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also creating a safe space. what made her so special is that anyone could almost create a hashtag that could break through and create a resounding moment and change the conversation and behavior. all i can think of the hashtag metoo. and you didn't, when must took over, you didn't have a more. because as we are saying, we saw not only bots but we sir and credible amount of promotion. also is for people we didn't to follow. it changes. threads is right now in a real special place. but i have to say elon musk is full of sour grapes. he claims to be a libertarian, but the moment that the free market take hold, he all of a sudden decides he wants to have a beef with zuckerberg by taking him to court. so it seems that he is not quite sure of perhaps where his own political affiliations lot, because he is not happy with the fact that the free market is actually working as a should. >> maria teresa kumar, alaina beverly, danny cevallos. and thank you all for joining us tonight. we'll be right back. top grills and gear.
oversight. >> i think more of a site, but also creating a safe space. what made her so special is that anyone could almost create a hashtag that could break through and create a resounding moment and change the conversation and behavior. all i can think of the hashtag metoo. and you didn't, when must took over, you didn't have a more. because as we are saying, we saw not only bots but we sir and credible amount of promotion. also is for people we didn't to follow. it changes. threads is right now in a real special place. but i have to say elon musk is full of sour grapes. he claims to be a libertarian, but the moment that the free market take hold, he all of a sudden decides he wants to have a beef with zuckerberg by taking him to court. so it seems that he is not quite sure of perhaps where his own political affiliations lot, because he is not happy with the fact that the free market is actually working as a should. >> maria teresa kumar, alaina
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somebody gets humiliated. somebody gets sued. somebody goes through something really horrible and instead of ruining their career, it kind of reminds people why we liked him. and you play this game on two levels. one is certainly the court of law. and two, is the court of public opinion. and whatever happens in the court of law johnny certainly seems to be winning in the court of public opinion right now. and i'm not saying disney is going to go and do a movie with johnny and pirates 11, that is certainly not going to happen that a big corporate studio is going to go jump out. but will he get some endorsement deal overseas or a movie overseas or an independent movie? yeah. somebody is going to want to figure out a way to harness all this love for johnny that's out there right now and turn it into dollars. this guy has made -- >> quick final observation, if i may. it's the era of hashtag metoo,
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used the hashtag #metoo in order to express what they had been through, even now people still don't understand what it means to come forward. it is still enormously difficult. so my colleagues and i wanted to look at what happened after they spoke up and everyone else moved on. there's still a misconception that this is something that involves personal gain. people still ask why did you say nothing at the time. why did you only do this years later? what kind of evidence do you have? and then there's the aftermath. is there a personal gain? is there fame? well, among the 25 people that we spoke to and we spoke to many more than we could include, there was a lot of cost. it was painful. it changed their relationships. it changed their professional life. they lost opportunities. they still wonder whether there are opportunities they didn't know about that they lost. in some ways these are the front line soldiers of social change. they're the people who put themselves on the lines can they may be casualties.
really difficult situation, a problem quite frankly for the people keeping him in custody for all kinds of reasons. cost of health care and maintaining his health are not one of the problems with this issue. keeping them safe is another. there are a number of concerns with the case of this nature. >> harris: i hear their criminal defense in your voice there, that's some of the things his attorneys may say. the seriousness of his crimes, the hashtag metoo moment we are in right now. how does this play out, could the judge give him that? >> but for his age he would be looking at the maximum and the judges really going to have to weigh this from every side, all the concerns the jail will have about keeping him versus the appearance of whatever sentence he gives and quite frankly he's been found guilty which is why he's being sentenced and to the