy

they both are joined the anger and the fall out from the coup d'état of speaker mccarthy is still there. and it is reelection time. what do you expect from congress in 2024? >> i think 2020 phobia back to the same we had in 2023 were published a better job fighting themselves, try instead of fighting democrats. you saw a little over a year ago chuck schumer, mitch mcconnell before republicans took control of the house. they passed a massive spending bill. republicans since then they have not been able to get their hands around the power of the purse they pass continuing resolutions in every opportunity they have not cutting any spending they have the one is the i don't think you have a republican party that sees if you can garner a 60 or 70% when it's actually a win. you and i solve a similar end

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

significant was this for our nation? >> unprecedented, which is not a word that people like me use very much. the notion that the president of the united states would be charged criminally in a state for what is functionally a coup d'état is a remarkable moment in the life of the republic. and the question going forward for us is are we able to prove that we are a country that is governed by laws and not bipartisan feeling? that in large measure is on trial here. >> susan glasser pointed out that after a slow start, the american justice system seems determined to throw the book at the former president. how big of a moment is this specifically for our justice system, and how big of a test is this? >> to me, the big question is are we up to the task of democracy?

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FOX News Sunday

many times the fraud insider trading identity theft is speech forging checks is this a first amendment protects all kinds of things but organizing a coup d'état is not one of them. your response? >> well, what you think the obvious problem is with that statement? none of those examples involve a political speech that is the points. all those examples involve core criminal activity. but what we have here is a political speech where president trump is petitioning the government. of course saying something fraudulent and a prospectus or an accounting statement is not protected. or robbing a bank is not protected. but all of those examples are ridiculous because the first amendment protects political speech higher than any other speech. the reality is if you are going to talk about the law you have to understand what the first amendment sfirstamendment says t

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FOX News Sunday

context and interfere with politics unless you have put attorney general bart used to call a meat and potatoes of crime a very serious offense that is supported by very convincing evidence. but it is a doctrine of law the first amendment does not protect you from evidence to prove conduct. that is why we do not get first amendment arguments in mafia cases and other kinds of crimes. it's not that you are banned from making the statements but they can be used as evidence for conduct. for me, the bigger problem for the government's case is whether the think they have charges conduct. like a herd in the clip you played you do not get to organize a coup d'état against the government. that is fine. but when they show me this section in the penal code that says illegal to do it trump did to organize a coup d'état against the government then i will believe it. but they cannot tie him to violence. i think they have charged him with was not actually a crime

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FOX News Sunday

context and interfere with politics unless you have put attorney general bart used to call a meat and potatoes of crime a very serious offense that is supported by very convincing evidence. but it is a doctrine of law the first amendment does not protect you from evidence to prove conduct. that is why we do not get first amendment arguments in mafia cases and other kinds of crimes. it's not that you are banned from making the statements but they can be used as evidence for conduct. for me, the bigger problem for the government's case is whether the think they have charges conduct. like a herd in the clip you played you do not get to organize a coup d'état against the government. that is fine. but when they show me this section in the penal code that says illegal to do it trump did to organize a coup d'état against the government then i will believe it. but they cannot tie him to violence. i think they have charged him with was not actually a crime

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FOX News Sunday

many times the fraud insider trading identity theft is speech forging checks is this a first amendment protects all kinds of things but organizing a coup d'état is not one of them. your response? >> well, what you think the obvious problem is with that statement? none of those examples involve a political speech that is the points. all those examples involve core criminal activity. but what we have here is a political speech where president trump is petitioning the government. of course saying something fraudulent and a prospectus or an accounting statement is not protected. or robbing a bank is not protected. but all of those examples are ridiculous because the first amendment protects political speech higher than any other speech. the reality is if you are going to talk about the law you have to understand what the first amefirstamendment says and whatt

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American Voices With Alicia Menendez

>> obstruction of justice. that's what we are talking. about that's what we talked about with nixon. abuse of power, certainly that's one of the things that we talked about with both trump and nixon. to compare nixon to donald trump, to use a metaphor from these storms that are hitting washington and elsewhere, nixon is a lightning bug, donald trump is a lightning storm. it threatens to knock out our power grid. this is a level of magnitude that is way, way, way beyond nixon. look at it this way. you are mentioning alluding to january 6th. the insurrection that involved the famous attack on congress and threatened to a coup d'état that could have overturned our system of government and gotten rid of joe biden. installed donald trump as an unelected president who might have wanted to serve forever. the scale of that is so far beyond nixon that if we are looking for historical parallel,

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American Voices With Alicia Menendez

that's what we are talking. about that's what we talked about with nixon. abuse of power, certainly that's one of the things that we talked about with both trump and nixon. to compare nixon to donald trump, to use a metaphor from these storms that are hitting washington and elsewhere, nixon is a lightning bug, donald trump is a lightning storm. it threatens to knock out our power grid. this is a level of magnitude that is way, way, way beyond nixon. look at it this way. you are mentioning alluding to january 6th. the insurrection that involved the famous attack on congress and threatened to a coup d'état that could have overturned our system of government and gotten rid of joe biden. installed donald trump as an unelected president who might have wanted to serve forever. the scale of that is so far beyond nixon that if we are looking for historical parallel,

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

about the week that, was celebrated author and presidential historian -- michael i'm so grateful you are with, us i heard you even left your wife's birthday dinner early so this is an extra special thank you. >> you are so kind, we are still married, i'm happy to, report she thought this was a -- crazy for me to -- -- what is your reaction to another charge, and we could be seeing even more next week? >> this is surreal, i would think if you and i were talking ten or 12 years ago, i wish we had the pleasure at the time, before all this, began in 2016, we would have said that there was a president who waged a coup d'état, an insurrection, and was in the process of being indicted in, and some of those

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