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seen what's happened to a bunch of donald trump's supporters that showed up to the capitol on january 6th that have now faced lengthy prison sentences. so you hope that that's a deterrent. but again, unlike new york, florida's a much trumpier place than new york. so i think it's kind of hard to predict what the turnout will look like. >> let's also remember, these words matter. if you look at the january 6th defendant who is have been prosecuted, dozens of them have said at their sentencing, we believed that -- my client believed he was following the president's wishes. >> and their social media was used against them in their case. >> exactly rice. >> the other thing going on, remember, we're many years after the sort of 2020 black lives matter protest in many cities, and cities do have a better idea about large-scale protests or even a better idea of how to cooperate in preparation for any kind of feared, kind of mass gathering. >> can i ask eliot, i'm going to direct this to you, because you have some expertise on the former attorney general, in a book, i believe, related to the
of bellingcat, and then you with bellingcat. bellingcat really first emerged as an investigative force, looking at what was happening in the conflict in syria in the period around 2013, 2014. you focus your attention on russia. why are you with bellingcat and has bellingcat fundamentally shifted its main focus of attention? well, you are right. the founder of bellingcat, eliot... eliot higgins. ..higgins, he did start his blogging platform initially because of his acute interest in the details of open source investigations of the war in yemen and syria but by 2014, when he formalised bellingcat as the bellingcat platform with this particular name, i believe the first project bellingcat looked at as bellingcat was the shooting down of mh—i7.
you with bellingcat. bellingcat really first emerged as an investigative force looking at what was happening in the conflict in syria in the period around 2013—2014. you focus your attention on russia. so why are you with bellingcat? and has bellingcat fundamentally shifted its main focus of attention? well, i mean, you are right, the founder of bellingcat, eliot... eliot higgins. ..higgins, he did start his blog and blogging platform initially because of his acute interest in the details of open—source investigations of the war in yemen and in syria. but by 2014, when he formalised bellingcat as the bellingcat platform with this particular name, i believe the first project that bellingcat looked at as bellingcat was the shoot—down of mhi7,
operations and some of its military operations, if we can, let's get to the origin story of bellingcat, and then you with bellingcat. bellingcat really first emerged as an investigative force, looking at what was happening in the conflict in syria in the period around 2013, 2014. you focus your attention on russia. why are you with bellingcat and has bellingcat fundamentally shifted its main focus of attention? well, you are right. the founder of bellingcat, eliot... eliot higgins. ..higgins, he did start his blogging platform initially because of his acute interest in the details of open source investigations of the war in yemen and syria but by 2014, when he formalised bellingcat as the bellingcat platform with this particular name, i believe the first project bellingcat looked at as bellingcat
administration. they are pur they have no interest in the facts. remember , the new york times? "the washington post" got pulitzer prizes for reporting total falsehoods about what turned out to be the russian hoax. and they didn't give back id their pulitzer prizes. they were quite happy to keen'p so you just have to start every. morning with the idea these the equivalent of pravdae happyo and izvestia in the old soviet tell you they're the party line.u to they tell you what they wante ar you to believe. bue amert the average american s tht and they look at reality. they go to the grocery store, they go to the gas station, they look at the crime rate in their city. >> they look at them.city, they i know. i know. but the border, eliot, i don'tty mean to interrupt you, butat they looked at that in twenty , twenty two and they elected john fetterman fedde and they e katie hobbs in arizona. so in two years, we got to gete enough of those voters to switch and become republicans. yes. and becoublicans, yes? >> sure. >>
over his plan to revamp the country's judicial system. hundreds of thousands of israelis took to the streets saturday for the 11th week of protests over the proposal. netanyahu and his supporters say there must be a check on the power of the country's unelected judges. some critics say the plan would undermine israel's democracy, while others say the whole thing is netanyahu's way of distracting from his legal troubles. eliot gotkin is in jerusalem and joins me now. eliot, first of all, what is the latest on those protests? >> kim, this was a saturday night protest, as it has been the last, for the last 11 weeks. of course, we've been seeing mid-week protests as well. this is just becoming a regular thing now, to see hundreds of thousands of people out on the streets, rain or shine, to express their opposition to this government's radical judicial overhaul. as you say, they are concerned that it will erode pretty much all checks and balances on the government, by allowing it to
out of coming in to testify. >> a good point. one last thing, eliot. the trump aid margo martin appeared before a grand jury yesterday and is a trump communications aide from the white house who significantly continued with him as he went over to mar-a-lago. what did we learn about what she might have been testifying to? >> it is hard to know but one thing is for certain. conversations she has with the former president after her time in the white house are going to be subject to a lot less protection than the one she would have had with the president when he was president. we've talked about the idea of executive privilege. sometimes the president is entitled to have statements and conversations with his staff protected under the law. that is not the case here. as someone who was here both before and during and after the presidency she could have a tremendous amount of information that might be useful to prosecutors or investigators.