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the victim. raise the age to buy a semi automatic to 18 to 2100 limit the sale of ammunition to minors. waiting. thirty days of your under 21 that was some cannot go in and buy something angry. or matt or mentally ill. the band expanding bulletins or bolts expand keep a locked container in the vehicle for closing gun show loophole's here is a democratic state senator is on that at a press conference with some of the surviving family members, take a listen. >> is no limit to how many ar-15's you can buy from a so-called hobbyist. this is a real deal happening in america right now. what would it say today if republicans and democrats got together and said we are going to close this crazy thing because this is a circus. stover would you say to the center the other democrats in the state legislature who are proposing these laws? >> i'm not had a chance to read
it's hard to comment or speculate without knowing what the facts are. >> joining us now to take a closer look, chief foreign correspondent, richard engel, and military analyst, barry mccafrey, and dan delus. what do we know about what happened? >> we don't have very much verified information. i can tell you what -- how the information came out and there's some big questions about the videos that have been emerging because they didn't emerge in a very organic way. if you look at that video in particular, that video came out around 3:00 moscow time. and if you look at that video, it appears to be taken of a security camera. and if you look, one side, what seems to be a drone, coming in and exploing right before it hits the dome of the kremlin.
on the other side, where the graphic, saying who took the video is, that seems to be the reflection of someone filming the video. you can see cabinetry behind them. and someone is backing out of the screen. someone taking video of a screen with a cell phone or another camera. this video came in around 3:00 p.m. moscow time. and it shows the alleged moment of impact by this small drone, a hobbyist-style drone. this is 12 hours roughly after the incident took place. and the timeline here is important. the way these videos came out are completely different than the way most videos come out when you have incidents like these or any kind of incident in the social media. we've been going through these very closely with our social media verification team here in london. the first video, which is presumed to be around the time of the attack, is an aftermath
potentially serious repercussion repercussions. if the russians argue it was an assassination attempt under mr. putten, they are on the verge of enhanced strikes. there is zero possibility that the ukrainians thought it was a good idea to try to assassinate mr. putin, particularly if he had to have been standing on the roof of the kremlin when the strike took place. it looks as if this is a small drone. it would have had to be launched inside russia, not from ukrainian territory. and then, finally, there's enough around thekremlin. the whole thing is nonsense. the great victory parade in moscow is coming up. perhaps it's a cover for cancelling that.
governor . >> yeah. speaking and speaking of the balloon getting shot, this is probably the biggest thing to ever happen to a hobbyist right. >> ever since, you know, little bobby smith had that civil war toy soldier removed from his thing. welcome to the show. yeah, exactly. so i thought a lot about these two stories. yeah. combine the two like i'm thinking of kids. >> why haven't the kids in the school figured out a way to deflate? well, if you pop them, here's a question. if you pop the balloon, would the teacher go like this? >> that would be interesting, right? exactly. or maybe the school could figure out a way to fire this teacher for being a garbage
us. with the advent of the chinese balloon coming across, we start to look more closely. then we found a lot more objects. as we're all learning, now there are a ton of organizations out, they're obvious, individuals, companies, yes, meteorologist who are watching a variety of different objects up in the sky. we don't have a very good idea what all of those are. yes, we definitely need a clear set of rules to say, you know, what are we gonna look for first of all? and finally, what are we gonna do about? it we can't be shooting down these things every week. we need to get a clear set of rules about what is up there, and how to identify. >> it's one thing to have hobbyist, to have weather related balloons out there, but how worried are you that there are spy intelligence compromising entities up there? that we just haven't seen it? >> no, absolutely worried about it. because of hobbyists and meteorologist, so can the russians and the chinese.
[applause] >> u.s. calling off the search for the unidentified object over lake huron. that is two of former objects shot down by the u.s. military which included that chinese spy balloon. the last hour, democratic making member of the house adam smith spoke with me about the questions and concerns that still remain over the spy balloon that moose mystery objects. >> if the hobbyist and meteorologists can do this, so can the russians and the chinese. it seems fairly obvious when you look at the extensive nature of the chinese balloons. not just the u.s., but across the world. china felt they had found a weak spot, a place where we weren't looking. so yes, there are clear intelligence implications in all of this as well. >> we have some reporters in place to talk about the days big developments. we have nbc's -- for nbc news, courtney is joining me now from munich. so, welcome my friend. does this declaration about
window of the chinese trying to do something. we got spooked. and you know when you see a scary movie, and maybe a scary movie about your own house or a house. suddenly when you try to go to sleep all these creeks in your house or previously you could avoid and ignore, they are starting to scare you. that is what happened to the u.s. government. we calibrated our radar in order to pick up the smaller hobbyist balloons that previously would have been the creeks in the sky that we would've ignored, and now we're shooting 1 million dollar missiles at them. it's a bizarre situation at the end of the day i don't think these things are worth much. i don't think they should've been out of the sky, and people are freaking out about nothing. >> don't you feel that we have a national defense obligation to ensure that our skies on our airways are safe in the united states? bear in mind, the fear of the unknown is something that can go far beyond, but at the same token, we have responsibility to ensure that we as a 360 million americans are safe. if we have things flying over us that our unidentified, it
to the tune of $2.2 million per that when they knew was a chinese spy craft, they allowed it to over over the missile sites, and they didn't shoot it down until after it did its mission. so, what is our policy? if we don't know what it is we shoot it down and if we know it is china, we let it do its work and then shoot it down. >> jesse: if you are a hobbyist, you better watch out. if you are china spying on us, you can go all the way to south carolina. this is the bottleneck balloon brigade out of illinois come a few fathers and sons get together on the weekends. this is what they do. they buy a $12 balloon when you go to a birthday party there are canisters of healing. you get a canister and inflate the balloon of the size of two greg gutfelds and a little device for tracking on it. twist it and let it fly. then they go on their phones and they see little red dot.