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now, as we mentioned earlier, the co—founder of 0ceangate, the firm that built and operate,the titan submersible — has rejected claims that it cut corners. guillermo sonhelm left 0ceangate ten years ago. he's been speaking to the bbc. the innovation outpaces the regulations and oftentimes, 0ne one of the issues that keeps coming up one of the issues that keeps coming up is that people keep equating certification with safety and are ignoring the 14 years of development of the titan sub. any expert who weighs in on this, including mr cameron, will also admit they were not there for the design of the sub, the engineering, the building of the sub and not the rigorous test programme the sub went through. this was a 14 year testing programme that it went through and like any successful science expeditions to the titanic over the last three years. let's cross live now

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you through the whole... you even sat inside it. so you kind of know what it feels like to be inside. and that sub went to three times titanic depth, quite literally. safely, i'd like to point out. you know, when people go down to a place like titanic as, let's call it a citizen explorer, right? i don't like "tourist". i think somebody that's willing to spend that kind of money and do that kind of preparation and devote weeks of their life, they're a citizen explorer. they shouldn't have to worry about the vehicle that they're in. worry about titanic because it's a dangerous site for entanglement and collapse, you could have a structural collapse on the sub and it's a very dangerous site. but understand the risks. agree to those risks. but don't be in a situation where you haven't been told about the risks of the actual platform that you're diving in. in the 21st century, there shouldn't be any risk.

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our science correspondent jonathan amos has more now on what the investigators will be looking at. we have some idea now of the debris and what was seen on the ocean floor close to the titanic, about 500m get of that old ship. this is the titans sub, about 7m long. it has a pointy end, they found a part of that. they found their slanting structure which enables it to sit on a flat surface when any workshop like this, and they also found the titanium endcap that has the porthole, there are two of these. in the middle is where the focus of the investigation will probably be, because the cylinder is made of carbon fibre, not the usual material that they construct such

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the same — warnings that were not heeded, in the same sentiment as the titanic itself, _ the same sentiment as the titanic itself, people were raising concerns which _ itself, people were raising concerns which were — itself, people were raising concerns which were not listened to. there is a whole _ which were not listened to. there is a whole question about whether the industry— a whole question about whether the industry can continue. the titanic historicai— industry can continue. the titanic historical society says maj voyages to the _ historical society says maj voyages to the wreckage should end. not many people _ to the wreckage should end. not many people can _ to the wreckage should end. not many people can participate at this because _ people can participate at this because the cost is so high, it is not a _ because the cost is so high, it is not a mass _ because the cost is so high, it is not a mass participating industry but there — not a mass participating industry but there are questions about whether— but there are questions about whether it can continue. thank you, danjohnson- _ junior doctors in england are to strike for five consecutive days next month, in an escalation of their long running dispute with the government over pay. the british medical association, the doctors' union, says it will be the longest single period of industrial action in the history of the national health service. the five—day walk—out will be between seven in the morning on thursday 13thjuly and the same time on tuesday 18th. our health editor hugh pym is with me. what are junior doctors saying?

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underwater robots. the bodies of the five men who died may never be recovered. on board were the british businessman shahzada dawood and his teenage son suleman. suleman was studying at the university of strathclyde in glasgow. it said staff and students were shocked and profoundly saddened. the british—asian trust described his father as a wonderful and generous man. the family of the british explorer hamish harding said they'd lost him doing what he loved. also killed, the veteran french diver paul—henri nargeolet. it's really sad that he's lost his life in the place where he so loved to share his experiences with exploring the titanic. every time i dive i see something i've never seen before... stockton rush also lost his life. his firm oceangate ran the expedition. colleagues described him as a true explorer. this was the titan sub. the us navy says on sunday underwater microphones

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detected a noise which could have been the vessel imploding. there are now growing questions about its safety. the director of the film titanic, james cameron, who has completed 33 dives to the wreck, believes the tragedy could have been prevented. the comms were lost and navigation was lost. and i said instantly you can't lose comms and navigation together without an extreme catastrophic event. a highly energetic, catastrophic event, the first thing that popped to mind was implosion. so i felt in my bones what had happened. and, you know, our community of deep ocean engineers spoke out against it quite loudly and the warnings were unheeded. experts say the sub, seen here on a mission last year, may not have needed to pass the same tests other vessels are subject to because it was operating in international waters where deep sea exploration is unregulated. but the co—founder of oceangate

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i would submit that there's a terrible irony here. here we have, at the wreck of titanic, we now have another wreck that is based on, unfortunately, the same principles of not heeding warnings. 0ceangate were warned — they had people working internally, apparently, that basically quit. they had... some of us, i wasn't involved directly, but there were some of us in the deep submergence community that got together and wrote a letter to them saying, "we believe that you are going on a path to catastrophe." that's a rough quote — something like that. and we all have a concern here because it will be a setback for the deep submergence community because of this, because of the, you know, the let's call it poor choices. i don't want to say reckless, but let's say poor choices that were made.

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cables go that bring the data traffic across from europe into north america, and you can see how important geo strategically at this area is off the canadian coast. this is where the us may be have hydrophone is, that they listen, they may have found the event on sunday. they may have found the event on sunda . ~ , ., �* they may have found the event on sunda . ~ �* they may have found the event on sunda . ~ ,, �* ,., ., ., sunday. where you're pointing to now is international _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters and _ sunday. where you're pointing to now is international waters and the - is international waters and the people who were on board were all different nationalities, so i suppose the question is, who will be leading this investigation? that’s leading this investigation? that's an interesting _ leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, - leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, and - leading this investigation? that's an interesting question, and the | an interesting question, and the titanic is a good example here — when the titanic went down, it too went down in international waters, beyond the exclusive economic zone of both canada and the united states. on that occasion, both united states and britain set up ports of inquiry and some of the

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ineffective tourist industry. you have _ ineffective tourist industry. you have people involved with the company, oceangate, defending its record. _ company, oceangate, defending its record, saying it took safety extremely seriously, that they were not reckless, but that you have questions — not reckless, but that you have questions about the design of the submersible and the whole nature of paying _ submersible and the whole nature of paying passengers going to such depths— paying passengers going to such depths and taking such an extreme expedition in difficult conditions, taking _ expedition in difficult conditions, taking those risks in what is uncharted territory, international waters _ uncharted territory, international waters where it is not clear what the regulations would be all who would _ the regulations would be all who would enforce them, so there are cails— would enforce them, so there are calls for— would enforce them, so there are calls for that to be made clearer for a _ calls for that to be made clearer for a set — calls for that to be made clearer for a set standard to be laid across the industry. some said that oceangate was not prepared to put the titan — oceangate was not prepared to put the titan submersible to the sorts of certification that the rest of the industry adheres to. voices like james _ the industry adheres to. voices like james cameron, the director of titanic, — james cameron, the director of titanic, are _ james cameron, the director of titanic, are saying there were warnings _ titanic, are saying there were warnings that were not heeded, in

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denies it cut corners. everyone keeps equating certification with safety and is ignoring the 14 years of development of the titan sub. any expert who weighs in on this, including mr cameron, will also admit that they were not there for the design of the sub, for the engineering of the sub, for the building of the sub, and certainly not for the rigorous test programme that the sub went through. investigations were now begin into what caused the mission to the titanic to fail so catastrophically. simon jones, bbc news. let's get the latest from danjohnson, our correspondent in boston, which is where the search operation had been coordinated. a growing list of questions for the company that operated this vessel? yes, a huge number of questions and is a growing _ yes, a huge number of questions and is a growing debate about this whole area of— is a growing debate about this whole area of deep sea exploration as

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