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achieved a lot. as i said, we want to see this conflict come to an end as quickly as possible consistent with israel's objective of making sure that october 7th doesn't happen again. as they are completing that effort, we want to do everything we possibly can to increase protections for civilians, to make sure humanitarian assistance is getting in and getting to people who need it, and that's what we are working on relentlessly every day. of course, the hostages. i had an opportunity to meet with families again. i met with many of them -- almost all of them before on several occasions, including with president biden. for them, these three months have been aneternity. every day, every hour, every minute feels like an eternity. welessly focused on bringing them home. >> they are angry. you know that. they are angry that america is

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against him. he is going through a process through the legal system. he want to publically testify and make clear, as we know, that there is zero evidence that links any of hunter biden's business dealings with the president. we want the information out there. republicans continue to stonewall. what we have today was the republican house playing a huge theater, creating spectacle for no reason. we could have actually had hunter biden actually testifying, which is what we all want. >> republicans were clearly surprised by this. did you or anybody in the democratic side know that he was going to be showing up this morning? >> i wasn't aware. i'm not sure if our ranking member may have known or not. at the end of the day, what's really important is that we remind everyone that president biden is trying to lead this country and get things done. all the republicans care about is creating clown shows and spectacles. there is zero evidence the president has any dealings with

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targeted, whether by prosecutors in new york or federal prosecutors. that's core to his campaign message. he can deliver that just as well in a courtroom in new york city as he can in snowy iowa. that's what we will expect to see from the former president tomorrow before he returns to the campaign trail again here this weekend. >> danny, as a defense attorney, how common is it for a client to speak in the closing statements of a trial for that client? also, what are the possible benefits for trump? >> you talk about benefits. probably more the risks are what would concern me if i were counsel. here is the thing. in a pro se, you would expect the actual client to make the closing statement. normally, the rule of thumb is that if you have an attorney,

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republicans slamming hunter biden for showing up. >> you are the epitome of white privilege, coming into the oversight committee, spitting in our face, ignoring a congressional subpoena to be deposed. what are you afraid of? you have no balls to come up here. i think that hunter biden should be arrested right here, right now, go straight to jail. our nation is founded on the rule of law. >> come on. >> the premise that the law applies equally to everyone. >> the younger biden was on capitol hill the day he was supposed to testify behind closed doors saying he would testify in public. house republicans are demanding he testify first behind closed doors. hunter biden's appearance came one day before he is scheduled to be arraigned in los angeles on federal tax charges. with us now to talk more about this, capitol hill correspondent ryan nobles, and brendan buck, former top aid to boehner and

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ryan. he is an msnbc political analyst. ryan, talk to us about what happened this morning. it was the theater of politics or the politics of theater. >> reporter: maybe a little bit of both. i think what you saw play out here was a demonstration by hunter biden and his legal team that they are willing to testify to the house oversight and judiciary committees. they want to do it in a public setting. he has been very concerned from the beginning of the process that any closed door deposition could lead to any of his answers being taken out of context or released without the proper surrounding information that could potentially come from a lengthy hearing. they believe it would be more productive to answer those questions out in the public eye. listen to what his attorney said to reporters after they exited the hearing room. >> republican chairs today then are commandeering a resolution

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democrats need to be careful not to be cheering for hunter biden. this is a person who now twice indicted but has very serious ethical challenges. they may not be illegal. they may not rise to impeachment for his father. but this is an ethically challenged person. any time he is in the news, republicans are feeling good about it. they are happy with what happened today. >> is there no political risk to republicans for acting and reacting this way? >> certainly. at a committee level, i think they have -- anything that devolves into a partisan food fight, as this has, is good for him at the committee level. no doubt. people will tune it out. this is not serious. some of the language you saw in there was clearly unserious. i think at some point, hunter biden will end up testifying in public at that committee hearing. this ultimately comes down to ego. as ryan said, the committee wants to say we call the shots. you can't tell us how to do things. i think they will decide it's worth having him there in public

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if that's what it takes to get him to do it. again, they would be happy to have him spending hours in front of the camera talking about his relationship with his father, what they did and didn't do. i think that's coming to us before too long. >> ryan and brendan, thank you both very much. with us to continue our conversation is robert garcia who sits on the committee. he was there during this incident this morning. congressman, thank you for your time. what was it like in that room today? >> it's just another republican clown show. the truth is that, republicans for months and months have been asking hunter biden to testify publically. it's something house democrats support. hunter wants to testify publically. the chairman keeps blocking it. i'm not sure what there is to hide. we know obviously that mr. biden is under some legal issues that he has to resolve. there are serious allegations

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hunter biden. hunter wants to publically testify. you have folks like marjorie taylor greene showing revenge porn and crazy things. let's allow the legal process to play out. let's get to the business we have in front of the country, like funding the government, like foreign aid to places like ukraine. republicans are not interested in that. they are interested in spectacle. they are interested in hurting the american people. they have all -- they care about this revenge fantasy. they want to get donald trump elected and do everything they can to help donald trump. >> you also sit on the homeland security committee, starting impeachment hearings again secretary mayorkas. have republicans made the case for impeaching him? >> this is also completely insanity. we are having that hearing all

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>> brendan, today's appearance clearly was intended to make news and in a very real way to actually continue having the focus on hunter biden as someone who is willing to testify publically in these committees. how did you see this appearance today? >> i think there's two ways to look at it. one hand, it was a deft move to stick it to the committee. it's common to do these interviews behind closed doors. the committee has undermined its credibility by stretching truths and releasing half facts that ultimately painted a misleading picture. understanding why he is doing this. i can understand why a lot of democrats cheered him for sticking it to the committee. on the other hand, republicans are ecstatic right now. the fact hunter biden made another spectacle, he traded all this attention for himself.

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day today. the truth is, republicans want to impeach everyone. this is an effort, again that's been led by marjorie taylor greene, who is the most extreme maga member, of course, on their side. the truth is, there's no reason to impeach the secretary. we all know there are real challenges along the border and around immigration. there hasn't been immigration reform done in this country in 30 years. let's not forget that president biden and the secretary have proposed numerous solutions and funding for border agents, for technology, for getting the support they need. house republicans have blocked every single one of those. they don't want additional funding or support to help solve the issues we have along the border, to help asylum seekers, to get the process done better in the courts. they don't have any solutions. it is all political stunts. today on one hand, we have stunts around hunter and with mayorkas. it shows you there is no agenda

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