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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Miguel Marquez 20140713 21:16:00

Target and everyone s a target, grandmother, kids, they don t care where these rockets go and they don t care who they hit. that s the reason why israel is having to be so tough right now. palestinian children the other side, though, plays without abandonment of care of human life. ben, i think we have to be honest here. if you look just in the last two days you see literally images of palestinian babies badly burned, terrorized and also killed. this is not a situation where israel s on the defensive and palestine is not. all life is valuable. all people have a stake in their own humanity and both sides have a side for critique. the human shield critique might be accurate but that doesn t give israel the right to fire back into the same areas. let me put it this way, ben. sure. obviously israel does have more power. it is able to target well. when you apply that pressure in gaza city and these heavily ....

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Miguel Marquez 20140713 21:07:00

There s an ongoing bombardment here of the civilian population. while there are projectiles going in both directions, there s absolutely no parity in the level of force that s being used against a vastly civilian population. i think the point that the ambassador makes is fundament fundamentally flawed because it completely misunderstands the problem here at the foundation why this keeps recurring. the reason this keeps recurring is because even though there have been cease-fires in the past, when the rockets stop flying the occupation of palestine and the colonization of palestinian, the siege of gaza, all of which are backed by the force of a massive israeli military, do not stop. in fact, those continue and nobody holds the israelis accountable when they continue with those violations. that s really been the reason why cease-fires have fallen apart in the past. and if we are to get a durable cease-fire, it has to start with ....

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Miguel Marquez 20140713 21:06:00

In a unique situation. they generally can t leave their own country. they have two borders, israel and egypt. neither of which is open to gaza resident. even if they wanted to leave, it s impossible. health officials now say 168 people have been killed in gaza, more than 1100 have been injured. rockets still flying into israel. air strikes still happening. overnight quite a few. in your estimation, what is the key to stopping this back and forth and getting this back to some sort of negotiating settlement? it s interesting that you mention the ongoing game to ambassador oren there. just last week, just to give you an example of what the people in gaza are going through, palestinians who were watching the world cup game, the semifinal on the beach at a cafe were struck by an israeli air strike. nine civilians were killed. ....

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Miguel Marquez 20140713 21:02:00

A cease-fire. let s talk about that, the diplomacy, the help from outside now that it s been offered. michael orrin is not only cnn s middle east analyst, he used to be israel s ambassador to the united states. mr. ambassador, thanks for coming back. your thoughts? clearly the drumbeat of diplomacy has ticked the up, but do you see it taking any sort of effect? good to be with you, miguel. you wouldn t think it likely now as a time for a diplomatic breakthrough. 40,000 israeli soldiers gathered along the gaza border prepared to go into the gaza strip to ferret out hamas rocket launchers. they ve fired 900 rockets at israel since the beginning of this operation. even rockets from lebanon today striking israel in the north. not the likeliest moment for diplomatic breakthrough. yet there is an opportunity here. i believe that a ceasefire ....

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Transcripts for CNN CNN Newsroom With Miguel Marquez 20140713 21:04:00

Into gaza. it s not a perfect arrangement, but it would change the status quo and put us all on a more stable and secure footing. that sounds like look, it sounds great to talk about. it sounds very unlikely when you talk about the practicality of all this. because of the number of troops on that border right now, the israeli troops on that border, because hamas has now used these longer range rockets and presumably would use others that could hit tel aviv, isn t it necessary for israel to now move in and take those rockets out themselves? well, because hamas is very weak and isolated in the region, hamas used to have support from egypt, from syria, from iran, it no longer does. nobody likes hamas. the saudis don t like hamas, the kuwaitis don t like hamas. very isolated. the economy in the west bank is almost devastated and has been for a long time because of hamas ....

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