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that is bad for donald trump that is not, as one liar put i outside the courthouse, boiler plate. that is your boiler plate, through your broiler played ou the window you have a blood poorly played case you have that will appoint life it is not everyone's life. it is not how elections around now, the real watergate ha bigger things, it obviously ha nixon in the white house as an incumbent, et cetera but i do think that the ke here, which they will presen to a jury, every crime, ever lie, every intent was about -- an election. >> and the cover-up. i'm sorry. someone close to the investigation told me last wee that it is not about what he did out of the election is different the voters it is about the cover-up he di from inside the oval office. -- sign from inside the oval. >> every allegedly falsified business record described in the indictment and used as a basis of a charge happens whil he is in - your of his presidency >> one more legal point that heel we all know -
table, having been lawless his whole life he is now setting before a whole different kind o judicial - >> i think we kind of had very similar thought because, when i thought abou watching, this today and watching him, is that this i somebody who has always had, i you read mary trump's biograph of her family, what she talk about is the fact that donal trump has always relied on mor intelligent -- powerful men, to fix everything when it was his financial issue, his father would fix it. he would burn money, essentially throw it in th incinerator. the father would give him more they even had extra money from the fathers will because h took it from his siblings. the father's money fixed it. he lost 300 and $17 million of his inheritance, went deep i the whole. the courts fixed it -- roy cohen who could step in an fix it the courts always fixed hi problems he had michael cohen whose job was to fix this.
the -- be on the cover of newsweek. these were his things. the were his talismans of hi life >> 100 assent so there is a special indignity. and i think a specia humiliation to having to wal into that courthouse where the central park five had to wal through, while he is sayin kill him, put him to death he has to walk in that scene building with a black da tha he showers with the suspect, and he is in no control. the whole manhattan myth o trump in the last thing i will say is, they filmed th apprentice in trump tower. but when i wrote my trump book one of the facts that i foun really fascinating was the took a conference room and the had to renault it, because trump tower was still 80s olds it wasn't new. it wasn't fresh. it wasn't sparkly. it is all a lie. everything about the apprentic and him is always a lie. >> i think, though, that if yo talk to domestic violent extremism experts, the paralle
suing and being sued, who ha never crossed the line fro civil to criminal law. and there is something sort of profound about tha distinction. i was thinking about thi social media meme about, wha is something that is class when wrecked folks do it and - stay drinking. you're at the country club, oh you, are sitting on the stoo drinking a 40. if you rob someone of thei iphone, you are in criminal la and. that is 1000 bucks and you could be charged with felony if you don't pay a contracto $20, 000, you are just in civi law went that is where you get your lawyers to figure it out this guy has spent his whole life not paying people committing law endless act that were on the civil side of things, where his lawyers coul threaten to sue, where he coul draw things out, where he coul settle he crossed over today into the criminal law land and criminal law land operates, traditionally, in this society on people who were the mos perilous and marginalized, and grounds them through arrangements like that suddenly, the guy who used t be the most powerful person in the world is sitting at that
that is 1000 bucks and you could be charged with felony if you don't pay a contracto $20, 000, you are just in civi law went that is where you get your lawyers to figure it out this guy has spent his whole life not paying people committing law endless act that were on the civil side of things, where his lawyers coul threaten to sue, where he coul draw things out, where he coul settle he crossed over today into the criminal law land and criminal law land operates, traditionally, in this society on people who were the mos perilous and marginalized, and grounds them through arrangements like that suddenly, the guy who used t be the most powerful person in the world is sitting at that table, having been lawless his whole life he is now setting before a whole different kind o judicial - >> i think we kind of had very similar thought because, when i thought abou watching, this today and watching him, is that this i somebody who has always had, i you read mary trump's biograph of her family, what she talk
he is saying this is tabloid watergate. everything that you are saying that we were told we knew, i was small, we are nino but this he knew about what? new the links that and the extent of a corporate, secre lying, now federally convicted plot to mislead the american public, to hide things tha which might have affected thei vote, and do so in a manne that is already convicte crime. that is bad for donald trump that is not, as one liar put i outside the courthouse, boiler plate. that is your boiler plate, through your broiler played ou the window you have a blood poorly played case you have that will appoint life it is not everyone's life. it is not how elections around now, the real watergate ha bigger things, it obviously ha nixon in the white house as an incumbent, et cetera but i do think that the ke here, which they will presen to a jury, every crime, ever lie, every intent was about -- an election.
the -- be on the cover of newsweek. these were his things. the were his talismans of hi life >> 100 assent so there is a special indignity. and i think a specia humiliation to having to wal into that courthouse where the central park five had to wal through, while he is sayin kill him, put him to death he has to walk in that scene building with a black da tha he showers with the suspect, and he is in no control. the whole manhattan myth o trump in the last thing i will say is, they filmed th apprentice in trump tower. but when i wrote my trump book one of the facts that i foun really fascinating was the took a conference room and the had to renault it, because trump tower was still 80s olds it wasn't new. it wasn't fresh. it wasn't sparkly. it is all a lie. everything about the apprentic and him is always a lie. >> i think, though, that if yo talk to domestic violent extremism experts, the paralle they draw is that after 9/11 w were prepared to make sure n one ever got in an airplan with their shampoo ever again. that wasn't what was planned the face of internationa terrorism changed. after 16, the face of domestic violent extremism may have changed. what security experts are more afraid of isn't necessaril another -- field office, which happened after mar-a-lago and i think they are still, sense, a lot of anxiety about lone wolf who watches th coverage or watches trum
death and destruction or jus really bad traffic i was struck by the sort o poetic irony of trump, wit such a creature of new yor city, being arrested, settin in motion the sort of wheels o history in new york city and that new york city is place where he is calling hi people to amass, to show thi force, and nothing happens and for someone who is takin so much of his reputation on the ability to be a master o the universe of this town, not even, in some ways more than washington d.c.. this is the place that created trump. aunt for him to come back to effectively his hometown, fo this moment, to edmond that is people show up and for it to b such a withering on response, wonder whether on the state of days, i'm sure there were a lo of things running through hi hat. but watching the cargo down th highway, going down the lowe manhattan, he knows this place like probably no other place i his life to be so resoundingly rejected
effectively his hometown, fo this moment, to edmond that is people show up and for it to b such a withering on response, wonder whether on the state of days, i'm sure there were a lo of things running through hi hat. but watching the cargo down th highway, going down the lowe manhattan, he knows this place like probably no other place i his life to be so resoundingly rejected by the big apple, has to pierc trump psyche in a way that maybe other things don't necessarily. >> you know, reverend sharpton talked about this. that donald trump is a creatur of new york city, but of queens and it was always a thing that bothered him that he didn't want to be th queen's developer like his dad