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u.s. politics, republican and congressman paul ryan reluctantly coming forward to take on the job as speaker of the house of representative. he made the announcement a few hours ago. but he says there are conditions. he wants support from three key factions within the party. and he says he s not willing to give up valuable time with his young family. ryan says he plans to make his decision within the week. this is not a job i ve ever wanted and ever sought. i m in the job i ve always wanted here and congress came to the conclusion thats in a very dire moment, not just for congress and the republican party, but for our country. and i think our country is in desperate need of leadership. i asked republican strategist leslie sanchez if paul ryan can unite the republicans. the issue is this fraction between the conservatives and the establishment republicans and can he bridge the gap. he s seen as a national figure, a big leader. he has conditions to accept this position, but i think if anybody can lead this party, it s certainly paul ryan. he understands the national, demographic, cultural, the changing landscape and the politics involved. across the aisle, vice president joe biden is still stoking speculation he could soon join the race for the white house, but it seems he s already started a campaign of sort against the current democratic front-runner hillary clinton. the senior washington correspondent has our report. joe biden spent the day reminding people he s one heart beat of presidency. they went around the room. leon panetta said go. and bob gates who already publicly said this said don t go. he said he had the last word with the president, not hillary clinton who said she advised the president with the high stakes raid. i was the one who said go ahead. his advisers were split. it was a very risky operation. biden didn t stop there. he said he had a hand in every decision, even choosing clinton as secretary of state. polls show biden in a distant third and more advisers say he shouldn t run, the campaign goes on. he says he doesn t always think republicans are the bad guys. i don t think my chief enemy is the republican party. this is a matter of making things work. hillary clinton was asked to name her enemies. in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans. cnn, washington. joining me now is bill carrick, he s a democratic political strategist. we re now at the point where he has to fish or cut bait. the more this goes on, the more good will he loses in the party? i think obviously these deadlines are coming up very quickly. and that s the one structural thing he had to deal with. i always felt like he could raise money online and in the donor race throughout the years. he s got to beat these deadlines. he doesn t have any choice. he s got to make a decision here quite quickly. he can t blow off entire states like the size of texas or georgia. it s ridiculous. we ve got a situation where it s pretty clear that part of biden really, really wants to run. then there s a conflict where another part of him is reluctant or hesitant. if he can t resolve that conflict soon, or maybe because he s taken so long already to resolve this conflict within himself, has his window of opportunity closed, has he missed the point? we have a new batch of polls that will deal with the reality of the vice president of the united states run, a guy who s very popular in the party, and obviously been the object of an outpouring of national sympathy. he also framed this saying leon panetta was gung ho to go do it and bob gates, the former secretary of defense was equally adamant not to do it. it s too risky. fall ryan if he does get this job, is he the guy? is he going to be conservative enough for the ultra tea party freedom caucus part of the republicans. paul ryan said okay, if you people promise to behave i ll get behind my leadership and we ll be one effect i have republican party. i isle do a job i really don t want. bill, good point. we appreciate you coming in. thank you, nice to see you. a new cnn poll shows two republican presidential candidates soaring above all of the other rivals, donald trump is holding a strong lead over ben carson. dana bash has the latest on the republican race for the white house. 2/3 of gop voters now say trump and carson are their first and second choice according to cnn orc s new poll. we are both resonating, there s no question about it. reporter: it s not just that trump and carson have support, it s that their supporters are excited about them. which makes them more likely to actually go out and vote. 30% of trump s supporters are very enthusiastic. 25% of carson s. by contrast, only 3% of jeb bush voters are enthusiastic about him. we need to be much more forceful both here to protect the homeland as well as overseas to create a strategy to unite the world against this great threat. i don t believe donald trump has the capability of doing that. just two weeks ago on the same cnn program, he said the opposite. we made a terrible mistake getting there in the first place. we had brilliant thinkers that didn t know what the hell they were doing. when reminded of that today, trump denied flip flopping. look, afghanistan is a different thing. it s neck to pakistan and pakistan has nuclear weapons, okay? the trump confusion and controversy has not hurt him in the past. despite questionable remarks about women, appearing to make fun of carly fiorina s face, he s tied with female republican voters. i think women all over the country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. as for fiorina, the only female candidate in the republican race served after a strong debate showing last month has ended. dana bash, cnn, washington. we have this into cnn, a new york city police officer is shot in the head while chasing a gunman in east harlem. he was responding to reports of gunshots. the plane clothes officers exchanged fire with a suspect who was arrested and treated for gunshot wounds to his leg. ban ki-moon will meet with palestinian leaders in the next two hours. he appears at a conference with benjamin netanyahu. we need to keep the situation from from escalating into a religious conflict. it does seem no end from the attacks from the palestinians and the tough security measures from the israelis. another act of violence this morning in the west bank. a 15-year-old girl was shot while she was, according to israeli officials, trying to approach an israeli jewish settlement with a knife. we don t know the status of that 15-year-old girl just yet. but as you touched on the cycle of violence shows no sign in the foreseeable future. is this the new normal? random knife attacks carried out by individuals seeking to harm israeli citizens, police, soldier, attacks seen with such frequency over the last two weeks. they continue, and that would mean the very tough restrictive israeli security measures continue as well. including the effective lockdown that exists around some fall stinian communities in east jerusalem. the other option, well, that s even more grim. tensions as high as they are, it could almost be triggered at anytime. at this point are speeches and calls for calm pretty much next to useless? and if so, then where does that leave the situation as to what needs to be done within the israeli leadership and the palestinian leadership? well, so you have the u.n. secretary general having a go at trying to calm the u.s. secretary of state is going to try his hand here as well. perhaps these international figures could convince the palestinian leaderships to dial back their language a little, perhaps trying to denounce some of this violence, but no real hope that s going to happen. the reality is on both sides, there s the belief that the other is talking and behaving in ways that is only exacerbating this con in incompetent, this cycle of violence, if you like. so the israelis blame the palestinians for using what they say is enormous incitement for effectively encouraging the terror and violence that s taking place here, the hatred of jews, they say. the palestinians, well, they believe that this is all part of the anger and frustration over what they perceive as the wider israeli occupation of their territory. disproportionate security responses, israeli oppression and so forth. this is where we re at. the grievance in a sense are very old. they re just more retractable now than perhaps they have been in a long time. there s no sense of any negotiation or peace process moving forward from here. there s not even an agreement on both sides as to whether that will make any real difference to the security situation on the ground. so again no real optimism, any sort of talk or negotiations at this very preliminary level at which they re taking place would really have any major impact here, john. thank you. phil black live. 8:15 on a 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obama, justin trudeau and the president agreed to deepen already strong ties with the two country ps .but mr. trudeau also made it clear he will pull canadian fighter jets oit of the fight with isis. u.s. republican congressman paul ryan says he s willing to replace john boehner, the retiring speaker of the house of representatives. but first, he wants the support of three key groups within the party. he also wants to make it harder to overthrow a sitting speaker. he says he ll make a final decision within the week. hong kong has long been suspected of playing a legal role between africa and china of illegal ivory smuggling. now there s video showing hong kong ivory traders offering illegal sales and getting around those legal restrictions. we have more on this and ivan, really hong kong is often seen as a weak link globally in so many ways. earlier this week, britain s prince william issued a speech in which he warned at the current rates of killing, the wild african elephant could be extinct on the african continent within a generation. and, of course, the poachers are going after that very valuable elephant ivory tusk, which isle illegal to be traded across borders. what many people may not know is that ivory is bought and sold openly here in hundreds of shops, licensed shops in hong kong. a long investigation by a nature conservancy group has concluded with the accusation that at least some of these ivory traders may be involved in smuggling illegal poached ivory. ivory for sale. giant elephant tusks. on display in shops. ornately carved with drills in back room workshops, luxury i m items that have long been coveted in places like china. there are hundreds of licensed ivory dealers in hong kong, like this store here. they all say they sell i ve are from stockpiles of el sfant tusk that existed before the international sale of ivory was banned in 1989. but a year long investigation by a nature conservancy group wild aid suggests some hong kong traders are cheating the system. what does this video tell you? the legal trade of ivory in hong kong is masking illegal trade. tape shared with cnn includes this clip which shows an ivory dealer posting how easy it is to launder ivory by swapping legal pre1989 elephant tusk for freshly poached ivory smuggled in from africa. in a separate video, a m merchant offers to get fresh shipments of ivory from africa. africa is struggling with an epidemic of poaching. hunters kill tens of thousands of wild african elephants every year. the government in mainland china, long one of the world s largest market for ivory has been cracking down on ivory smuggling. last month, the u.s. and chinese presidents announced plans to stop the domestic commercial trade of ayery. authorities in hong kong tell cnn, they re also cracking down, seizing 16.7 ftons of smuggled ivory in the last three years and introducing a more sophisticated tracking system to better regulate the sale of legal ivory. but one local lawmaker wants to shut down ivory sales altogether. while we can stop the buy, we can stop the killing, too. activists fear the largest living mammal to walk the earth could be extinct within a sen generation. a. if we don t stop it fast enough or soon enough, what will happen is you and me have to tell our next generation, our kids they are once upon a time there were elephants on earth. say no to ivory! some schoolchildren in hong kong have joined the campaign against the ivory trade. a hong kong university poll shows a majority of people surveyed here support a ban of ivory sales, but it could take years before such a ban is put in place. precious time for africa s dwindling elephant population. john, we reached out to the hong kong government for comment about some of these allegations and received a response from hong kong s agricultural fisheries and sonar is vags department which insisted they ve taken serious measures to try to track down on possible smuggling such as conducting a stock check of all licensed ivory in the city, tearing out surprise npgs of licensed ivory shops and introducing a marking system, tamper proof hologram to track ivory. for those, again, who are urging that hong kong impose a complete bad on domestic trade on ivory in hong kong, such as the kban discussed by chinese and american presidents just last month, legislators here say it would be at least a year before such a plan would be on the table before lawmakers. john? sounds like they re stalling. a pressing but important report. thank you very much. the downpour from a typhoon is over in the philippines. it killed at least 26 people while force managerer than 100,000 others into shelters. the storm lingered over the island nation for days, bringing flooding, strong winds, as well as lands slides. residents now starting to clean up. officials say the damage could exceed $100 million. the storm brought some of the heaviest hateful ever for the philippines. . on the order of 15 to 20 every single year. never before with ve seen the amount of hateful across these observation points. you go 1,300 millimeters in a 24-hour period, that s 52 inches of hateful we re verifying these records, this is the case from automatic gauges. we re talking again about the wettest single event across portions of the philippines with hundreds and hundreds of storms across this region. by we open the record books. we ve had hateful observations from cyclone denise back in 1966 of 72 inches coming down in 24 hours. we ve had severe drought across parts of texas and 14 million people dealing with drought across this part of the united states. possibly ten or more inches throughout the next couple of days around corpus christi with tropical moisture interacting with a trough in place. there s certainly flooding concern. if you take a look at new york city, 36 degrees, that s about 2 celsius if you re watching us across the united states. 2 celsius on monday morning. look what happened in the 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reporter: well, it s only 9:00 a.m. local time and we ve already heard about the first violent incident today. it involved a palestinian who according to israeli officials was approaching an israeli settlement in the west bank. they were apparently carrying a knife. warning shots were fired and ignored. and so this person was shot and we re told juried. but the palestinian volinvolveds a 15-year-old girl. there is no sign this recent cycle of violence is drawing to a close. one of the alternatives being this is the new normal in the renal, this that this cycle of regular attacks involving palestinian attacks acting and seeking to harm others with knives and weapons as well, that that will continue on a daily basis while the israeli security crack down continues as well, particularly controlling the movements of palestinians around some of their communities in the east of jerusalem. the other alternative and the u.n. secretary has touched on this in his comments is escalation, where things only get worse and given the powder keg type mood that exists here, at the moment, it s difficult to predict what sort of event or occasion could really trigger that, but there is always the sense that that could happen easily here. and, phil, the tension, the divide, the lack of trust between israelis and palestinians, it s something that s existed for decades since israel s creation, and not a single negotiated peace plan has reversed any of that or even held, and currently as we ve discussed the oh posing sides aren t even talking to one another. with the u.n. secretary general there, though, are there any new ideas being thrown around? any reason for a sliver of optimism? reporter: well, i don t think the goals at this stage are quite that ambition. they ve talked about having to return to talks for a peace process, but at the moment the focus is in dialing back and stepping back a little, using more language that is certainly dialled back, perhaps less insightful, although both sides make the accusation of each other. here on the ground there s little optimism that that sort of effort is going to have any sort of success with the u.s. secretary general trying to ease tensions here. you ve also got the u.s. secretary of state in germany with the israeli prime minister. there s expected to be an effort to dial things back there as well. little home. what both sides agree on or believe is that the other is behaving and using language in such a way that only exacerbates this and makes it worse and neither side believes anyone can influence that in the short term. and those opinions have existed for some time. five past nine in the morning there. phil black live for us in jerusalem. thanks. we turn now to syria where there s no letup in russian air strikes. the defense ministry reports the strikes hit 60 targets in a 24-hour period after several close encounters in the skies, the u.s. and russia have agreed to measures to keep their aircraft safe. we have details of the new protocols. reporter: the pentagon agreed to russia s demand not to make public details of the joint agreement on how to prevent u.s. and russian pilots from crashing into each other in the skies over syria. the u.s. is not revealing how vague the agreement is. our crews know exactly what a safe distance and the obligation is upon the russians to maintain that safe distance. reporter: but cnn leshed it does not specify how far away us and russian aircraft have to stay from each other. these protocols include maintaining professional airmanship, the use of specific frequencies and the establishment of a communication line on the ground. reporter: if there is an incident, a u.s. pilot will have to call the american command center in qatar. but in reality, there may not be time to call. russian pilots have come as close as 500 feet to american jets in recent days. on thursday, a russian aircraft flew within 1500 feet of two u.s. jets. the american pilots tried calling the russians on the radio. no answer. the russians continuing with aircraair strikes, the skies getting more crowded. the russians may not be hostile to american pilots but an air force official tells cnn, the last thing any of us wants is a midair collision, reand that s e biggest concern. if there s a collision between aircraft, sometimes it s too late for the aircraft to visually identify each other and move apart. reporter: u.s. officials emphasize so far there is no hostile intent from the russians. nobody anticipates a shoot down, but there s still plenty of concern about the potential for an accident. barbara star, cnn, the pentagon. in the meantime, the fight for the northern syrian city of aleppo is intensifying. regime forces are battling to retake the city. it s the largest in the country. thousands of civilians are seeking refuge in fields, some with only mattresses to shield them. the u.n. estimates 35,000 people have been forced from their homes. a representative from a medical aid group gave an emotional first-hand account of the relief efforts and the exodus. we can t do this alone. we can t provide enough food. we can t provide enough medicine. we can t provide shelter. even if we do so for a small portion, we can t do it alone. we can t take it. we can t. so helpless. so tired. i m sorry, but i can t i can t stop. we don t know what to do, for god s sake. i swear to god, we are just about to collapse, all of us. just heart breaking there. our international viewers can watch that full interview on amanpour coming up in a few hours from now. you won t want to miss it. they ve tried so hard for so long to bring help to these in syria, and his emotions taking over there. many of syrians are fleeing their country as they make their way to germany. atika shubert has that part of the story. reporter: they walked in a long snaking line from croatia into slovenia. more than 2,000 seeking refuge in europe in this group alone. going to a registration camp for a capacity for just 400 people. with hungary closing borders, refugees are trying to cross to germa germany. slovenia has tried to reduce the number of migrants coming in to 2500 a day. that s only a portion of these trying to enter. slovenia is now considering building a border fence to regulate the numbers coming. and there s no sign of stopping. a record 10,000 migrants crossed in from greece undeterred from rain and mud and many came from syria. now, in english, isis, you call them isis? yeah. isis came. before the it was just airplanes. the same events, every day. but now isis came. that s not the life. at the scene to provide food, aid, and counseling on how to apply for asylum a group was there. but few wanted to say. at this time we re using to provide a little bit of comfort to counsel them, to talk to them, to get to know their stories and to find out a little bit about more, why they re moving, how they re moving and what they need. reporter: instead, most keep moving north to croatia and slovenia, hoping to make it to germany before more of europe closes it borders. we move to u.s. politics now. and the search for a new speaker of the deeply divided house of representatives. republican congressman paul ryan said he didn t want the job and now he s stepping up with conditions. late monday ryan said he s willing to serve but only with support from three key factions within the party. he also said he doesn t want to give up valuable time with his family. if i can truly be a unifying figure, then i will gladly serve. and if i m not unifying, that will be fine as well. i ll be happy to stay where i am at the ways and means committee. now, ryan says he hopes to make his decision within a week. current house speaker john boehner plans to resign at the end of the october, but he can t do so until there s a replacement. and ryan has leverage at this point. and it s unusual to see a man put the value of time with his family. that s unique. paul ryan saying give this to me and i ll consider it. we ll see if he gets what he wants. we ll see if he can unite. next on cnn news line. as one hopeful drops out, another may be getting to step up. we ll have more on joe biden s possible run for the white house. and a lavish dinner at the buckingham palace. next. the beautiful sound of customers making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi, and streaming entertainment. that s. seize the journey friendly. the way i see it, you have two choices; the easy way or the hard way. you could choose a card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or, you could make things easier on yourself. that s right, the quicksilver card from capital one. with quicksilver you earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere. so, let s try this again. what s in your wallet? 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killing of osama bin laden. everybody went around the room. only two people were absolutely certain. leon panetta said into, and bob gates who s already ably said this said don t go. as we walked out of the room and walked upstairs, i said, i told him my opinion. that i thought he should go but follow his own instincts. reporter: a difference in what was thought. also making clear he had the last word with the president, not the secretary of said who has long said she advised the raid. i was one who recommended that he go ahead, and hissed advisors were split. it was risky. reporter: biden said he had a hand in every decision, even choosing clinton as secretary of said. the president said you have veto right on anybody in this cabinet. for biden, time is running short. he has deadlines in alabama and texas. even his new polls show biden in a distant third and more democrats say he shouldn t run, his campaign in waiting roars on. that s the healthy part reporter: he said again today, he doesn t believe republicans are always the bad guys. i don t think my chief enemy is the republican party. this is a matter of making things work. reporter: a not so subtlel jab at this moment from last week s democratic debate when hillary clinton was asked to name her enemies. in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans. reporter: cnn, washington. a new cn n orc poll has donald trump and ben carson leading the republican race. donald trump is the front runner and followed by ben carson. at the other end of the spectrum is carly fiorina who dropped 11 points in the past month to just 4%. donald trump isn t ruling out a trump carson ticket for 2016. on cnn s new day, he said they both like each over, and, quote, stranger things have happened. but he says it s too early to think about it seriously. how does a candidate who is trailing in the polls drum up support? martin o malley highlighted his musical skills, that s in quotes. on the view. we got bad blood. take a look at what you ve done, and maybe we got bad blood does he get a passing grade for that? he actually played and sang in a band. maybe it was quite a few years ago. he said he chose to play it because katy perry was endorsing his rival. that was rumored about the rival between swift and perry. earlier this summer perry posted this photo on instagram offering to write a theme song for clinton. in just a few hours china east president will meet with the prime minister. capped by a state dinner. he and his wife are on a four-day state visit focussed on expanding the country s commercial ties. they went to buckingham palace and addressed both houses of the british parliament. protesters were on hand voicing their concerns about china s human rights record. people across northern philippines are picking up the p pieces after a typhoon killed at least 26 people. there was historic rainfall even for a part of the world accustomed for such weather. pedram javaheri is here to talk more about the situation. we so often talk about wind speeds. there s really no category for rainfall amount. it s the water that s displaced when we talk about storm surge or the water over land are the vast majority of fatalities associated with storms. and remarkable rainfall totals among the highest we ve seen from any storm around the world with this. we ll break down what s transpires. incredible the fatalities staying in the 20s. you take a look at what occurred. some of the obser vaguervationo rainfall totals in excess of 28 inches in 12 hours. this is greater amounts than we saw in the state of south carolina for that risk one in one thousand year event. that topped that in 12 hours. these rain gauges record these amounts. they re verifying those, but this would be records for the country as a whole. you look at the global records for the most rainfall ever observed from a single event in 24 hours, back to 1966, 72 inches came down with that storm in 12 hours. that particular storm brought down 45 inches which is the number that you would have to have in the united states to set the all-time record for rainfall from a storm system. we have about 50 to 100 millimeters left in the forecast. a little amount compared to what s occurred over the region. the other story we re following, the migrants across portions of europe are dealing with weather. on the croatia border, a lot of people dealing with cooler weather. and we head toward the heart of the autumn months and the cold months, the rainfall going to be an issue and even snowfall in some of the higher elevations. a tough go into the cooler months of the year. a little moisture and a little water, changing things. changing things around. a beloved american tv personality is recovering after a fall in hollywood. that s right. bob barker, you should recognize him. he s the long-time host of the price is right game show. he tripped and hit his head on the sidewalk. place say barker who was 91 was conscious and alert. apparently he s fine. he was rushed to a hospital where he was treated for cuts. now, the advocacy group, the southern poverty law center has filed an ethics compliant in the u.s. state of alabama. he told defendants if they didn t have money for their fines, they could donate blood or go to jail. an affiliate, wsfa has the story. reporter: the audio appeared to have judge marvin wiggens on record telling defendants to pay up, give blood, or go to jail. the they say defendants in more than 500 criminal cases were mailed notices to appear before wiggens that day. it was a day when a blood drive happened to be underway at the courthouse. you re doing a good thing. and i normally do, but i don t like being told i have to or i m going to jail. reporter: an attorney with the splc said this is a shocking ethics but for the nly judicial- constitutional rights of defendants. when asked about the order, the governor expressed concern. i m not so sure you can ask somebody president on wednesday. a police officer is dead after a shootout in new york city. the officer and his partner were not in uniform when they responded to reports of gunshots in an east harlem neighborhood. the 33-year-old officer was named randolph holder. he was shot in the head and later died. a suspect is in custody. republican paul ryan is setting conditions for a possible bid to replace the retiring john boehner as speaker of the u.s. house of representatives. ryan says he would serve as long as three key groups in the party support him. he says he ll decide whether to run for the post within a week. i want to return now to the israeli palestinian conflict and take a step back from the day s headlines and look at the roots of this latest round of violence. the palestinians say the grievances go deeper. many have lost hope. watching settlements expand and peace negotiations fail time and time again. ben wedeman has their side of the story. reporter: pull up your pants, t shirt, turn around and show your i.d. that s the only way residents of the east jerusalem residents here can get to the center of the city under tough new security measurements in the wake of a spade of stabbing attacks. benjamin netanyahu has repeatedly accused palestinians of inciting the check points, but ask the palestinians, and they say the same thing, the israeli occupation. the occupation sleeps on our chests, on our stomachs, this 63-year-old man says. says this woman, occupation is oppression. oppression is subjugation. the june 1967 war, more than half a million israelis have settled in jerusalem in the west bank often on confiscated palestinian land. israel set up an expensive network of roadblock and check points across the west bank and now walls and concrete blocks have gone up in jerusalem. occupation means that you have approximately 2 and a half million palestinians living for almost 50 years now under military administration. reporter: the palestinian authority set up after the 1993 accord has little authority beyond the confines of ramallah. occupation is the major incitement of the people. people want to live normal and feel free. there s nothing wrong. reporter: a former palestinian authority warns that stopping the violence without addressing the causes won t cure the ills of this unhappy land. they think that advil can help you. it can be a pain relief for a short while, but it s not curing you. you need air yreal medicine to you, and here that s the end of occupation. the clashes here and elsewhere in the west bank continue. the attacks on israelis also continue. reporter: in the last 30 years there s been two major palestinian uprising. there have been many more flairups like this one going on right now. and in the absence of a final resolution to this problem, more flairups and more uprisings aren t likely. they re inevitable. respect more of the same, only worse. ben wedeman, cnn, on the west bank. the palestinian perspective there. now let s get the israeli side. the repeated stabbings and other attacks by palestinians have left many israelis on edge. benjamin netanyahu has vowed to fight what he calls the wave of terror, saying its root cause is not occupation or settlements but the desire to destroy the state of israel. phil black visited a jewish settlement where people say they are the legitimate residents of the land. reporter: a sprawling city, home to some 180,000 people. almost all of them, palestinians. the rest a tiny fraction of the population, drawn here from around the world to fulfill a religious dream. it s the beginning and the cradle and the foundation of jewish history. reporter: this is one of around 700 jews who have settled in the center of the city located in the west bank. territory israel took from jordan during a war. it s by palestinians and much of the international community consider this occupied territory. there are so many people out there that you and your community as occupiers, are they people right when they say you re occupiers? totally not. reporter: why not? hebran was liberated. reporter: israeli soldiers are still here guarding the hand full of states that make up this isolated area. a palestinian man lies dead shot by a jewish settler who said he was defending himself against a knife attack. that spurred conflict. jews blame the ongoing violence in what they call an incitement machine made up of mosques, schools, media and politicians which they say train palestinians to hate jews, and they insist it s not new. these are just some of the victims. reporter: i m shown a museum exhibit dedicated to a massacre when palestinians turned on the local jewish community murdering 67 people. it happened right here against an innocent jewish community 40 years before the state of israel was even established. reporter: there s been lots of violence since then, at a sacred site, burial plans to the bible abraham. there is a view that the violence is fuelled by the total absence of negotiations, any viable hope of an end to this conflict, the jews don t buy that at all. reporter: a view, palestinian views use incitement and terror to treng then their hand in getting their goals. it will continue if they think they re going to achieve palestinian. the idea of a two-state solution, israel and pal tine has peaceful neighbors doesn t fly. eventually, we re here to stay. determination that will be met with more violence because these jews and the palestinians resisting them all believe their cause is just. phil black, cnn, in the west bank. a change in guidelines for breast cancer screenings that some call confusing. why an influential group says women should wait longer before getting a mammogram. we re back with that in just a moment. at mfs investment manage, we believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can take calculated risks. active management 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baa shar haal asaad. reports say they spoke of the fight against, quote, terrorist extremists and support for syria s military. matthew chance joins us live from moscow with details. matthew, the source is the kremlin it. we can read into that and say they re not trying to hide anything. what do we know? reporter: well, they hid, i suppose the fact that bashar al assad had traveled her last night, it seems. it s now early in the morning, to visit vladimir putin, the russian president. the news of the meeting has only just been broken on state media here in russia. and we re just getting tidbits of information about what was discussed. a few lines coming from the kremlin s spokesman confirming he was in moscow on tuesday meeting with the russian counter parts, i suppose, vladimir putin, discussing questions, this according to to the kremlin spokesman, questions linked to the continuation of russia s military operation in syria. apparently the syrian president informed vladimir putin about the situation in his country, and of the plans of syrian government troops. now, of course, the troops of bashar al assad alongside iranian forces and fighters of the he is bylaw have been trying to recapture lands taken by rebels over the last several years. that land defensive has been backed by escalating russian air strikes. russia has been playing the air force in that alliance, and it s that campaign that was discussed. they re calling it a campaign against terrorist groups in syria and the continuation was discussed as well of russian air strikes. but again, a surprise meeting, i suppose, between these two figures central to this sh in syria. matthew, we know that russia has had a long relationship with the al asaad family. we v even before the current president, and we know the two have been in contact during this october campaign with russia s air strikes in syria. why meet in person, do we think? reporter: well, i think it underscores the personal bond between the russian state and the asaad dynasty. of course, bashar al assad s father since the collapse, the alliance has been somewhat worn thin by the lack of resources on the russian part. but obviously in recent years russia has been bolstering its military and putting a lot of money into that. it s been made wealthy by oil resources and high prices commanded until recently, and it s taken steps over the past, perhaps, year or so, but particularly over the past two weeks in the intervention in syria to shore up its waning influence in the world. you know, the kremlin regards bashar al assad as its main ally in the middle east, and the main bulwark against the spread of islamic state that got military and islamic ties to syria. they re concerned about violence as well, and this is again, this personal meeting, underlining that russia stands squarely behind its syrian ally. matthew chance is live in mosc moscow for us. 10:04 with the news about the meeting between vladimir putin and baa shshar al assad on tues. canada s next prime minister says he ll pull canadian jets out of the fight against syria and iraq. he spoke on the phone with president obama on tuesday. he told spoupporters that canada will take a bigger role in humanitarian work around the world. i want to say this to this country s friends all around the world. many of you have worried that canada has lost its compassionate and constructive voice in the world over the past ten years. well, i have a simple message for you. on behalf of 35 million canadians, we re back. a bit of enthusiasm. they also discussed the environment and trade. and the leaders agreed to generally grow the already close relationship between their two countries. the u.n. secretary general is preparing to meet with palestinian leader. it s a surprise visit to the middle east to discuss the spiraling violence in the region. on tuesday he met with the israeli prime minister. at least eight israelis have been killed by palestinians either stabbed or run down with cars in the past few weeks. israel ee s response that be forcelful. the secretary general is trying to convince both sides to reign into the bloodshed. netanyahu pinned the violence squarely on palestinian leaders. i believe it s time to tell the truth about the causes of palestinian terrorism. it s not the settlements. it s not the peace process. it s the desire to destroy the state of israel, pure and simple. the president has been fanning the flames. he said on september 16th just a few days ago, that he welcomes, quote, every drop of blood spilled in jerusalem. the chinese and palestinians stand on the brink of another catastrophe period of violence. we need to keep things from escalating into a religious country with regional implications. and cnn s phil black is in jerusalem. he joins us now live, and of course, as the diplomatic efforts try out, with the secretary general trying to dial back violence in the region, there s new violence today. what details are coming to light? reporter: rose marmary this something we re told a palestinian approached a settlement carrying a knife. warning shots were fired. they were ignored so this person was shot, shot in the shoulder. the injuries are not serious. but the palestinian involved in this, a 15-year-old girl, according to palestinian officials. and so the cycle continues as it has done for three weeks now. that s how long we ve been seeing these random, almost improvised opportunist attacks taking place where palestinians have sought to approach and harm people here. and the response from israeli forces who witness or try to stop the attacks is usually, well, it s pretty lethal. in this case it appears the young girl was injured but not palestinians have been shot either while attempting the attacks or in the immediateafter math of them. there appears to be in break in the cycling of violence we ve been seeing. the security measures are tough, especially around the palestinian community here, and as you heard, the u.n. secretary general there warning there is a concern that while this has become the new normal, these attacks taking place every day, there is always the chance and the real fear that this could escalate further. and this is the concern. of course, you mentioned the u.n. secretary general, he has already met with the israeli prime minister. he will meet with the palestinian president. but is there any chance that his pleas will be heard in the midst of all of this? it doesn t seem to be a reason to be optimistic about this at the moment. after meeting or around the meeting that the u.n. secretary general had with the israeli prime minister, you heard that some of the comments a few moments ago, very much sticking to the same, hard line really, in making no doubt about who he holds responsible for this violence. the palestinians themselves who are conducting the attacks but more than that, the palestinian leadership which he says is responsible for inciting this violence, for encouraging it, really, for what he says create, he has described it before as creating this culture of incitement where palestinians are in the views of israelis, trained to hate jews and carry out attacks and be glorified for them. the palestinian views had been hard in their nature and blames what they consider the ongoing oppression and the tough measures that come with that. the positions the grievances are old but very much entrenched. the violence continues and though neither side is optimistic that things are about to improve. what they both believe is that both sides, behaving in ways, using language that only exacerbates the tension we re seeing. and the u.n. chief there trying to dial back violence and in the midst of that, we re reporting more of it. phil black is reporting live from jerusalem. many thanks to you. to another big story. thousands of migrants and refugees, many of them syrians, stranded as they try to make their way to western europe. some of those countries are struggling to handle the number of people flooding to their borders. reporter: they walked in a long j snaking line from croatia into slo sleen ya. in this group alone, more than 2,000 seeking refuge. with hungary closing borders, refugees are trying to cross ultimately to germany. slovenia has tried to reduce the number of migrants coming in to just 2500 a day. that is only a portion of those trying to enter. slovenia is now deploying its army and considering building a border fence to regulate the numbers coming. and there are no signs of stopping in macedonia over the weekend, a record 10,000 migrants crossed in from greece, undeterred from rain and mud. many came from syria. now, in english, isis, call them isis? yeah. isis came. before the war, just bombs, you know. the same every day, but now that s not the life. unhcr were at the scene for food, aid and counseling, but few wanted to stay. we have about fix hours in total. at this time, we re using to provide a little bit of comfort, to counsel them, to talk to them, to get to know their stories and to find out a little bit more about why they re moving and how. reporter: instead, most keep moving north to croatia and slovenia hoping to make it to germany before more of europe closes its borders. the intensified battle for the northern city of aleppo has driven tens of thousands of people from their homes. we want you to hear this. a representative from a medical aid group gave an emotional first-hand account of the desperate relief efforts and a plea for the world to end this war. listen. we can t provide enough food. we can t provide enough medicine. we can t provide shelter. even if we do so for a small portion, we can t. we can t take it alone. you just see our faces. we haven t slept in days now. it s beyond our capacity. for god sake, we can t take it anymore. no one of us slept for the past four days. we don t know what to do. help us. do something to end this war. i mean, what s wrong? have we done to endure such a bloody, stupid war? it is enough for us, we can t take it anymore. we can t. we can t. so tired. so helpless. i m sorry, but i can t. i can t. we don t know what to do, for god sake. i swear to god, we are just about to collapse, all of us. the emotions are understandable, and you can see the entire interview. it s well worth your time. it will air on amanpour at 10:00 a.m. for those of you in london. when we come back, a big question is looming in u.s. politics. will joe biden run for president? we ll have the latest on a possible white house bid. and he s eluded authorities for more than authorities. now mexican officials say they re close to recapturing the country s most wanted drug king pen, elle chaup poe. we tayou keep the peace. nose. we calm your congestion and pain. you rally the team. we give you relief from your cough. you give them a case of the giggles. tylenol® cold helps relieve even your worst cold & flu symptoms. so you can give them everything you ve got. tylenol® welcome back to sh cnn newsroo newsroom . we are getting our first images of a surprise one on one meeting between the russian and syrian presidents. the first time we re getting a glimpse at this video. russian state media report, bashar al assad flew into moscoo for talks with vladimir putin on tuesday. you see them here having a conversation. reports say the pair discussed the joint military campaign against militants in syria. we ll continue to gather more details on this meeting as they become available. we need to move from an opposition party to being a proposition party. because we think the nation is on the wrong path, we have a duty to show the right one. our next speaker has to be a visionary one. all right. well, a congressman of the republican just a small technical issue, rosemary, with your microphone. we ll pick it up. that s paul ryan wanting to be speaker of the house. it will only happen if he gets support from three different republican groups. we know he s 45, he represents the district in wisconsin. he may remember in 2012 he was tested on the national stage when he was tapped to be republican presidential candidate mitt romney s running mate. that campaign failed. ryan says he currently has his dream job as the chairman of the house ways and means committee where he s been trying to overhaul the tax code. despite that resume, ryan may not necessarily be able to unify the divided house of representatives, one said. paul ryan is a good choice. he s a good temperament. he has youth on his side. he s a relatively good messen r messenger. he s adept at taking something policy wise, and presenting it in layman s terms, and he s been groomed by john boehner and he has the approval of what grass roots would call the establish. . that being said, they re concerned about his past. the he supported tarp and medicare part d, and the company with whom he s kept. while john boehner has been the face, it s been paul ryan that s been the planner behind the scenes. and ryan says he will make his final decision to run for speaker within the week. and he is getting some unexpected support from senate minority leader, harry reid, a democrat who is incredibly unpopular among republicans. now to the republican presidential race. a poll shows two candidates way in the lead. donald trump has 27% support. ben carson is close behind at 22%. carly fiorina who surged to 15% after the republican presidential debates in september dropped 11% points to just 4 %. republicans are loving their outsiders right now. meanwhile on the democrats said, speculation is growing over whether joe biden will one for president. even though he hasn t announced his decision, a campaign of sorts as begun around hillary clinton. reporter: joe biden spent the day reminding people he s one heart bee away from the presidency. the best decision was to join the president. reporter: flexing his vice president shl muscles like rarely before. even invoking the killing of osama bin laden. there were two people who were definitive and certain. leon panetta said go, and bob gates who has said this said don t go. reporter: old disagreements from the situation room would flair up in a potential democrat presidential race. as we walked upstairs, i told him my opinion. and i thought he should go but follow his own intingts. reporter: making clear he had the last word with the president, not the secretary of state, clinton, who has said she advised the president to authorize the high stakes raid. i was the one who recommended to the president that he go ahead, and his advisors were split, because the it was a risky operation. reporter: biden didn t stop there. he said he had a hand in every decision, even choosing clinton as secretary of state. reporter: the president said you have veto right on anybody in this cabinet. reporter: for biden time is running short. he has deadlines in alabama and texas and georgia. me polls show biden in a distant third, and more democrats say he shouldn t run. his campaign in waiting roars on. he said again today he doesn t believe republicans are always the bad guys. i don t think my chief enemy is the republican party. this is a matter of making things work. reporter: a not so subtle jab at that moment when hillary clinton was asked to name her enemies. in addition to the nra, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the iranians, probably the republicans. cnn, washington. cnn political analyst, josh rogen joins us now from d.c. to talk about all the big headlines in politics. josh, great to see you once again. before we talk about biden, let s talk late night surprise in d.c. representative paul ryan saying he s willing to serve as house speaker for the republicans. that would put him second in line as far as succession is concerned. how was he convinced to take what s described as the worst job in washington. after meeting with house conservatives, paul ryan gave a press conference moments ago here in washington where he said that he would run for the job if and only if several conditions were met h. he said he has to have weekends to spend time with his family. he said the caucus has to be unified which is code for no more challenges to his leadership if and when he gets the job, and he said he wants to rules changed to he won t fight for his job six months down the line. what convinced him was the prospect that the republican party might not be able to solve this leadership crisis without him. he felt obligated to step up to the step. he s giving until the end of the week to see if they can live with his conditions. whoever takes over has to link the right wing and the moderates. as we look at biden, it appears as though he s prepping to run on president obama s record, kind of creating elbow room between his own and hillary clinton s positions. at this stage, is there any way he s not running in your view? anything can happen. until he announces it, he can always reverse what sources close to him say he s leaning toward a run. we see in his public statement, increasingly, him not only placing distance between himself and hillary clinton but also tieing himself to president obamaqgfs2 president obama s record. today quite shockingly, he reversed his previous story about whether or not he supported the raids that eventually killed osama bin laden. previously he said he was not in favor of the raid. now he says, according to his latest version, that he did support the raid in a private meeting with obama that no one else was at. another people are seeing it as him fudging around the edges to make his point. finally for you. donald trump tops yet another cn n orc poll. 27 % of those polled want them as his nominee, this is among republicans. he s changed positions. should establishment republicans be worried by now at the very least? not only should they. they are worried. increasingly worried. that was fascinating about that poll was that while trump s support levelled out, t not going much higher or lower. establishment party candidates are going down. including jeb bush. so that s an overall bad signal for that part of the party. these fights, especially the fight between bush and trump over what happened before 9/11, really only hurts jeb bush. whoever is voting for trump or likes trump has factored in the fact that he doesn t know policy well, that he says crazy stuff and gets into these brawls with the other candidates. those kinds of incidents really don t hurt him. but they do hurt who he s fighting against. and we re more than a year away from election day. so much can happen between now and then. josh rogen, joining us from d.c. any time. another story we re following. a new york police officer is dead after an exchange of gunfire with a suspect in east harlem. 33-year-old randolph holder and his partner were responding to reports of gunshots when holder was shot in the head. a suspect was later arrested and treated for gunshot wounds to his leg. holder was a native of gaughfiv of the police department. and what could save us from a global crisis in we ll take you deep inside the norwegian mountains, next. we appreciate you staying with us. welcome back to those of you watching here in the states and all around the world, this is cnn newsroom and i m errol barnett. and i m rosemary church. here are the main stories we ve been following. vladimir putin and bashar al assad held a face to face meeting tuesday to discuss the military campaign in syria. russian state media report asaad flew into moscow for the meeting. this comes as russia has carried now numerous air strikes in the country with a ramped up offensive in aleppo. and the canada s new prime minister spoke on the phone with barack obama. they agreed to deepen their strong ties but mr. trudeau also made it clear he will pull canadian jets out of the fight against isis and iraq and syria. and a surprise visit to the middle east imploring to stop the violence. on tuesday, the u.n. leader met with the israeli prime minister. a snowy forfresz in norway may seem like an odd choice for the largest collection of crops on earth, but that is exactly where the world has placed the seed samples and faith. arwa damon paid a visit. reporter: glittering, like an exotic gem in the distance. the entrance to the small seed vault extends out of the side of an arctic mountain, looking more like a villain s lair than where humanity has banked the seeds of its survival. we walk into a long cement forebodiing hallway. protection lines the wall against falling ice. that s about 150 meters down into the mountain. this is the frost here in granite. reporter: the crop the u.s. overseeing the vault guides us deeper into the mountain with each step, the temperature drops. it s like something out of a movie. it is like a holy place. every time i come here, i feel like i m in a cathedral. this is a place to pause and think. it s a very unique place, and it s an important place for humanity. this is so beautiful. reporter: and yet, it s so simple. it s just a door, but behind it is the key to humanity s salvation. there are 860,000 types of seeds from all over the world here. you get boxes from nigeria, the united states, that s an interesting box right here. this box comes from the democratic ñmmr0wpeople s repub of korea. the only wooden boxes in the vault. reporter: this is humanity s insurance policy meant to safeguard against events that wipe out our crops. despite multiple conflicts around the world, they say that s not what will bring about our demise. the agriculture is not ada adapting as fast currently as the climate is changing on us. we have to adapt to rising temperatures, so wind and storm and flooding. new diseases and pests, we have salt water coming into the rice patties in the field. these tolerances to those issues are found here. this is the diversity of the jea genes that you re going to use to adapt agriculture, and you don t know what you re going to know 50 or 100 or 500 years from now. reporter: even if power goes out, the vault can preserve these seeds for decades. in the race against climate change, protecting our past may be the only way to ensure our future. arwa damon, cnn, norway. well, as we ve been reporting, the leaders of russia and syria have held a face to face meeting to discuss their joint military campaign. russian state media report president bashar al assad flew into moscow for talks with vladimir putin. matthew chance joins us from moscow with the latest on this. matthew, let s talk about the significance of this face to face meeting between two leaders at this particular time. what might this signal? reporter: well, i think it s pretty significant in the sense that this is believed to be the first time since the outbreak of the syrian crisis in 2011 that bashar al assad, the syrian president has made a foreign trip, and that trip is to the kremlin. russia has been providing air support and air strikes, carrying them out against anti-regime opposition rebels inside syria with some considerable effect. there are counter offensives on the way involving others as well which apparently are making progress against the rebels on the ground. and, you know, this face to face meeting underscoring the importance of that alliance, not just for syria, but also for russia as well. russia sees syria as its last bas yan of strength in the middle east. it has lots of military and economic interest in the country, and it s essentially backing syrian the syrian government to the hilt to make sure that its influence in the region doesn t erode further. it s a key meeting for both the leaders. interesting it was secret. it was only news that emerged this morning on state television where you can ee see in the brak ground that s been tweeted by the syrian government, and the russian defense minister as well there. they discussed, according to the kremlin, the continuation of russia s military operations in syria. bashar al assad thanks the russian leader and the russian people for the help they re giving syria. also state television broadcast a sound bite of vladimir putin saying he wants to talk in the political process as well. a key meeting in which the issues regarding the sooesh campaign and the continuation of the conflict there were discussed. and it will be interesting if we learn any more than that from these face to face discussions. mexican authorities claim the most wanted man is still on the run, and he may be injured. an update on the hunt for el chapo, next. starting now with roc® retinol. holiday season. it s up to two times stronger than imitators. try roc® retinol correxion® night cream. after 1 week, fine lines appear to fade, 1 month, deep wrinkles look smoother. and after one year, skin looks ageless. make you roc retinol resolution today and put your best face forward in 2016. 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we ll break down it s going to do. you see the convection and thunderstorms. it s brewing and the track of the storm is close to the coastline. about 100 miles per hour wind. it s a healthy category two. land fall sometime this weekend. eventually poert vie yar a. upwards of 10 inches. all of this remaining offshore. the potential for it taking to land is. hurricane olaf is out there. this storm system is a category 4 storm system. you tally up the numbers, the 22nd storm across the northern hem fe hemisphere. we re literally shattering the records across this region. fortunately, it does meander to the eastern side. massive dome of high pressure. look at the temperatures. incredible to think a month ago today autumn began across the northern hemisphere, and we re talking mid 70s fahrenheit for this wednesday afternoon. it s been there all week. look out for hurricane pat. patty. authorities in mexico say they just missed capturing el chapo earlier this month. a mexican official says they think guzman injured himself when he fell off a small cliff as authorities closed in on him. martin savidge is there. reporter: he s mexico s most notorious drug lord, and authorities say they re close to recapturing him. we re trying to get a sense of how close, but it s not easy. for security reasons, we have to keep a low profile because the risk we face include everything from corrupt cops to an army of drug cartel informants are who are looking out for everything we do. sometimes the video or audio might not be as good because we re using less than traditional means. reporter: cornered him near a down in northwest mexico. exactly what happened isn t clear, but it was definitely violent. reportedly mexican marines got so close to him that he was injured in the dash to get away, but he got away, much to government embarrassment. locals tell a different story. they describe a less precise military strike with helicopters raiding gunfire down on homes, vehicles and people. guzman escaped from a maximum security in a mile long tunnel. that s not out of character. part of his drug lord success is due to his extensive use of tunnels to smuggle drugs into the united states. there s a reason that searchers are focussed on sin low ya. he feels comfortable, and it s where he was arrested before. in a house not that far away from here, and then brought to that high-rise beach front hotel and kept there for a couple of days until they could arrange a safe transport back to mexico city. for all these reasons authorities believe they are close, and the area remains on edge. everyone here knows it is an all-out effort to find the man called the most dangerous criminal in the world who may be injured, desperate, and possibly cornered. there is a lot that could go wrong. martin savidge, cnn, sinaloa state, mexico. we ll take a break but it is time to fact check the movie s prediction, back to the future. we ll see where things stand when we return. many wrinkle creams come 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ba el bakraoui. there s lots going on tonight. there s new video obtained by cnn. it shows the horrific first moments after twin bombs went off in the brussels airport. it s difficult to watch but it s important because it shows the terrible human toll of this attack. the rubble pup hear the shots of the victims and rescuers. heart breakingly, a baby crying in the middle of that debris. the video was shot by a taxi driver who was outside but ran into the airport to try to find his son who worked there. thankfully, though, his son is fine. our affiliate, cnn greece, supplied us with that video. let s begin with nick pay ttonp wa wallsh. he s the clear link paris and the terrorism in brussels. they haven t tested dna or fingerprints. it is not clear who the man in the white is and it is not clear whether the man who blew himself up in the metro, if he acted alone. there are still questions here, one particular one, don, stems from information from the turkish government. they quite clear that ibrahim el bakraoui was deported last year because he had tried to become part of a band group and potentially tried to cross over into syria. didn t quite manage to do it. a huge tipoff to the belgianbel. what is the feeling tonight about intelligence there tonight, nick? i think people are deeply concerned. there are many things that people know the authorities don t know, like who is the man in white? w was khalid acting on his own? why was there so much explosives left in the flat that was raided, 15 kilogramkilograms, 4 world. another man was close to salah abdeslam, a planner of the paris attacks. a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of nervousness here. in the central square there s been a sense of unity and defiance for the fear they tried to instill into the people but there are a lot of questions that have to be answered. their response, they re overwhelmed, they can t track everyone that comes back. but they missed a lot of signs here. nick paton walsh, thank you. right now they re still trying to identify the man in white that we ve seen, unless they re just not public lily identifying him. we now there was a be on the lookout that was sent out in europe yesterday for an individual authorities believe is tried to the brussels attack. it s unclear if that person is the man in white. the big concern is this ready-made network in belgium, in france. we saw it in paris with salah abdeslam and now the concern is he s being protected by others in europe. we have the brothers, ibrahim, who blew himself up at the airport, he was deported from turkey back to belgium last summer. they said he had ties as a foreign fighter, that belgium was alerted to this and that belgium didn t do anything. and his brother had an interpol notice, issued just this year for terrorism charges. and then we have the paris bomb maker, who we have learned today was one of the attackers at the brussels airport. there was an interpol red notice issued for him as well. a lot of questions are being raised about what happened? how did they operate under the radar in brussels after the paris attacks when the city and the country was on such high alert? that s a good question. i want to ask you about that, about salah abdeslam s arrest. did it speed up the timeline of yesterday s attack? that s certainly the belief. initially it was a working theory and now officials have more concrete evidence to back that up. they found a laptop outside one of their homes, and in it they talked about how ibrahim had to rush because he was going to end up in jail with him. did they have this target picked out or was it just an opportunity for them after salah abdeslam was arrested? what is clear is that he they accelerated their plans. let s talk about americans. what about the threats here at home and overseas? the state department issued a rare alert saying americans in europe should be very careful, avoid crowded places, should really think twice essentially before traveling to europe because terrorists continue to plot near-term attacks. you don t hear that kind of language from the state department very often. clearly there s intelligence to back that up, don. here in the u.s. i m being told by counterterrorism officials they don t feel like the risk is as high for a brussels type or paris-type attack because of the proximity. it s harder for a foreign fighter in syria to make it into the united states. you don t have the same sort of integrative support system that you have in europe and europe has these porous borders. it s so easy for them to go to syria, get training, come back to the eurozone and go country to country. was a really broad alert. thank you, pamela brown. i want to bring in paul cruickshank? they thought he was going to be part of this attack. he s clearly not cooperating very much with security officials in belgium. they re going to have a lot more urgent questions for him in the hours ahead. if you rewind back about a week ago, they discovered salah abdeslam s safe house, his hiding place in brussels. they basically stumbled upon it, they got in a big firefight. they found an isis flag, a kalashnikov, detonators. a week ago that created a lot of concern that a plot was in the works. now the belgian officials believe the rest of the cell that weren t in that safe house were in another address. they feared they were going to get captured, the dragnet was coming in on them so they accelerated their plans. the much bigger attack was going to be with twice as many operatives. did they always think he was living there in plain sight? how significant was that? the officials thought the most likely scenario was that he was still in brussels, that he wouldn t have moved from belgium, from people who could keep him safe. when he came back to brussels from paris, he was given shelter by the very same isis cell, the wider network behind the attack. at his safe house he was being protected by a nigerian isis operative who provided covering fire as the belgians tried to get into that residence a week ago so that salah abdeslam and an accomplice could escape through the roofs of the building. so he was very much still in the isis fold, they believe still very much part of attack plotting. you said this was sped up because of the capture of salah abdeslam. but the bomb maker, najim laachraoui, does that tell you it was sped up? bomb makers don t usually die. they send them in and they go out, right? that s right. the fact that he decided to sacrifice himself i think perhaps indicates that they felt their final hours were up, that the belgians were closing in on them. one of the brothers left a last will and testament on a computer, which was found near the bomb factory saying we don t want to be arrested like him. they think the him was salah abdeslam. they didn t want to go to jail, they wanted to go to paradise to be rewarded in the after life. they had a tremendous amount of explosive. they had so much explosive, according to that taxi driver that picked them up, they weren t able to get all their suitcases filled with explosives. the taxi driver didn t know that but filled with explosives into the taxi cab. that s why they had to leave one of the suitcases behind. that s where they got a lot of the information, from the one they left behind. paul, i want you to stick around. when we come right back, the state department warns americans traveling anywhere in europe. how great is the terror threat and who is at risk? 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(laughs) whatever home means to you, we ll help you find it. zillow. secretary of defense ashton carter says it s time europeans beef up their efforts. you heard pamela brown mention the state department warning. it says terrorist groups continue to plan near-term attacks throughout europe, targeting sporting events, tourist sites, restaurants and transportation. they clearly have something they re basing that on. it s important to note. they re not telling americans don t go to europe. they re just saying be careful and stay away from locations where that can be a threat. my daughter is in europe right now and i m, you know, i m i feel good about her being there. i don t think we should be too a alarmed about that. politicians have breen acting. do you think their reactions have been appropriate? i have been distressed by donald trump s reaction and ted cruz s reaction. i think it plays into the jihadi narrative, that will is a divide between the west and muslims, that it is unbridgeable, that you will always be alienated and i think saying that the police have to patrol muslim neighborhoods, that we should resort to torture plays into that narrative and reduces our chance of creating allies within the muslim community. let s listen to them right now. it is standard law enforcement, it is good law enforcement to focus on where threats are emanating from, and anywhere where there is a locus of radicalization, where there is an expanding presence of radical islamic terrorism, we need law enforcement resources directed there, security resources directed there. look, i think we have to change our law on the waterboarding thing. he may be talk bing but he ll tk a lot faster with the torture. if he was talking, you might not have had to blow up all these people who are horribly wounded. i bet he knew about this bombing that took place potoday. when you poll westerners and easterners they say the other is violent. when you have presidential candidates saying that, they confirm that. at the end of the day if we are going to stop terrorism, we re going to require having allies within these communities and building bridges. london has done the best job of any european city in trying to stop this and that s because they send people into these communities trying to spread the word to stop this. is it possible that the candidates are only reacting to some very real fears from americans? oh, absolutely. and i think these concerns are absolutely legitimate. i and i think they may get worse. at the end of the day, isis is losing territory. it s lost about one third of its territory. i think that as its triumphal narrative fades, it s going to be more inclined to blow people up. so here as the question then. is it more important to try to use that rhetoric when it comes to making americans feel better torq , to make us as americans feel better or to sort of appease our allies and not offend people who may be prone to radical jihadism. it s important to reassure americans and i think to speak to americans, but i don t think it s helpful to otherize people based on their religious or their ethnicity, to separate people any more today than it was in the 1940s when we inturned japanese americans. and in the end we always regret that. it s not always unjust but are these different times than what you re there are certainly differences but looking back at the history of violent incidents, we re always scared and when we re scared we make bad decisions in ways that are unfair to particular groups but that are also inefederal coufec trying to address the legitimate challenges we face. the brussels event is going to further signify to europeans is that they, as we have been accelerating our campaign to defeat isil in syria and iraq and elsewhere, they need to accelerate their efforts and join us. he s absolutely right. it s not an accident this happened in belgium. belgium has had lousy intelligence apparatus, they have incredibly weak police apparatus. border control has been very weak. it s easier to get guns in belgium than in other places. you have very high unemployment in belgianbelgians. i think the entire world can do a much better job in addressing syria. i think the world thought too bad, syria can fester on ients a its own and it s come back to haunt us. the president has received a lot of criticism, him at a basketball game the same day as the attack in brussels. do you think this is politics or should he have handled this differently? the optics, you have him there and then you ve got 30 people dead and 220 injured. president obama is invariably, i think, right on the facts and on the merits. emotionally i think he was wrong in this case. we wanted some national comfort. and i think he missed that opportunity. yeah. as you look around and you turn to different media and i am very often on urban radio and everyone says it s racism but my counter is that it s just bad optics on a day what would you have liked to have seen from the president? i think he needed to speak to americans and provide not so much policy guidance as just reassurance, that i understand your fears, that it s legitimate to have those concerns and that we are doing everything we can to work with allies to develop policies to try to reduce the risk. you have a column coming out in the new york times tomorrow. it s called terrorists, bath tubs and snakes. i ll let you have the headline tomorrow. thank you, nicholas kristof. you can hear more from carol costello s interview tomorrow. when we come back on this program, ted cruz is calling for police patrols in muslim neighborhoods across america but will that make us safer? 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i used to work for the nypd intelligence division, there s a lot going on behind the scenes that you re not seeing that is very effective in the counterterrorism world. i m just saying some of the things fall more into the line of theater or i do feel better when i see the dogs. and you got the guy with the m-4, if something goes down, at least someone s there to throw down. how are you this evening? i want to talk about this. ted cruz said police should patrol muslim nakeds to get them before they become radicalized. here as how hillary clinton responded and then we ll talk. when republican candidates like ted cruz call for treating american muslims like criminals and for racially profiling predominantly muslim neighborhoods, it s wrong, it s counterproductive, it s dangerous. who s right? i mean, let s look at the facts and reality. i understand emotionality of the moment. however, what donald trump and ted cruz are saying not only doesn t work, it s a liability. the overwhelming number of people who went to fight with isis, foreign fighters come from a very particular neighborhood. charlie hebdo attacks, you had the kuwashi brothers. one of the first responders happened to be a police officer in paris. he died in the line of duty. there s other muslims who hid, for example, jews and the most important intel that we have come from the muslim community, come from muslim countries, turkey, saudi arabia, jordan, egypt. so hillary clinton, you think she s more accurate in her assessment? absolutely. look at the police officers for example in new york city. you have 1,000 police officer. you have bratton telling cruz you don t know what you re talking about. not only what he doesn t know, he s endorsing breaking a bond with a community that will give you information and intel on what is happening. do you agree with that? the fact is that the vast majority of muslim americans are shutry horrified with what isis is doing and there are many muslims involved in law enforcement. for example, here in new york city one of the key terrorism prosecutors in terrorism cases is an american muslim pakistani woman whose family came to the united states and has opinion involved with some of the biggest profile terrorism cases, prosecuting them in the courtroom. there are so many muslims like that in the united states. and so you ve really got to enlist the help of the muslim community, empower them to take on this vile ideology, the distortion of the islamic faith. if i may also go ahead. look, where to you recruit the most in muslims communities that are marginalized? europe has serious issues with integration. discrimination breeds more radicalization. one of the most important plots that was disrupted was the christmas bomber, they call him. who reported on him was his own father who wass nigerian head of central bank and called the fbi and said my on is about to carry out an attack. he s mus llimuslim, his son was. what he s saying is if you re in the muslim community, you may see that. there are cases where you can read about them where individuals will say i want to go join the islamic state or they ll talk about this perhaps with a certain group, a cluster in the back of the mosque, but if it s brought to law enforcement s attention, they can step in. a lot of people are caught before they can go join isis. one thing i can say is the europeans indulge in a lot of hypocrisy on this. they ll talk about how they re open minded, there will be more human sources running these communities. in any of these regimes in belgium or france or europe, that government all of a sudden could be considered too wimpy and then far right parties step in and say you can t trust these guys. are you talking about cooperation or about patrol? they re two separate things. one can easily transfer into another. often times there will be an evident to reach out to muslim communities. they ll be very open about that. that is what this is not what john mill are wmiller was talking about. he s saying in europe. i m saying in europe you ll have police doing outreach in the muslim communities and there s hypocrisy that happens. laachraoui, the guy who is dead, believed to be the bomb maker in this case, he came in as a refugee, via turkey, as a refugee. there s this whole question about asylum seekers, right, rula? should america crack down on asylum seekers? is it just too dangerous right now? the overwhelming majority of these foreign fighters are already citizens. the kuwashi brothers, these ares brothers that did the attack in brussels. all of them. but if you look at all of them and this is the thing that is disturbing, the overwhelming don t speak arabic, they don t read the koran. where did they get radicalized? in jail. jails in europe are a pressure cooker for extremists. and the policies intervene or the governments and agencies when it s already full formed jihadist and is operation an or about to be operational to stop him. but the process of prevention does not happen. a third party, before he become a terrorist, this is the space how would that work? how would the government intervene? it s very easy. i would like to know. hold that thought. we re going to talk about that when we come right back. when we come back, even democrats say that president obama has to do more to fight isis. that and more when we come back. . good, clean food pairs well with anything. try the clean pairings menu. at panera. food as it should be. heywhether to stay or go?re when it s go, the new choice privileges gets you there faster. and now, stay two times and you can earn a free night. book now at choicehotels.com our progressive direct rate. we let you compare great deals for reals! .and our competitors rates side-by-side, so you know you re getting a great deal. saving the moolah. [ chuckles ] as you can see, sometimes progressive isn t the lowest. not always the lowest! jamie. what are you doing? -i m being your hype man. not right now. you said i was gonna be the hype man. no, we said we wouldn t do it. i m sorry, we were talking about savings. i liked his way. cha-ching! talking about getting that moneeeey! talking about getting that moneeeey! savings worth the hype. now that s progressive. the manhunt spreads for at least one escaped terrorist. you were talking about intervention beforehand. you guys were disagreeing or at least discussing that. what was your point? there are a couple of ways to go with this. i m not sure exactly where she was coming at the issue but one problem law enforcement constantly has to deal with is respecting the rights of in this case muslim minority communities and also catch the point where rhetoric turns into jihadization. it s very difficult to do. you can say you hate america, you can say you hate israel, you can say whatever happens to our troops overseas is what they deserved. that s all protected under the first amendment. and then the aclu comes in and says why are you doing that in. the issue of integration, the italian prime minister and i basically agree with him, especially if you look at what s happening in certain european realities. 5 million muslims in france, 4 million in germany. you have others all over, especially in the u.k. he said whatever you spend on defense you need to spend another amount on integration. and this is where it comes. we need these kind of programs. i don t know if you speak arabic. you talk about terrorists but you need to understand the culture, you need to understand what is appealing. what is the message that isis is selling in these prison cells. i served in iraq and afghanistan targeting people that were doing beheadings and wearing suicide vests. i was doing that at a specific level. this point about discrimination. it s not discrimination. with all due respect why people like yourself who doesn t understand the language, doesn t understand the culture and doesn t even know i don t know what that has to do with trying to prevent people from blowing up buses and that s too late. you re saying people who aren t able to assimilate properly there are a lot people who aren t assimilated who don t put on a suicide vest in is the sort of gap or divide that isis is looking for. exactly. a central pillar of the strategy in launching these attacks in europe is to create a hostile backlash against muslims in europe, in the west, so that they can use that for their own recruitment purposes. in their words, they want to shrink the gray zones in europe, in the west. in their view muslims will then not want to stay there, not want to be part of those societies, will be more sympathetic towards isis. sos that a big part of what they re trying to do here. and we have seen a lot of aggressive sentiment on both sides of the atlantic against the muslim community and that s playing right into isis s hands. let s talk about politicization here. this is what john mccain bucked and lindsey agreement graham said after allowing the isily threat to grow and strengthen for years, the administration still has no plausible strategy to destroy isil. do you agree? they ve lost about 20% of their territory in the last year. the west, the anti-isis coalition is winning but it s winning far too slowly. the richest terrorist group in history with more western recruits than any other terrorist group in history continues to ratchet up international terrorism. i wonder how much i do know about the anti-isis campaign. fair enough. let s play the video of the president at the baseball game yesterday. i m wondering how much this video of him at a baseball game feeds into what they are saying to him his approach might work over the next 50 years. in the meantime isis the commander in chief also doesn t speak arabic and seems to have a pretty good grasp of these facts or maybe he doesn t. all that said, i think that isis is clearly still maintaining enough of its territory it s able to act as a launchpad of jihadist attacks, it s only matter of time before it comes here. i m just trying to stop them and hoping others will do that as well. hang on, rula. the optics of what we showed i think what president obama did looked horrible. it looked very distant from what s a much more important issue, which is the fight against terrorism in europe. i think the president is trying to hand that off to the next administration. most people i know who are middle east, foreign policy u.s. strategy defeating terrorist experts feel that there is a half-hearted campaign. i have a negative minute left. can you do it quickly? i can do it very quickly. what matters is what we are doing. and basically what government has been doing, especially in syria or in iraq and other places. it s try to build this large coalition made basically by allies. our allies are not helping us, especially arab allies pup need to have native groups on the ground, muslim troops that goes there and basically ends the problem. but isis is also an aye idea th you might have strategic victory but also you have tactic victories. i think he is unfairly judged because of one episode but what we are selling, the idea that integration doesn t matter. it does matter and it s going to be a big issue for the next person who finds themselves behind the desk. you have to just jump in paul. coming up, how investigators are finding clues in rubble. lease a 2016 lincoln mkx for $399 a month only at your lincoln dealer. a terror suspect on the run as the urgent manhunt spreads. officials say they believe the isis bombmaker is dead. what else have they learned. joining me now, explosive enforcements officer larry kobilinsky. an islamic state bomb maker whose dna links him to a terror attack, is it unusual the actual bomb maker would be one of the suicide bombers? don, i find that very hard to believe and interesting. typically the bomb maker, bomb build builder, bomb designer, whatever term you choose to use is a prized possession. it would be basically somebody with my skill, my ability that can build bombs, decides to put a bomb on and go kill myself and it would be the end of my bomb making career. i know they re talking dna is linking him with the paris bombings, but it s quite plausible he had a hand in building those bombs but it could have been part of the indoctrination into the suicide jihadist type of, hey, you re going to become a suicide bomber, you re going to help in putting together these other dedd devic devices, a learning experience, training aid. that s my thinking on it. he s talking about najim l h laachraoui. clearly we have to identify the explosive. we go to the seat of the explosion. we have to do a grid search and the purpose of that search is to develop evidence and generate information. of course the goal is to get that kind of information so that we can identify who was at that scene, who were the perpetrators, there are body parts that have to be put together. but the key is to get information so that we can search out those other people, those maybe two dozen other people that are involved in this whole incident. there have got to be people that supported these people, that gave them shelter, that fed them, that gave them money. there s clearly a very wide network there. anthony, tell us about these types of bombs and their construction. they re changing, right? what s different now? i don t know that they re actually changing. just looking at the debris, quite extensive, a very extensive blast pressure wave went through there. i learned earlier today that it will probably be proven by the forensic analysis, people like lawrence, who will do the chemical analysis of the residue that tatp was probably used but you re going to find there was some other explosive such as ammonium nitrate. as far as the changing of the design and the tactics, they ve been pretty constant as far as the explosives they ve been using. thank you, gentlemen. when we come back, around and dangerous, the latest on the manhunt. plus the politics of fear. why hillary clinton says this about donald trump. if mr. trump gets his way, it will be like christmas in the kremlin. if time is infinite, why is there never enough of it? a john deere 1 family tractor with quik-park lets you attach and go. imatch quick-hitch gives you more time for what you love. so it takes less work to do more work. autoconnect drive-over mower deck? 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in brussels. then less than a half hour after that, an explosion hit a subway car at maelbeek station near the eu headquarters building. the prime minister has called this a dark moment for the nation. there s been no formal claim of responsibility. at this hour, here s how the associated press is putting it. explosions, at least one likely caused by a suicide bomber, rocked the brussels airport and subway system on tuesday, prompting a lockdown of the belgian capital and heightened security across europe. a spokesman for the brussels metro saying 15 people were killed, 55 injured. we have had those numbers updated. we are at war, french prime minister says after a crisis meeting called by the french president. quote, we have been subjected for the last few months in europe to acts of war. that s where we stand. the other big stories going on we ll get to president obama in a moment. our chief foreign correspondent richard engel has been with us following it all from washington. richard. well, if you remember the paris attacks, they took place over several days. and that is a concern in this case as well. is it over? how big is the cell? and i was talking earlier today to a u.s. counterterrorism official, and they said that american officials are looking at this question very closely right now. are there other people? how big was the cell? how do you know that the cell is has been deactivated? so it s not clear that this was an isolated incident in brussels. and there are fears that there could be other kinds of isis attacks elsewhere in europe. those are some things that u.s. officials are watching right now. going back to comments by malcolm nance, and others on your program, yes, this does seem to be a strategic campaign by isis. isis hasn t claimed responsibility formally. there has been one claim that nbc news has been unable to verify so far, but many isis supporters have come out and been cheering this attack and threatening more to come. the suspicion certainly, if you listen to the comments from european officials, is that this was an isis attack, and they re combining it and describing it in the same kinds of terms as they did to the paris attack and to other attacks, frankly, that have taken place. richard, we re all hoping that about the kind of extended attack stretched over time is wrong. and we re hoping this was a single incident. though dual bombings. a single act of violence on a single day. you have to wonder how much that city and country can take. they have been on edge since the paris attacks, after all. well, the paris attacks were launched primarily from brussels, from this neighborhood where the metro bombing took place today. maelbeek. that is one of the hearts or the isis strongholds in europe right now. certainly not the only one. and it s not surprising that the several of the paris attackers came from there and that earlier or last week, four days ago, that the authorities in belgium went back to that same neighborhood and captured the remaining paris attack fugitive. so things seem to be concentrated right there, and many officials have been criticizing belgium saying why wasn t security stepped up? why aren t why are these networks still allowed to operate there? how is it you had a terror suspect, a fugitive, captured in ma maelbeek, and days later, you have a suicide or a bombing, one witness said there may have been two times at the same metro station. why isn t more security poured into that neighborhood when that neighborhood keeps coming up time and time again? as a place where fugitives can hide, where recruits can be found, and today, where a terrorist attack can happen. you raise nothing but good points. richard engle, thanks, and stand by. we re going to go to havana, cuba. where the visit of president obama continues. it will end today, but one of the highlights of his trip is an address he is going to give to the cuban people. it will air, translated in spanish across cuba. this is the kind of split screen day we re having. we haare guessing the president will begin by talking about this situation in belgium. just as the french president did the same in the last few hours. he was at a business conference, and devoted the top of his remarks to the loss of life in neighboring belgium. andrea mitchell is covering the president s visit, covering this opening to havana. andrea. and the president is going to address it at the top of the speech. the white house had been meeting this morning, national security council meetings, informally with susan rice here in havana. secretary kerry also here. them talking to the president, rewriting that speech. that speech was really the baby and the brain child of ben rhodes, the deputy national security adviser, and he was the point person for the secret negotiations with havana, brokered by, of course, pope francis, none other than pope francis himself with the help of cardinal ortega here in cuba. all of this was more than symbolic, but now, everything is focused on the terror attack in brussels. the president will not adjust the schedule so far, but will be giving his reactions. and as we have been reporting, brian, as you know so well, back in november, the president did not respond very quickly or forcefully to the attacks in paris. and has acknowledged to jeffrey goldberg and to other print reporters who have been interviewing him in the last couple months as he reviews his foreign policy and talks about his legacy going forward, he acknowledges now that he did not realize how important the paris attacks were to america, and how americans responded with a great deal of fear to the terrorism in western europe. it was very immediate to them. you know how intensive our coverage was at the time and all of the other networks. so that s why he s going to be responding today as he speaks in havana. all right, andrea mitchell. we will keep an eye on that scene on the right. the podium where the president will be speaking. though judging from the crowd looking to the back of the room, it is quite possible that word has spread the president is getting close. we ll go to it when he begins. first, we want to talk to duncan guardm, a journalist who specializes in security analysis and more than that, can speak about the business of securing european airports. he s with us from london, and duncan, what s the first thing you wanted to know when you heard the news today? what s the first thing you would look for and at? well, the first thing that sprung to mind when i heard about this was, you know, who are these guys? and how have they struggled to track them down, even though they obviously have a handle on some of the members of this cell? they re having made arrests on friday, and an appeal yesterday for further members of the cell. so the real questions were, you know, what kind of explosives. what kind of communications, what kind of cell are we talking about here? and just how large is it that they have been able to slip under the radar even with so much concentration on trying to track them down since the paris attacks last november. and we know now that these guys have perfected the making of quite a potent form of explosives called tatp that they have developed detonators to set off the devices and they have been able to communicate through encrypted devices and burner phones that make them incredibly difficult to track down. but also, that they have a very large support network. there have been dozens of arrests across europe, which mean that there are serious concerns about just how many people have been influenced by this group that grew up in a suburb of brussels. and duncan, don t you worry that this was carried out with all without all of that much effort? well, it might appear that way. but making the explosives and making the bombs does take some effort. but the point is that they were obviously ready and primed to go, so when abdeslam, one of the key logistics guys was arrested in brussels on friday, they were able within a few days and knowing that the authorities may well be coming after them next, to then launch these attacks o significant transport hubs. and i think we have been seeing larger and larger terrorist cells or guys influenced by the terrorists traveling out to syria. far larger than we re used to seeing in the al qaeda days. and that s not just the cell in brussels, but we have seen elsewhere in europe as well and in the uk as well. i guess that s what i meant, and you obviously concur that this was in effect in response to his apprehension? well, we can t be for certain. we can t be certain about that, brian, but i think, you know, it s got to be an assumption. when you put out a public appeal like that, as they did yesterday, for one of these individuals whose dna had been found on the explosive devices, and in the properties, then you ve got to be concerned that that individual might decide that the best thing for him to do is to launch a pre-emptive attack. duncan, thank you very much for being with us. security expert and analyst. duncan gardham. while we wait for president obama in havana, and again, he will devote the top of his remarks and what is otherwise billed as a speech to the cuban people, he ll devote the top of this remarks to this tragedy in belgium. let s talk to the governor of ohio, and gop presidential candidate john kasich. he joins us by telephone. governor, we ve been talking tan gentally about the race for president all morning, meaning this is going to necessarily splash up against the debate we re having in this country, and let s hope, perhaps, it makes us serious up the debate a little bit. well, brian, it certainly shows that we have to have somebody who is going to lead this country, who is not going to need on the job training. look, i mean, the challenge here is we clearly have big gaps in for the west, at least, when it comes to counterintelligence. i would hope what the president would do, brian, and perhaps they are, is i think he ought to return home. he ought to work with the heads of state around the world. they ought to assemble teams and they need to examine these vulnerabilities we have. because without effective human intelligence, without coordination and cooperation among all the civilized nations, we have these gaps and the gaps get exploited by these people who are intent on killing civilized people. governor, it was a little chilling to hear the belgian ambassador to the united states talk about what their house-to-house searches had yielded, the names they came up with, the heavy weapons they discovered. it is i m afraid there are some staggering numbers that the free world are up against in europe. well, you know, with this migrant crisis, and the ability of people to pour across the border, and we don t know exactly, at this point, who these folks are or where they came from, but the radicalization of people in the radicalization of people in the islamic community is obviously one the greatest threat we have today. and so the only way to deal with this is the way we deal with this in the united states. that is the issue of counterterrorism. it doesn t mean you re going to catch everybody, but it means that you have a better chance of being able to disrupt these operations. and in addition, i think it means that we ve got to act quickly against isis. both in the air and on the ground, with a coalition of not only people from the west but our arab friends in the middle east. i think it s two-fold. one, we have to deal with that problem, and secondly, that crisis, and take care of it, and secondly, begin to develop the better counterintelligence we need to disrupt these things. a few moments before the president begins his remarks, governor. how would your stance toward the muslim world differ from the well chronicled stance that your competitor, mr. trump, has taken? well, look. i think we have taken a pause, and i have asked for a pause in terms of the number of syrian refugees to come in because we don t know if we can properly vet them. but this war is a war against radical islam. everyone who is a muslim is not connected, obviously. the vast, vast majority of them are peaceful people just practicing their religion. what we don t want to do is to label an entire religion as radical as at war against the west. it s simply not true. and frankly, we re going to need their cooperation as well. those who want to fight against the radical islam, that we need to pull them into this as well, because, you know, take the egyptians. they hang, in some respects, by a thread against those radicals that would like to destroy their government. so cooperation is important among all nations in the civilized world. i talked about that yesterday at the aipac conference, about the fact we need to strengthen these relationships with people who have our shared values. we carried your speech and all of the aipac speeches live on our air last night. governor john kasich of ohio, thank you, sir, very much for joining us by telephone today. thank you, and good luck, brian, to you. thank you, governor. you, too. governor kasich, as you heard, taking time from the campaign trail, as we have been saying all morning long, this will no doubt be among today s topics out there, and we re going to hear from the president. you may have noticed in the corner of the screen, the live picture of this venue in havana, the president s aide came out with his remarks. the seal has been placed on the front of the podium there. and against the flags of cuba and the united states, we should be hearing and seeing the president shortly. president castro has taken his place in his seat. his entrance was applauded by everybody. they turned around and gave him a standing ovation. the president has further travels to argentina. we learned from andrea mitchell this morning. but this is a big part of his schedule there. the once unheard of live address by an american president. and here he is. thank you. thank you so much. thank you very much. to president castro, the people of cuba, thank you so much for the warm welcome that i have received, that my family has received, and that our delegation has received. it is an extraordinary honor to be here today. before i begin, please indulge me. i want to comment on the terrorist attacks that have taken place in brussels. the thoughts and prayers of the american people are with the people of belgium. and we stand in solidarity with them uncondemning these outrageous attacks against innocent people. we will do whatever is necessary to support our friend and ally, belgium, in bringing to justice those who are responsible. and this is yet another reminder that the world must unite. we must be together, regardless of nationality, or race, or faith, in fighting against the scourge of terrorism. we can and we will defeat those who threaten the safety and security of people all around the world. to the government and the people of cuba, i want to thank you for the kindness that you have shown to me and michelle, malia, sasha, my mother-in-law, marion. [ speaking spanish ] in his most famous poem, jose marti made this offering of friendship and peace to both his friend and his enemy. today, as the president of the united states of america, i offer the cuban people e el saludo de pas. havana is only 90 miles from florida. but to get here, we had to travel a great distance. over barriers of history and ideology, barriers of pain and separation. the blue waters beneath air force one once carried american battleships to this island. to liberate but also to exert control over cuba. those waters also carried generations of cuban revolutionaries to the united states where they built support for their cause. and that short distance has been crossed by hundreds of thousands of cuban exiles. on planes, in makeshift rafts, who came to america in pursuit of freedom and opportunity, sometimes leaving behind everything they owned and every person that they loved. like so many people in both of our countries, my lifetime has spanned a time of isolation between us. the cuban revolution took place the same year that my father came to the united states from kenya. the bay of pigs took place the year that i was born. the next year, the entire world held its breath watching our two countries as humanity came as close as we ever have to the horror of nuclear war. as the decades rolled by, our government settled into a seemingly endless confrontation, fighting battles through proxies. in a world that remade itself time and again, one constant was the conflict between the united states and cuba. i have come here to bury the last remnant of the cold war in the americas. i have come here to extend the hand of friendship to the cuban people. i want to be clear. the differences between our governments over these many years are real, and they are important. i m sure president castro would say the same thing. i know because i have heard him address those differences at length. but before i discuss those issues, we also need to recognize how much we share. because in many ways, the united states and cuba are like two brothers who have been estranged for many years. even as we share the same blood. we both live in a new world, colonized by europeans. cuba, like the united states, was built in part by slaves brought here from africa. like the united states, the cuban people can trace their heritage to both slaves and slave owners. we have welcomed both, immigrants who came a great distance to start new lives in the americas. over the years, our cultured have blended together. dr. carlos finle s work in coupa paved the way for many doctors in cuba, including walter reed, who drew on his work to help combat yellow fever. just as marti wrote some of his most famous words in new york, earnest hemingway made his home in cuba and found inspiration in the waters of these shores. we share a national pastime. and later today, our players will compete on the same havana field that jackie robinson played on before he made his major league debut. and it is said that our greatest boxer, muhammad ali, once paid tribute to a cuban he would never fight, saying he would only be able to reach a draw with the great cuban. so even as our governments became adversaries, our people continued to share these common passions. particularly as so many cubans came to america. in miami, or havana, you can find places to dance the cha-cha-cha or the salsa, and eat ropa vieja. they have sung along with sell yeah cruz or gloria estefan and listen to now pit bull. millions of our people share a common religion. a faith that i paid tribute to at the shrine of our lady of charity in miami. a peace that cum cubans find. for all of our differences, the cuban and american people share a common values in their own lives. a sense of patriotism and a sense of pride. a lot of pride. a profound love of family, a passion for our children, a commitment to their education. and that s why i believe our grandchildren will look back on this period of isolation as an aberration. as just one chapter in a longer story of family and of friendship. but we cannot and should not ignore the very real differences we have about how we organize our governments, our economies, and our societies. cuba has a one-party system. the united states is a multi-party democracy. cuba has a socialist economic model. the united states is an open market. cuba has emphasized the role and rights of the state. the united states is founded upon the rights of the individual. despite these differences, on december 17th, 2014, president castro and i announced that the united states and cuba would begin a process to normalize relations between our countries. since then, we have established diplomatic relations and opened embassies. we have begun initiatives to cooperate on health and our agriculture. education and law enforcement. we ve reached agreements to restore direct flights and mail service. we have expanded commercial ties and increased the capacity of americans to travel and do business in cuba. and these changes have been welcomed. even though there are still opponents to these policies. still, many people on both sides of this debate have asked, why now? why now? there is one simple answer. what the united states was doing was not working. we have to have the courage to acknowledge that truth. a policy of isolation designed for the cold war made little sense in the 21st century. the embargo was only hurting the cuban people instead of helping them. and i have always believed in what martin luther king jr. called the fierce urgency of now. we should not fear change. we should embrace it. that leaves me to a bigger and more important reason for these changes. i believe in the cuban people. this is not just a policy of normalizing relations with the cuban government. the united states of america is normalizing relations with the cuban people. and today i want to share with you my vision of what our future can be. i want the cuban people, especially the young people, to understand why i believe that you should look to the future with hope, not the false promise which insists that things are better than they really are. or the blind optimism that says all your problems can go away tomorrow. hope that is rooted in the future that you can choose, and that you can shape, and that you can build for your country. i m hopeful because i believe that the cuban people are as innovative as any people in the world. in a global economy, powered by ideas and information, a country s greatest asset is its people. and the united states, we have a clear monument to what the cuban people can build. it s called miami. here in havana, we see that same tale talent. in cooperatives, in old cars that still run. [ speaking spanish ] cuba has an extraordinary resource, a system of education which values every boy and every girl. and in recent years, the cuban government has begun to open up to the world and to open up more space for that talent to 35. in just a few years, we have seen how they can succeed while sustaining a distinctly cuban spirit. being self-employed is not about becoming more like america. it s about being yourself. look at sandra, who chose to start a small business. cuban, she said, can innovate and adapt without losing our identity. our secret is not in copying or imitating but simply being ourselves. look at papito, a barber whose success allowed him to improve conditions in his neighborhood. i realize i m not going to solve all the world s problems, he said, but if i can solve problems in the little piece of the world where i live, it can ripple across havana. that s where hope begins. with the ability to earn your own living, and to build something you can be proud of. that s why our policies focus on supporting cubans instead of hurting them. that s why we got rid of limits on remittances so ordinary cubans have more resources. that s why we re encouraging travel, which will build bridges between our people, and bring more revenue to those cuban small businesses. that s why we have opened up space for commerce and exchanges, so that americans and cubans can work together to find cures for diseases and create jobs and open the door to more opportunity for the cuban people. as president of the united states, i have called on our congress to lift the embargo. [ applause ] it is an out dated burden on th cuban people. it s a burden on the americans who want to work and do business or invest here in cubcuba. it s time to lift the embargo. but even if we lifted the embargo tomorrow, cubans would not realize their potential without continued change here in cuba. it should be easier to open a business here in cuba. a worker should be able to get a job directly with companies who invest here in cuba. two currencies shouldn t separate the type of salaries cubans can earn. the internet should be available across the island so that cubans can connect to the wider world. and to one of the greatest engines of growth in human history. there s no limitation from the united states on the ability of cuba to take these steps. it s up to you. i can tell you as a friend that sustainable prosperity in the 21st century depends on education, health care, and environmental protection. but it also depends on the free and open exchange of ideas. if you can t access information online, if you cannot be exposed to different points of view, you will not reach your full potential. and over time, the youth will lose hope. i know these issues are sensitive, especially coming from an american president. before 1959, some americans saw cuba as something to exploit. ignored poverty, enabled corruption. and since 1959, we have been shadow boxers in this battle of geo politics and personalities. i know the history, but i refuse to be trapped by it. i have made it clear that the united states has neither the capacity nor the intention to impose change on cuba. what changes come will depend upon the cuban people. we will not impose our political or economic system on you. we recognize that every country, every people, must chart its own course and shape its own model. but having removed the shadow of history from our relationship, i must speak honestly about the things i believe, the things that we as americans believe. as marti said, liberty is the right of every man to be honest. to think and to speak without hypocrisy. so let me tell you what i believe. i can t force you to agree. but you should know what i think. i believe that every person should be equal under the law. every child deserves the dignity that comes with education and health care and food on the table and a roof over their heads. i believe citizens should be free to speak their mind without fear. to organize and to criticize their government and to protest peacefully. and that the rule of law should not include arbitrary detentions of people who exercise those rights. i believe that every person should have the freedom to practice their faith peacefully and publicly. and yes, i believe voters should be able to choose their governments in free and democratic elections. not everybody agrees with me on this. not everybody agrees with the american people on this, but i believe those human rights are universal. i believe they are the rights of the american people, the cuban people, and people around the world. there s no secret that our governments disagree on many of these issues. i have had frank conversations with president castro. for many years, he has pointed out the flaws in the american system. economic inequality, the death penalty, racial discrimination, wars abroad. that s just a sample. he has a much longer list. but here s what the cuban people need to understand. i welcome this open debate and dialogue. it s good. it s healthy. i m not afraid of it. we do have too much money in american politics. but in america, it s still possible for somebody like me, a child who was raised by a single mom, a child of mixed race, who did not have a lot of money, to pursue and achieve the highest office in the land. that s what s possible in america. we do have challenges with racial bias in our communities and our criminal justice system and our society. the legacy of slavery and segregation. but the fact that we have open debates within america s own democracy is what allows us to get better. in 1959, the year that my father moved to america, it was illegal for him to marry my mother, who was white, in many american states. when i first started school, we were still struggling to desegregate schools across the american south. but people organized. they protested. they debated these issues. they challenged government officials. and because of those protests and because of those debates, and because of popular mobilization, i m able to stand here today as an african-american and as president of the united states. that was because of the freedoms that were afforded in the united states. that we were able to bring about change. i m not saying this is easy. there are still enormous problems in our society. but democracy is the way that we solve them. that s how we got health care for more of our people. that s how we made enormous gains in women s rights and gay rights. it s how we address the inequality that concentrates so much wealth at the top of our society, because workers can organize, and ordinary people have a voice. american democracy has given our people the opportunity to pursue their dreams and enjoy a high standard of living. now, there s still some tough fights. it isn t always pretty, the process of democracy. it s often frustrating. you can see that in the election going on back home. but just stop and consider this fact about the american campaign that s taking place right now. you had two cuban americans in the republican party running against the legacy of a black man who is president while arguing they re the best person to beat the democratic nominee who will either be a woman or a democratic socialist. who would have believed that back in 1959? that s a measure of our progress as a democracy. so here s my message to the cuban government and the cuban people. the ideals that are the starting point for every revolution, america s revolution, cuba s revolution, the liberation movements around the world, those ideals find their truest expression, i believe, in democracy. not because american democracy is perfect, but precisely because we re not. and we, like every country, need the space that democracy gives us to change. it gives individuals the capacity to be catalysts, to think in new ways. and to reimagine how our society should be. and to make them better. and there s already an evolution taking place inside of cuba. a generational change. many suggested i come here and ask the people of cuba to tear something down. but i m appealing to the young people of cuba who will lift something up, build something new. [ speaking spanish ] and to president castro who i appreciate being here today, i want you to know, i believe my visit here demonstrates you do not need to fear a threat from the united states. and given your commitment to cuba s sovereignty, i m also confident you need not fear the different voices of the cuban people and their capacity to speak and assemble and vote for their leaders. in fact, i m hopeful for the future because i trust that the cuban people will make the right decisions. as you do, i m also confident that cuba can continue to play an important role in the hemisphere and around the globe. and my hope is that you can do so as a partner with the united states. we ve played very different roles in the world. but no one should deny the service that thousands of cuban doctors have delivered for the poor and suffering. [ applause ] last year, american health care workers and the u.s. military worked side-by-side with cubans to save lives and stamp out ebola in west africa. i believe that we should continue that kind of cooperation in other countries. we have been on the different side of so many conflicts in the americas, but today, americans and cubans are sitting together at the negotiating table and we are helping the colombian people help resolve a civil war that has dragged on for decades. that kind of cooperation is good for everybody. it gives everyone in this hemisphere hope. we took different journeys to our support for the people of south africa in ending apartheid, but president castro and i could both be there in johannesburg to pay legatribute the great legacy of nelson mandela. and in examining his life, and his wurbdz, i m sure we both realized we have more work to do to promote equality in our own countries. to reduce discrimination based on race in our own countries. and in cuba, we want our engagement to help lift up the cubans who are of african desent, who have proved there s nothing they cannot achieve when given the chance. we have been a part of different blocks of nations in the hem fear, and we will continue to have profound differences on how to promote peace, security, opportunity, and human rights. but as we normalize our relations, i believe it can help foster a greater sense of unity in the americas. from the beginning of my time in office, i have urged the people of the americas to leave behind the idealogical battles of the past. we are in a new era. i know that many of the issues that i have talked about lack the drama of the past, and i know that part of cuba s identity is its pride in being a small island nation that could stand up for its rights and shake the world. but i also know that cuba will always stand out because of the talent, hard work, and pride of the cuban people. that s your strength. cuba doesn t have to be defined by being against the united states any more than the united states should be defined by being against cuba. and i m hopeful for the future because of the reconciliation that s taking place among the cuban people. you know, i know that for some cubans on the island, there may be a sense that those who left somehow supported the old order in cuba. i m sure there s a narrative that lingers here, which suggests that cuban exiles ignored the problems of pre-revolutionary cuba and rejected the struggle to build a new future. but i can tell you today that so many cuban exiles carry a memory of painful and sometimes violent separation. they love cuba. a part of them still considers this their true home. that s why their passion is so strong. that s why their heartache is so great. and for the cuban-american community i have come to know and respect, this is not just about politics. this is about family. the memory of a home that was lost. the desire to rebuild a broken bond. the hope for a better future, the hope for a return and reconciliation. for all of the politics, people are people and cubans are cubans. and i have come here, i have traveled this distance on a bridge that was built by cubans on both sides of the florida straits. i first got to know the talent and passion of the cuban people in america. and i know how they have suffered more than the pain of exile. they also know what it s like to be an outsider and to struggle and work harder to make sure their children can reach higher in america. so the reconciliation of the cuban people, the children and grandchildren of revolution and the children and grandchildren of exile, that is fundamental to cuba s future. you see it in gloria gonzalez, who traveled here in 2013 for the first time after 61 years of separation. and was met by her sister. you recognize me, but i didn t recognize you, gloria said after she embraced her sibling. imagine that after 61 years. you see it in melinda lopez, who came to her family s old home. as she was walking the streets, an elderly woman recognized her as her mother s daughter. and began to cry. she took her into her home and showed her a pile of photos that included melinda s baby picture, which her mother had sent 50 years ago. melinda later said so many of us are now getting so much back. you see it in christian miguel, a young man who became the first of his family to travel here after 50 years. and meeting relatives for the first time, he said, i realized that family is family no matter the distance between us. sometimes the most important changes start in small places. the tides of history can leave people in conflict and exile and poverty. it takes time for those circumstances to change, but the recognition of a common humanity, the reconciliation of people bound by flood and a belief in one another, that s where progress begins. understanding and listening and forgiveness. and if the cuban people face the future together, it will be more likely that the young people of today will be able to live with dignity and achieve their dreams right here in cuba. the history of the united states and cuba encompass revolution and conflict, struggle and sacrifice, retribution and now reconciliation. it is time now for us to leave the past behind. it is time for us to look forward to the future together. and it won t be easy, and there will be setbacks. it will take time. but my time here in cuba renews my hope and my confidence in what the cuban people will do. we can make this journey as friends and as neighbors. and as family. together. thank you. the president of the united states concluding his speech live to an audience in havana, cuba. and for broadcasts in cuba as well. as history making as the rest of the visit, there is president castro up in the first balcony. sadly, for the rest of the world, it s the scene you have been seeing on the left-hand side of your screen that lends this day the kind of a split-screen imagery, the terrorist attack. you see the latest death toll, 31 in brussels. happened in the middle of the night, u.s. time. start of the work day in brussels. while we ve been covering the president s speech, our folks have been continuing their reporting, among them, pete williams and tom costello. we ll begin with our justice correspondent pete williams in our washington bureau. pete. brian, a couple things about this. first of all, their initial reports suggest that the bomb at the airport was two separate devices. the belgian ambassador has told reporters here in the u.s., the belgian ambassador to the u.s. has told reporters here that the explosion at the airport involved a package or possibly a suitcase, and then separately, a suicide bomber. we know that there were two bomb attacks in the airport. and that s the initial word. whether both were set off by someone or whether one person set off both devices, that s beyond what we know. but that s the early word on the explosion at the airport. we haven t heard anything further about the nature of the explosion on the underground train, the metro. in terms of the u.s. response here, we ve seen now as the hours play along here, a number of american cities aggressively step up security, not surprisingly, the most visible as it usually is in these things is in new york. in the new york/new jersey area. port authority police, new york city police, with many more visible patrols on commuter trains, subways, at the airport, and also at bridges and tunnels that s come into the new york city area. but also much more visible security of armed police on the metro in washington, at the airports here, also in chicago and los angeles and miami. amtrak says it has a robust security out today. so that s the kind of thing that you re seeing in the u.s. all these decisions made by local authorities. not at the direction of the federal government, because in the u.s., all of these facilities are in the hands of local officials. the federal responsibility, the department of transportation, or rather the homeland security administration, that begins at the secure check-in point well into the airport. but at the kind of airport areas that were attacked, the kind of subway that was attacked, those are all in the security is all in the hands of local officials. we don t know of any directive from the federal government coming out today telling them to do more, because there isn t any intelligence that any of the facilities in the u.s. are under any kind of revised threat. so this is a matter of simply the federal officials passing along to local authorities what they re learning from their counterparts in europe. frankly, brian, a lot of the messages we have seen are passing along what has been publicly reported, telling them the nature of the attacks, what kind of injuries, where they were placed, how they believe the devices were placed and so on. all right, pete williams with the update on his front. as justice correspondent. over to aviation we go, and tom costello. tom. got a couple moving pieces here. to begin with, part of my dual role as the moment is to also monitor flemish television, thanks to a wife who speaks fluent flemish. flemish television is reporting that investigators believe that the explosives used in this device may be tatp. which is a common type of explosive that they believe may have also been used in the attacks in paris. tatp is what they are at the moment thinking may be a prime explosive suspect. they are looking now for a man last seen wearing a white s sweater or a white overcoat of some sort. they believe he may have been involved in the attack at the airport in brussels, and he may have gotten away. they re still working on that and trying to identify him. and they have also put out an apbf you will, of sorts, to all of the media in belgium, asking them to refrain from reporting on police tactics, movements, or other activities including their presence. there are multiple activities under way in belgium. they re asking for the media not to report on where the police are at any given moment because of the terror emergency. the mall, which is a building that houses a european union headquarters and complex down in downtown brussels, has been evacuated. as you would expect, police forensics teams are on the scene along with, they have a unique situation in belgium and france in which the prosecutor s office is also immediately involved in an investigation. investigators from both offices are on the ground at the metro station at maelbeek as well as at the brussels airport. speaking of which, the brussels airport just put out a note saying it s not at all clear when they will reopen because of the extensive damage and the forensics investigation that is under way. you know, initially, within i would say a couple hours of the attacks this morning, somebody suggested they reopen in the morning. clearly, that s not going to happen. anybody who is familiar with that airport knows it has been significantly damaged. an areas of it utterly destroyed. i think it would be hard for them to reopen this week at the earliest. but we ll see how that plays out. and there is also this, i wanted to pass along, the brussels fire service, which houses both fire and ems in brussels, reports 212 wounded and 30 critical. and we have heard from several doctors reporting significant shrapnel wounts including nails and some amputations as well. tom, for our viewers, repeat the significance of the explosive, if confirmed? tatp is is pete still online? pete, are you still online with us? i am here. i would ask pete to weigh in because he has the expertise. pete, the tatp connection. tatp, i don t think, is going to say a lot, because it is probably the most commonly used explosive by terrorists. it s become the staple of suicide bombers in the middle east. it has long been used by jihadists inspired terrorist. it was what was in richard reid s shoe bomb. of more immediate interest is tatp was thought to be used in the paris attacks last year, and belgian authorities have said in their raids, in the police raids in the last couple weeks in brussels, they had found traces or quantities of tatp in the residences of some of those people they have been arresting. so it certainly is consistent with the paris attacks, with the people they were going after in brussels, and elsewhere throughout france and belgium, but on the other hand, it s so commonly used that i don t think it s going to narrow things down any. okay. so it wouldn t be a surprise to you, pete, if we if the forensics and chemical testing came back that it was in fact tatp? to the contrary, brian, i would say it would be a surprise if it isn t. it s just how common it is now. it could be, you mentioned the forensic evidence. it could be there are different formulas and that will tell them something, but i think the most useful thing will be if they in fact did find an unexploded device, as had been earlier reported but not confirmed. that the key thing. they ll look at how the

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police officers, you are doing a disservice to the cause. also today we are marying from the family of one of the thursday night s victim. i spoke to the mother and sister of officer patrick samaripa killed in the shooting. we are just normal every day people. patrick s just a little kid from the neighborhood. things like this don t happen to people like us. this is a wonderful family and much more from that interview in a few minutes. and how does the city of dallas move forward. we ll ask the city s mayor make rawlings when he joins us live in a few minutes. here in dallas as the investigation continues into thursday s mass shooting, we are learning more details about the shooter s disturbing behavior leading up to and during that shooting. nbc s tammy lietd ner joins me now in dallas and it is almost unbelievable in adding horror on to horror. the details come oulgt today are really astounding and one of the big things is michael johnson wrote in his own blood the initials r.b. in the parking garage. investigates are trying to figure this pertinent to the shooting. police chief earlier today described michael johnson as delusional. the entire time he was involved in the standoff he was taunting the police officers. and singing and laughing at them. and at a point where they didn t think the negotiations could go any further that is when they sent in the robot with the explosive device. and he really thought that michael johnson wanted to kill other people. the big question is was there anybody else involved? let s listen to what the police chief had to say. we still haven t ruled out, jay, whether or not others were complicit. and just the way we do things. we want to make sure we follow every lead and make sure we don t miss any pieces of evidence that might lead to other things that we don t know yet. and we are just two blocks from the shooting. but as we ve talked about, most of downtown is completely closed off and that is because investigators are really still investigating. we re told there are about 75 fbi agents that are collecting evidence. and they probably will be collecting throughout the week. but they are hoping to open a few of the blocks within the next few days. and one of the things we ve both seen is the outpouring at dallas police headquarters and people continue to come. i drove by there this morning. the crowd was huge. the memorial it just keeps growing. there were police cars when they started and you can t see them anymore at all. they are completely covered in notes of love and flowers and it really is a moving tribute. thank you. contrast that to the hate behind this devastating shooting. and contrast it to the love of a family. the family of dallas police officer 32-year-old patrick samaripa. a navy officer. now his family is grieving over a life ended much too soon. i said down with his family and how they learned of patrick s death and also about his love of family, of baseball and of life. everything. and then like she said every time something was going on, you know, the news. and i d check to see if he was working or not. and people would text me. send messages. patrick working tonight? patrick there? is he okay? and i d call him or text him and are you okay? and he would respond. he would always respond back. and let us know that he was okay. and thursday night he didn t. he wasn t responding or anything. not texting back. and i just figured it was because he s really busy with everything going on and how crazy it was down there. and then when i saw that four officers had been shot, i never, never imagined that he was one of them. they had breaking news that things started going down south in the rallies in dallas so we were watching it. and i don t know, i just got this sick feeling. there was so many police officers down there. so many people. one of my friends she started messaging me. and she was like, is patrick okay? her husband works for dallas. s okay, he s working. and i was panicking, i haven t heard from my brother. and i call my mom, just have your phone near you please. i don t know i just have this sick feeling. you just never know. she was like yeah carlos already called me. i will milt brother. my baby brother. and i almost feel like i jinxed it. because then like 30 minutes later she called me. and patrick was in a situation and they don t need the details and we need to get there. so i just tried to stay calm thinking that maybe he was just injured or scraped his knee or fell off a bike or something stupid. never did i think and i just wondered if they got the wrong person. because anybody but patrick. are you sure it was him? and then they took us to see him and it was him. what s most important for you that you want people to know about patrick and about what you ve lost? that my niece, she ll never know who her father was. she ll only know by who people are telling her. she ll never know him personally and what a great father he would have been for her. she looks just like him. so that makes gonna make it, you know, tougher for us. she was the light of his life. his reason for living. for doing and working as hard as he worked and he worked hard. how you doing? umm, i m doing. but it s still hard to grasp. it is so it is not real. but it is gonna be real. it s hard to put into words. it is real hard. can you wrap your heads around this senselessness? no. no. i can t. because it is just like we were just normal every day people. patrick s just a little kid from the neighborhood. things like this don t happen to people like us. i don t know who they happen to. but it is just can barely fathom that he did what he did. because he s just my little brother. and then just like it s a dream. a bad dream. is it possible to say what you will miss the most? no. just him, in general. because like you said later, the reality is going to hit in that i just can t call him because i need something or because i just want to talk to him. how about you, mom? sounds like he took good care of you. oh that he did. he worried about me a lot. and he made sure that i was okay all the time. no matter what i needed or, you know, if i needed him, he was there. always. and bringing me the baby. mom, i ve got go to work early. can you watch the baby? sure. bring her too me. he d come in with that backpack and bring the baby. be careful, please be careful mijo. and he d say i love you. i m gonna be okay. he was close to your children try. yeah he was. what two you tell them? well my oldest one raquel, she is very devastated, very devastated because she understands what s happening. my son shaun, she was devastated when we told him. like in shock. but i don t think he understands yet. and i don t think he s gonna understand until he sees my brother and realizes that this is a saying goodbye for now. he s gonna be he s gonna be very upstream when et when he s brother like that. because he looked unto my brother. did day like seeing him in his uniform? oh they loved it. patrick would go to career day for them. at their school. and they were super proud of him. do you feel that the country is mourning with you? i mean i don t know, i guess they are. it looks like they are. but like i said it is just so unreal that him just being my brother, my little brother, a small little boy, it is so it is so weird to think that the country is mourning him. i don t know if that makes sense. we ll have more of my interview with officer zamarripa s mother and sister in a bit but now i m joined by dallas mayor mike roawlings. you have made met the family. they are just wonderful people and that question of why did this happen? are we any closer to having a answer? i think searching the sole takes a while and i think that is what we have do as the country and as a city. they represent the best of america. it was all about family. this city is all about family and that family has been torn apart right now. so it is a question i ve been asking, you know, porque why? why is is this going on. and i think there are a lot of reasons for it and it is going to take us a while to sort it it. big sociological reasons and also what we re learning about the gunman, he was delusional and he had hate. and the police chief said today it could have been worse. that maybe he had bigger plans to destroy and kill even more. are you convinced that he was alone? that this city is as safe as it can be given the circumstances? i believe the city as safe as it could be. woe don t know whether he was acting a alone or not. but going to the root cause of this first of all you have done a great job over the days telling the story. and the johnson was here and she talked about mental health and the root cause of so many of these have to do with mental health whether posttraumatic stress disorder or some other situation and these folks are not mentally stable and we ve got to figure that out as well. everyone it seems is mourning and yesterday i spoke with a close friend of an officer who i believe you had a chance encounter with. lauren aarons and i want to play a little bit of that sound of his friend for you. please. he was one of those guys and just to keep it short. the minute i knew he had what it he was passed his training. so we re sitting in the bushes believe it or not. we re conducting surveillance on these drug dealers. and this is going to be his first raid where we are going to be leading the charge him and i and i tell him, hey. you stick with me. you don t run anywhere. you stand behind me and i m leading the charge and, you know, just stayed by my side. and it s dark out there and he kind of just taps him on the shoulder and goes i got your back brother. i ll take a bullet for you. and i knew at that moment he had what it took to be a good officer. i ll take a bullet for you. yeah. this guy was a cop s cop. he really was. you said that when you had that conversation with him he made you think. he did. about what? how? how he treated our police. we were talking about policy issue. we were talking about morale. we were talking about pensions. we were talking about pay. stuff that s gritty. but it makes you sit back and say, how much do we value our police? and i think it is a question that every city s got think about. we expect so much of them. especially in the presence of iphones and camera all over the place. their role has got to be better. and i think teachers and police officers are too oft forgotten in the country. when his mom stopped me and said promise to say one thing. tell people when they see a police officer, say thank you. we often do that to members of the military. i ll say it. thank you for your service. we don t do it. and you do wonder how the perception of police since we re so conflicted after what we saw in baton rouge and st. paul and then the horror of what happened here. how s your force doing? what s the overall message do you think for police officers around the country? well our force is strong. but our force is heartbreaken. they have been working long hours. they have a long week to go. we re right in the middle of the second quarter on this thing. because we ve got a lot of grieving to do. but ultimately they are proud. they are strong and they love their jobs. we have got to as a country be able to figure out how to hold people accountable but root for them at the same time. patrick s sister was going to pick up his uniform at the cleaners. there will be five funerals this week and the president has cut short his trip and he s coming at your invitation here. what can he do for your city and for the country? what do you think we need to hear? well first of all i want the president to say thank you. thank you to officers not only in dallas but other places. second, is to create a bipartisan bi-ideology approach to unifying the country. and he s a good unifier and i hope that is the message that he sends. and then just help us in the mourning process. mourning is a healthy thing. we ve got to go through that to pull through it. so let s not hurry that. let s appreciate it and honor that mourning process. i just want to say that from the very beginning you and your police chief have been so good and helpful and honest and open. and we appreciate it. and our sympathies to the city and to you and for all that this nation is mourning. mayor rawlings, thank you so much. appreciate your coming in. thank you. i think we are going to get through this. thank you. thanks. up next more of my interview with officer zamarripa s mother and sister. plus what pastors and other religious leaders here in dallas are telling their congregations to help heal this city. we ll be right back. using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the fruit. veggies. and herbs needed to create a pop-up pick-your-own juice bar in the middle of the city, so now everyone knows. we have some of the freshest juice in town. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink see what the power of points can do for your business. see what the power of points can do for your business. take on the unexpected with a car that could stop for you. nissan safety shield technologies, available in the altima, sentra and maxima. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. people from all over coming together to pay their respects and join together to grieve. and as the community gathers to mourn, community leaders are helping with the struggle to move forward. one of them reverend george mason who joins me now. thank you so much for coming. you know this city. you know it s people. you have been at that church since 1989. right. yes. as a senior pastor. how was the congregation this morning? eager to be there. i think everyone was wanting to lean on each other. how we might process our grief and mourn and offer it back to god and turn it back to one another. how to you begin to help people try to explain the inspeckable or how do you comfort the inconsolable. well you don t do it by yourself. you have a deep sense that god is present with you in the midst of suffering and as you gather in god s name you belief god is with you and brings peace. do you see as you watch the congregation gather that there is strength in numbers essentially. that that coming together, whether it is in a church. whether it is at the memorial, whether wherever it is. i see people strangers meeting each other and hugging on the street. i think you do. i think what happens then is you are acknowledging how much a part of each other s lives we are. that it is possible for us to at times to live our lives away from each other. but in times like these we recognize how much of a network of mutuallity as martin luther king said we live in. and how quickly that can be awakened by an event of evil like this that happens in a flash. and there is this cumulative feeling of i don t know if despair is too strong a word but we ve lived through as the country orlando before this and, you know, in california and san bernardino before that be&we watched what happened in paris and in brussels. and there is this cumulative effect i think. and then you add to it what happened to young black men in, you know, two of the great cities, st. paul and baton rouge. and do you worry about how that effects us as a people? well how we learn to deal with it. and somebody tad so me. i thought it was concerning. she said do you think that we re just going to become immune to the? no i really don t. i think we may be periodically exhausted by it but i don t think we re going to be immune to it. because what underlies all of this is the kind of slow and steady love that we do have for one another that when things like this happen on occasion, it shocks us. and it should shock us. because evil has a way of being spectacular in the moment. but it is only spectacular because the every dayness of our relationships to one another are what sustain us and what carry us forward. and we have to keep returning to that and remembering that that is so. and that this is not characteristic of our life together. it is actually sensational and exceptional. i learned very vividly when i was in newtown after the horrible shooting there. and i guess i had never been conscious enough of it before. how much do you who are in the religious community take on in times like this? how are you doing? considering that my dad died also and we re in the middle of a lot of grief. oh my gosh i m so sorry. one of the things that happens though again we realize that as john dunn the great poet said every man s death diminishes me. so because i am a part of mankind. the truth is we all recognize that what happens to one person directly again as dr. king said effects everyone indirectly. i think we may be more and more in a time where it effects us directly. and so we all bear a sense of the burden of humanity right now. that is not a bad thing to realize. because it might give us greater sympathy. white persons for black and black for white and for police officers. as we sense our common humanity in the midst of this grief. what a tribute to you and to your congregation that in the midst of your personal grief you are ministering this way. thank you research george mason. thank you. we are going to go live to baton rouge and st. paul where protests led to more than 200 hey, honey? 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(vo) purina dentalife. for life. in just a short time citizens of battle rouge are expected to take to the streets again for a rally and a march beginning at the local church and louisiana governor john belle edwards is expected to make a statement after briefing with law enforcement. this after a chaotic night including a prominent black lives matter activist were arrested. imagine everything that happened, tensions must be high there today. what do by expect to hear from the governor? reporter: well we expect to governor to touch not only on the events of the will last five days but on the last two nights where protesters have faced off against police in riot gear. they have also increased dramatically more than a hundred people arrested last night as they march near police headquarters. that is located about three miles from here. baton rouge police department just released some new information about this case. more information from there side. they say in addition to those arrests they also confiscated 8 firearms. they say one of their officers was injured he had several teeth knocked out from a something thrown from the crowd. and the original demonstration last night from city hall to the state capitol they said that was peaceful and they had no arrests but the rally afterwards near police headquarters that was organized by people from out of town and that is where they said more than 100 arrests took place and those eight firearms coug s confiscated. all the arrests charged with obstructing a highway as most of the people who were arrested last night. nbc s sarah dallof thank you. in the meantime in st. paul, minnesota governor mark date season condemning the violence seen there over night. his statement in part and i m quoting the occupation and shutting down of interstate 94 last night were unlawful and very dangerous. i urge everyone to remain calm and peaceful during this very difficult time. 102 people were arrested across two separate parts of the city last night. at one point pepper spray and smoke bombs were used to zpu disperse those people. police officers were hurt after protesters through rock, bottles, bricks and pieces of concrete. another city on edge this week. what do we know about the injured officers? and are there anymore protests planned. 21 of the officers were injured last night. throwing rock, bottles and even a fire work and a molotov cocktail. despite that the injuries were only minor for the 21 officers. but this is the first time we ve seen protests become violent here in minnesota. since philando castile was killed by police. and again this is the first time we ve seen it become violent. right now in front of the governor s mansion you can see again protesters. there was also a march a short time ago. this march was with children. they are saying who are we? kids. what do we want? peace. i spoke with one mother. i want my children to have a better future and not be worried about a if the police would harm them or if they are going to be harmed. i my husband i don t want to worry about him having to photo work. and i m just here there is a rally outside of the st. anthony police station, the department where one of the officers shot and killed castile. that rally has about 200 people right now and we are monitoring. also this afternoon governor dayton is meeting with the head of the local naacp no doubt discussing ways to quell these latest tensions. thanks blake. and up next we ll be joined by one of the organizers of thursday night s rally here in dallas, what he saw when the shots rang out. and as we go to break words from one of thursday night s victim whose survived. she was wounded protecting her son from some of the bullets she described solute of the horror she witnessed that night. i saw another officer i saw another officer get shot right there in front of me again. that was two. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it s time to plan for your family s future, we re here for you. we re legalzoom, and for over 10 years we ve helped families just like yours with wills and living trusts. so when you re ready, start with us. doing the right thing has never been easier. legalzoom. legal help is here. with toothpaste or plain water.an their dentures and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they re not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope, we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture, and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that s why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident s unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher, brighter denture every day. we re going show you another live look at the memorial that has sprung up at the dallas police headquarters. one of the relatives of fallen officer patrick zamarripa told me this morning she had been thinking about whether to go there but was worried it might be too hard. they do the family see the outpouring of support. here is more of my conversation just a few hours ago with patrick s mom and sister. she told me how much he meant to her. we ve always been the type of brothers and sisters to hug each other and let each other know that we loved each other. i m not trying to, like, discredit or anything. but i took really good care of my brothers. i him. i ironed his clothes. you know i cooked for them. i took really good care of my brother. i loved him so much. and patrick would help me. he was like, you know, like i said he was like the man in my life. i m proud of my brother and anywhere i went, people who know me, they knew that i was proud of my brother. and i never realized how much did you ever tell him that is this. yeah i told him. i told him. and i never realized how much i talked about him until, you know, like now that everybody s sending me messages or call iin. and i just never realized how much i talked about him in the past, about both of them. that is what everybody keeps saying. like we know how you used to talk about patrick and baby that is what i always called my baby brother. baby. we are just every day normal people. things like this don t happen to people like us. i don t know who they happen to but i just could barely fathom that he did what he did. because he s just my little brother. and then just like it s a dream. a bad dream. and joining me now is minister dominique alexander, president and founder of next generation action network. one of the organizers of thursday s protest here in dallas. it is obvious that for five families and for people who knew the victims and those who are injured, they are mourning. but for everyone who is here. they have been through a trauma. yes, ma am. yes, ma am. what are you hearing from the people who you know who were there as you were? well the community is mourning and this is just not for the police officers. there was over 2,000 police officers here that have protested time after time after time in dallas, texas and nothing like this have ever occurred. so it is very traumatic towards them and the situation to, you know, something that happened like that in their city. and we came out there to eliminate hate. we came out there to stand up against violence in america and not to have a situation like that and this incident happened. but, you know, we definitely need counseling for the protesters and as well as the community because the community is very traumatized. i ve heard from people who were there saying it was like being in a war zone. is that what you experienced? well it was you got all of these skyscrapers. so you never knew what angle and where the bullets were coming from. because everything was echoing off the buildings. it was a very traumatic situation. it was almost like being in a war zone because you didn t know where everything wiz coming from and police cars coming every and you didn t know what was going on. one second you got to move this way. this second you got to move that way. it was very traumatizing. so tonight you are bringing a lot of those people together. tell me what you o hope to accomplish. the problem is that this conversation has to keep on going on when the tension is not on dallas and we re trying to have a community conversation so we will not be reactive but proactive in the situation to make sure we address the problems that we have throughout the country and in particular in the city of dallas. what we have were veterans coming from our from military and things like that going through the problems. i saw many people blaming, you know, the protest asks black lives matter movement from mr. johnson s actions. and i if you want to be real direct and correct, mr. johnson was failed by our u.s. military. by allowing him to be back out in society without the proper mental health. well there are a lot of questions about mental health programs in this country. but what you do feel like you as a community organizer here and the people who have come out and are concerned? what can you do? what can you accomplish. there are some major policy reforms so our mayor and the city council here in dallas really have to open up a conversation and a dialogue about these issues. about the issues of guns and about the issues about police brutality. these issues that we have been trying to bring to the table for some time now. this is not a new issue. there has not been an officer indicted for officer involved shooting for over 40 years for a fatal shooting. clint allen in arlington. christian taylor. many cases have gone on. this conversation needs to go on and some policies need to be changed directly from our chief of police david brown. thank you for coming in and good luck tonight. thank you. coming up next. new details about the shooter and chilling final message authorities say he left. what that message tells investigators about his state of mind. we ll be right back. viagra single packs. so guys with ed can. take viagra when they need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension. your blood pressure could drop to an unsafe level. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra single packs. using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework. wire. and plants needed to give my shop. a face. no one will forget. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink see what the power of points can do for your business. take on any road with intuitive all-wheel drive. the nissan rogue, murano and pathfinder. now get 0% apr for up to 72 months, plus $500 bonus cash. this dog treat called max and dentalife.covered it s really different. see? 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not necessarily, perhaps in the ramblings of a disturbed man but the police chief has used the term a couple of time, righteous. there may have been something within the shooter. perhaps he s sayi ining righteo blood or something like that. there is still a lot to learn and why we have to learn is because we need to be able to look at people in advance and see how we can help them before they go out and commit a terrible act like that. then it is too late. yeah because if you go back even further and i talked with colonel jack jacobs about this last night. you have an army reservist in less than a year after going in he s charged by a woman with sexual harassment. she said he needed mental health assistance but he s given an honorable discharge against recommendations. you have people say he was obsessed with equipment and tactical moves. even if you say something is not right here. this? yeah there is a big quantum leap between something s not right, between someone perhaps has a mental health condition and between somebody who becomes a mass murderer at the same time. but chris, until we find a way to address this terrible chasm in our society between what the african american community believes that police are doing and until police believe that they have some type of support from the community. these terrible situations, this head banging between philosophies and people is going to continue. i fear four country. former fbi profiler clint van zandt as always. appreciate your insights. thank you clint. thank you, chris. and when we come back we ll talk to one dallas city council member how the city plans to honor and remember the five police officers who lost their lives thursday night. american express open cards can help you take on a new job, or fill a big order or expand your office and take on whatever comes next. find out how american express cards and services can help prepare you for growth at open.com. fi[announcer] is it a force of express cardnature?ervices or a sales event? 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do you expect there will be some folks that come here? yes, i have been able to get some response. so it s really just a matter of putting something together. i spent some time working in the entertainment industry and the radio field. and so i ve been able to make outreach through various networks and really have gotten some positive response. so they just get us a date. so that s what my staff and i and my team are working on in really bringing the rest of the council alongside us to make sure we are truly being an example of what courage under fire looks like and what we need to be doing to set a model for the rest of the nation. tiffani young, thank you. thank you for coming. that s going to do it for me for this hour. frances rivera will pick up our next hour joined by one of the leaders of texas black lives matter movement. i m chris jansing, we ll be right back. thank you is what we say. but we mean so much more. we mean how can we help? we mean what can we do? we mean it s our turn. to do our part. to serve you, for all you ve done to serve us. this dog treat called max and dentalife.covered it s really different. see? 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