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Newsnight

so you didn't receive any alert? nothing on your phone? in all three cities, despite our attempts, we didn't find one person — not one — who got a warning for the first earthquake. despite putting this evidence to google, the company was insistent that it had worked. how sure are you that firstly, it did fire, and secondly, that it actually got to people during this earthquake? i'm as sure as we can be that the system activated and that we did send alerts. it's possible that given all of the massive impact of the first event, that this just

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earthquake when you were sleeping? no. and what about... so it looked like that and it makes a sound. phone chimes. no, no, no. like this? phone chimes. no, no. allegan lost his grandmother when the hospital building she was being treated in collapsed. did your android phone, did it send you an image, a warning? did it make a sound? did it send you any kind of alert at 4.17am that that earthquake was starting? no. nothing? nothing. right after the earthquake, i went to google to check the magnitude. so this came up on google. but your screenshot is 4.32am. 4.32am, yeah. so this was long after the earthquake happened. yeah. we did find a few people who had

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ago today who's determined that it should not become a forgotten war. i went into a pub with my father and jack came in and he said, "oh, i haven't seen you for a while. where have you been?" i said, "i've been to korea." he said, "did you have a nice time?" you know, it was peripheral to them. good evening. in trying to understand climate change sometimes we get snapshots — like tourists fleeing fires in greece earlier this week — and then we get the big picture. today it was more of the latter, with the met office revealing modelling that suggests last year, with its record breaking temperatures, will, by the end of this century, be considered a cool one. we also had a stark warning from scientists who said july is "virtually certain" to be the world's hottest ever recorded month, with un chief antonio guterres also sounding the alarm, saying the world is entering a period

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Newsnight

she couldn't even move. afterwards, i turned my phone off do not disturb. but there was no warning, no buzzing or audio warning came before the first quake. ridvan's tweet was actually referring to a later earthquake. the same goes for almost all of the others. two of the social media posts did claim to be referring to the first earthquake. one person didn't message us back, despite multiple attempts to contact them. another wrote a long account about how they did get a warning a few seconds before the first earthquake. however, they wouldn't give us their name and couldn't be certain of their memory of events. google's early warning service is in dozens of countries, and you could argue that an imperfect system is better than none at all. however, there are alternatives. here in california, earthquakes are detected with seismometers placed near faults in the ground. this is one we recently visited. japan has a similar system.

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Newsnight

we're not talking about an anecdote of it's popped up here and there. these are intended as blanket warning systems. that's the whole point. we can't be sure that no one got this alert, but we can be sure that many people didn't. there was no blanket warning — a warning that could have saved lives. anna a n na foster anna foster and james clayton reporting. former president donald trump took to social media today. an indictment on charges relating to the january 6th insurrection was thought to be imminent, so he tweeted that he did nothing wrong and that "an indictment of me would only further destroy our country". in the event those charges did not materialise today, with some observers now predicting they could come tomorrow. to give us an update on this, we're joined now by adam klasfeld, senior legal correspondent

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quietly happened in the background while users were really paying attention to lots of other things. at the end of the day, i think that's probably the most likely explanation, is that users were focused on something else and might not even have noticed if they got the alert. like i say, in every event... all i can say, though, is that the team has just talked to dozens and dozens of people. if they had got advanced warning of this earthquake, you would have expected people to have remembered this. so i guess that's the question i have i have for you. i unfortunately have the same question. what could the reason be? largely the theories are what i've hypothesised with you today, but these are all theories. another oddity is the lack of social media response to the alert. usually when there's an earthquake, and recent ones in pakistan, there was one in indonesia recently that affected malaysia. social media sort of lights up with all of these comments saying, "i just got an alert". the thing that was unusual about turkey is that that didn't happen. why do you think that was the case?

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so sometimes it might be a second or a fraction of a second. sometimes it might be 20 or 30 seconds, sometimes it might be 50 or 60 seconds. it depends on all of those factors together, how much warning we're able to give you. could this save lives? i mean, has it saved lives? i certainly hope so. our intent is to be able to give users as much warning as we possibly can to help them protect themselves, theirfamilies, their loved ones. so this is a core service of android. it was two or three in the morning. i was sound asleep. this is a google advert about the system. a man talks of the worries of living in an earthquake zone and the comfort of having the service. the notification said there was an earthquake. it said how big it was and how far it was. it's one less thing i have to worry about. here's the crucial thing. it works automatically on any android phone. you don't need to turn it on. if your phone was on do not disturb, it would override that? exactly the same behavior that you just heard, no matter

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in the country. the company claims it sent out millions of warnings before the quake hit. but bbc teams in turkey and silicon valley can't find evidence that this warning was widely received by people in the earthquake zone. in a special report for bbc newsnight, here 5 anna foster in turkey and james clayton in san francisco. it was one of the most powerful quakes turkey had ever seen. more than 50,000 people died. the scale of the destruction was almost impossible to comprehend. back in february, i was reporting on the ground in the hours and days and weeks afterwards, hearing people's stories. people who'd lost notjust relatives, but entire families. millions were jolted awake at 4.17am, when

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you know, my guess is as good as anyone's. i don't have any particular insight into why, but i don't have a resounding answer for, i guess, why we haven't seen more reaction on social media to that particular event. after this interview, google compiled a list of 13 social media posts that they'd found trawling turkish and english social media platforms and gave them to the bbc. google said they hadn't contacted these people, so we did our own research and tracked them down to speak to them. take this man, who tweeted that he'd got a warning. we messaged him, but he didn't respond. but i did manage, through his social media posts, to find out what gym he worked at, and by contacting him there, he agreed to be interviewed. translation: around 4am - in the morning, when the quake hit, when i stood up, my mom, my dad and my sister were all awake. my sister had crouched down in fear.

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what state your phone is in. you should get that warning? yes. the company claims that is exactly what happened in turkey. millions of people received a warning. so our system did activate for both of the major events in turkey, as well as for a number of aftershocks. i was really puzzled by that claim because i was here on the ground in turkey in the hours and the days and the weeks after the earthquake. and nobody had ever mentioned in any interview with me receiving an alert before the earthquake. so we decided to go to three cities that had been impacted. adana, osmaniye and iskenderun. they're each between 70 and 150 kilometers from the epicenter. kilometers from the epicentre. so enough of a distance away to get a warning. and i simply asked people whether they'd received an alert. everyone you're about to hear from has an android phone. so when the earthquake happened, the first one that happened in the night, did you get this alert on your phone at the time of the

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