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so what mr. lauro did is basically lead the prosecutors to a roadmap of what they intend to argue. here's to follow up on what danny said, is true. technically correct. that there is not a technical violation of the constitution but his client is being charged criminally with conspireing against the civil rights of other persons. conspireing to injure and intimidate people from their free exercise of their constitutional rights. so no. he's not being charged with a violation of the constitution but there's a criminal charge his client is charged with. the free speech argument. let me just say, and danny's a defense attorney. i wouldn't expect any defense attorney who's confident to go on tv to say my client is guilty. i give up. you have to defend your client. you have to work with what you have. you have to say i'm going to change venue. you have to make those arguments but i can say the free speech argument is ridiculous. he will make it and then the
>> and it went on and on. chuck todd and of course john laurel. danny, what do you make of these initial public defenses from john laurel over the past weekend? >> his statement there is technically correct. in other words, that a violation of the constitution, the constitution's not a criminal code. although it does contain one or two crimes defined in the institution but the rest of it is not a crimes code but trump isn't charged with a crime under the constitution. he's charged with crimes under the united states code which contains federal crimes. that statement, while technically correct, isn't that relevant. you can violate the constitution in many ways and have it not be criminal. no one's saying that. what they're saying is what trump did is criminal and the defense is saying he was exercising his constitutional right. so a violation of the constitution is a bit of a red
justice in this case. he stayed on the attack this weekend railing against president biden and mike pence, the trial judge and jack smith. joining me now on this, nbc justice and intelligence correspondent, ken dilanian. former manhattan assistant district attorney, catherine, danny and soon to be the post's next national editor. danny, i want to start with the latest line of defense from john laurel on the discussions between mike pence and donald trump leading up to january 6th. >> he said the president asked him to violate the constitution which is another way of saying to break the law. >> no, that's wrong. a technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of criminal law. that's just plain wrong and to say that is contrary to decades of -- >> we're, while we, let's get --
conducting a criminal investigation and regular citizens caught up in it, even if they had nothing to do with the crime, usually have no recourse. >> one thing they say they found was a 279 weapon arsenal in a walk-in vault in the house. that should be an interesting part of this case. >> very interesting part of this case. as police cast a wide net, something that may be completely innocuous, something that may seem to mean nothing may end up meaning a lot later. sometimes the evidentiary value is glaringly apparent from the moment you lay eyes on it and that might be a vault with 200 weapons in it. >> all right, thank you, danny. i'm sure we'll be talking about this a lot more going forward. and still ahead, the swing state shift, the big change today for the wisconsin supreme court that notoriously came within just one vote of overturning joe biden's 2020 win. and later, the world cup nail biter, team usa hanging on to advance to the knockout round, but, boy, was this heart
rejected that offer. if the jury reaches a verdict today, the sentencing hearing would be tomorrow. a new jersey judge just heard from attorneys in the case against rust film weapons handler, hannah gutierrez reed. the judge ruled to have charges thrown out claiming extrajudicial statements made to the press would taint a future jury pool. steve patterson is following this for us. criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny is here. what's the latest from court, steve? >> this hearing wrapped up about 30 minutes ago. very important information pertaining to this sanctity of this case. the armorer onset of that movie, she is responsible for any ammunition, any of the weapons, any of the props that wind up in the movie. somehow, live ammunition ended
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♪ january 15, 1974 started out different. i asked my dad to take me to school early that day so that i could get an extra study hall in. my brother and sisters, danny and carmen, they went with me. joe drops those three older kids at school, and he returns back home and joins his wife, julie, in getting the two younger kids ready for school. they're doing typical stuff -- making school lunches, gathering backpacks, getting ready for julie to drop those kids off, when the unthinkable happens. ♪ singular: he goes into the house. he draws his gun. one of the first things that he does is cut the telephone cord, and then he tells them that he just wants their car and some money and if he can tie them up
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it is not cold water, but it is warm and warmer and warmer by every minute, but i will be drinking it, and be hydrated. back to you. >> all right. danny, we will let you get back inside and cool off. john, you said it is a scorcher, because you from massachusetts, and i have philadelphia saying it is hot. >> oh, i have a t-shirt that says that. oh, you made my day. tonight, the republican candidates will be on the stage as the first time, and donald trump is going to be on the same stage as ron desantis for the first time. this is coming as the new indictment charges are filed. >> and where and how the other candidates may be breaking through. with more agility. ♪