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>> we didn't see any shotgun shells. >> what did that say to you? >> somebody collected the shotgun shells. >> but who does a thing like that, if they've got a messy crime scene of that sort? >> somebody that didn't want fingerprints on the shotgun shells, is the only thing i could think of. >> reporter: while investigators examined the crime scene, lyle menendez, then 21, and erik, 18, went to the station to speak to police. >> the brothers said they were in and out throughout the day. and then as evening approached, they decided that they wanted to go to the movies. they wanted to see a james bond movie. but it was sold out. so they saw the batman movie, which they had both seen before. so they decided to see that again. >> curious. >> reporter: after the movie, they told detectives, they'd planned to meet a friend for a drink at the cheesecake factory, but they had to go back to the house to pick up erik's fake i.d. and when they walked in, they said, they saw a haze in the
leslie abramson wrapped her arms around their shoulders. had them trade their dapper suits for preppy sweaters. >> everything that jill lansing and leslie abramson did was deliberate and calculated. >> prosecutor bozanich steeled herself, determined not to let the optics distract the juries. >> based upon this evidence, it will become apparent that this murder was unlawful, unjustified, and wholly premeditated. >> in basic english, the prosecution's case was this. "just the facts, ma'am." >> fact number one. lyle and erik driving down to san diego, two days before the murders, to buy shotguns and with a stolen i.d. >> why are you using the fake i.d.? because you know you're gonna be using the gun to do something you shouldn't be doing. that is evidence of intent. >> after the murders, the prosecution showed the brothers lied to the police for months, starting from the very moment lyle called 911. >> someone killed my parents!
actually planned it. tried to make it look look a mob hit. used a stolen id to buy guns. and try to get away with it. after -- a lavish nationwide spending spree. public judgment came harsh and fast. >> they were smug. people were not predisposed to think kindly of eric and lisle. >> media feasted on the story of the rich brothers who killed their parents for the $14 million estate. hard to over state the public's disgust with those young men. but, on the other side of the country in an upscale new jersey town just a few miles from princeton, people began comparing memories. >> their home at the time was a on a lake. >> this is the home where lisle and eric grew up. bill was a young tennis coach. when he met jose.
that shakespeare wrote about. >> reporter: and yet, it seemed that's exactly what happened. a few weeks after the arrests, detective zoeller confirmed another tip judalon smyth gave them. >> judalon said that the guns were purchased at a gun store in san diego. i was lookin' through gun records. and i said, "this is it." >> reporter: the name on the sale was an old friend of lyle's from princeton. but the friend was not even in california when the guns were purchased. and he was missing his i.d. >> we learned later that lyle had taken the wallet. >> reporter: it seemed like overwhelming evidence that lyle and erik killed their parents. two rich kids, spoiled and greedy. had murdered their own parents in cold blood.
symptom onset, so those are -- those are only potential roadblocks that i see for this country, but listen, there's hundreds of millions of doses that should become available or hundreds of thousands of doses that should be available by the beginning of the year and millions thereafter. >> dr. azar, before i let you go, there's this saying and i think i got it right but i always get these sayings wrong. give me a finger, i'm going to take a hand. not sure if that's it. but nonetheless, 2 to 5-year-olds, we've got 5 to 11-year-olds now in the bag, vaccinations in arms. my kiddo getting a vaccine on wednesday. when will my 3-year-old be able to get a vaccine? aside from getting him a fake i.d., of course. >> yeah. so, honestly, yasmin, i think we're still many months away from that. i think we can hope, you know, optimistically that we might get data by the end of the year, but i think we're really looking at first quarter of 2022 before we really have data presented to
the fda for their eua, but i suspect that if it looks as good as the previous age groups does, that you can expect your little one to be vaccinated, i would say, certainly within the first half of 2022. >> i just want to put out there i'm entirely joking about the fake i.d. for my 3-year-old, by the way. i would never do that. dr. natalie azar, thank you as always for rolling with the punches. he can get one on his own one day if he wants. i'll just follow him along as he does. thank you. all right, nfl mvp quarterback aaron rodgers's vaccine scandal just keeps getting bigger. in his first public comments since testing positive for covid, the packers qb confirmed yesterday that he is, in fact, unvaccinated, despite telling reporters in august that he had been "immunized." apparently rodgers had been referring to a homeopathic remedy, not an approved coronavirus vaccine. joining me now, nbc's
because he submitted a fake covid-19 vaccination card. i think with more organizations trying to implement vaccine mandates, how worried should we be worried about fake i.d.s and an industry of people popping up with fake i.d.s to get into stadiums, go to restaurants and go to concerts. because you know people will not ignore the vaccine mandates but they sure as hell will come up with a fake i.d. card to get in. >> there's so many things on my mind right now. i totally understand that the fake i.d. thing is something i didn't think i'd ever have to deal with again once i turned 21. and that looks like a possibility there. >> it's back. >> that is so nasty that he is dropping forks and then picking them up and eating. but honestly i've got to be real with you for a split second. >> please. >> i know it's what he said but i don't know if i believe him. this is very interesting time to get covid.
comprehensive case that took the prosecutor three hours to sum up, there was so much evidence i would agree with what you now have been hearing. this is a pretty short verdict for such a comprehensive case with so many victims and so much evidence at first i'll tell you, honestly, we've had some interesting notes from the jury that's come in in the last nine hours, and i was beginning to kind of wonder a little bit about that but now it seems like this is a quick verdict to me for such a complicated case and i feel pretty good about it. >> i think ron allen is still with us. ron, another big name that came up during this case often was aleah, who people will remember was a huge r&b star back in the day. there were allegations that kelly obtained a fake i.d. for her back in 1994 when she was
annulled a few years later and then tragically aleah died in a plane crash. her case is essentially charge 1, a bribery charge because of this whole idea of tryingto ge a fake i.d. for her. you have to think about who r. kelly was in the 1990s there was probably no bigger r&b star of that era than r. kelly people nowadays may not quite remember all of that this guy was really just an incredible superstar, a m megastar i think it was like three or four grammies, countless other awards, tens of millions of records, and so many people of a certain generation say that he was the soundtrack of their lives in the background, all the smooth r&b music that was just -- it was extraordinarily popular. some of that is lost now i often said if this was happening in the 1990s, this trial, there would be police and
example, possession of a false instrument, a fake i.d., is a felony but it is graded according to the degree and every state has similar and slightly different laws. >> and ben, another front in this fake vaccine card issue, one global health policy professor put it bluntly "the united states, unlike most country that's have electronic processes in place, have a flimsy paper card. many people have got the shot vane a steady amount of