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it's the trump legal team is very happy with where things are at because, as far as they are concerned, they think that they still have a lot of control with the witnesses. one exception is -- in this case. they now have a conflict issue, and one of the witnesses that he used to represent its now tripped government cooperator, and if there are more instances like that, i think you will see this joint defense agreement umbrella strategy start to collapse. >> yeah, so glen, before i move on to classified documents, i didn't stay on this question that i asked, and i think this is really good because we have seen joint defense agreements in criminal cases where we have been prosecutors, but we have seen when there is a fisher and that line of defense when people don't agree anymore in terms of how to approach this. how often as a federal prosecutor, glenn, have you had to manage the fact that you've had their own significant exposure within their interest online anymore? yes, it happens not
the effort for the case in georgia. donald trump fought mightily to keep meadows from testifying. he invoked privilege and ultimately they failed, which is why meadows initially agreed to talk to the special counsel under subpoena. so i don't know. the big question that both of you are raising is is there a cooperation agreement, is there something more? but what we can see from this reporting we've done at abc is at the very least meadows has been speaking to investigators at the special counsel's office and has been at least in the classified document case answering questions with apparent candor. >> you know what david and glen already know. you can check out but never leave "deadline white house." special counsel is fighting back to delay the federal trial.
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mystery what his status will be. >> his conduct is so clear from cassidy hutchinson's testimony. the gang analogy is interesting because meadows is the one that makes clear that when it came to gangs, trump stood with the insurrectionists on the day of january 6th and said to his own lawyers, you know, he thinks mike deserves it. that's the white house chief of staff, he thinks that mike deserves it. "it" was being hung. >> yeah, nicole, i think glen's question is a very good one and i'm curious if the vice is not just tight enough yet on mark meadows because i served with mark meadows, i know mark meadows and i believe today that mark meadows has sung like a canary already to jack smith. he is somebody who holds himself out with a bit of a compass. that requires you to skip past the fact that he went to work with donald trump, which holds all these morals questions in and of itself. he is somebody who considers
some candor, it looks like he's at least providing testimony that will be likely to be damaging to donald trump. what is he saying in the january 6th case? >> it is like the 64 million dollar question all over d.c. and you get so much further for an understanding on the documents side. i'm dying to bring glen and david into this conversation. we'll have much more on jack smith's other investigation into donald trump and all the questions that john is describing are still swirling on what exactly meadows' role is in that investigation. and an argument getting traction on the left and right that the republican presidential front-runner, the four-times indictmented ex-president himself should be disqualified for running for president at all because of his role in the
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how this fits into any legal context. then the other thing was this news conference he was going to hold, you know, i wonder if fulton county would have to re-impanel the grand jury to look at a super ceding indictment if he was going to make some of the same fraudulent claims that he's accused of in its indictment. you have to ask yourself at some time, even if the primary season seems to be as one-sided as it's looking, whether or not they're going to hunker down and develop some sort of a strategy. i know here in d.c. judge chutkan indicated quite strongly, even if this doesn't come to trial in january, she intends to move this expeditiously. >> it is interesting, glen, too, and you and your colleagues have reported on this extensively how totally different he is under