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the but. the at the at. the arrow at. the base is the w. s lines are from back to crunch time for us to left on their non incoming president of the european commission to european lawmakers vote in a few hours time on our executive team she s expected to get more she wants the 1st show to exclude european parliament we re taking a look at light take 2 is that she s a 1000 mapped out
a vision of presidents who go cross the line to eat washington to st. i am. i am obliged i have a home free glad you could join me well we can cross straight over to strasbourg now as we await the address from the incoming e.u. commission president on the line and at the parliament that is all brussels bureau chief max hoffmann good to see you max now does fund the line have the numbers for how commission. she has the backing of course of her own party the conservatives european peoples party although there were some hiccups in the past this time it looks like there is unanimity at least that s what their leader told us here to europe in stroudsburg so it s all about the support of other she needs the support of 2 other groups big groups here in the parliament mainly the social democrats and
they made up their mind tuesday evening they said ok they had gotten enough from was enough on the line to back her as well and then there are also the liberals that group is called a new europe and they also gave the green light on tuesday so that means yes she has the numbers and by all likelihood she will get her e.u. commission approved today here in strasbourg so they max wants to get down to business once she starts walking what can we expect her priorities to be. the priorities are reflected in the posts of the so-called executive vice presidents of that commission and so that we just run down those those different priorities while i look up at the big screen to make sure we don t miss her speech the 1st one is of course the digital age making europe fit for the digital age as you know the european union lags behind in the digital economy all the big companies the digital giants are in the united states or in china so that you have
some catching up to do there that s one priority the other priority is an economy that works for the people that s their wording not mine so getting the social and the economy together that s another executive vice presidency but most important of all probably is the green deal for europe so everything that is environmental protection combat in climate change that is the top priority for this commission at least that s what. i said and that s apparently also what the european citizens want there s a new study out just today that says that 40 percent of citizens that answered in this poll said climate change combat in climate change is the top priority and they want the commission to work on that we re just taking a look at the moment live picture of s.f. on the line being introduced meeting and greeting people there in parliament before she takes to the station we just ask you how hard will it be for her to make those
things that you just mentioned actually happened. you know sometimes the role of the e.u. commission is a little overrated of course this is the top job president of the e.u. commission is the top job in the european institutions but she can t just decide what the european union is supposed to do the final say is always with the member states and that s a different institution it s called the e.u. council so for her as she will have to find some compromise that she will have to follow the lead of the member states and if they don t want to do what she says she s going to have a hard time and you know the european union at the moment is very divided between hungary and germany or italy and france they re not all on the same page so even if she has those put top priorities it does not mean that they will be an active on top of that right here in this institution the european parliament it s gotten
harder and harder to find majorities after the last elections it s very fragmented and you can see how hard it was for her even to get approved here because she was approved in july as the president of the e.u. commission and she was only approved by 9 votes that is not a lot and remind us how we got to this stage i mean as you say 9 votes not a lot and she had stumbling blocks along the way didn t she when mitchell king about romania affronts for example hungary. she did have a lot of stumbling blocks it s all very complicated but the bottom line is that some of her commissioners were rejected by the european parliament for example you mentioned the remaining 100 garion one even the french one that was sort of a blow to to her her relationship with him i knew him i call the french president and then it took some time to replace them especially in the case of roumania that s why the whole process dragged on and until recently maybe you know one or 2 weeks ago we weren t sure that this would happen today that even there this would
be up for a vote her new e.u. commission in this session of the european parliament in strasburg but in the end it worked out as it usually does in the european union but you could tell you know it s getting harder and just on that point of course we also have the other issue of the u.k. not putting forward a representative i mean how problematic is that bearing in mind that it is set to leave the block ice. right now in the legal texas says that your commission needs to have 28 commissioners including the president and right now they don t because as you said boris johnson said i m not going to nominate a commissioner that s going to look weird in in the campaign for the general election that s coming up on december 12th in the u.k. so the legal service of of the commission pored over that and try to figure out a way how they could actually make sure that not everything this commission does is legally challenge because they only have 27 commissioners so they formally protest
they formalise started and infringement procedure even front of the european court of justice so later on they can say listen yes it s true we only have 27 commissioners but it s not our fault it s the fault of the u.k. to make sure that everything they do starting december 1st is actually legal so it s kind of interesting tonight that the german politician s.c.f. on the line she s already got a few challenges to deal with but of course we know that she is the former german defense minister but what do you reckon had chances of success that in strasbourg max bearing in mind she was only voted in with 9 votes could that prove problematic for her during her tenure you know once she s voted in the once or commission is approved her commission is approved but it just reflects as i said earlier how hard it is to get majorities in this european parliament right away at the moment you have you need 3 parties in the past you needed only 2 the big ones the social
democrats and her own conservative european peoples party now you need at least one more the liberals are usually on board we expect the greens for certain votes to be on board as well but for each decision she will have to make sure she has a majority it s not automatic like it was during the years. her predecessor at the top of the you commission. now you mentioned you know the fact that it can be a long process for example in the european union and getting new measures in place one thing that she s promised is a fresh start on migration she says with strong borders a fresh start that i mean will she be able to convince member states with such a tough issue like that on the table. the strong border issue really isn t a problem because that is how to put it the smallest common denominator you member states already agreed on that the problem with the migration issue is the redistribution of the migrants among the different member states or let s say you
have migrants arriving in greece or italy or spain and then you need the willingness of other countries to say yes we will take these in and then start the asylum procedure in our country for example in germany or the netherlands or denmark but so far there is let s put it this way not a widespread willingness to do this germany and france have done so but then you have countries like hungry in poland who categorically refuse any kind of quota system and this would be a quota system that s really not change she s going to face those difficulties and really what they re probably going to do is have its or a coalition of the willing so some countries that are willing to take in migrants and others that are at least willing to support that effort with money but it s that this is one of the most divisive issues together with the rule of rule of law in the european union at the moment and there is really no reason why funded i should just you know make this happen with
a snap of her predecessor really you failed and in doing that for 5 years well you know max well as we take a look at those live pictures of as you know fonda line that even taking some pictures some photographs that in part of meant of course as the incoming president we can just take a look at that report that you filed with regards sail as some of the challenges actually got to this point let s take a watch and then we will come back to. a salary of relief over a very close win back in july it was a law from the law and got approved by a margin of only 9 votes i feel so on noj and i m overwhelmed and i. thank you for the trust you placed me. the slim victory was a strong 1st indication that the road to the new commission would be bumpy. very bumpy indeed because after she got approved this happened. first the hunt
garion and the romanian commission candidates were rejected by the european parliament before they could even be heard on top of that c.v. gouda the french commission hopeful got the thumbs down after 2 long and painful hearings. but the real problem was that it took romania a long time to nominate a replacement but eventually they did and their candidate passed just like the replacements for a mission station hungary without neighbors boxes and france to be king by all that s the end of the story what. no no. of course there s always the u.k. prime minister boris johnson kept bringing the low blows and refused to nominate a commissioner despite being in the illegal for
a while longer that punch could make the whole commission illegal but the commission s legal services think they found the way around that so does this mean fund a lion s commission will finally be approved by the european parliament. here s someone who should know the head of the biggest political group in part of. the proposal from was a lot on the line is a good ones and an ambitious commission who wants to deliver on what people told us during the election campaign climb up on economic strengths and on digital so that is good and the people will fully support oh so we have unity in the support for was a love of the lines clear workers down to. factories and mines and shops empty as the streets fill up with dance and hope the historic to our general strike in the middle of the velvet revolution self people from prague to bratislava
take part in a beautiful piece full wave of freedom courage and unity. thank you. for me these 2 hours go to the heart of what the european union has always meant it is not only about parties and politics rules or regulations markets or currencies it is ultimately and above all else about people and their aspirations it is about people standing together for the liberty for that value was simply for a better future. there is one quote from the great watch i have been one of the heroes of 989 that stands out for me when i look ahead of to the future
he said i work for something because it is good not just because it stands a chance to succeed. i chose this cord because over the next 5 years our union will embark together in a transformation which will touch every part of our society and of our economy and we will do it because it is the right thing to do not because it will be easy. thank you sometimes forget but our greatest achievements have always come when we are bold we were bold when we saw peace where there was pain will a bold when we created a single market in the single currency we were bold when we welcomed part of our european family that had been out in the cold for too long but in the last
years we had to focus on the here and now managing crisis after emergency fighting to keep our unity and solidarity intact if we have emerged stronger in that time and i believe we have it is in great part thanks to the leadership and conviction of my predecessor. a great european he has devoted his heart his soul and his life to our union and his legacy speaks for itself don t feel. the. need emptiness surely mobile be part of all that be on your poem and while months ago you placed your trust in me. since i ve been meeting all of the political groups and all of the heads of state and
government to desert together we put together an exceptional european team you the members of the parliament. each of those 3 hearings. i had promised you that i would listen to you and that is exactly what i ve done it and i will continue to do so. together with mottoes and all of the other members of the college. news of us we ve often been in agreement yes of course sometimes we have disagreed but that is democracy at work. today here in the heart of this european democracy so i am asking for your support for a new start for europe honorable members there s. a team you are voting on today. come from different cultures countries and have different
backgrounds and political colors we have teachers and farmers mayors and ministers doctors and different meds and really years and entrepreneurs. we have those born before the ball in wall was built and those born after it was torn down those who lived in dictatorship and those who helped young democracies join our union it is a team with almost all lost as many women as men only one woman away from gender balance. this shows. this shows we have made real progress but also that we still have to do more. as the 1st woman to be president of the commission every member of my college will
have a gender balance cabinet for the very 1st time thank you thank you. and by the end of our mandate we will have gender equality at all levels of management for the very 1st time and this will change the face of the commission every member of my team will bring their own personal stories and perspectives on europe they will have their own policies and priorities to manage but all together we will be one team that works in the common european interest we will be one team that works with this house and with member states to tackle our generation s defining challenges we are ready but most importantly europe is ready my message is simple
let s get to work. honorable members this is an unsettled world where too many powers only speak the language of confrontation and unilateralism but it is also a world where millions of people are taking to the streets to protest against corruption or to demanding not democratic change the world needs our leadership more than ever to keep and gaging with the world as responsible power to force for peace and for as a to change. show our power is at the united nations that they can rely on the church in. all ism queen as straight at the little things that we share in common we say if we wish. and we
take. women ain t. ours. and we also share the same destiny without transatlantic partners yes we have issues with out annie doubt but our ties have lost at the test of time while we are speaking thousands of students researchers entrepreneurs artists continue to build zillions of friendships business contacts and science projects these myriad of fine threads vo run together make a bond that is stronger than any individual point of discord countries from the east to west from south to north need europe to be a true part. we can be the shapers of
a better global order this is europe s vocation and it s what european citizens want and i am happy to have such an experienced diplomat as joseph but rather on our team working alongside with you to a lot of people and all of you had better hayley and janice lennart szeged they will do an invaluable job to gather we will invest in alliances and coalitions to advance our values we will promote and protect europe s interest through open and fair trade will strengthen our partners through cooperation because strom partners make europe strong to my commission will not be afraid to speak the language of confidence but it will be our way the european will the way this is the geo political commission that i have in mind and
that europe urgently needs. honorable members if there s one area the word needs our leadership. it is on protecting our climate this is an it and existential issue for europe and for the world how can it not be existential when i 85 percent of people in extreme poverty live in the 20 countries most vulnerable to climate change. how can it not be extension when we see venice underwater portugal s forest on fire least one year s harvest cut by half because of droughts this has happened before without any question but never with that frequency and with that intensity and we do not have
a moment to waste anymore on fighting climate change thanks. to. the faster europe moves. the greater the advantage will be for our citizens our competitiveness and our prosperity the european green deal is a must for the health of our planet and our people and for our economy runs to months is the right person to make this happen thank you. and i and i m delighted that he will be supported by cadbury simson. and many others the european green deal is our new growth strategy it will help us cut
emissions while creating jobs at the core of it will be in the industrial strategy that enables our business big and small to innovate and to develop new technologies while creating new markets we will be global standard settles this is our competitive advantage and it s the best way to ensure a level playing field. but all of this has to serve the european people they want and expect europe to act on climate and environment but they also need affordable clean and secure energy they need to be skilled to work on the jobs of tomorrow they need to commute to these new jobs or to be connected from home and we have to make sure that those needs are fulfilled in a sustainable way it is a generational transition towards climate neutrality by mid century but this
transition must be just and inclusive or it will not happen at all. it will need massive investment and then ovation research infrastructure housing and the training of people it will require public and private investments at their european and at national levels and once again europe is already leading the way the european union will mainstream climate financing throughout its budget but also throughout capital markets and the entire investment chain in regions that will have to make a bigger step than most we will support people and businesses with a targeted just transition mechanism it would have to cross
a different funds and instruments and attract private investment we need to help us achieve this the european investment bank will be a trusted partner i m happy particularly happy that the progress it has made to strengthen its role as european climate bank is obvious. this will boost investment in european technologies and solutions the world is looking for but there is more to do we only account for approximately 9 percent of the global emissions we have to bring the world with us and this is already happening from china to crawl to canada through to california other so working with us on their own emission trading system. and full holguin will ensure that
our future trade agreements include a chapter on sustainable development because we know climate change is about all of us we have the duty to act and the power to elite thank. minded i m one tell me. they detected why they should make things possible just a generation ago unthinkable. communicating with each other worldwide access to information for its progress in medicine protecting the environment mobility and inclusion there is no future without digitalisation. this margaret avesta is the one who will be bringing years further along this route .
give it in 10 days we will ultimately time is the tasks that are difficult for as human beings for example carrying have heavy weight or repetitive tasks whether we re in factories or sitting at a desk but it is and that has a good side. will give of time aside time for doing the things that. specific to human beings and computers cannot do that empathy and creativity. care robots for example can help make beds digitalisation can help with administrative tasks but always with the same objective the idea is that care staff should get to do what s really important which is talking to patients and being there for them. digitalization will make it possible for us to be more effective and more efficient in our use of resources because we ll be able to control various
aspects with precision water consumption energy the valuable resources of our planet yes digitalisation. will transform our society our economy and our administration and is doing so already. if we are to seize the huge opportunities and also address the risks we have to get the right balance and do so where the market does not manage to do so. we have to protect our european prosperity but also our values we have to take our own european path even in the digital age but what we want to do in practice. yes we have to manage the technologies and keep them in europe to do that we ve got to think about quantum computing artificial intelligence block jane and critical
chip technology if we re going to be able to do that to close the gaps that are out there at the moment. we have. to work on our strengths let s bundle our resources let s bring together our money our research capacity our knowledge that implement them in practice that s what we did back in the age of the supercomputer. but then. europe is one of the well or rather right now europe is acquiring one of the most powerful computers in the world the next generation of supercomputers has to be built by us. but europe has got all those scientists and industrial capacity to be competitive in these fields. let s not talk ourselves down. we should not be talked down by others or talk ourselves down innovation

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an unfree thanks is that for your company series of a scan that takes a fat out and bites and then. cut. to the church of the famous naturalist and explorer. to some liberation comics on the funny boards 250 miles they were embarking on a voyage of discovery. expedition voyage on t.w.a. .
in southern california the sun rises over san diego bay. next to a major road in this parking lot 54 year old maria begins her day. st louis went to bed and. this car is her husband. this is every day. this routine about stretching my bad. rian no longer has a place to live she s been sleeping in have done for a year now. looks pretty nice you don t you don t feel it doesn t seem that you live here but they do i have seen people with their cars so messy and things all over the place. how can i
go to work with my life like that i mean has to have a little order you know because this is what we need to continue it is not perfect but it s. the way i won and it makes me feel better. just like maria around 30 other people sleep overnight in their cars in this free parking lots never the less most of them work they are security guards drivers secretaries or even computer technicians. maria is a clean and a camera exhausting work that she does 7 days a week. to provide some comfort for all these people and organization has supplied them with a water point political toilets and
a small outdoor kitchen women rhea prepares him morning coffee before going to work . this kind of would. be the key to. a very famous in the united states. marine is full from grace is a situation that affects thousands of other americans for a long time she had everything she always wanted. she was married and lived in this beautiful house. after 5 years of living together a blissful marriage suddenly fell upon us. he could adopt me dump me is ok it didn t work but by ok bye bye see ya later there s a what no i don t have no. no bad no no furniture or no house. it s just my car i have
a seat here. and. yeah that s the way it is. maria preferred to leave everything to her ex-husband and turn over a new leaf. over the last several years in california the cost of rent has risen so much that her salary the equivalent of $1500.00 euros was not enough for her to afford an apartment. maria s just one of many middle class americans who have in recent years fallen into poverty. officially america is great again since the 2008 crisis the economy has never been stronger with record breaking growth and unemployment has dropped to a historical low less than 4 percent. an upturn for which donald trump has claimed all the credit. there has never been
a better choice just start living the american dream but despite what the president claims the famous american dream is far from being achieved 40000000 people are living below the poverty line and millions of workers will go to great lengths to stay above it. if i knew they would get if i did that for sure becoming homeless overnight is what these americans fear most because here the system is not very kind to those short of cash. or you re going to have a drug in the possession forget you and get addicted in some states being laced on your rent is no laughing matter. one by one tenants are affected at gun point where. people are saying. to these americans on the verge of ruin seeking medical treatment can cost a fortune. and take your medicine to theirs you may not get one of the other.
so some people are standing up in solidarity making sure they re taking care of free of charge in field hospitals not unlike those found. in a country of will. and insight into the lives of those who cannot scrape a living in the hearts of days to choose america. san diego in southern california $300.00 days of sunshine a year and beaches as far as the eye can see. this is picture postcard california san diego is also one of the most dynamic says he s in the country here unemployment is practically nonexistent this dream lifestyle was once an everyday reality for eric he was a successful computer engineer owning 7000 euros a month today 53 years old this man lives alone in his car.
and in order to eat for free he has made an arrangement with the star for to put syria. hello. how are you today. yes. thank you. if you take you know that these are the slices that have a nervous foyer but they haven t for too long and they put them in the fridge for me so that they donate them. to see what. every comes every evening to pick up some leftover pizza thank you very much very much ok. he s going to share these unsold slices with other victims of poverty because for a year and a half eric has been sleeping in this parking lot the one women really are the cleaner also lives his pits the deliveries make his neighbors very happy.
likely rela a 55 year old driver that s right. now we re hungry. you know no no i had a crime on the living. in his former life and rick also worked a lot 50 hours a week. but 4 years ago he suffered a burnout and also problems with his heart he could not work and received unemployment benefits was 6 months and then nothing at all. like you and i thought it would just. for now for some layers you know the list was going furniture my savings. but i ended up. basically burning through everything and what can afford to stay in a farm and. eric is trying to pick himself up nowadays is doing temporary work and
just saving up to be able to rent an apartment. after her long day at work maria s back. to her. yeah it s where i work it s a little hard. i have to lift a lady she s very had. back and forth back and. 9 hours it. is it s a lot of hours but i m ok. thirsty my food my bed i m ready to jump in my bit. counts. at half past 9 at night the gates closed from this point onward no more cars can enter the parking lots at night there isn t a security guard they haven t been any attacks here to date but maria doesn t take
any chances. i close the door put the window down like this my. and plea deal are you somebody is trying to break in i will know i come by pepper spray. and my head might cut or some a trying to break in such a spray. because. you never know. a few meters away eric is getting ready to spend another night in his car even though it s full to the brim the former computer engineer will sleep sitting behind the wheel it s a world away from the comforts of his old life. one thing that i ve really found out about this is that you know the typical stereotype of. you know the homeless person being lazy and not wanting to work or being a drug addict. there may be the case in some places and some and some but the
people i ve come to in this program most of my very hard working people that want to get ahead that have either have some some health issues or have some how to trick about luck or for whatever reason. they ve you know come into this is this this situation some people are able to get out of it quickly some people they re stronger. california is a state of stark contrasts despite being the 5th largest economy in the world a growing number of its workers can no longer afford a place to live. but there is another state where the system is even more unforgiving. that state is virginia right next to washington d.c. . its capital richmond is a former industrial city here a quarter of the population live beneath the poverty threshold.
of the 10 major cities with the highest rates of eviction in the country how are located in virginia in richmond alone around $3000.00 tenants are forced out of their homes every year. the vixens a routine job for office a loyal from the sheriff s office several times a week he distributes the dreaded yellow notices. in the state of virginia. the law is strict if the rent is late by 5 days the landlord has the right to begin the eviction process. to threaten tenants have one week to settle their debts otherwise they face eviction by force and officer loyal does not show much sympathy. this morning he and his colleagues have to evict the residents of this house.
yes. and just like when arresting a dangerous criminal. they enter the home with a gun straw on. the tenant is not currently at home and clearly they have not had time to vacate the premises. there s no you re ok. as with the landlord he immediately reclaim his property she receives i m checking the windows or. to make sure there is a secure. the tenant has arrived and is in shock she had been renting the house was 7 he is a single mother 2 grown up daughters she works but has frequently struggled to make ends meet she has to pick up her belongings the next day otherwise everything will go to the junk yard at her expense is just going to be easy on you like to be
headquarters in a back yard or whatever if you have a removed because if he has a token we remove it that s an added expense that you d be looking at yes i mean that s when i do think all this is off you i think it s hard not to got to do we ve gotta do what i gotta do what i gotta do what are you going to sleep where am i going to sleep if you can the whole thing about me. yeah. yeah thank you have a good day she s immediately rendered homeless no room for negotiation she moves. that s up to her if that s the only way she said she would move before this didn t move. maybe she had nowhere to go. you know she never did say that to me.
they will rebound tenney vixens just like this one every day in richmond. as a consequence of this fast track justice budget hotels on the outskirts of the city have become a refuge for those who ve been kicked out of their homes. some people stay there for a very long time among them is david a 38 year old gardener. was going anywhere. saying i m also a new day. david has lived in this motel since his eviction 2 years ago at the weekend the divorced fathers children come to stay over in his one room home which cost him $1300.00 euros a month. this is my own this is our bedroom living. family are everywhere and this is the little kitchen which i cooked or eggs last night made hamburgers and clean the dishes or you know we played video games and.
you know got a shower but that s about all. during the week david shares the single room which is packed with household utensils and personal possessions with his new partner. he did more to follow suit for 2 years here no more cramped you know like obviously if you put 2 people in the same room for a long enough time it s theirs you know bump heads and have arguments and stuff his girlfriend has a stable job in the insurance business they could buy a bigger and less expensive apartment yet they remain trapped in this tiny room because their past eviction continues to haunt them. but at the time she was she was trying that 1st and when you get so be down by going to places and stuff in them they re not giving you a place because they re like oh you know. it s you know shows that you didn t pay
just like 2 months or something like that and it definitely was detrimental to you know there was no way of getting anywhere. it s almost unthinkable in many parts of the world but here landlords are able to access the past of bad tenants with a few simple clicks a systematic surveillance system that has been denounced by martin vic bright a lawyer and defense attorney for tenants. so. this database is a public database and anyone can go onto this database and look at it and you can search by name so try a common a common american name or we get america less speed ok. there we go and you can see 5 on lawful detainers let s see 10 years ago this tenant had a series of late payments despite being small amounts in this case under 300 done
his they can have grave consequences so if i m a landlord i can look at that and say well that was 10 years ago but i think she s too much of a risk i don t want to rent to her if anything bad happens to you whether it s you know you get your hours cut back at work whether or you break an ankle when you re off work for a month whether you got that car repair bill or that hospital bill or any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. you are catching up real quick or you re going to have a judgment of possession against you and get addicted so the trend it really is living under the sword of damocles. david is far from an isolated case 6300 people are a victim across the us every day in the city finding accommodation is the chief source of anxiety but this is the region where for some the main worry is simply
being able to put food on the table. welcome to rural america the appalachian mountains region that spans several states in the eastern part of the country. appalachian was once widely known for its coal production these days almost all of the mines are. it s often said that the american dream got lost somewhere along the way here. the appalachian region with a predominantly white population is home to some of the poorest counties in the entire country. during the summer at lunchtime this food truck travels up and down the
disadvantaged areas of roanoke. blues and stacey are 2 volunteers who give out free meals to children. they serve up to 200 meals a day and every time they arrive they re eagerly awaited on today s menu a sandwich a carton of milk and a kiwi. you are us in this family both parents are unemployed they receive $1200.00 euros of welfare a month but as a family of 5 it s barely enough to live on well. try to get in that way street 3 but towards the end of the month when the stench from. maybe 101 of the cargo hold no feeling of them are the one of the morning when i usually skip work was to watch and. watch and then i am. on if you know yet only by. being put to the point of starving you know more or they don t mark that they.
this reality is nothing new in the appalachian region. during his $964.00 election campaign lyndon b. johnson visited appalachian and was horrified by the poverty his soul after his reelection he launched a master plan to put an end to poverty. here and now requires are some very no war on poverty in america i one of his ideas was to create food stamps coupons given free of charge to the poor. to this day the government distributes these food stamps to 40000000 american people. in this mobile home park in the heart of appalachian the majority of families benefit from this food aid. with the american flag hanging from the front
steps this is the mobile home of 58 year olds iranian collins a foeman marine so rainy and no longer works following a long term illness she receives a pension of 700 euros. she faces a daily struggle to get by and her financial difficulties have gotten worse since she took in her niece jennifer s an unemployed single mother who has 3 children to take care of. leah lindsey and jane. fortunately jennifer receives food stamps. are a must on the forests they. are corn how many kids you have in your income they put in so much on there and i get every month on the 1st $646.00 just basically just for food. $560.00 euros a month to feed 5 people
a tight budget before going shopping the 2 women check the balance on their card. yes every. day or. so renia and jennifer can spend their food coupons in any supermarkets like this discount store where they regularly go shopping. once at the checkout the food stamp card works just like any other credit card. in this store an appellation they are by no means the only ones who use one. of many people for instance here. and probably have people at home and it s a picture it s a lot yeah yeah. thank you donald trump plans to cut down on the amount of food stamp recipients critics say that risks making an already vulnerable society even poorer for. it.
but ironically here they voted 80 percent in favor of trump and their support for him continues seemingly unabated to an invisible extra cash so iranian does household chores for him nay this. for a few dollars she also cuts james s head she works in a mine and is a loyal trump follower i am from france. what have you done it was a city that. you know crop is willing to help other countries but it s got to work . and that s why i have now. gone from the billionaire. family every word to go is children who were with. you a lot about a person. that unwavering support can be difficult to understand for outside is
because since trance election every day life for individuals in appalachian. has not improved poverty is pervasive him and has led to some strange developments. in the middle of the night in this small town dozens of cars interest showground. the world of good run if you will for my home. i suggest that you be back here about 3 or 4. well i try to chip shop because imagine thank you so it s there by far not what you call a concert to get there just to keep you keep your boat or something you know. what these people are gathering for here on this is simply to see a doctor because every year here for a weekend all you re going to get and this one is medical on my a nonprofit organization and ranges free consultations out there is the future name on a lot of their families in this area are. veterans of the working class families
struggling to choose between paying for medicine that can save their life or you know groceries for the week so. it s a shame to have to do it this way but you ve got to take care you people in these are our people and this is why we take care of our people. even though the health care system improved under the previous president barack obama 28000000 americans remain without any insurance coverage so i really am has arrived with her family who needs jennifer and her 3 children they all need to see the dentist medical fees in the u.s. so the most expensive in the world and an affordable for a large section of the population so staying up all night seems like a small price to pay in your struggle to of a medical assistant yeah it s not easy. but you have to do it
absolutely the alternatives. margaret. i have to. the family arrived the night before because here the rule is 1st come 1st served at 6 o clock in the morning the doors open the organizers call our patients by their number one priority service. we re going to go or we ll try to your next door we ll call a group of 20 year career all right. once inside the patients find themselves in a full scale field hospital images reminiscent of a humanitarian disaster and yet this is modern day america. here people are treated in turn by host of volunteers nurses family doctors but also specialists who are able to treat more complicated illnesses. the most remarkable part takes place in the sports hall transformed into
a gigantic dental care facility. all day long 60 dentist scale drill filled and removed teeth. as she surveys the scene so renia is overcome with emotion. beautiful all the people volunteering and so many people getting help that need it. the former sister passed away. she had over 38 taken out and she didn t have 85 and she was younger than i am now and she was my older sister so. i think about what she went through with health issues because of her to. their important. oh my gosh. and that she ll be seen to by
a young student soon to complete his medical degree before treating so rania has had time to familiarize himself with the job for you know there are many times to extract the course right. i was right about 52 to go to get us up here so she was. here yeah it s pretty good yeah yeah. he will spend a quarter of an hour removing some rainiest tooth his 16th of the day. you feel. like i have a big mouth. but there s no time to take a breather here said rainey and now proceeds to the locker rooms i doubt i was around back here because this is a bad day where i m thankful for everything i had dental pers this is studio like the rest of the temporary facility it s run by volunteers and funded by donations.
that help way have relaxed lives last. thursday patients have dental impressions made in this room and next to a new set of teeth is created in less than 2 hours. so renia can look forward to showing off a new smile. little girl was a little. off worn but ok here. was my god what do you think you are graves wolpert 2 you. know your wall. that was. our big smile out there were burnt out. but i m. here to take you.
you have known that i can. smile and you know that. well i want to remember. you yes. if the family had paid for all this treatment it would have cost them over $3000.00. but fortunately in the united states there are people personally taking action to help those in need. on the other side of the country a man has embarked upon a mission to combat the poverty that has plagued the sidewalks of his city a place usually associated with the rich and famous rather than the down and out just this is los angeles are saying to us in hollywood. 38 year old elvis is appalled at how conditions in l.a.
have continued to deteriorate in recent years. it s not a 3rd world country it s one of the richest countries in the world it s almost like a movie prop it on it s hard to fathom that like every single day this is how people live. in. los angeles the sprawling city of angels and the glamorous house of hollywood cinema. and yet today it is the homeless capital of america. here in the last few years the number of people without a home has increased from 33259000 in the shadows of the city s skyline is the dark side of the california dream. when i was a kid and lived here it was nothing like it is now i left for almost 2 decades and i came back a few years ago and it just it just blows my mind it s just going to increase
because every month the cost of everything keeps going up there s no regulation so . apartment owners and landlords can raise the money you know the rent. whenever they like but nobody s paychecks are getting bigger. outraged by the growing destitution of us gave up his job as a sales assistant. he lives on the salary of his partner who works at a university in this way all of us can devote all his time to helping those less fortunate. a little further from downtown a woman has moved in beneath this bridge elvis and leah regularly pay her ever sit . down caney has been living here for 5 years in a small tent that she shares with another woman. they desperately vulnerable to the
dangers of the street and have already been assaulted several times. but just look at everywhere they did they just tore right open and. now she doesn t even have a door and she sleeps out here at night there s also no light right there so it s very dark and you know especially as a woman that s pretty scary even if the guy has been staring at the boy walked up the dark one friday and do whatever they want. to help these people always wants to do more than just bring them bottles of water. his main project is hidden away in the yard if this church. he came up with the idea to build small wooden houses for the homeless. a very small but inside office and leo had thought of every last thing to improve the daily lives of these people.
when the wrong yes. so if someone tries to open a window if the alarm of. this right here allows people to sleep when people sleep they can think they can do better they feel better they want better the house is also equipped with a fire alarm a light and a phone charger all of which are powered by a solar panel. each cabin costs the equivalent of a 1000 euros financed by donations collected on line. but elvis is well meaning initiative it s illegal the mayor of los angeles has banned him from installing his cabins on the sidewalks of the city. will carry on regardless. this morning he s delivering one of them to a homeless couple who very much need it.
i am just nice to me bro me brownie. krista s the 32 year old and his 3 months pregnant she lives on the curb of the sidewalk with a tray. i was i was hoping you were going to. be. full for years now the couple have been sleeping in this tiny cot that is a health hazard on wheels. me to eat meals eat me alive. everything. mostly not being able to have good hygiene. elvis can t hang around. the trick is to get this. get this done and off before the cops show up. the tiny house weighs 400 kilograms. but his project does not make everyone happy once you go back in your house and enjoy the air conditioning a neighbor expresses her discontent. she s against this what she
says she doesn t want in front of her house she s calling the police and so we need to hurry alarm and well pray that they are allowed to keep their house. this is how it goes. in los angeles. yeah. but i think you know lots of both of you congratulations. a few days after filming the police threaten to destroy the cabin unless elvis removed it. he and the couple manage to move it onto privately owned land in the end the disgruntled neighbor got her way. but we find people elsewhere trying to challenge the ostracization of homeless people in rather inventive ways. next stop is texas and the conservative city of waco. it has around 50
churches serving its 120000 residents here once a month a religious community organizers a curious program. people come from all over the united states to take parts. of if you. do overs are open for you not really knowing you know the origin of little what what you know what god we re going to be having that for 24 hours these high school students are going to live eat and sleep in a role playing scenario much like 20 or so other participants all from middle class backgrounds each of them has paid 60 euros to participate. jenna darrelle came up with the idea 25 years ago with her husband a pastor the remarkable simulation project has so far had 30000 participants.
the goal is to create compassionate care for humanity and poverty everybody can get the american dream but when you re trapped in poverty in the cycles of poverty you have to think that way to get you. if there s a janitor around says in order to truly experience the life of a homeless person you have to start by looking like them in the secondhand store participants are encouraged to dress in appropriate clothes jeans and be. a little bit. but i think that he would take me to his office and i. know that i m happy about. right now it doesn t seem like too much of a challenge but things are going to get more complicated with the 2nd stage sleeping out in the open not in the streets but in a secured fenced off yont 53 year old marsha however is slightly concerned like
you i m scared. i m scared of bugs she thought long and hard before signing up it was a husband who convinced her to take part so. it doesn t look like a real illness situation quite right yet just melike do it doesn t smell like here and it s not brad running everywhere yeah no this is definitely a luxury oh. yeah yeah. the fact that is a comfort nonetheless although it won t be a very long night. d the morning everyone at 6 o clock the next day janet to roll gives everyone a wake up call and they don t look particularly well rested my mind martha. it s not real on this situation to say they re saving them being on the street but this is not as safe as being in their home with their family so it just gives them
a little bit more reality of what living in the environment does on your body so by tonight takes about 24 hours to really start getting the idea that. this this could be really rough. for the next stage of the program the participants are sent to downtown waco they tell us today is to find something to eat on their own and without any money. if you smell the food. so. should i said i asked this guy. who. cannot be the face of a restaurant. like in many other cities in the us begging as a punishable offense it s also forbidden to rummage through garbage bins others suffered in their. property and reclaiming anything at all from them is considered
stealing in order to survive the homeless in waco are therefore forced to break the law. to participants are not going to find anything to eat and after 2 hours of walking the streets in 40 degrees heat most it feels faint. she calls her husband to pick her up. left feel like i feel like i m too weak like i don t care i m so like i m too old and fat i can t do it you learn something about. what life would be like to be almost. up every heart. is the u.s. truly ready to face up to poverty while the president claims america has never been so great 40000000 of transpire citizens are still course in the clutches of poverty
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love interaction and sometimes you don t have a hero bottle provided that s great they re going to replace people in manufacturing and they re going to replace doctors and lawyers they re going to replace people in jobs you wouldn t think they can if all the work is being done by machines what are humans do they try and keep getting better and better patient and take them more and more advanced jobs or do they end up doing other things making art having social interactions with each other are we going to have enough humanity to make it possible for everyone or some people are going to say i want everything and the rest you guys have to be for and die that allows individuals to discover their humanity they have to learn a new meaning for life and new things to do that s a social revolution and hopefully we can move too slowly.

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the big . this is the news coming to you live from berlin and the united nations climate summit opens in madrid. do we really want to be remembered for generations after the bird you having to stranded. people while the granted for the birds. that s all saving the earth by aiming for calm when you can achieve by 2050 says the u.n. secretary general until you re good ted is also coming up. in just a driving
a car look at the case of a saudi woman still in prison long after the band was lifted on women behind the wheel. and children whose coalition partners on collision course for social democrats elected new leaders who want to change their coalition to live on the left as conservatives can have government survives. on the touch of a good to have you with us. we begin in madrid there delegates from almost 200 countries have begun a 2 week climate summit amid a growing sense of crisis negotiators are tossed but i mean out there zeus for implementing the 2015 paris climate accord that s when countries agreed to limit global warming to less than 2 degrees celsius above pre-industrial temperatures but
will it be another case of too little too late and during his opening remarks the u.n. secretary general antonio the terrace called on delegates to goad action as the outline 2 very different visions for our future have a listen by the end of the coming decades we will be on one of 2 paths when is the path of 3rd round where we have 3 baulked past the point of no return job providing the health and safety of everyone on this planet do we really want to be remembered as the generation that birdie having to stand there. while the planet burns the other option is the path of hope oppressive resolve of sustainable solutions a press where more fossil fuels remain where they should be in the ground and where we are on the way to carbon neutrality by 2050. and that was the un secretary
general antonio good 10 is speaking at the opening of the climate conference and before we discuss what the summit can achieve let s take a look at the challenges facing delegates in the grid. there is no sign of a slowdown in greenhouse gases concentrations in the atmosphere let alone a decline that is according to a recent study by the united nations if this trend continues experts say the result will be disastrous future generations will be confronted with even higher temperatures droughts floods storms and wildfires will become more severe and more frequent. after a year of protests the pressure on governments is mounting scientists are also urging governments to act they say that countries should increase their carbon reduction ambitions in order to prevent an even more catastrophic outcome i want.
at the top of the climate conference agenda as a global emissions trading system it would allow countries that exceed their self set emissions reduction target to sell a right to emit some claim the system could create incentives to further reduce emissions. joining me now in the studio. she s a reporter with signs and environment desk welcome you is now under put indicated it s time for urgent action what can we expect from the summit which is just got underway in madrid well the motto this year is actually time for action but realistically they re not really ready yet they still have to finish the rulebook which will govern how the past agreement will be implemented. fix is going to be dealing with the carbon markets and that has been particularly contentious so it s not even clear that they will get through that by the end of this year but they also have to look at raising their ambition at the moment the countries of set pledges that would not take us to a 2 degree rise in temperature but more like
a 3 degrees rise in temperature which is just too high so still to be done and this often at these summits a blame game that emerges what do you see as the most critical challenges well the biggest challenge is political will i mean is there enough do they actually want to reduce carbon emissions enough so the island nations of issued a plea to developed industrialised countries to to ask them to do that i mean these countries are the island nations are the lowest of metals and yet they re feeling the impacts of climate change most another issue like i said is the carbon markets so that is particularly controversial environmentalist argue that carbon markets aren t going to help at all and that it takes away from the idea of the parts agreement to just reduce carbon dioxide emissions and there s this this argument that s going to take place negotiations and we ll see what comes out of. the united
states has pulled onto the cold but china is still in and china is an absolute terms the biggest emitter off carbon dioxide emissions is it taking enough action do you think well china is one of the countries that is going to meet its target. possibly early so that is something that s obviously positive from them they re also the largest developer of renewal energy in the world so there is definitely something in their favor but the problem is that their targets are just too low and if they continue the way that they re going we re still going to see that global temperature rise they are also investing in coal plants in china but also outside of china so that s also an issue and recent months seen these for ideas for future movement we ve seen what. impact she seems to have galvanized the young people were getting impatient with the lack of action on climate change how do you see this playing into this debate well governments
a feeling the pressure they can now see that after millions of use and people from all over the world taking to the streets in september and then hundreds of thousands again this friday just gone they can see that they re going to be held to account for for the emissions that they are they re still working on. the. young people are also going to be growing up that the next generation to be voting so they really have to take action so that they will you know get further with the the young people coming through but it s going to be there so she will also be talking i guess we can expect a speech that s quite similar to what she did in new york so that is going to put pressure on governments as well. to be heading to the madrid summits look forward to hearing from you from there is one from the disk a pleasure to talk to you. let me now bring you up to date on the stories making news around the bonds more than 70000 people have
fled their homes as the philippines braces for a powerful typhoon to make landfall and officials of evacuees goes to the areas for cost as a war on the typhoon camuti could bring widespread damage flooding and landslides. intense clashes between syrian regime forces unarmed groups have reportedly claimed almost $100.00 lives on both sides activists say fighting around the last option opposition stronghold of it is the most violent since a russian brokered cease fire went into effect in this. china as an unsanctioned on american and suspending visits to hong kong by u.s. naval ships and minutes after the retaliatory measures come after the territories for democracy movement got a boost from human rights legislation signed by president donald trump last week.
she s been described as one of the most influential women in the activism blazed to create for female empowerment in saudi arabia yet you jane has been languishing in prison for 2 year as an unspecified charges she s not alone even as saudi women won basic freedoms to drive and to travel many of the female activists who. remain without trial. families hoping international pressure. and joining me now. is. joins me now and she s been following co story welcome i of what more can you tell us about in case well it s safe to say that jane is one of the most prominent women before front of. the rights for women whether it has been the dismantling of the male guardianship system which has largely rendered saudi women as 2nd class citizens putting unbelievable
restrictions on their lives and essentially leaving all major decisions in their lives to the men within their families sometimes even the sun she s also the forefront of the campaign to allow saudi women to drive she rose to prominence in 201320145 the. videos of herself on social media where she s actually defying the ban on driving as we re seeing right now this is video of her 2014 as she was crossing the border from from the united arab emirates into saudi arabia where she was arrested and put under arrest for about 73 days fast forward to 2017 by road decree saudi arabia actually friendly lifts the ban with hopefully with it coming into effect in about a year later in june 28th. few weeks before she before she would have been able to see her dream become a reality she along with other prominent activists such as. you said were arrested
and you know it s been almost 2 years like you said she s languishing in prison her family alleges that she was electrocuted water boarded and sexually harassed in detention tell me more talking diet kind of. like symptoms that she s facing in prison what can you tell what a family saying about the conditions in prison well her family has really been campaigning internationally for her release i recently had the chance to speak with her sister nina and have new here in berlin and this is what she told me about the latest in her sister s case so the charges of. everything that she has done about her activism so. everything that. for her activism. i think. it s very difficult to say but i would say. anyone to have an opinion and to speak their opinion they want everything to come.
to be bottom up what conditions would you know. started in march of this year but since they stopped everything so. what s going to happen. since april she s in solitary confinement other than this we have. we talk the talk to my parents talk to her but what s going to happen we have nothing at all and she doesn t know what s happening you know anything about her condition she being treated well is she being mistreated how is she doing. i think compared to the times where she was being tortured she is a bit. better. so it s very confinement is torture i think so i don t think it s a good situation. so this is. a concern as her sister told you the
moment been the conference has been kind of. the image of implementing some kind of reforms yet nothing has really changed for people at usually that s true i mean i think there are 2 things that one must separate here there are the reforms the state of reforms in saudi arabia and the state freedoms if we will if one can even separate them in terms of reforms that this is true the crown prince mohammed bin someone who is the de facto leader of saudi arabia has been implementing a lot of social reforms the drive lifting the driving ban is one of them using the restrictions on the interactions of the sexes in public women s attire the partial gradual dismantling of the male guardianship system such as women s ability to travel without the permission of the male guardian that s one thing on the other and these are all to compliment the economic vision the vision 2030 of saudi arabia bringing saudi arabia into the 21st century then there s the state of freedoms and there it s a slightly different story we see in the you know the brutal murder of saudi journalist in the saudi embassy in istanbul and the example of the female.
activists who are still in prison so it seems that while the you know the saudi government is ready to give reforms these are all top down reforms and perhaps there isn t the same openness for an open discussion about these reforms both she and jane were welcoming of these reforms but. but they were not given the chance to unfortunately critique them or or live them even org if it back on them so i think these are 2 separate things that are growing in saudi arabia reforms are one thing freedoms are another one is one is on the go the other not so much i have been thank you very much for sharing your insights on the story with us today not to demean our reach has the highest rate of but slices it in 6 in the european union as many as 4 in 5 babies born by c. section in some hospitals critics say that s due to corruption in the head 7 says doctors make more money from this is in than from natural births. when
little aryan goes down the slide his father s always there to catch him at the bottom his mother mana well it can only watch because of the syrian section she had when she gave birth to him that nearly killed her. the doctor decided to take this section and i don t know what has happened but something room has happened because their respective we have to. be ahead for surgeries ever since manuel as started talking to the press about her experience many women have contacted her to share their stories doctors often insist on performing cis ariens on a well as doctor came into the clinic after hours apparently slightly drunk although the operation went badly he insisted she give him the traditional cash gift yes i think it s about the money when you go to hospital you need money from the nurses the entrance of the hospital can get into the hospital this is.
a natural birth cost 300 euros but for a syrian you have to slip the doctor up to 1000 euros. at the clinic no one wanted to be interviewed here like everywhere in romania the government has raised salaries for medical personnel over the last year but still 80 percent of births are ceasar ians. is a midwife she has to meet patients in a café if she wants to explain the advantages of natural birth she lost her job in a clinic after contradicting doctors who insisted on a c section i m sure that. it is because i want my doctor knows me and. my medical file. bribery is so common in romania s medical system that the government is clamping down and auditing facilities much more but even the health minister at mit s it s
not enough. recently we had to close a birth station because of the risk of infection and. the employees were against it . it was right before christmas they had 60 says syria lined up and needed the money. little aryan doesn t know why his mother can never pick him up but man a well it is glad she can at least kiss him it means she survived. you re watching video of news coming up ahead. and we re not going to get the cars real soon now and conduct a modest young sons he s died at the age of 76. but 1st the future of german chancellor angela merkel s government isn t after a coalition thought now the social democrats elected to new leaders who are very
critical of the partnerships they ve indicated they want to see major changes that raises the prospect the coalition may collapse and result either in an early election or a minority government. the social democrats have cast doubt on the future of the grand coalition but their partners in that coalition the christian democrats are attempting to shrug off any such suggestion for on a great calm column by our it s business as usual. see if you who is the c.d.u. one thing is clear we re going to stand by this coalition on the basis of what we ve already negotiated. and we want to get back down to work quickly. but the new s.p.d. leaders norbit votto boy yarns and saskia s. can are critical of the political partnership they have new demands on the minimum wage pensions and the climate that they want to be met. and thus mr this is not possible if this is blocked then the party conference will have to think about how
to overcome these differences for those policy is the most important thing is what will decide whether this coalition has a future there is in the s.p.d. want to prevent that party debate from happening. this was all about a person no change in b.s.p. day and it doesn t necessarily mean that the party is going to rethink its policy is. that the trade unions are urging the s.p.d. not to abandon the grand coalition. tree is in great need of modernization. we need an ambitious program of investment that is something this government must tackle in the 2nd half of its tenure. next week the social democrats will decide which of their demands will be tied to the survival of the grand coalition. for more on the story i m joined by detail these political
correspondent kate brady at up alimentary studios welcome guess how much of a crisis is this could these developments to the collapse of the german government . it certainly looks like the possibility of the social democrats withdrawing from the so-called grand coalition with anger americans conservatives is looking more likely of course the many members of the social democrats weren t particularly keen on forming yet another grand coalition with merkel s conservatives after the 27000 elections which has always meant that there hasn t really been a full sense of a united sense behind the idea of continuing this this government that said now we ll have to look towards later this week when the social democrats are set to gather at their annual party conference and that might give us a more indication of what the new leadership now plans to do of course we ve already heard that they want to renegotiate that coalition deal which has been
blocked completely by the cd you right now we just heard from the leader of the city and a click from current power she said that renegotiating that deal is completely off the cards so then that would be the question of whether or not the s.p.d. would be willing indeed to withdraw from this coalition deal which then could as as we heard leads to early elections of course the elections were planned for 2021 or could even see germany with a minority government for a short time period as well and get this uncertainty comes at the worst possible time for the e.u. it s trying to negotiate bragg s it also for germany which prepares to take over the rotating presidency of the e.u. . exactly the last thing that the e.u. needs a woman s right now is yet another political crisis and of course for a long time germany has been held up as quite a beacon of stability in the european union and of course as well it is your biggest economy so for a long time the e.u.
has looked to germany 1st sense of stability in times of crisis of as you mentioned we ve got the with the brics it coming up ois planned to come up at least by the end of january that said though there might well be some parts of the european union not least of all in neighboring friends where a shake up in german political might well be welcomed as of course a collapse of the government might bring in a new government which would in turn like push forward perhaps some better plans for climate protection and even better increased spending for the european union which would certainly be music to the ears of the french president manuel michael kidd pretty dubious little correspondent thank you very much. and in other news the french military has reached that age of the bodies of a soldiers killed in a helicopter collision in mali 13 troops died in the crash during
a counterterrorism operation against islamist militants it was the heaviest single loss for the french army in almost 40 years. mexican officials say the death toll from a battle between drug cartel gunmen and police has risen to 20 gang member station military style assault on a minnesota building and every year you on your own near the texas border 14 attackers were killed during the hour long shootout. a sad news from the world of music the renowned latvian conductor modesty on songs has died in st petersburg he was $76.00 he conducted some of the world s leading orchestras including the royal khan said cabal in amsterdam at the time of his demise he was the chief conductor of the bavarian radio symphony orchestra. a life devoted to music with passion and humility. once try to emotionally shape
sound right down to the tiniest detail here performing beethoven in tokyo young friends was born in 1943 in riga latvia was occupied by the nazis his father was a violinist and conductor his mother an opera singer be encouraged destiny s musical talent. he called me saw or made the roof and they got me to move in this direction without putting me under pressure so reasons and be. like a ray of sun that says go this way this is the song. from studied violin piano and conducting in leningrad in vienna his big breakthrough came when he won the 1971 carry on competition. in berlin he later worked in oslo pittsburgh and amsterdam in 2003 he became chief conductor of the bavarian radio symphony orchestra in munich. as i m 101 and he s someone who really
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available for hospital patients across the uk. more than a thousand flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled, as fears grow of a fresh coronavirus outbreak. ed s the day football fans have been waiting for. the premier league restarts after three months away. waiting for. the premier league restarts after three months awaylj am live at the etihad stadium as manchester city prepared to take on arsenal, albeit from behind closed doors. sleepwalking into a cashless society. as a new scheme launches, we ll hear the concerns of the woman in charge of making access to cash easier for communities that struggle to get money in the palm of their hands. good morning. we ve had a lot of low cloud, mist, and fog roll in from the north sea overnight. it will burn back to the coast where it will lingerfor burn back to the coast where it will linger for some burn back to the coast where it will lingerfor some bring the burn back to the coast where it will linger for some bring the day. burn back to the coast where it will lingerfor some bring the day. for most it is a dry, bright, sunny start during the day. as temperatures rise those thunderstorms will get going once again. i will have all the details at 27 minutes past. good morning. busy programme for you this morning. it s wednesday the 17th ofjune. our top story: the footballer marcus rashford has vowed to continue speaking up for disadvantaged families after he successfully campaigned for children in england to continue receiving free school meals over the summer. the manchester united and england star said he was shocked and grateful that his campaign, which he talked about exclusively on breakfast, prompted a government u turn. john mcmanus reports. the premier league s about to resume but marcus rashford has already scored a major goal that s got more than just football fans are setting up than just football fans are setting up and taking notice. he s open letter calling for free school meal vouchers in england to be continued over the summer holidays was a skilful piece of footwork that forced the government to concede. more than1 forced the government to concede. more than 1 million children will benefit. at the man united player was characteristically modest as he spoke exclusively to bbc breakfast. that must make you feel like you have achieved an incredible thing? yes, yes, it s a nice feeling. but i mjust yes, yes, it s a nice feeling. but i m just not happy that, you know, people s lives and people s summers, especially, will be changed for the better. that was the important thing that i d try to change going into it. last week, the prime minister was still insisting he wouldn t change his mind over the meal vouchers. but by yesterday boris johnson appeared to have thought again. i talked to marcus rashford today and congratulated him on his campaign which, to be honest, they only became aware of very recently, today. and i thank you for what is done. why do think it s right that we should be looking after families of the most vulnerable, the neediest, right now. labour s welcomed the change of heart. neediest, right now. labour s welcomed the change of heartm neediest, right now. labour s welcomed the change of heart. it was obvious that there was a need for this free school meals. they should never have put that in jeopardy. we had to push them all the way. but marcus rashford played a really important part in that. so far, marcus rashford seems to have avoided all the usual criticism that sportsday should stay out politics, mainly by insisting that this wasn t about politics. among those lending in the support, gary lineker, who said it was great to see manchester united s number 10 changing policy at numberio, united s number 10 changing policy at number 10, extraordinary campaign and went for the brilliant marcus rashford. rival city congratulated rashford. rival city congratulated rashford. and olympic gold medallist denise lewis told him he had accomplished so much, but this was a beautiful thing. this doesn t appear to be the end of his campaign though. you achieve this incredible thing in such a short space of time. you have a platform. what s next? i think, obviously, this is only going to be successful throughout the summer to be successful throughout the summer period and then, you know, we ve bought ourselves an extra six weeks of time there to figure out what s next and how we keep taking steps forward, because they don t wa nt steps forward, because they don t want it to be, don t want this to be the end of it, you know, because there are definitely more steps that need to be taken and so we just need to analyse the response. john mcmanus, bbc news. three things a pickup that, just that little chat, sally was chatting to marcus last night and we will talk to later in the programme stop one, great slippers. ithought talk to later in the programme stop one, great slippers. i thought you might like the slippers. i ve approved greatly. they are co mforta ble. approved greatly. they are comfortable. two, he is so humble, so comfortable. two, he is so humble, so understated. any support he has got across the board, from rivals is about being a good guy.|j got across the board, from rivals is about being a good guy. i think he is shocked by the response. and his mum is so proud of him. three, thunder was coming down, cats and dogs when sally was doing that interview, the sun was shining on marcus rashford. i am that slippers we re marcus rashford. i am that slippers were your number one. our political correspondent nick eardleyjoins us now from westminster. nick, i m sure you appreciate the slippers as well. what was interesting was the press conference yesterday, borisjohnson came in talking about dexamethasone. this is the transformative drug, but you look at the front pages this morning, marcus rashford is on there and this u turn. morning, marcus rashford is on there and this u-turn. yeah, absolutely. and it looks like sally s original interview with marcus rashford was pretty important in the prime minister s decision making. i hear that he watched it yesterday morning before the big meeting he has with his inner team where they discuss the coronavirus response. then he had cabinet and it was early afternoon that we political journalists were told there had been theirs u turn and they were now going to find these free school meals for kids in england over the summer meals for kids in england over the summer holidays. the prime minister also brought up that interview in his call with marcus rashford last night. so it has clearly had a big impact on boris johnson. night. so it has clearly had a big impact on borisjohnson. what happens now is if you are an eligible child in england you will get a six week voucher which will last you the summer holidays. there will be similar schemes in scotland and wales and we think there will be one in northern ireland as well. there are trying to figure out where the money comes from at the moment. using different pages morning, obviously marcus rashford had a really big impact in this. yesterday, things started to change as well, because labour were really on the front foot on this with the government. there are a lot of conservative politicians who were really u nco mforta ble conservative politicians who were really uncomfortable with the way the government was trying to defend the government was trying to defend the policy of not funding these free school meals. it has raised a few questions about the prime minister s judgement and why they didn t get on top of this earlier. but absolutely a big win for marcus rashford. i ve got to say, as well as is slippers i was jealous of his garden, so well kept. it was mine like that. you know what, all you have done now is cast aspersions on your own gardening abilities and the state of your garden. it is later. thanks very much, nick. i love the way we are getting into the meaty issues this morning, slippers, gardening. we ll be speaking to the health secretary, matt hancock, at 7:30. iam not i am not sure slippers will come up. obviously mentioning the marcus rashford news, but something else we re talking about this morning. a breakthrough drug which has been proven to help the most severely affected coronavirus patients is being dispensed across the uk. the steroid, called dexamethasone, is cheap, widely available, and has been used in britain since the 1960s. research led by oxford university found that it cuts the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. this is a result that can save lives tomorrow, during the course of the next week, immediately in all parts of the world. the second thing is, from a sort of science point of view and giving us hope for the future, which is it s the first time we ve had a treatment that improves survival. and that offers the hope that there will be other drugs that will produce further improvements beyond that to. will produce further improvements beyond that to. more than 1000 flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled by chinese officials as they try to contain a fresh outbreak of coronavirus in the city. schools have been ordered to close and residents have been urged not to leave the capital, which had previously gone 50 days without any local transmission of covid i9. the latest cases are linked to a wholesale food market. brazil has reported a record number of new coronavirus cases over the past 2a hours nearly 35,000. the country, second only to the us in the number of infections and deaths, is on course to register a million cases by the end of the week. more than 16,000 people in brazil have died with the disease. the met office has issued further yellow weather warnings for thunderstorms this afternoon, after heavy rain and lightning struck parts of the uk yesterday. these pictures show heavy rain in manchester last night and lightening near birmingham. warnings are in place from midday today until nine this evening, with the possibility of further flooding and disruption to road networks. carol will have more on that later. i loved the thunderstorms last night. you are one of those. stand out in the rain type person. three children, two love it. how about the dog? she is ok. a bit too dopey to realise. it s been exactly 100 days since premier league football was suspended because of the coronavirus pandemic and today it s back, but it will look and feel very different. how are you feeling, dan? it will be strange. i m glad they will finish it. hopefully it is all safe and that side is taken care of. so long as that is fine it s ok. premier league football is was suspended because of the pandemic. it will look and feel very different. no supporters will be allowed inside stadiums and all 92 matches are being broadcast live on television. jane s at manchester city s etihad stadium for us this morning to look ahead to the restart. good morning to you, jane. good morning. it has been such a long wait, hasn t it? imagine the logistics that have been involved in ensuring the premier league s project restart gets off without a hitch and, of course, safely. here at the etihad manchester city will host arsenal later on tonight. the earlier kick off is that villa park we re earlier kick off is that villa park were aston villa will take on sheffield united. those matches, as you mentioned, are going to have a very, very different look and feel to them in orderfor very, very different look and feel to them in order for them to very, very different look and feel to them in orderfor them to go ahead. just imagine the logistics of enduring this stadium is a safer two different teams to play when social distancing isn t going to be able to actually happen on the pitch. here at the etihad it has been deep cleaned inside and pitch side and since training resumed, under the premier league s protocol, players have been tested twice a week for coronavirus. at the training ground there has even been a testing station for players to undergo as they arrive. and when they have arrived for training they have been seen arrived for training they have been seen by the club doc for temperature checks and a health questionnaire while in their cars and when they have left they have to put on gloves and masks as well while walking around, there are sprayed instructions on the ground saying you must go this way, you cannot go this way, so they can familiarise themselves with where they can and cannot go. so don t forget, though, that both managers are acutely aware of how m porten safety measures are. mikel arteta was diagnosed with having coronavirus at the start of the pandemic in britain how important. and pep guardiola s mother very sadly passed away after being diagnosed with coronavirus as well. as you mentioned, there itself, no fans there, it means that when there are celebrations plays can t celebrate with each other but there will be a specific camera they can celebrate into to try and interact with the fans. so very different but i think everyone is relieved that football is back in some form or other. indeed, jane, thank you so much. what i m thinking now is how do they practise the faces when they do their celebrations to the camera? that is the most important thing. slippers and faces. the most important things. we can talk to sally now. sally, it s been a rather eventful two days since your interview with marcus rashford was broadcast. he is changing policy at number 10. what a remarkable days it has been for him. a few days it has been for him. and you spoke again to him last night. yes. my feel a bit shellshocked by the way can only imagine how marcus rashford this morning was not well, they know how he feels because we were around at his house last night to get his reaction to the u turn. wasn t it an interesting development of events? niggardly was taking you through it a short time ago. we were very, very to speak to marcus rashford many months ago when he got involved in a literacy campaign that we were working on and again when he wanted to talk about the situation with free school meals, was with him late on sunday night. just put it into a little bit of conscience, is less than week since he tweeted the words does anybody know how to talk to somebody about free school meals? so to be the place where we are now is really rather incredible. as i said, i went to catch up with him last night. this is what he had to say. when you heard the news, how surprised were you? when you heard the news, how surprised were you ?|j when you heard the news, how surprised were you? i was obviously, obviously shocked. it s a big decision for someone to make and i m just grateful that the prime minister did change his decision and, you know, he understood and i spoke to him earlier on today and thanked him for that and, yeah, it was a nice conversation to have with him and we understood each other. how did that chat go? and does he phone up and say, hi, marcus, it s boris? no, he wasjust obviously saying thank you for using what i ve sort of built in a positive manner and, you know, sort ofjust thanking each other really, because he didn t have to do what he did and neither did i. so he wasjust grateful that someone did i. so he wasjust grateful that someone had basically had an opinion and shared it with people and, you know, just been that voice for people that didn t really have the platform to speak out as much as they would have liked to. are you aware that the way borisjohnson was informed about your campaign was he was actually played the interview that we did the other night? yeah, he mentioned that on the phone. and he mentioned that on the phone. and he just he mentioned that on the phone. and hejust said he mentioned that on the phone. and he just said that s what sort of moved him, really, because he probably understood it a little bit more, hearing it from someone, rather than just reading it or hearing about it. so i think that was obviously a key factor to in his decision. that must make you feel like you ve achieved an incredible thing. it s a nice feeling, but i m just more happy that people s lives and people s summers are going to be changed for the better. that was the important thing that i try to change going into it. and, you know, coming at the end of it now it s something that it s obviously a proud moment. your mum, obviously, we talked at length about your mum the other night. what has she said to you about the decision? she s rang me about the decision? she s rang me about ten times today. no, is just very happy. and, you know, if someone, very happy. and, you know, if someone, when she was going through it, if someone had spoke out about it, if someone had spoke out about it then maybe the situation would have been different and i think sisters happy that now people who are going through it, people are aware of that now and they are going to try and help them as much as they can. so she s happy that, you know, we are taking steps in the right direction. and when you started this campaign, think it was only five days ago, who were you thinking of? were you thinking of your family or we re just were you thinking of your family or we rejust thinking of were you thinking of your family or we re just thinking of the families of fans? who was it in your mind? just, obviously the area is a drop in, inu a lot of different people and a lot of different families would still be going through it now a no. it s not so much about my family anymore, because obviously this situation has changed. an eye just don t want people to go through the same thing. so it s just important to understand the place that i ve come from and my background and it s quite simple, really, that the reason why i would try to help people who are in that situation. you now have a really powerful voice. you ve achieved this incredible thing in such a short space of time. you have a platform, a lot of attention focused on you. what is your next focus? now you ve done this, what s next?” what is your next focus? now you ve done this, what s next? i think it, obviously, this is only going to be successful throughout the summer period. you know, we bought ourselves an extra six weeks of time there to sort of plan and figure out what s next and how we keep taking steps forward because they don t wa nt steps forward because they don t want it to be, i don t want this to be the end of it, you know, because there are definitely more steps that need to be taken. so we just need to analyse the response and things like data and these types of topics are very important and, like i said before, something that i wasn t aware of beforehand and now that i am aware of that will definitely be watching that closely and just seeing the response and how people cope with the situation, how it changes their lives for the better all the problems they might face with the system. so there s a lot of things that could change in the future and beyond this campaign. but, you know, we will have to just see how it affects everyone. watching the news today, i know there has been a political storm about what marcus rashford has been talking about but last night, and his house, with his family, it was a really simple, simple story. marcus is one of five, and they alljust wa nted is one of five, and they alljust wanted to do something to help kids who have been in similar situations to them all those years ago. they have set up a website, people can e mail them with their stories, perhaps the kids going hungry, having problems at school. i know they are overwhelmed with the response they have had already and they really, really care about what they really, really care about what they are doing and you had marcus mention data and i think that is something we will hear more about. getting everybody‘s stories and doing something with that, something positive. an incredible, incredible 22 year old foot taller and he was wearing slippers and i asked if he wa nted wearing slippers and i asked if he wanted to change and he said, no, it doesn t matter. he is comfortable in his sleep is and he has received a lot of praise for the campaign and the way he has kept going with them. slippers. and the praise that means the most to him is the praise from his mum. he is a good boy, and obviously rose very well. his mum, mel, is a huge part of his life. if you go around to his house, she is that a lot of the time. she is a hugely influential and the person he most hugely influential and the person he m ost wa nted hugely influential and the person he most wanted to impress. interesting matt hancock asking foot dollars to do their part. footballers. we shall be speaking to him later on. and the full interview at ten past eight this morning. the interesting point about marcus has said, if you are hungry, you cannot concentrate, you cannot get on with anything. kids going to school without food in their bellies, of course, they are not going to get things done. he was that kid ten years ago. let s take a look at today s front pages: the metro celebrates what it calls an extra time u turn for marcus rashford, after the government said it would now provide school meal vouchers for children in england during the summer break. back of the net, declares the daily mirror as it celebrates both victory for marcus rashford s campaign, and the return of premier league football. the back page of the times leads with another campaign by a high profile footballer. manchester city s raheem sterling is calling for the government to ensure there is more black representation on the boards of sport s governing bodies, including the fa. bbc sport and on the bbc sport website you can find out all you need to know about the premier league returning today, including what time the matches start and how you can watch them. i asked you if you were excited about the football. ian has been in touch and he said that i have been pleased that we have had no football. there are people who feel that way. also, during the lockdown, i was speaking to lots of managers and footballers and many were raising legitimate concerns about health issues around the nation and forfamilies. i health issues around the nation and for families. i spoke to an arsenal manager who contracted coronavirus and was ill with it and for him he said, when the government made a decision about football coming back, thatis decision about football coming back, that is fine but for him the priority was keeping his family safe, making sure the players were doing what they needed to do and he said, looking back now, that have been huge benefits for him spending time with his family, doing the homeschooling and he has really enjoyed. yesterday, we spoke to patrick hutchinson and i asked him the question, we had him and his lovely daughters, and asked him if the man he carried out had been in touch? i look at the papers at. this is the man, a millwall fan. he was carried away from the melee by patrick. this is the photograph that went around everyone. we spoke to patrick and his two lovely daughters yesterday on the programme and they have not spoken to the man himself but they did speak to his son and his son said, he has a black eye and askedif his son said, he has a black eye and asked if his dad would want to thank patrick, he probably would, who wouldn t. somebody else said hopefully he should grow up and act his age. they have not spoken to the man himself but that is him.“ you re watching, i hope you are, and you re watching, i hope you are, and you are recovering getting well and if you want to talk to us, get in contact. good morning timing people. we are talking to sean this morning about cash. i have some cash in my purse. i have barely used. are you excited about football? because i know you are a big fan of wolves.|j am excited about them. i go to my football with mum and it is just exciting to get back to her house and watching the football. not being in the grounds is not quite the same. her shout the loudest? i am nice and quiet. cash, sean, cash. that awkward moment you may have experienced, you may be placing cash down, taking a step back, it feels like it has all been changed but actually, when we look at the trend and the amount of cash we re using, even coronavirus, we were moving towards this idea of contact less payment. just under a quarter of all payments were made using cash and that has been getting lower. fast forward to lockdown, cash withdrawals from atms down by 60% and, of course, lots of reasons for that. people being stuck at home, getting other people to do their shopping and businesses have changed haswell. as well. shopping and businesses have changed haswell. as well. anything that is passed between customers and our team and back out to customers causes a risk and it is something we wanted removed. ithink causes a risk and it is something we wanted removed. i think customers find more convenient, the click and collect service. there is no queue, ido collect service. there is no queue, i do not have to go to the bank for change. my books at the end of the week are simple as well. and no chance of theft or robbery. we took £2 ten last week because we did not wa nt £2 ten last week because we did not want to see someone go hungry but would not handling cash. an example, andrew looking to go contact less cash but still there are people who do need to use that money and so there is an access for cash review and it has been ongoing looking at those communities around the uk, particularly, struggling to axis cash. 8 million people still need to use that cash and the consumer group, which?, use that cash and the consumer group, which? , have use that cash and the consumer group, which?, have been looking at the number of people who have been using cash throughout lockdown and they found one in ten people could only use cash trying to buy essential items in shops and were refuse. that is showing how some businesses, predominantly for safety reasons, have gone contact less, but people are still relying on it. some worry this might speed up the process of us becoming a cashless society. without doubt, the covid-19 pandemic has put the cash structure at greater risk than even before. it costs money to run atms and branch branches and if people are not using a lot of cash, the economics did not work. if you less than 10,000 pounds a year, you are 15 times more likely to use cash. cash is still better to budget with. we know lots of people who rely on friends, carers or volunteers who do not want to hand over a volunteers who do not want to hand overa card. i volunteers who do not want to hand over a card. i think fast asleep walking into becoming a cashless society the challenge is, how do we bring everyone with us? a few pilots lodging around the country in eight different locations, bespoke for communities improving internet connections in certain areas, having new atms, and maybe places where you can deposit your cash, whether you area can deposit your cash, whether you are a business or a member of a household and everybody can do that at the same place and you do not need your specific bank branch stop and also digital scales, getting people to feel more confident about going on line and banking. there is a bit ofa going on line and banking. there is a bit of a battle going on between those who want to get towards contact less and those who still need to use their money in the palm of their hands. we re late for carol now. but thank you very much. you so cannot blame that on sean! the timing people are getting us down. and now everybody is going to get upset with everybody. do you see the theme, carol? you showed it to me this morning. lizzie is having a nightmare. this morning, we have a cloudy start to the day and for the next few days will have that cloud rolling in from the north sea through the course of the night and will do so for the next few days. study spells, afternoon thunderstorm, some of which will be important. still that sticky field. show was already in the west. low cloud that rolled in from the north sea across scotland and eastern parts of england, that will move towards closed later the afternoon. the stash the coast. northern ireland, a fairly cloudy day. showers across wales, south west england, the south east and down towards kent. some of those will be torrential, some will have thunder and hail embedded in them. if you catch on, you will know all about it as you have done in the last few days. as we head through the evening and overnight, eventually we will start to lose a lot of the showers. one or two start to lose a lot of the showers. one ortwo hanging start to lose a lot of the showers. one or two hanging around. low cloud coming in from the north sea and at the same time a weather front bringing him some rain across east anglia, the midlands and also lincolnshire. it is not going to be a cold night but a humid one. tomorrow, we start off with this rain. slowly moving northwards. all the cloud around as well which will start to burn back towards the coast. scotland, one or two showers, same for northern ireland. as you go for the afternoon, look at all the showers developing across the midlands, wales, east anglia and southern counties of england. they will be slow moving, hardly any wind around and we re looking at torrential downpours. we could have 40-50 torrential downpours. we could have 40 50 millimetres in just torrential downpours. we could have 40 50 millimetres injust three hours, up to two inches in three hours. a yellow warning out and it could lead to some localised flooding. if you re doing anything outdoors tomorrow, do bear that in mind. temperature was, similarto what we have had. 15 21 but we could hit 2a in the sunshine in western scotland. back to you and, of course, i was teasing about being incandescent, not at all. i will never recover. that is absolutely your angry face. hands on hips, i love it. only carol smiles when she is angry. let us sell you what is coming up on the programme this morning. tell you. we ll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning the premier league season re starts today. we ll be live at manchester city in a few minutes, but it s manchester united s marcus rashford who has scored a victory in his campaign to make sure that hungry children are fed throughout the summer. he launched that campaign here on breakfast on monday and you can hear his full reaction to the government s u turn at 8:10. it s cheap, readily available and has been in use since the 1960s. now the steroid dexamethasone is being hailed as the biggest breakthrough yet in the treatment of coronavirus. we ll talk to a covid patient who believes the drug saved her life. and if you ve gained a few pounds during the lockdown, you might be wondering how to start shedding them. we ve sentjohn maguire to meet a personal trainer and to learn how a trip to the gym might look when they re finally allowed to re open. do you ever get that nervous point where you wonder if i m going to ask your question about the last thing we spoke about? no, what you want to know? how has your gym workout been going throughout lockdown? can you not tell?! laughter i could hardly get into this suit with the size of these guns. are you fit or less fit? there are two ca m ps are you fit or less fit? there are two camps now. i am as i was, i think. as perfect as ever. you said that, not me. the footballer marcus rashford has said he is shocked and grateful after his campaign prompted the government to extend free school meal vouchers over the summer holidays. the prime minister made a u turn on the scheme after watching brea kfast‘s exclusive interview with the manchester united and england striker. around 1.3 million children in england will be eligible for the vouchers, which are worth £15 per week. a breakthrough drug which has been proven to help the most severely affected coronavirus patients is being dispensed in hospitals across the uk. the steroid, called dexamethasone, is cheap, widely available, and has been used in britain since the 1960s. research led by oxford university found that it cuts the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators. more than 1,000 flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled by chinese officials as they try to contain a fresh outbreak of coronavirus in the city. schools have been ordered to close and residents have been urged not to leave the capital, which had previously gone 50 days without any local transmission of covid 19. the latest cases are linked to a wholesale food market. 6:35. is that time when we have the surgery 6:35. is that time when we have the surgery open. i m ready! we won t be examining your guns. which way is the beach, by the way. oh dear! i m joking! it is 6:30am. he is not. as we ve been hearing, there s been a major break through in the treatment of people with severe coronavirus symptoms. we can get more on that now as we check in with one of our breakfast gps. today we re joined by dr fari ahmad, who is in cheshire. it was really interesting when we saw the press conference yesterday, borisjohnson was hosting night and he was very enthusiastic. he spoke with his medical advisors about what this means for patients who are in hospital on ventilators. how does it work? i think everybody is very excited about it. since we have had coronavirus, the pandemic happening, people have been trying lots of drugs to see what is effective and some that we thought were great, but it has not worked out. so this is i think one of the first ones where people who are more severely affected by coronavirus, so people who need to be on ventilators or people who need oxygen, when they are given this drug they seem to recover. so there are more people who survive. so they gave this drug toa group who survive. so they gave this drug to a group of people and competitive people who didn t have the drug and they saw a definite difference and that s what prompted them to then roll it out to everybody. sorry to interrupt. what does it actually do to the body? what is it of the body do? so dexamethasone is a steroid. we have been using steroids for a long time and this is one of those old drugs. we know it helps reduce inflammation and the idea about how people think it could be working is that when people are severely affected by coronavirus your own immune system is very activated. there is a huge inflammatory response and there is some suggestion that this is helping dampening down to allow people to recover quicker. you will have spoken to lots of people who have concerns at the moment and one group of those people are those who are shielding because they have underlying health conditions are deemed more vulnerable while we are suffering with this outbreak of this pandemic. there has been some relaxation when it comes to shielding and those who are shielding and those who are shielding are allowed to exercise now, once a day. there are reports and speculation about when that will be further in for those who are shielding. what evidence do they need to feel comfortable that they are not as vulnerable, say, in a couple of weeks as they are today? yeah, that s a very good question. we are hoping we would get some guidance from the government and hoping when they give the guidance they will give us reasons why they are dropping, you know, the shielding advice. so i think shielding advice. so i think shielding covers a group of people with a variety of conditions. it doesn t really come you know, have the sensitivity to say you know, if you have this and this you shouldn t be doing this. some shielding people, when they heard that they could have one hour of exercise, that was great. some of them were getting in touch saying that menai can go back to work as mac there we re can go back to work as mac there were others who were very worried saying they still do not feel it s safe to go out. so we have had to deal with some of that. and i think would be really useful to know, the government are going to update us about this, but it would be useful to hear why they have decided to reduce, as the levels of coronavirus are dropping, that would probably make it a bit safer. but it needs to bea make it a bit safer. but it needs to be a little bit, it needs to have some substance to it. substance is important. we are speaking to matt hancock, the health secretary, later this morning was not made with that in. you will be aware about marcus rashford bothma campaign to make sure that school meal vouchers over the summer holidays are provided and the summer holidays are provided and the government does make you turn on this yesterday. it brings up the question, that if you are hungry you can t concentrate, if you can t concentrate you can t concentrate in school. we know that as adults doing ourjobs. in terms of mental health for those who have been struggling financially, just generally worried about their families, how important is this? because you are interacting all the time with people with these concerns. it certainly helps address one element of it. so there are some families were, you know, because the children managed to get a good meal at school, that is the one good meal they have. and we have known for a long time that over the summer these families, these people do struggle when that is not available, so this is good news. the pandemic has caused lots of stress for lots of people, so people who are on low incomes, who are struggling, there are some people who have lost their jobs and now suddenly have to deal with a whole new reality, while in lockdown, how they will get a different job, lockdown, how they will get a differentjob, how they lockdown, how they will get a different job, how they will function, you know, people have been struggle with ugly paying their rent or their mortgages. it has caused a little bit of a wave of mental health, almost as an army of mental health, almost as an army of mental health, almost as an army of mental health issues that we are now encountering in our daily conversations with people. and sometimes is quite how to deal with because the usual places we would ask people to get help from aren t quite ready or up and running or available for face to face interaction. so it is a struggle at the moment. what is your day involved today? we would like to us because you talk to us before you begina because you talk to us before you begin a day s work. yes, so, today i m managing, begin a day s work. yes, so, today i m managing, i m doing a few things. i m not having to go in until later into the surgery, so i m here. then i started be later on. so most of our days are spent, we do a lot of telephone, we do a lot of video consultations. then we see people, when we need to we bring them in. we also spending time reorganising how we will work, making sure we have got the two metre distancing in our waiting rooms and having to think about things like how are we going to manage to give everyone the flu vaccination this year. and with all this talk of coronavirus, that is something we haven t spoken about. next time we speak we will speak about how you have figured that out. have a good day. thank you so much for talking to us, dr fari ahmad. have a good day. thank you so much for talking to us, dr fari ahmadlj do enjoy our gp appointment at 6:30 every morning. it is hard to get them these days. the premier league should be done and dusted by now. instead it s just about to re start after 100 days off. jane s at the etihad stadium, where manchester city will host arsenal behind closed doors. it s been a long time coming, jane. as naga has been saying this morning, people are feeling slightly different lee about the return of football today. yeah, hasn t it been such a long week especially for football fans? differently. everyone will have felt things being very strange in these times are strange. but tonight the premier league will resume after 100 days since we last saw much action. two games, as you mentioned, from behind closed doors, manchester city will ta ke closed doors, manchester city will take on arsenal in the later match at the etihad. a few hours earlier aston villa host sheffield united at villa park. those matches will look very different from the norm. the biggest difference is no fans will be watching in these stadiums. joe lyns key looks be watching in these stadiums. joe lynskey looks ahead to these matters. matches. lynskey looks ahead to these matters. matches. it won t sound all look the same but this is football s silver lining. tonight the premier league restarting empty grounds. in aston villa, some fans will be projected on a screen. those watching at home, it s not football s full experience, but for sport in a pandemic it s the only way. for those of us who do regularly go to matches does feel strange, because, as they said, it s such a social thing. you know, you go to the match, you meet up with your mates. people know who haven t missed games in 30 years. think for the likes of them is going to be really strange. it s100 days since england s last top flight match. the season shut down at speed as covid took hold. it took clubs more than two months to agree how to finish it, but now teams will travel for home and away games. and this sport remains cautious. the players are not fully, fully fit. but we have to start, we have to finish the season. you asked me how the team? i don t know. we will see. how is the level of the team ? know. we will see. how is the level of the team? after the waiting things could happen quickly. if a city lose tonight, liverpool could win the league on saturday. whether it s winning the title or fighting relegation, the premier league still has much to resolve in this much quite a new world. joe lynskey, bbc news. it has been deep cleaned inside in preparation for this first match back for manchester city. place have had to be tested twice a week and they have set up a testing station to the training ground opposite the stadium and every morning they have been seeing the club doctor to make sure they are not showing any symptoms. they have had to wear masks when they get out of cars. in the players have had an 11 aside practice match so they can familiarise themselves with where they can and cannot go, following science, one way systems and, of course, social distancing changing room. don t forget also both managers will be acutely aware how important managers will be acutely aware how im porta nt safety managers will be acutely aware how important safety managers are, the arsenal manager had coronavirus and pep guardiola very sadly his mother passed away after testing positive for covid 19 in spain so they are going to ensure that every safety measure that has to be taken will be taken. for the measure that has to be taken will be ta ken. for the match measure that has to be taken will be taken. for the match itself, no fans watching from inside the stadium but there have been discussions as to when that will be allowed to happen sometime in the future, of course. there will also be big screens with fa ns there will also be big screens with fans zooming in so i feel for when a goal is god but if it is god, none of the players will be allowed to celebrate together, it will be a social distance celebration. goal. but players will not be allowed to crowd around any decisions for any infringements. for the first 12 matches, players will not have their names on the back of their shirts but they will have black lives matter ‘s in a tribute to george floyd. an any player who chooses to take on before any matches will be supported. football is back if in a different way. matches will be supported. football is back if in a different waylj matches will be supported. football is back if in a different way. i do not think some of those things are bad things. i certainly will not miss look at you laughing miss the players creating around the referees. good, they are not allowed. good, it will be back. maybe this will be a good learning experience. maybe. the players names will also be notably absent from their shirts. for the first 12 matches, all players names will be replaced by the slogan ‘black lives matter‘ in a show of support for the global protests sparked by the death in police custody of george floyd. it is one of the things that will be different. breakfast‘s graham satchell has been talking to three players about their experiences of racism, both on and off the pitch. evenif even if the area i live in, you do get looked at differently. the whole team was upset. it is not the greatest but we have learned to deal with that and at times you don t even notice it. three watford place, one in the first team, one in the ladies and one in the academy and their experience of racism in this country today. as a young black boy, i have grown up to adapt. people shouting racial slurs down the street, it happens every day but it is the racial bias, getting pulled over by the police for no reason, being followed around the shop, all sorts of things that happen on a day to day basis, it is not a cce pta ble day to day basis, it is not acceptable but i havejust learned to adapt in somebody else s world. acceptable but i havejust learned to adapt in somebody else s worldlj was brought here from england and i thought i was as much a part of this country as anyone else but i get treated differently. automatically i am profiled because of my name. it is not an english name but i am english. but i will be put on a different title. we told the ref about something that happened but he seemed to dismiss it. we felt vulnerable. i still feel frustrated and upset that someone could go out of their way to be spiteful. the struggle against racism has been ongoing. from top to bottom, things need to change. i feel like finally we might actually have something to really go and push for a really push for change. the push for change has seen for change. the push for change has seen protests around the world and went to the premier league starts again today, players will wear shirts with black lives matter on the back. they will also take the knee. it is a solemn protest against all forms of racism. as marcus rashford has shown in recent days, football has a unique power in this country to influence and affect change. what marcus and people like troy are doing, having that lives matter on the back of your shirt, the more you see something, the more you the more you see something, the more you pay the more you see something, the more you pay attention to it and the more you pay attention to it and the more you spark an interest and i think thatis you spark an interest and i think that is what needs to be done, to spark an interest. it is notjust in america there is a problem happens, it is in this country and we cannot be blind to it. watford they have worked hard, planning changes to the curriculum and if this is a moment of change, then football is playing its part. graham satchell, bbc news. really interesting. it is not an issue that will be ignored and it is great that people are speaking as well. if you ve gained a bit of weight in the last three month, perhaps developed a pair of lockdown love handles, then john maguire might have some tips for you. have you? i willjust check, no, have you? iwilljust check, no, i haven t. he s in bristol to see how the fitness industry is adapting to the new rules on covid safety. you are looking in amazing shape. what someone called me awry note the other day and i have not forgotten that. reflecting the city skyline here but it is also an outdoor gym. a couple of exercise groups. going through their paces because they have not been able to go to the gym. different rules across the uk but the first chance probably not until july four and that is what many of them are preparing for. they have covid secure action plans in place. fitness is big business and gymnasiums and fitness centres are desperate to hope. some in europe have already reopened after creating covid a safe blueprint. we have been developing new hygiene and disinfection protocols, the same level as nhs, nonclinical settings. we have done work with air conditioning and the separation of people to make sure that the risks are absolutely minimal from working inside one of our dreams. call it an opportunity, a curse or a blessing but physical and mental health may now prove more important than ever. let doctor marcus jones. let doctor marcusjones. keep working you guys. let s talk to. you were employed by a gym but what has been happening with you?” you were employed by a gym but what has been happening with you? i only started with personal training with everything started going downhill so it has forced me to do things like on line training and, personally, i have been using instagram very much every day. i host and stream live every day. i host and stream live every day. i host and stream live every day and it has forced most pt to see how you can work. i also think it has shown how important the gym is a two people notjust for the exercising but so they have somewhere to go. some people really use them as therapy, a bit of community so, obviously, although we wa nt community so, obviously, although we want everything to be safe, i am looking forward to things opening again. but things have been going well, it has been manageable so far. let me go and interrupt verity, she s doing some press up. marcus s wife. has roped you in. you have miss going to the gym?” wife. has roped you in. you have miss going to the gym? i usually go toa miss going to the gym? i usually go to a three times a week. sorry, i am out of breath. it isn t really that habit. leaving work and going straight to the gym knowing a will get that exercise but actually this has been a good substitute for that andl has been a good substitute for that and i do not feel like i have lost any fitness during lockdown which is fantastic. what about motivation? a lot of people have found it difficult to get out and about especially because they are most confident within a gym environment. i think routine is more important than activation. 20 30 40 minutes is more important. when it is something this easy, we are not using any equipment, we can do it in a space this big. it could be achievable for everybody. thank you very much, good to see you working ha rd very much, good to see you working hard this morning. verity mentioned equipment and thinking about the dumbbells, 15 kg each. i tried to pick one of those up and i almost put my back out so maybe you have to know your limitations. maybe start with five kilograms and woke your way up, john. stretching it. get the big 20s out, mr mcguire. look at him, he is an animal. i did some filming ina him, he is an animal. i did some filming in a rugby gym and they had 70 kg dumbbells. absolutely enormous. that is ridiculous. good for them. there have been some incredible pictures of last night s lightning. this is from david johnson in ely and look at this dramatic image from laura in the west midlands. that scares me when it is near electricity. and this one is from stephen in stoke i bet there is no technical term for that one. but i will ask carol. tha nkfully that one. but i will ask carol. thankfully we have the experts. did you like the technical description? it got the message across so well done to you both. not all of us saw the lightning but if you did it was accompanied by rain which was torrential. we will see more of that but first thing this morning, a lot of fog around, low cloud and mist as well. he had to we have fog and it will be with us for a wee while yet. this is east yorkshire. today, the mist and fog will burn away to the coast and then it is sunshine and heavy thundery downpours that you can expect. a fairly cloudy start this morning, again that low cloud, mist and fog, but there is some sunshine, as we saw withjohn in the store. already show was in the west and, ifanything, store. already show was in the west and, if anything, we will see more as we go through the day. eastern and central scotland seen some sunshine. northern ireland, north west england, one or two showers. the midlands, is languor, down towards kent it is south coast those could be torrential showers. if you catch run, you will know all about it. but they are showers so not all of us will see them. through this evening and overnight, we hang onto that showers for a time and eventually they start to fade and cloud, mist and fog ross mcewan from the north sea and a weather front coming in bringing rain across istanbul, the midlands stop it is not going to be a cold night. across east anglia. tomorrow we start off with this rain. cloud coming on short through the course of the night, pushing back towards the north sea coastline. sunny skies in scotland and northern ireland. here, still a lot of heavy, thundery, slow moving downpours. to give you an idea, the met office has a weather warning out. 40 50 millimetres of rain could fall in the just three hours. millimetres of rain could fall in thejust three hours. that millimetres of rain could fall in the just three hours. that is up to two inches so a lot of surface wash which could lead to localised flooding. temperature wise, similar to today, 15 22. the headlines are next. good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. our headlines today: a mother s pride. manchester united and england star marcus rashford on the family support that changed government policy on free school meals she s rang me about ten times a day. no, she s just just very happy. and, you know, if someone, when she was going through it, if someone had spoke out then maybe this situation would have been different. in an exclusive interview with breakfast, he says the fight isnt over and he wants the policy changed permanently. the biggest breakthrough in the fight against coronavirus so far, a steroid drug is now available for hospital patients across the uk. more than a thousand flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled, as fears grow of a fresh coronavirus outbreak. and s the day football fans have been waiting for. the premier league restarts after hundred days away. i am live as manchester city prepared to ta ke am live as manchester city prepared to take on arsenal, albeit from behind closed doors. good morning. it s wednesday the 17th ofjune. our top story: the footballer marcus rashford says he wants to do more to help those in need after winning a battle to extend free school meals for children in england, so they won t go hungry during the summer holidays. it wasn t just a battle. it wasn tjust a battle. it it wasn t just a battle. it was a monumentalfight it wasn t just a battle. it was a monumental fight and he won. the manchester united and england star said he was shocked and grateful that his campaign, which he talked about exclusively on breakfast, prompted a government u turn. john mcmanus reports. the premier league s about to resume, but marcus rashford has already scored a major goal that s got more than just football fans sitting up and taking notice. his open letter calling for free school meal vouchers in england to be continued over the summer holidays was a skilful piece of footwork that forced the government to concede. more than 1 million children will benefit. but the man united player was characteristically modest as he spoke exclusively to bbc breakfast. that must make you feel like you ve achieved an incredible thing? yeah, it s a nice feeling. but i m just more happy that, you know, people s lives and people s summers, especially, will be changed for the better. that was the important thing that i tried to change going into it. last week, the prime minister was still insisting he wouldn t change his mind over the meal vouchers. but by yesterday boris johnson appeared to have thought again. i talked to marcus rashford today and congratulated him on his campaign which, to be honest, i s only became aware of very recently, today. and i thank you for what he s done. why do think it s right that we should be looking after families of the most vulnerable, the neediest, right now. labour s welcomed the change of heart. it was obvious that there was a need for these free school meals. they should never have put that in jeopardy. we had to push them all the way. and marcus rashford played a really important part in that. so far, marcus rashford seems to have any all the usual criticism that sports stars should stay out politics, mainly by insisting that this wasn t about politics. among those lending in the support, gary lineker, who said: rival city congratulated rashford. and olympic gold medallist denise lewis told him: this doesn t appear to be the end of his campaign though. you ve achieved this incredible thing in such a short space of time. you have a platform. what s next? i think it, obviously, this is only going to be successful throughout the summer period and then, you know, we ve bought ourselves an extra six weeks of time there to sort of plan and figure out what s next and how we keep taking steps forward, because i don t want it to be, i don t want this to be the end of it, you know, because there are definitely more steps that need to be taken and so we just need to analyse the response. john mcmanus, bbc news. there s a lot more of that interview with marcus rashford and sally at ten minutes past eight this morning. our political correspondent nick eardleyjoins us now from westminster. good morning to you. it is an interesting development, prime minister speaking to league football on the phone and government policy being changed on the back of marcus rashford bothma campaign. and on the back of the original breakfast interview. they hear that the prime minister finally watch the interview yesterday morning before his meeting with his inner circle about the coronavirus response. he then went to cabinet and number 10 said, just afterwards, that they were going to change their mind on the policy. so what s going to happen now is there will be a six week voucher for eligible kids in england to get them through the summer holidays, to make sure that they have meals. there s a course for england, there are similar schemes in scotland and wales and we think northern ireland will announce one wants they figure out where the money s coming from. obviously a massive victory for marcus rashford. you had with his interview with sally just marcus rashford. you had with his interview with sallyjust how delighted he is. heard. there is some politics at play here as well. some are worried that it took boris johnson so long to get on top of this issue, and has been one that has been bubbling around for about a week or so. there was some conservative mps really worried about the response from the government and yesterday, after hearing from mr rashford, they were increasingly concerned that the government was getting this wrong. lo and behold borisjohnson changed his mind and there will be free school meals for kids in england. nick, thank you very much for that. on the back of the marcus rashford interview, we ll be speaking to the health secretary, matt hancock, at 7:30. and the other big development, this new drug, the steroid drug, is not new, that will have a big impact on people suffering in hospital with coronavirus. we will be seeking to matt hancock about that. especially those on ventilators. saving one in eight lives, they were saying yesterday. more than 1,000 flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled by chinese officials as they try to contain a fresh outbreak of coronavirus in the city. schools have been ordered to close and residents have been urged not to leave the capital. our china correspondent stephen mcdonell is in beijing. stephen, what more can you tell us about this outbreak? good to see you. what is so interesting about being in the uk, looking at what s going on in china, as all the talk here about a second peak, another wave, and what would happen after it has been contained, and this is the advantage we have, looking at what is happening over there where you are in china. yeah, well, we thought we were through it. 50 plus days without a single infection and now, bam, beijing has been dragged back into what is, effectively, a coronavirus retention bubble. practically speaking, it is very difficult to leave this city right now. you need to have done a test, a coronavirus test, within seven test, a coronavirus test, within seven days, but the testing capacity is limited, and, understandably, is being prioritised for those in high risk groups. however, the high risk groups are not allowed to leave the city under any circumstances stop when is a high risk groups, i m mean anybody who has been inside this giant inviting wholesale market or if you live near the market. shin fardy. the allies have cancelled over a thousand flights today. all schools are closed again. and people living in the neighbourhoods around that market where this cluster appeared those people are not even allowed to leave their residential compounds. you can see the authorities are taking this very seriously. they are hoping what is officially a tally of 137 cases, i think, won t turn into a full blown second wave, which would warrant locking down the city of 20 million people. you know, stephen, iwas looking at what might ride from the emergencies programme, the world health organization, is said and he said what we like to see is an immediate response to new clusters and a comprehensive set of measures. do you think, considering china s in terms of the pandemic, china has led the way in terms of progressive progressing, is china setting markers and how to deal with this and shut this down quickly? beijing s approach is whenever there isa beijing s approach is whenever there is a little cluster you squash it at the source. what they re doing is treating parts of beijing as cities within the city, hoping they can sort of cauterise it, control the problem in that part of the city and the difference now, compared to february, is that businesses haven t closed, manufacturing is continuing, government departments are still open. and i think this is giving many people, i don t know, sort of confidence about the authorities will be able to control this because they will be able to identify those who are sick, to isolate them, to put them into quarantine and it won t take off throughout the city and throughout the country. but we will just have and throughout the country. but we willjust have to wait and see. this isa willjust have to wait and see. this is a sort of homegrown outbreak, as opposed to these cases we have seen from overseas arrivals. they don t know how it got into that market in the first place. which is also worrying people. like i say, we will have to see how well they are able to control its spread this time around. we will be keeping a close eye on it as well. steve mcdonell, to talk to you. thanks for that. good to talk to you. brazil has reported a record number of new coronavirus cases over the past 2a hours nearly 35,000. the country, second only to the us in the number of infections and deaths, is on course to register one million cases by the end of the week. more than 115,000 people in brazil have died with the disease. india says chinese forces have killed 20 of its soldiers in a disputed himalayan border area. the battle was fought with clubs and rocks, but no shots were fired. the indian army said both sides suffered casualties but china is yet to confirm any numbers. both sides are blaming each other for the fighting. the met office has issued further yellow weather warnings for thunderstorms this afternoon, after heavy rain and lightning struck parts of the uk yesterday. these pictures show heavy rain in manchester last night. warnings are in place from midday today until nine this evening, with the possibility of further flooding and disruption to road networks. carol will be with us at 27 minutes past seven if dan doesn t go over. they will try my best. the chief medical officer for england called it the most important result so far in the fight against coronavirus. the prime minister hailed a remarkable british scientific achievement . and some of those who took it have called it a life saver. we re talking about dexamethasone a cheap and widely available drug which has been approved for use in the most severely affected covid 19 patients across the uk. it isa it is a word that will come to roll off the lips. let s take a look at the difference it could make. in a trial led by a team at oxford university, a sample of 2000 hospital patients were given dexamethasone. it found that one in every eight patients on a ventilator could be saved by the drug. it could also save one in every 25 patients treated with oxygen. if it had been used from the beginning of the pandemic, researchers say the drug could have saved between four and 5,000 lives in the uk. evenif even if it was one. even if it was one. that s the thing. marium zumeer was given the drug as part of the trial run by dr dinesh saralaya at bradford royal infirmary. we can speak to both of them now. good morning to you both. thank you for talking to us today. marium, 18 yea rs for talking to us today. marium, 18 years old, you can correct me if i m wrong, the youngest person on this trial but you contracted coronavirus and then you were given this drug stop tell us what happened. yeah, i did, unfortunately contract coronavirus. ideye was taken to the hospital ten days after being really poorly to find out it was corona andi poorly to find out it was corona and i was. and dr dinesh saralaya did come visit me on the second or third day i was that he told me bit about this drug. i didn t really understand what it was about, but once he explained it and read this leaflet he gave me, he spoke to my dad as well, and a signed it and they had that medicine every day i was in the hospital i signed it. ican was in the hospital i signed it. i can say it was a lifesaver as it did help me. the doctor said to me ina week did help me. the doctor said to me in a week hopefully you will be home and a week later i did come home. that is a remarkable recovery. what i will say, although this is almost a celebration of the strong, what i will say to you, marium, is a know that your grandfather also battled coronavirus, unrelated, in terms of contracting it, in terms of your contraction, and he didn t survive. for that i am sorry. it must hurt quite greatly to know that you benefited from this and you could benefited from this and you could benefit but he wasn t put on a trial. yeah, it does. and it s sad that he wasn t here. but he was old and he struggled with the ventilator. he is at peace now so that makes me feel a bit more co mforta ble. that makes me feel a bit more comfortable. but, you know, it s not nice that any life is lost, to a virus, especially. let us bring in dr saralaya, who was listening in this morning and was heavily involved in all of this. when you look at some of the figures involved in this, research is saying 5000 lives could have been saved, it makes you realise what a breakthrough this is and why it was so breakthrough this is and why it was so celebrated yesterday at the daily briefing. how important is it for you? it is tremendous news. we have been taking part in the trial seems much and i still remember the day when i saw marion to take part in the trial. we opted an approach that very brightly every patient receiving treatment for covid 19 should be part for a clinical trial to find a cure for this dreadful disease. i still remember the day vividly when i approached marion for consent for being part of the trial. being as young as she is, i was convinced i needed to get a father involved. i must say, we saw some early results in some of the patients. it was an openly randomised trial. and when i knew that marion was on dexamethasone, i did go back to her and said i am confident this would work on you and quite rightly she improved within a week because she was on a boardroom, she was on the highest flow of oxyge n she was on the highest flow of oxygen and she was actually resisting which she would go on to see back but luckily the treatment helped. how significant is it that marion is 18 and a young and i am not sure of any underlying conditions but how significant is that to how the body was ready to use the drug to fight off coronavirus? we were told this was a disease that was going to affect elderly people, people with other conditions but that is not the result we saw. we have seen a lot of young patients. of course, marion was the youngest patient retreated our unit. there are children much younger who got this disease as well. we have seen patients in their 30s or 40s who are otherwise really well, with no other conditions, who we re well, with no other conditions, who were affected severely by covid 19. within our unit and across the country, we saw a wide age range for this disease. though it affects and kills a lot more people who are elderly and with multiple medical conditions, it has affected other people who are very young with no pre existing medical conditions so thatis pre existing medical conditions so that is why we need to be careful going forward we are controlling this disease. i think there would be lots of people watching the daily briefing who heard about the excitement around this drug and yet this morning they are watching this programme and have questions about family and friends. what would you say to people this morning who are asking that question, could it work for me and how it would it be rolled out? you are living proof it is a game changer. out? you are living proof it is a game-changer. of course, there have been lots of research and, of course, the way the doctor spoke to me about it and he maybe understand what it was, and what it meant. there is no reason for me to say no. it was just a trial. but that trial has proved to be a life saver and i was delighted to be chosen. and we are delighted to get to talk to you. how are you today? when we talk to people who have come out of hospital, they say they still feel wea k hospital, they say they still feel weak and having trouble breathing. how are you today? it is been a month on and i will not say i am 100%, iam month on and i will not say i am 100%, i am still on the road to recovery, i still get aches and paintandi recovery, i still get aches and paint and i do struggle after a bit of exertion and a movement but apart from that i am a lot better than before. i am delighted to hear it. it is great to have this positive news. thank you so much and glad you are on the way to recovery. thank you, doctor, for being part of the trial and help us bring this news to us this morning. thank you. we will be speaking to matt hancock in about ten minutes time and will be talking about the story we have been following because on monday we had an interview with marcus rashford talking about free school meals. particularly in england and over the summer particularly in england and over the summer holiday. he was worried about some children going hungry over the summer and he wanted to get them some extra help. we interviewed a minister on tuesday and pushed and pushed but the government said we were not doing anything and then, sally, what did your interview help transpire? not my interview, it is all about marcus rashford and if the power that young man has at the moment and the influence. at the start of this, we rain the interview on monday morning. i was at his house sunday night recording the interview and i have to tell you, to be honest, we did talk about the possibility of there being some negativity when he gets involved in campaigns like this. lots of footballers previously would have been frightened to get involved in anything like this or speaking out in any way, even though this is not political, they do not wa nt to this is not political, they do not want to be seeing is getting involved in politics, but hejust shrugged and said, let s do it. it isa shrugged and said, let s do it. it is a cause which is so, so important to him and yesterday, when we got the news of the government u turn that, in fact, the news of the government u turn that, infact, children the news of the government u turn that, in fact, children will continue to get free meals, we went back to this house and this happened. it gets to a stage where they are not thinking about themselves anymore and that is the bit that gets to me, really. lack of sleep and you cannot follow what they have been dreaming of doing. that is what affected me and made me wa nt that is what affected me and made me want to help. when you started this campaign, ithink want to help. when you started this campaign, i think it was only five days ago stop who were you thinking of? were you thinking of your family or we re just of? were you thinking of your family or we rejust thinking of of? were you thinking of your family or we re just thinking of the families of fans? who was it in your mind? obviously the areas i grew up m, mind? obviously the areas i grew up in, and a lot of different people and families who are still going through it now. it is not so much about my family anymore because, obviously, the situation has changed andl obviously, the situation has changed and ijust obviously, the situation has changed and i just do obviously, the situation has changed and ijust do not want people to go through the same thing. it isjust important to understand the place where i come from, my background and that it where i come from, my background and thatitis where i come from, my background and that it is quite simple, really, the reason why would try and help people get the message. as ever, these powerful messages are quite simple. he talks about his akron, where from. as a kid he is to go around the corner to his friend ‘s house, jamie, because jamie had a mum and dad who were both working and had more food on the table. a couple of times a weekjamie s family would give marcus his dinner. he is coming to this with real authority because this is what his childhood was like. another powerful thing he has done is help remove the stigma of free school meals because sometimes children and family find it hard to accept them but he has been so open and honest about it, that is another thing he has succeeded in doing. everything came together. he has lived that life, had the experience, he has a huge platform and following and he would not give up and pulled all those things together. you spoken to marcus again and, as you saw earlier on, manchester united s number 10 has changed downing street number 10 has changed downing street number10. he is number 10 has changed downing street number 10. he is due to play for manchester united on friday night. he lived through lockdown, he had been training, had a phone call with the prime minister, and he could have almost had enough of it by yesterday and just been really drained and exhausted but he was not. he was completely engaged, wa nted not. he was completely engaged, wanted to get his point across, wa nted wanted to get his point across, wanted to get his point across, wanted to tell everybody what it was so wanted to tell everybody what it was so important and we went on and had that chat. the full chat is coming up that chat. the full chat is coming up later in the programmejust that chat. the full chat is coming up later in the programme just after eight o clock and it is really interesting what he talks about, his childhood and his mum stop wait until you hear what he says about his mum, mel. the key word is this is important. one of the parents who will welcome this is jane. jane keen smith. she joins us now from worcester, along with lindsay boswell, who is from the food charity fare share. you would have seen the comment marcus rashford has made and his interview with sally. how did you feel? it was yesterday afternoon just before one o clock that the announcement came through. what did it mean to you? it was amazing. first of all i want to thank marcus rashford because it has made a massive difference to a lot of families, including myself. as a mum of four, single parent, but i do work, i am self employed, i cannot currently work because i am a hairdresser and i currently work because i am a hairdresserand i am currently work because i am a hairdresser and i am in a currently work because i am a hairdresserand i am in a bit currently work because i am a hairdresser and i am in a bit of a sticky situation really so it has made a difference to us because i am on zero income at the moment so it meant through the summer i could ta ke meant through the summer i could take a meant through the summer i could takea sigh meant through the summer i could take a sigh of relief that my children will have a meal so it is amazing. over the last few days, lots of people praising marcus rashford but also many people have been talking about how he has helped to re m ove been talking about how he has helped to remove the stigma of saying, i cannot afford meals for my children. how do you feel about that? i have many of my friends that come to me and say they are embarrassed and they do not want to talk about it andi they do not want to talk about it and i say, don t be embarrassed because sometimes you put in a situation that you cannot help. and especially with covid we can have this situation many families need it more than ever so this situation many families need it more than ever so we this situation many families need it more than ever so we should not be embarrassed and we should all talk about it and we should all help each other. you should not be embarrassed andi other. you should not be embarrassed and i tell you why, people who watch and i tell you why, people who watch and people who do not have an idea of what it is like to have to resort to school meal vouchers or ask for help. you say you are a hairdresser, your sons medical conditions include cerebral palsy, epilepsy and visual impairmentand cerebral palsy, epilepsy and visual impairment and you are also caring for your father and your children because of the vulnerable people in your life and usually what you have would have lived on, i am not breaking any confidentiality here but i want people to understand the situation that people like you who are trying their best and bringing up are trying their best and bringing up children and looking after family are going through. you are living on £30 when after bill s, petrol and council tax and at the moment you do not have the extra income. that s right. £30 a week and relied on other charities to help us. i have been to a food bank. it was a position last year i was put in and i was position last year i was put in and iwasa position last year i was put in and i was a little embarrassed myself but now that i have spoken to my friends about it, we started to realise we should not be embarrassed. i have had friends got fed off at my doorjust to help me because they understand sometimes you cannot help the position you are in. you try your best to get out of your position. i woke, i try my very best but unfortunately, my sons health conditions means a limited to what i can do. he has to come first because i do not have the extra help so because i do not have the extra help soi because i do not have the extra help so i think we need to make people realise that there are many different situations why people are in this position and why we rely on a free school meals and at the extra help. yesterday it sang the praises of marcus rashford. put that to one side, i want to pick up on this point that jane has side, i want to pick up on this point thatjane has made in the sense that there should not be any stigma that it comes to this and foodbank are a fact of life, a necessary pa rt foodbank are a fact of life, a necessary part of life in order to support society for those vulnerable and struggling? absolutely and jane, thank you so, so much for what you have said because there are lots and lots of jains out have said because there are lots and lots ofjains out there and the juggling. lots ofjains out there and the juggling, that you go through, is absolutely extraordinary and, as you point out so eloquently, it is not of your making and that is the thing will need to understand. this pandemic isa will need to understand. this pandemic is a different and there is so pandemic is a different and there is so much more that we can and should do. we are so relieved that over the summer we do. we are so relieved that over the summer we hopefully are going to have fewer people turning around to the 11,000 amazing frontline charity and community groups who are using food to connect people up with the other services that they need to be able to support them and, fingers crossed, fewer people will need those services, fewer people will need to go to a foodbank because they have the money to be able to go and do the shops themselves. a real pleasure to speak to you today is on the trot. and jane, thank you for being so honest about life are you at the moment. a privilege to have you on the programme. we talk about impressive people, that is one powerful woman and there are many around the country who are dealing with that nonsense and that difficulty and they need the support and that is what marcus rashford has made sure has helped happen. we will be talking to matt hackford. and here is another powerful one carol. don t mess with carol, she controls the weather! good morning, today is a repeat performance of what we had yesterday, sunshine and heavy, thundery, slow moving downpours. low mist and fog, most of it in eastern areas but some of it over towards the west and poor visibility. that will push back towards the north sea coastline and if you are stuck under it, it will peg back the temperatures. showers in scotland, north west england, wales and southern counties, for the midlands, east anglia and kent. if you catch one of the showers, they will be heavy, in fact, torrential, thundery with hail and because they are slow moving we could have an issue with surface water flooding. still feeling quite humid. this evening and overnight, eventually the showers ease and we see the low cloud rolling in from the north sea and, at the same time, whether front coming in bringing rain to east anglia, the midlands and also into lincolnshire. it will not be a cold night, in fact, lincolnshire. it will not be a cold night, infact, it lincolnshire. it will not be a cold night, in fact, it is going to be a muqqy night, in fact, it is going to be a muggy one. tomorrow then, we start off with the rain in east anglia, the midlands, lincolnshire, moving northwards. the cloud pushing back towards the coast. through the afternoon, we will see the show is getting going. they will be slow moving again. we could have torrential downpours, hail and thunder. the met office has a yellow weather warning between 30 a0 50 millimetres of rain injust weather warning between 30 a0 50 millimetres of rain in just three hours. tomorrow it will feel quite humid. as we move on into friday, and whether front continues to move northwards. still some showers and also some sunshine around as well with pictures similar to what we are looking at or a degree or two down. some showers still heavy and thundery. and onto the weekend, a ridge of high pressure keeping things essential, however, we have low pressure not too far away with attending front bringing in some rain but we think this will be later on in the day on saturday so that will initially get into northern ireland and for the later part of the evening and overnight it will push steadily eastwards and on sunday something drier is coming our way once again. back to you sooner. look at the big blob of sunshine down south. that is the technical term, carole, you should know that. you should be a meteorologist. they say that to you all the time and you just kind of smile at me through your gritted teeth i see. just kind of smile at me through your gritted teeth i see. you are not wrong. we saw the lightning from la st not wrong. we saw the lightning from last night and there were concerns about the road conditions later on today for anyone who is concerned about that. that s right. if you get caught in one of these torrential downpours they come right down and it is almost like stairs, can lead to flash flooding. it s not nice at all. it is certainly concerning. thank you very much. it is 7:33. one story we have embraced the swedish, is marcus rashford campaigning to get summer school meal vouchers to children in england and the u turn by the government yesterday to say yes, it will supply the money for them. we can now speak to the health secretary, matt hancock. really keen to talk to you, you properly are as well, to talk about the medical breakthrough with dexamethasone. we will come to that. we wanted to start with the free school meals. this time yesterday we had a government minister on the programme explaining why there wouldn t be free school meals in england. so talk us through what prompted the u turn. talk us through what prompted the u-turn. i think we have come to the right decision. i wasn t involved in thejudgement that the right decision. i wasn t involved in the judgement that the prime minister made. they understand that until yesterday he hadn t seen the video, the interview that you made with marcus rashford. i think the way that marcus rashford has conduct this campaign and made his argument has just been so impressive, such dignity and emotion and how he has done that. but i think we have come to the right decision. the thing is, marcus rashford and many others, as you mentioned, a very happy you made that change. we have spoken to somebody who will benefit from that, a lady called jane. a lot of people are intrigued about the way this came about. that letter was with the education secretary on sunday. it was published very early monday morning. it has been front page news for two days and yet the prime minister only knew it yesterday. how is that possible? well, he knew about the issue, because he announced support for local authorities last week in this area. he knew about the issue. but he hadn t had the chance to see the interview that was done on bbc brea kfast interview that was done on bbc breakfast and i thought and absolutely fantastic interview and really brought out the messages. and so really brought out the messages. and so he engaged with that and made the judgement that he did. i think what matters is the substance and also the way that marcus rashford has made his case using his personal story, but telling it in such a dignified and compelling way. congratulate him. i know he spoke to the prime minister yesterday and it was really great to be able to make this change. because, particularly with coronavirus, you know, there are families who are really struggling and will continue to do over the summer and, so, i m struggling and will continue to do overthe summerand, so, i m really glad we been able to make the change. i just glad we been able to make the change. ijust want brissie won glad we been able to make the change. i just want brissie won that a little bit. i think people watching this morning will think about the fact that there was a small business minister on this programme on monday, paul scully, document the fact that he had read the letter. yesterday naga spoke to grant shapps who said why you would be giving a free school meals over the summer coming at the prime minister wasn t across that story. i know you said he understood about the campaign, but not about marcus rashford part in that, which everybody was talking about. i think some people, mr hancock, will be thinking that plays into a vision that some have that the prime minister is out of touch.” that some have that the prime minister is out of touch. i don t think that s reasonable at all. there are so many things going on. we are dealing with coronavirus, of course, and the great medical breakthrough that we will no doubt come onto. he has also made a very significant announcement yesterday in terms of how we bring our foreign aid budget and foreign policy closer together. and, you know, that s why you have lots of different people in the government. to give him his credit, grant yesterday was explaining the policy as it has been four years and the prime minister took a fresh look at this and made thejudgement that he took a fresh look at this and made the judgement that he did. took a fresh look at this and made thejudgement that he did. in government if you can t change a decision then you never make any progress. i m not dragging over the calls this morning for the of decision, it s not that at all. it s just the way things happen in the element ofjudgement just the way things happen in the element of judgement and just the way things happen in the element ofjudgement and authority and credibility, because sometimes your own mps are questioning this. one was quoted last night saying that this issue was visible from outer space. a former minister is talking about a bad political antenna at number 10 and can be put into a corner by a 22 year old premier league footballer when you could have been out in front on this issue, when you could have been on the front foot. well, look, there is a difference between the westminster, you know, discussion and the substance of the change that this will bring for 1.3 million people over the summer. and that, as health secretary, what they care about, especially with coronavirus about, especially with coronavirus about and the impact that having, is that people can get the very best help they can and for kids that does involve being able to have access to this sort of thing over the summer, especially this year with coronavirus. so i ve been focused on the substance. obviously yesterday i was focused on the fantastic news on the dexamethasone. but it is also totally reasonable, i will say, government to listen to arguments and to make judgements government to listen to arguments and to makejudgements on government to listen to arguments and to make judgements on that basis. in fact, you criticise a government if they didn t listen to the debate that is going on in public and make judgements on that basis. so i think, you know, you can see this both ways. totally reasonable. i think the right decision. and talking about, sort of, changes. would you want to readd ress of, changes. would you want to readdress what is that a few weeks ago about premier league bowlers not playing the part? oh, what a dude was as a premier league footballer ‘s should play their part. was as a premier league footballer s should play their part. you re not claiming credit are you? no, no, no. what i m saying is marcus rashford as peter speight. exactly this sort of thing. notjust this interview and this campaign, but actually he has been volunteering throughout the crisis. i think he s wonderful. that s exactly the sort of thing. why was making an ability eve ryo ne of thing. why was making an ability everyone should play their part, including premiership league football players. that was interpreted various different ways by people. premier league. i think he is a young man who has obviously got enormous talent on the pitch, but he has also got great integrity. you can see that. and it really shines through. so i m very proud of him, actually. let s talk about this drug. it s a significant breakthrough. we have already spoken toa breakthrough. we have already spoken to a young 18 year old whose life was saved by the drug dexamethasone. she is talking about how it made such an impact on her. what sort of difference you think it will make two people who are able to use it now? is just two people who are able to use it now? isjust a wonderful breakthrough in british science and its, you know, this is the first drug that has been clinically proven to save lives from covid 19. so it s a testa m e nt to save lives from covid 19. so it s a testament to british science and the way that we do science properly in this country. it will make a massive difference in terms of the likelihood of surviving, once you are already in hospital and on oxygen. it works for those who are the worst effect that. and if you are on a ventilator then it increases, sorry, decreases the chance of mortality, of dying, by 35%. so it s a very significant improvement. now, it s not a cure and there is still work ongoing on a whole series other treatments that we hope will be able to be used alongside dexamethasone, both earlier in the disease, to stop people ending up on oxygen, on ventilators, and also hopefully to increase the chance of surviving a bit further. so it really is the single biggest scientific rate through that the world has yet made. an ip tribute to the researchers at oxford university and all those who they work with, my deputy chief whip medical officer who has really led thejudge within medical officer who has really led the judge within government, has been a proper team effort i pay tribute. as you say, it is a uk lead trial that will hopefully have wider global applications as well. there is an issue of shielding as well to talk to about today, mr hancock. shielding rules will be lifted for more than 2 million people at the end ofjuly. can you confirm that this morning, is it true? we will set up more details very soon. the shielding programme is formally due to end at the end of this month. we need to set out for the just over 2 million people who are shielding because they are clinically extremely vulnerable to covid what happens next. and we will write to each and every one of them, because it. you know, they have sacrificed an awful lot and it has been buried for some spending over three months at home. and we want to make sure they are safe. it will be based on clinical advice. the reason i m not directly answering is because we wa nt to directly answering is because we want to do this properly, based on the clinical advice, we will write to each person. so why would you say to each person. so why would you say to your viewers, if you are in the shielded category then we will announce very soon shielded category then we will announce very soon what the plans are and we will write to you personally, through the nhs, so that you get the direct clinical advice because it is just so important to the group of people at the most vulnerable. on that point, rob has contacted us this morning. is that there has been very little development and a lack of information on the roadmap to easing. he asked what would you say to reassure those that they will be safe. yes. this is exactly why am answering this so carefully. because what they say directly impacts on over 2 million of the people who are most vulnerable to covid. what icesave. we will set out the full details very, very soon, publicly. my details very, very soon, publicly. my colleague, robertjenrick, will do that, and then we will write individually to each of the 2.2 million people who are in the shielded category and that will be clinical advice based on the judgement of the clinicians in terms of what is safe. just to reassure rob and everybody else in this category, the changes we make are entirely based on the clinical evidence of what it is safe for you to do. but the good news is that because the virus is coming right under control in this country, there s only a500 new infections a day, far, far lower, then it means that it day, far, far lower, then it means thatitis day, far, far lower, then it means that it is much safer to do more things than during the peak and we will be setting that out in detail. bank you very much for talking to us this morning. before we let you go, yourjobis this morning. before we let you go, yourjob is a difficult want to come on this morning and do all these live interviews, i m sure you are aware that marcus rashford daniil rashford is trending on social media. i think i said it rashford is trending on social media. i think! said it once rashford is trending on social media. i think i said it once and then several other times i said. i have no idea. i just then several other times i said. i have no idea. ijust completely misspoke. is that one of those moments where you slap yourself on the head and then. too early in the head and then. too early in the morning! ok. thank you for talking about marcus rashford with us this morning and everything else. but hank, it has been good to talk to you. thank you very much. that is the health secretary. he is properly getting a bit of grief for it. it is early. if there is getting names wrong and he will be slapping himself on the head forgetting that name wrong. i get names wrong all the time and kick yourself but then, in that position, it is all for the world to see. here is roger with the spot! sorry, we are talking to you probably did not hear the joke. ignore what we say in the studio because you have loads to talk about because you have loads to talk about because football is coming back but not as we want you it. the premier league makes its return tonight. with the eyes on the world on the premier league, just imagine that logistics and the pressure as well to get it right and to make sure that those safety measures are adhered to stop someone who knows a lot about that is the manchester city operation manager director, danny wilson. i can imagine you have been busy over the last few weeks. it has been a busy time, particularly the last four or five weeks, preparing with the premier league with all the protocols, the team, the players, the managers and making sure we have the preparations in place. it would be a different experience for the players arriving at the stadium. different zones and the axis is governed by the people who need to be in those areas. safety is of the priority. when the players move into the studies, the change rooms have been expanded so they can be socially distance. they will come together priorjust for the final briefing. the players an movement of the two teams will be handle differently so they are not heading out at the same time and respect social distancing. there will be no cluster oddity ventures but more spread out. safety is our big focus. we know there will be no fans, it is behind closed doors stop how will you replicate the atmosphere? a lot of it is gone into it. we have created a commemorative book for those who cannot make it, city square live will be paid out to supporters with former players and special guests, interacting with supporters up and down the country. and you have been helping the nhs as well? for close to three months we have been helping the nhs, testing in car parks, training, click and collect activity and this will continue as we play the games as well. the football itself, manchester city have two matches. crucial they went if they want to stop liveable. they need to keep going and stay positive. liverpool. thank you very much. villa park will be the first de kock and then at the stadium will play manchester city against arsenal is the premier league makes its long awaited return. the first game and then the stadium here will host manchester city against arsenal. you can listen to commentary on both of tonight s matches on bbc radio five live. back in april here on breakfast we told you about a nurse, mary agyapong, who died from coronavirus. she was 35 weeks pregnant at the time and doctors managed to safely deliver her daughter by caesarean section. in his first interview, mary s husband ernest has been paying tribute to her. he s been speaking to our reporter, sima kotecha. take yourtime, take your time, come over. a year ago, mary encouraging herson take your time, come over. a year ago, mary encouraging her son to walk. sometimes she would wake you up walk. sometimes she would wake you up in the middle of the night and tell you, i want mum but at that point in time there is nothing i can say to him. she wasjust 28 and leaves behind a son and daughter by emergency cesareanjust leaves behind a son and daughter by emergency cesarean just days before she died. she was very kind. her heart was pure. and she was very genuine. we know. men are not perfect, but mary was. hi, look. mary was a nurse in bedfordshire. she was diagnosed with coronavirus in early april and died a week later. her husband says she should not have been working at the hospital because she was heavily pregnant. this was before the government had issued guidance for expecting mums. when mary passed, had a call from one of thejunior reps and confidently told me, you know what, i actually met mary on the board and i told her, mary, it is not safe for you, you need to get out of here but she said she could not help it, she was hopeless. the nhs trust responsible for the hospital said the first patient to test positive coronavirus was not admitted onto her board until after mary had gone on sick leave with pregnancy related problems. while holding his newborn, ernest says he does not believe that was the case. we find it a bit difficult to comprehend because, even at the time, mary was off sick, some of her collea g u es time, mary was off sick, some of her colleagues were self isolating. time, mary was off sick, some of her colleagues were self isolatingm time, mary was off sick, some of her colleagues were self-isolating. in a statement of the trust says. it also says. do you think that your anger that you are feeling at the moment, that you are perhaps taking that out on the trust? for me, ithink taking that out on the trust? for me, i think mary was not treated fairly. herfamily me, i think mary was not treated fairly. her family has me, i think mary was not treated fairly. herfamily has not been treated fairly and, for that matter, i believe my voice is what i have now. mary and her son s second birthday last year, dancing with her father who died from suspected coronavirus five days before she did. painful memories for ernest as he tries to contemplate a life without what he calls his first true love. there are no ways to really explain how i am feeling within. sometimes, you know, ijust love and smile about the precious moments we had together for the past three and a half years. at times i could just be walking and just crying and. so that there are a lot of emotions just in between. that is the reality, he will never forget her and keeping her memory alive bringing up his daughter. thank you for mary agyapong s husband, ernest, for talking to us. wear a mask and do not set less than two metres apart. they are the same guidelines you will face if you fa ncy guidelines you will face if you fancy going on a rollercoaster this summer. fancy going on a rollercoaster this summer. an estimated 400,000 jobs under threat, the leisure and cultural attractions are working ha rd to cultural attractions are working hard to be covid secure for when they reopen. blackpool, the pleasure beach, a place that should be, at this time of year a cacophony of shouts and screams. it is a very strange atmosphere here because the only thing you can hear is birdsong and if this should be a place that is, at this time of year, teasing with people. they are hoping they will soon people. they are hoping they will soon get the chance to open the gates but the question is, how do you do socially distanced fun? this is the first time since 1886 that this park has ever close. we were open throughout both was so this is just an extraordinary time for us and, being a family business is particularly difficult because you have to look after so many families as well that work out for you. and to make it work, they are even socially distancing the rollercoaster. are you going to be able to fill the train? we are not, to enable distance between people. as you can see with your measuring tape. that is only a metre so you have to go. that is exactly two metres. we leave this row empty and maintaina metres. we leave this row empty and maintain a safe distance. it is a very different experience, you have to wear a face mask, no one behind me, they have to be to set behind, everything is going to be, well, a lot slower, that is, apart from the ride itself. and if you do not wa nt to ride itself. and if you do not want to be terrified alone, bring someone want to be terrified alone, bring someone from want to be terrified alone, bring someone from your own want to be terrified alone, bring someone from your own household. britain s visitor attractions and cultural venues have seen income plumbers and even when things do reopen, it will be gradual. london zoo for instance is outdoor only with viewing points and one way systems. our creative industries are losing more than £1 billion a week in revenue. here at the design museum, i was shown how they are adapting the forthcoming exhibition on the music industry. there is a one way flow into the main exhibition. time limited, and a half. of course one-way systems work for museums but not other cultural venues. it is interesting that the exhibition deals with an aspect of music and live performance in club culture because that part of the cultural landscape is really severely head at the moment, even more than museums. the opening trajectory for live venues and music performance is a lot further down the line. even the museums are going to be quieter than normal. we need to be quieter than normal. we need to start carefully. it is small steps. small steps, keep moving, no dawdling. hundreds of thousands of jobs depend on places like this but it is going to be tougher businesses that rely on mingling, crowds and people feeling comfortable being close to one another. we have had a message in this morning from a mother who said ethan has started crawling and every he you come on the television, he crawls up and stares at you. do you know what he does next? get the remote and turns it off? is that what he does with you? laughter. it has to be done. i love you, really. good morning everybody and hello, ethan, if you are at the television. heavy foundry downpours, slow moving. low cloud, mist and fog rolling in of the north sea, back towards the coastline and if you are stuck under that, that will depress the temperatures. show is continuing across western scotland, some in northern ireland, while of land, heading across north west england, wales, the southwest, the midlands, east anglia and kent. they will be slow moving because there is hardly a breath of wind today. torrential as well. you could see heel storms as well. so once again, it will be humid. overnight, eventually the show was ease. low cloud mist and fog rolling in from the north sea. at the same timea in from the north sea. at the same time a weather front coming and it will introduce rain across east anglia, the midlands and lincolnshire. we are in for another humid night with loads of about 9-1a. humid night with loads of about 9 1a. tomorrow we set off with low cloud, mist and fog. with lowe s. a weather front moving slowly. a lot of heavy thundery showers, slow moving and you can have as much as two inches of rainfall in three hours. the headlines are next. good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. our headlines today: a mother s pride manchester united and england star marcus rashford on the family support that changed government policy on free school meals. she has rang me about ten times today. she is very happy. if someone, today. she is very happy. if someone, when she was going through it, if someone would have spoke out about it then, the situation could have been different. in an exclusive interview with breakfast he says the fight isn t over, and he wants the policy changed permanently. the biggest breakthrough in the fight against coronavirus so far, a steroid drug is now available for hospital patients across the uk. more than a thousand flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled, as fears grow of a fresh coronavirus outbreak. iamat i am at the etihad, where manchester city host arsenal behind closed doors. it s wednesday the 17th ofjune. our top story. the footballer marcus rashford says he wants to do more to help those in need after winning a battle to extend free school meals for children in england, so they won t go hungry during the summer holidays. the manchester united and england star said he was shocked and grateful that his campaign, which he talked about exclusively on breakfast, prompted a government u turn and now he s ready to consider his next move. this is only going to be successful throughout the summer period and then we ve bought ourselves an extra six weeks of time now to sort of plan and figure out what s next and how we keep taking steps forward. because i don t want this to be the end of it, because there s definitely more steps that need to be taken taken so we just need to analyse the response. speaking in the last half hour, the health secretary matt hancock denied the government had been slow to respond to the premier league star s campaign. it s also totally reasonable i would say for a government to listen to arguments and to make judgments on that basis. in fact, you would criticise the government if they didn t listen to the debate that is going on in public and make judgments on that basis. so i think you can see this both ways, totally reasonable and i think the right decision. let s get a view from our political correspondent nick eardley. we are trying to figure out when you look at the timetable when the interview took place, sally spoke to marcus rashford, we were reporting it and how the government was reacting? absolutely. we know the prime minister said yesterday he only became aware of marcus rashford s campaign yesterday. he watched the interview in the morning and it was after that the government made the decision to change its mind and to u turn on its free school meals policy. but there are some tory mps who are quite worried this wasn t on the prime minister s radar earlier, we were all talking about it. the issue of free school meals has been going on for a couple of weeks now and there are some in parliament that thinks the government was a bit slow off the mark by waiting for so long. it looks like they were false into a u turn rather than making a decision based on the arguments they were hearing. but they have done it and as matt hancock was saying, he thinks they have arrived at the right decision. a quick reminder of what will happen, if you are in england and a liberalfor what will happen, if you are in england and a liberal for free school meals you will get a six week voucher to cover the summer holidays. that is england only. there are similar schemes in scotla nd there are similar schemes in scotland and wales that will work slightly differently, but broadly similar. we think there will be one in northern ireland eventually. but the big question is now whether the government sees the political fallout from this continuum. you have got prime minister s questions today and i wouldn t be surprised if you heard labour putting more pressure on boris johnson you heard labour putting more pressure on borisjohnson as to why some of these decisions at the moment are quite slow. it has been interesting, stuff to talk about. the chief medical officer for england called it the most important result so far in the fight against coronavirus. and some of those who took it have called it a life saver. we re talking about dexamethasone a cheap and widely available drug which has been approved for use in the most severely affected covid 19 patients across the uk. we re joined by our medical correspondent fergus walsh to find out more. we have just heard matt hancock talking about this breakthrough, tell us more about this drug and why it is so effective. good morning to you. morning. it is so nice to have something positive to report about. dexamethasone is a steroid licensed in 1961 dexamethasone is a steroid licensed in1961 and dexamethasone is a steroid licensed in 1961 and has been around for decades, it is cheap. it costs pennies and a course of treatment in the uk on the nhs is about £5, up to ten days. it is remarkable because for the sickest patients in hospital, for those on ventilators, it cuts the risk of death from covid 19 by a third and for those on oxygen it cuts the risk of death by a fifth. so it is the first drug thatis a fifth. so it is the first drug that is proven, proven to save lives. fergus, how does it save lives. fergus, how does it save lives and this has come about because we have had these trials. we we re because we have had these trials. we were talking about how many lives it could have saved if the tries were earlier, but you couldn t do that but how does it actually work? what is happening in the body that the steroid does to help at that stage when you are at ventilation in hospital? there are two stages of the disease. this is something you would not want to use in the early stages of the disease because it dampens the immune response. in patients who get seriously ill, after about seven days after the infection, their immune system goes haywire and starts to attack the body and cause inflammation. what the steroid does, it is an anti inflammatory and it dampens down the immune response, giving the lungs a chance to recover. there has been a lot of debate about it because back at the time of sars, the drug was used and some said it helped with sars, which is another form of coronavirus, but some said it was harmful. so the team at oxford university running the biggest trial of coronavirus treatments, they put this drug into their trial and they said, let s see whether it will work. a huge number of doctors and experts were very doubtful, why are you trying this old steroid, surely it won t work? they were quite surprised that the first drug proven to save lives and cut deaths from coronavirus is not some shiny, new high tech drug which costs thousands of pounds, but an old steroid which every hospital pharmacy in the world will have access to. fergus, didn t you say it was as cheap as chips? it has been a while we have been able to say something, and as you said at the start, it is affordable and it is doable? it is, and where the estimations, had we known right at the beginning of the pandemic that it could potentially in the uk alone have saved up to 5000 lives, but if you look at brazil who have had the biggest cases so far, and other parts of the world where the epidemic is rising, there is a chance for it to have an impact now. if we get a second wave in the uk, then this drug will be there. it is not a cure, this is still a terrible disease but it is proof that medicine can intervene and it will give encouragement and that the mechanism used by dexamethasone can be exploited further and will we will get better medicines in the future. fergus walsh, thank you very much. talking about this breakthrough and what it will mean for lots of patients. more than 1,000 flights in and out of beijing have been cancelled by chinese officials as they try to contain a fresh outbreak of coronavirus in the city. schools have been ordered to close and residents have been urged not to leave the capital, which had previously gone 50 days without any local transmission of covid 19. the latest cases are linked to a wholesale food market. there s more evidence this morning of the effect the coronavirus lockdown has had on the economy. prices have risen at their slowest rate for four years. falling petrol prices and cheaper clothes and footwear saw the official inflation rate drop to 0.5%. food prices have gone up though, as supermarkets were among the few shops allowed to stay open. it s the story that s dominating most of the front pages today, as well as breakfast and many other news programmes. the manchester united and england footballer marcus rashford has prompted a government u turn over free meals for children in england during the summer holidays. and it was an issue he spoke to sally about on monday. everybody has been talking about this for the last few days and now, this for the last few days and now, this is the opportunity to hear from the man himself. we are about to leave the interview, i was round at his house yesterday to get his reaction after he had spoken to borisjohnson on the phone and after he had the campaign he started a little less than a week ago had been successful. while we were setting up to do this interview, we have spoken to marcus at more than once and when you go to his house, the rest of his family are generally there. i was chatting to one of his brothers and he said, when they were kids, there was five siblings, when they were kids they all knew marcus had a good chance of being a successful football and they said to each other, if he makes it, if he gets to be famous and play for manchester united and england, we are going to use his fame as a positive force, do something good with this. that is what they decided together with his mum years ago. so here we have marcus rashford using his platform for good and i spoke to him last night, as i said and this is his reaction to the news that boris johnson and the is his reaction to the news that borisjohnson and the government had changed their policy. when you heard the news, how surprised where you?” when you heard the news, how surprised where you? i was obviously shocked, it is a big decision for someone shocked, it is a big decision for someone to make. you know, i am just grateful the prime minister did change his decision and he understood. i spoke to him earlier on today and i thanked him for that. it was a nice conversation to have with him and we understood each other. how did that chap go? did he phone up and say hello, marcus, it is boris? he was saying thank you for using what i have built in a positive manner. we were thanking each other because he didn t have to do that, and neither did i. he was just grateful that someone had an opinion and shared it with people and just had been the voice of the people that didn t have the platform to speak out as much as they would like to. are you aware that the way that boris johnson like to. are you aware that the way that borisjohnson was informed by yourcampaign, he was that borisjohnson was informed by your campaign, he was actually played the interview we did the other night? yes, he mentioned that on the phone. he said that is what moved him really, because he understood it a little bit more, hearing it from someone rather than just reading it or hearing about it. that was obviously a key factor in him changing his decision. that must make you feel like you have achieved an incredible thing? yes, it is a nice feeling but i am just happy that people s lives, people s summers will be changed for the better. that was the important thing that i try to change going into that. coming at the end of it now it is obviously a proud, proud moment. you must have been contacted by so many people, which of those stories stick in your mind and what are the things you remember most?m stick in your mind and what are the things you remember most? it isjust some of the after effects it can lead to. some people are not sleeping, they can t do the normal things they do day to day. probably because they are thinking about where the next meal is going to come from for their kids. get to the stage where they are not about themselves any more, and that is the bit that gets to me. you know, lack of sleep and they cannot follow what they have been dreaming of doing, work related or whatever it may be, thatis work related or whatever it may be, that is what affected me and made me wa nt to that is what affected me and made me want to help. so, you heard the news just after you came off the training pitch. what have your colleagues at manchester united been saying, your team mates, have they said anything to you about the campaign? they have been interested and asking questions about it. i mentioned before, people wa nt to about it. i mentioned before, people want to make change and sometimes, like i was, you don t know the ins and outs of certain situations and the amount of people it is actually effective. they were just asking general questions like that and gain an understanding of it, which is definitely positive because that is what you need to do, you need to raise awareness to people who do not know. do you think you might be able to lead other people in your position where they can speak out about things they believe in?” position where they can speak out about things they believe in? i have touched on that, especially our generation of players in my sport. it is becoming more normal that people speak out on topics that they believe in and i think it s just positive for the future. we look at the generations after us and hopefully it becomes a normal thing and people actually want to do that and people actually want to do that and put themselves forward to do that. that is your team-mates, what support have you had from the wider world, the wider community? i know lots of people, also very high profile people have been in touch and been supporting you, who have you heard from? there has been loads of people, but the thing that surprises me the most is people that in you don t really get to connect with. i have had all types of different people getting in contact and that s what makes it feel like it is real and that connection between people is what makes the world go round. it is definitely a positive thing. it is not only football fa ns positive thing. it is not only football fans reading and learning about it, everybody is. you have had huge messages of support from people like liverpool football club, from manchester city football club, people who would be your rivals on the pitch, but the campaign you started seems to transcend all of that. you must feel incredibly proud of what you have done?” that. you must feel incredibly proud of what you have done? i am just happy that people understand, in the world we live in, in our sport it has always been football, football, football. sometimes there are situations that come up and it puts football aside for a moment and this was one of those situations. that is the type of support you want, for the type of support you want, for the country to be a better place and it is definitely positive that those names have come forward and said congratulations. never mind the big names, your mum, obviously, we talked at length about your mum the other night, what has she said to you about the decision? she has rang me about ten times today. she is just very happy. if someone, when she was going through it, if someone had spoke out about it then may be the situation would have been different. she is just the situation would have been different. she isjust happy the situation would have been different. she is just happy now that people going through it, people are aware of that now and people will help them as much as they can. she is happy we are taking steps in the right direction. when you started this campaign, i think it was only five days ago, who were you thinking of? were you thinking of yourfamily or where thinking of? were you thinking of your family or where you just thinking of, you know, the families of fans, who was it in your mind? the areas i have grown up in, i know a lot of different people and families that would still be going through it now. it s not so much about my family any more because obviously the situation has changed andi obviously the situation has changed and ijust obviously the situation has changed and i just don t want obviously the situation has changed and ijust don t want people to go through the same things. it is just important to understand the place i have come from and my background, it is quite simple the reason why i would try and help people in that situation. you now have a really powerful voice, you have achieved this incredible thing in such a short space of time, you have a platform, a lot of attention focused on you, what is your next focus? now you have done this, what is next? obviously, this is only going to be successful throughout the summer period and then we have bought ourselves an extra six weeks of time now to sort of plan and figure out what s next and how we keep taking steps forward. because i don t want this to be the end of it, because there is definitely more steps that need to be taken. we just need to analyse the response and these types of topics are very important. like i said before, it wasn t something i was aware of beforehand, now i am aware and i will be watching that closely and see the response and how people cope with the situation and how it changes their lives for the better. the problems they might face with the system, so there is a lot of things that could change in the future and beyond this campaign. but we will have to see how it affects everyone. i am guessing then you would like this to continue, not just for this summer? definitely, summer just for this summer? definitely, summer isa just for this summer? definitely, summer is a period where people struggle, but other people are struggling all year round. we are starting to learn more about the situation people are in and how we can help them best and that is what is important. what is the best message you have received today? probably the calls from my mum, to be honest. those are the ones that are most important to me and it is nice to see her smiling. marcus rashford, thank you very much. no problem, thank you.” rashford, thank you very much. no problem, thank you. i think his mum will be one proud mum this money. marcus rashford is very much engaged in the free school meals over the summer in the free school meals over the summerand is in the free school meals over the summer and is engaging with it at every level. he is interested in perhaps broadening the type of supermarket that vouchers go to. he says perhaps that isn t a wide enough range of supermarket you can use the vouchers that, perhaps changing the type of food given out in schools, make it a little bit healthier and he is engaged at every level on this. expect a little bit more from him and there has been a huge reaction on social media, with many people praising marcus. on instagram, david beckham posted this picture of rashford with the caption, congratulations, what an amazing achievement to win this fight. you should be so proud i will have inspired many others to use their voices. john bishop, big liverpool fan, he put football rivalry aside to congratulate marcus. congratulations, he said you intrinsically know the right thing to do. carol vorderman shared her own experience. she wrote, i was a free school meal child through the 605. i remember being hungry and my mum crying with exhaustion working every hour 5he could. and one of the most powerful things marcu5 ra5hford has done over the last few days, he has managed to ta ke the last few days, he has managed to take away the elements, i think, of 5hame take away the elements, i think, of shame and embarrassment that families and kids that had about having to use the free school meal 5y5tem. having to use the free school meal system. some familie5 didn t want their kids to be on the list for it because they felt it was embarrassing. i think he has com pletely embarrassing. i think he has completely blown that apart now. i am really looking forward to whatever marcu5 ra5hford decides to do next. if anyone was watching this morning, that was the point made of a mum of fourin that was the point made of a mum of four in this programme, jane. she 5aid four in this programme, jane. she said what she feels has been di5cussed said what she feels has been discussed this week and pushed through by marcus ra5hford and others has really changed the conversation. carol vorderman talking about her mum. he is laughing about the fact his mum rang him ten times yesterday. all the praise, i5 him ten times yesterday. all the praise, is the fact that his mum is proud of him? someone 5aid proud of him? someone said to me, my teen mums make mighty men. isn t that true? there you go, i m going to write that down. stick a ha5htag on that. thank you very much. let s take a look now at who will be affected by the government s decision to extend the free meal5 voucher scheme. children in england are eligible for free school meals if they come from hou5ehold5 earning a maximum of £7,a00 a year and that s after tax and not including any benefits. there are different rules in wales, scotland and northern ireland. around 1.3 million children in england qualify for free school meals and demand is greatest in parts of london, the north and the midlands. the summer vouchers will be worth around £15 a week, per child. that will cost the taxpayer an extra £120 million, but the prime minister has said the scheme will not be repeated next summer. thi5 this is a reality and people are living with these facts and figures which means they are trying to make end5 which means they are trying to make ends meet. breakfast‘s jayne mccubbin has been meeting up again with some parents who rely on free school5 meal5 for their children. marcu5 ra5hford put out a tweet. anyone know who i can talk to in government about the food voucher scheme? do you remember being hungry? yeah, of course. it s taken a campaign by a 22 year old footballer to force you into action on free school meals. have you lost touch? one tweet, an open letter to governments, an interview on bbc breakfast and five days later. prime minister, will children go hungry this summer? ..government policy changed, along with the lives of 1.3 million young people this summer. that s why we ve got the covid summer food plan, which we ve announced today. yesterday, we d spoken to the families who d struggled through lockdown. oh yeah, this is definitely real life. and dreaded struggling through a summer without free school meal vouchers. at the moment, i have £50 a month to live on and without these vouchers, iju5t couldn t do it. i m terrified. i really am, i m so frightened. and i feel ashamed, really, that i am in the situation that i cannot support my family. this was a shame marcus rashford wanted to dispel by saying, i understand because i ve been there. i wanted to speak to you because there s been an announcement. the government has made a u turn. they re doing it? they are doing it. they are going to. ..they are going to give us vouchers over the summer holiday. wow! that s magnificent. wow! you have no idea how many people that s going to help. after news broke rashford who wrote in a tweet to mp5, was it tough for you to talk yesterday? yes. yes, it s been very difficult. mainly because i didn t want any. any repercussions for the family and it s actually been even worse today because i ve seen some really terrible, terrible tweets about people in my situation, absolutely vile. and i kind of think, am i doing the right thing speaking about this? and i hope it makes a few people think. if we have up to 8 million people made redundant injuly, as predicted, many will find themselves in the same position as me. they are as proud of their humble beginnings as marcus rashford is of his. you ve all been in his shoes? there is a stigma attached to that but for me i kind of own the label because there s nothing wrong with trying to navigate your way through such a difficult world, which it can be sometimes. so that s why i m not afraid to say i do get free school meals and i used it so that instead of focusing on what is not going to be on the table, i can focus on trying to better my life and others. all of us have had this additional layer of support and that in no way reflects on the type of people we are. no one should feel the stigma. from their free school meal start in life, these friends are flying. scholarships to eton, a level studies in the london academy of excellence, they are training to be barristers, entrepreneurs, the of game changers. what do you guys make of marcus rashford? he s great. he s an absolute legend. such a role model, he s been able to share his own experiences of growing up as a working class kid with a single mum taking care of him and his siblings. he did a really good thing. 22, 22 years old! how old are you guys? 17. 19. same. # 0h, marcus rashford. just 22 and inspired by his own mum, he spent his lockdown channelling £20 million through a charity to feed a00,000 children and trying to break the stigma around food poverty. it s not easy talking about the struggle to put food on your kids table? it s not. it s not easy to bare your soul to a whole load of people who don t know me, who mightjudge me. we ve won, we won today. it s a little miracle, but we won. brea kfast‘s jayne mccubbin with that report. thank you to everyone for talking to jane mccubbin as well. bringing us your story. whose fault is it we are late today? carol s. she is in a mood today. i stand here patiently everyday waiting and wondering when iam going everyday waiting and wondering when i am going to get on. there is a lot of fog around and low cloud as well. this is yorkshire and in middlesbrough it is quite dense. as we go through the course of the day we go through the course of the day we do have all that low cloud which has come in overnight from the north sea, pushing back towards the coastline. for many of us it will be sunshine and for some of us heavy and thundery, slow moving downpours. first thing this morning we do have all this low cloud that has drifted in and some of that has gone over towards the west, in cheshire for example. we have got showers in western areas and some of them have been thundery. we will continue with them as we go through the course of them as we go through the course of the day. in northern ireland quite a cloudy day for you with bright spells and showers. in wales, south west england, the midlands, east anglia, down towards the south coast and kent there are showers. we will not all see one, but if you catch one and it is slow moving, it is likely to be torrential with thunder and lightning and hail and it could well lead to issues with surface water flooding. temperatures 1a-22, still surface water flooding. temperatures 1a 22, still feeling quite humid. this evening and overnight we carry on with the showers for a time and they start to ease. once again the low cloud, mist and fog comes in from the north sea and we have got a weather front coming from the north sea and we have got a weatherfront coming in, bringing rain into east anglia, in the midlands and lincolnshire. it is going to be a mild night, but it will also be a humid one. tomorrow we have got this band of rain slowly moving northwards. we have had the low cloud, mist and fog pushing back towards the north sea coastline. scotla nd towards the north sea coastline. scotland and northern ireland will have not a bad day, drier and fewer showers. but as we come south we will see some showers and, like today, they will be slow moving, heavy and thundery, some with some hail. the met office has put out a weather warning for this. up to two inches of rainfall in just two hours. there could be issues with surface water flooding. like today it will be muggy, but for some temperatures down a degree on what we are looking at today. on friday the weather front drifts northwards and there will still be some showers around and cloud coming in from the north sea coastline. it burns back through the day. temperature wise we are looking at 1a 22 once again. if you are sick of this humidity, as we head into the weekend it will turn a little bit fresher. it has been an enjoyable morning locking horns with you. it has been good fun. very enjoyable. and down as well. it s all right, i forgot i was here. you fill in the bits in between the weather. you go off to do whatever you do now, see you later. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. and carol. we ve been hearing about a drug called dexamethasone this morning and how it could save the lives of those most seriously affected by coronavirus. clinical trials found that it cuts the risk of death by a third for patients on ventilators and a fifth for those on oxygen. professor tom solomon is the director of the uk s emerging infections unit at the university of liverpool. hejoins us now. good morning. we heard from boris johnson. he could not be more positive about this yesterday at the press co nfe re nce . positive about this yesterday at the press conference. was he right to be? he was absolutely right to be. this is fantastic news. we are very pleased in the medical community that at last we have a drug which will work in this terrible disease and which will save lives. tell us how it works. it is a steroid, so if you scratch your arm it goes red and angry and that is inflammation and thatis angry and that is inflammation and that is what is happening inside the lungs with people with severe covid-19. this lungs with people with severe covid 19. this drug, which has been used for decades for all sorts of information, it controls information and damps it down and that is making and damps it down and that is making a big difference to patients with severe covid 19. a big difference to patients with severe covid-19. what happens with the patient who is battling with covid-19, the body the patient who is battling with covid 19, the body fights, doesn t it? this looks at the level of how aggressively it fights? what happens is if you are infected with the virus and the body fights the virus to try and get rid of it, this is the inflammatory response. in fighting the virus it can also cause damage, it is like a friendly fire incident. so basically the body is trying so hard to fight the virus it is damaging itself. what it does is it calms it down and damps it down so it calms it down and damps it down so that people are surviving who otherwise would not survive. one of the other things we need to talk about, before we talk about the trial, this is not a cure, this is when people are still seriously ill and it has got to the point where they are being ventilated, that is where this will be most needed. they are being ventilated, that is where this will be most neededm the trial it was given to all the people in hospital with covid 19 and what the study has shown is it is effective with those who need oxygen or those who are so severely ill and in intensive care. with the milder patients the drug did not seem to make a difference. it is not going to stop people getting covid 19, so all the precautionary measures people have been taking for months, which are now easing, need to continue. people should not be going out partying and saying we should not worry about this disease. but what it means is if you do get the disease and you are admitted to hospital we have a drug which will reduce the death rate. what is amazing, and you have had several people come on over the years and talk about medical breakthroughs and you ask when it will make a difference, and they say we have to do five years of studies. they have done an experiment in a lab and they have shown it works in a laboratory animal, but this has shown it works in humans and it has been used as of last night. that is what is truly amazing. the advantage is that it has already been used, it is just in the context it is being used. the implication in terms of the global effect, people are concerned about a second wave and about how that will be coped with in terms of the nhs and the mortality rate as well. so we have this now and it is cheap and affordable, isn t it? globally this will be used ? affordable, isn t it? globally this will be used? it will be used globally. i was at a who meeting yesterday when the results of the trial were announced and there was a gobsmacked silence. it is important for people to understand how rare it is we have a drug like this that show such a big difference and it will be available in the interim. in this country it cost about £5 for a dose or £a0 for a cause. it will be much cheaper in lower and middle income countries because this is a drug that is available generically and is not controlled by a drug company and controlling the prices. at the end of the court yesterday people said they would use it. it is a really good example of british science leading the world and we should be proud as a country. it is also really important to thank all those families and patients who are willing to go in the study. it is important people go into research studies because it is only collectively we can work out what the best treatments are and the inevitable benefits. thank you very much for talking to me. i now have a vision of that call with gasps of i°y vision of that call with gasps of joy and all the scientists running out and just cheering. you have got it. tom sullivan, thank you very much. can wejust much. can we just see the liverpool shirt in the corner? this is also good news at the weekend, so things are looking up. we are talking about that because the premier league returns today and liverpool play in a few days time. we can go back to jane, who s at the etihad stadium in manchester. good morning. yes, the premier league is back after such a long wait, but there are lots of logistics that have had to be handled and lots of pressure to make sure this is right. the early kick off is at villa park where they host sheffield united. after that manchester city will host arsenal here at the etihad stadium and there will be many differences to this match. first and foremost, there will not be any fans in the stadium because it has to be from behind closed doors. it will be a strange atmosphere and those of us who have been watching the bundesliga and la liga have got used to that a bit. there have been discussions about when they can bring fans in, but for now they will have screens where you can see fans zooming in. so they can sort of celebrate when and if the players score goals. if they do score a goal, the players will not be allowed to celebrate with each other, they will have to have socially distanced celebrations. if there is any controversy on the pitch, they will not be allowed to crowd around the officials and remonstrate with the referees. the other noticeable difference is that for the first 12 matches of the restarted season the players will not have their names on the back of their shirts, they will have black lives matter on the back of their shirts, following the death of george floyd. the premier league say they will be supporting any player that wishes to take on knee even during and after the match. quite a few differences there. thank you very much. it is going to be very different in terms of like what we are going to see in terms of fans as well. yes, of course. as we mentioned, the fans will not be in the stadium, but a lot of them can zoom the stadium, but a lot of them can zoom in and they will be able to watch the matches because they will all be broadcast, all 92 of the remaining matches will be broadcast. but the reason that they cannot go into the stadium, of course they cannot be socially distancing, what has happened is the etihad stadium has happened is the etihad stadium has been deep clean, both inside and pitch side as well. only 300 people will be allowed in any of the premier league stadium as well. players have been tested twice a week as well. at the training ground there has been a testing station and they have been consulting with the clu b they have been consulting with the club doctors every morning for temperature checks. both the arsenal manager and pep guardiola, and mikel arteta, have had brushes with coronavirus and they will be ensuring that safety measures are enforced. thank you very much. you have set that up very well for us. you have set that up very well for us. two fans who ll have a keen eye on the etihad tonightjoin us now. arsenal fan amanda schiavi who hosts the highbury squad podcast is in romford, and rose adebiyi is a manchester city fan in london. good to talk to the peer review. rose, it has been a long time waiting. what are you feeling as football returns to the premier league tonight? i amjust football returns to the premier league tonight? i am just really, really excited. honestly, it has been such a long awaited time. i have been so bored over the weekends. especially the fact there has been no football. i know the bundesliga has been on, but it is not the same watching your actual football clu b not the same watching your actual football club play. i am excited to see what happens tonight, definitely with the fact we have got arsenal and it is a massive game. i am really looking forward to it. it will be magical tonight. amanda, what about you ? will be magical tonight. amanda, what about you? i imagine you would have travelled to see the game if it was allowed, but it will be different in terms of a spectator sport? it will be totally different andl sport? it will be totally different and i have been to the etihad stadium a couple of times and i would have loved to have gone, but it is what it is and thank god we have got back a bit of normality with our football today. how do you think it will affect your experience of the game? we know the players are not allowed to hassle the referee or shout at the referee with any decisions they disagree with. there will not be any big hugs in terms of celebration and they have not got the roar of the crowds.” celebration and they have not got the roar of the crowds. i know, it will be interesting to see how players adapt to playing in an empty stadium. asi players adapt to playing in an empty stadium. as i was discussing yesterday, form goes out the window, there is no momentum, there is no form at the moment, we have not played for months. it will be totally different. i watched the bundesliga last week and it was odd, to be honest, but again it was not my team, so maybe tonight it will be a different experience. it will be quieter. rose, iam a different experience. it will be quieter. rose, i am sure you have been keeping an eye what has been happening in germany as well and fans will be thinking we have got to get used to a different way of watching football. i remember i watched a brescia document match and it was so weird. even though dortmund scored four goals, i felt there was not really like and atmosphere. i think it is going to be so weird tonight. i am so used to us celebrating a lot and fans together. i don t know, it is going together. i don t know, it is going to be so awkward, but i do know there will be an option where we can do something on tv, so maybe that will help. i don t know how it will affect the footballers if they can t hear the fans cheering, it will be quite odd. i have a suggestion. thank you both so much. you might like this. there is a concern about the atmosphere. do a big skype or zoom the atmosphere. do a big skype or zoom call with all your friends who are fans in the same team so that when the team scores, you can all cheer at the same time. you can make noise yourself. we have agreed on something. the other game is aston villa against sheffield united and there is commentary on both those matches on bbc radio 5 live. some sad news to report this morning the snooker player willie thorne has died. he s been undergoing treatment for leukaemia in spain and a go fund me page to raise money for his medical care has reported his death. he reached two world championship quarter finals and won his only ranking title in 1982. he became a host in the corporate circuit as well. you will have seen it early on the news today. i can t believe he was so young, he was only 66. there was a time when snooker was pa rt there was a time when snooker was part of your everyday life and you turned in and watched it for hours and hours. our condolences to his family and friends. iam sure family and friends. i am sure that comes as sad news to many of our viewers this morning as well. it s notjust the crowds that will be missing from tonight s premier league games. the players names will also be notably absent from their shirts. for the first 12 matches, all players names will be replaced by the slogan black lives matter in a show of support for the global protests sparked by the death in police custody of george floyd. breakfast‘s graham satchell has been talking to three players about their experiences of racism, both on and off the pitch. even in the area i live in, a white dominant area, you do get looked at differently. my team mate was upset, i was upset, the whole team was upset. you do feel it every day and it s not the greatest, but you learn to deal with it and at times you don t even notice it. three watford players, one in the first team, one in the ladies team and one in the academy and their experience of racism in this country today. as a young black boy i ve grown up to adapt. it s not having bananas thrown at me and people shouting racial slurs down the street that happens every day, it s the racial the racial bias that happens. getting pulled over by the police for no reason, from being followed around the shop and those sorts of things that happen on a day to day basis. it s not acceptable that i ve just learned to adapt in someone else s world. i was born here, i m from england and i feeljust as much a part of this country as anyone else but i get treated differently because if they see my name on a cv that i give in to go and get a job, automatically i am profiled because it s not an english name. that doesn t mean i m not english myself, but because i ve got an african name it s like put that to the side see someone an african name it s like put that to the side and see someone else s cv first. it started on the pitch and one of them must have called my team mate the n word and we told the ref straightaway but he just seemed to like dismiss it and we felt vulnerable. to be honest i still felt frustrated and quite upset and shocked that someone could go out of their way to be that spiteful. the struggle against racism has been a long one. andre gray has used his body as a canvas to pay tribute to past heroes, mandela, malcolm x, marcus garvey, rosa parks. from top to bottom things need to change. i feel like finally we might actually have something to push forward and push for change. the push for change has seen protests around the world and win and when the premier league stars again tonight players will wear shirts with black lives matter on the back. they will also take the knee. it is a solemn protest against all forms of racism. as marcus rashford has shown in recent days, football has a unique power in this country to influence and effect change. what marcus and people like andre and troy are doing i think it s amazing, having black lives matter on the back of football shirts. the more you see something, the more you pay attention to it and the more you kind of spark and interest and i think that s what needs to be done here, to spark an interest. it is notjust in america, that this probably happens, it s here as well in this country and we can t be blind to it any more. here at watford they have worked hard to be inclusive and break down barriers. they are planning changes to the curriculum talk to children in their academy. if this is a of change, then football is playing its part. that will resonate as well. quite a bit to think about. if you don t like football, you might as well turn off your telly for a few weeks. really? yes. perhaps if you are watching, it will give you more inspiration to get fit during lockdown. some people have been motivated to get out because the weather has been good. some have developed lockdown love handles. that is a new phrase. dan was educating me about them earlier. john maguire does not have them. he is as buff as ever and he is in bristol, talking about how the industry is in adapting. good morning. it has been such a strange time of course. for people who were into fitness, when lockdown started you were always able to go for a run, to cycle or to walk and then it has increased over the couple of weeks. you can see the clifton suspension bridge in the background and parks right across the uk will now have this sort of thing, an outdoor gym if you like. social distancing, of course. with james being closed, the earliest they will openin being closed, the earliest they will open in england may be the ath of july, which is the point where organised fitness gets back into full swing. marcusjones, you have had a strange time yourself. you just got a newjob in a gym and all ofa just got a newjob in a gym and all of a sudden you have had to adapt and improvise and overcome. of a sudden you have had to adapt and improvise and overcomem of a sudden you have had to adapt and improvise and overcome. it has been the same for everyone in the fitness industry. we have had to look at other ways to do ourjobs and usually that takes the form of online workouts. i host instagram work out everyday. it is day 87 in a row today. it forces people to look at how they are working and find new ways to motivate people. it has really shown how much people value gyms as not just really shown how much people value gyms as notjust an exercise space, but as a community space, somewhere they can go for a bit of therapy. things are going well right now, but we are looking forward to them being open. there is the social aspect of a gym, but exercise is so important for mental health. obesity could be a real ticking time bomb for the future. with lockdown it is easy to sit down and not do very much and that has a circular effect where you end up feeding into a negative loop. the good thing about exercise is that anything is truly better than nothing. just because thejim ishaq and you cannot work out seven days a week does not mean you need to stop completely. any amount of exercise is good, even if it is just 20 minutes a day, a few days a week. that will be beneficial for your mental and physical health and make you better and make this whole thing goa you better and make this whole thing go a lot quicker. thank you very much indeed and thank you to the quys much indeed and thank you to the guys exercising here this morning so early. a little bit is better than nothing, as marcus says. we will put a video of markers on social media as well so you can get an idea of what to do at home to kick start a routine. we are not seeing you working out, john? i have got this poll, check this out. very heavy. we ve had plenty of football talk today, so here s a treat for rugby fans. particularly welsh rugby fans. warren gatland was the head coach who guided wales to four six nations titles, including three grand slams and two world cup semi finals. he will be talking to us in a moment. he will be talking to us in a moment. now he s back home in new zealand and has just released his autobiography. warren joins us now from the city of hamilton, on the north island. good morning. iam good morning. i am sure it is a different time, good evening to you. thank you for being with us. good to talk to you. rugby fans will know that you are back working, back playing, with fans in the stadium, and your own son scored winning points against you at the weekend. good morning. yes, we got ourselves in front and then unfortunately turned the ball over in the last couple of minutes and he kicked the winning drop goal. delighted for him, but disappointed for us to lose in the last minute. but a lot of excitement back in new zealand, we are kind of back to normal and there was a big crowd on saturday and a big crowd in auckland on sunday and we expect to be playing the blues on sunday and we are expecting over 20,000, so really excited about that. i am interested about the game in terms of how people felt about conflict because it was the first big sporting event and there was a responsibility in terms of not putting this pandemic completely behind you because so many people have succumbed, but moving forward with life and that integration that sport brings to so many.” with life and that integration that sport brings to so many. i think in fairness to the government we have been through different stages in terms of the lockdown and we have had a couple of cases today, but we have not had any cases for 20 odd days, so we have been very lucky. we shut down the borders, so we have been pretty much back to normalfor the last three or four weeks. we thought initially the first four games would be games played in empty stadiums, but we were lucky enough to get back to level one and that means to get back to level one and that m ea ns pretty to get back to level one and that means pretty much back to normal apart from the borders being closed. that means bars and restaurants and nig htclu bs that means bars and restaurants and nightclubs and social gatherings and music festivals and luckily sport being pretty much back to normal. we are incredibly lucky here in new zealand and we are very aware of what is happening elsewhere in the world and how other countries at the moment are not anywhere near as fortu nate moment are not anywhere near as fortunate as we are. we don t have much time on the programme today. it is lovely to have you on. what comes across in the book is how close and how much you enjoyed your time at wales and how close you came to success at world cup finals. also, i love the fact that you have always been a prickly interviewee and if i ask you a stupid question, you called me out on the stupid question. i loved my time there and it was 12 fantastic years. the people were brilliant. if it wasn t for the welsh public and the fans and just how hospitable they were i wouldn t have lasted that long. it was challenging because there was a huge amount of expectation and i made some great friends and there will always be a special place in my heart for wales and the time that i spent there and the people that i met. i think you are playing down your prickly nurse. i quite like it personally. your book, pride and passion, you are a man who wanted to be the best and your book is going up be the best and your book is going up against eddie james be the best and your book is going up against eddiejames book. which one is going to win the telegraph book of the year? it is just a game. no, this is the book, yours is up against his. we will wait and see. i have been lucky enough to get a couple of wins against him in the past, so if one of us is lucky enough to get the accolade, the other will have to give the either a couple of drinks and a meal. good luck in the future and thank you for talking to us. warren s book is called pride and passion: my autobiography. that s all from breakfast today. have a good day. this is bbc news with the latest headlines. a steroid drug shown to be able to save the lives of coronavirus patients is now available for hospital patients across the uk. it is the single biggest scientific breakthrough the world has yet made and i pay tribute to the researchers at oxford university

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we are now learning how the gunman at the paris kosher supermarket took what are called go pro video of his deadly assault with a camera attached to his body. there is new information about what he did then with those images. isis launching a sudden and bloody attack on a major city. gunfire echoing through the oil center of kirkuk as security forces try to drive the terrorists out. the ranking member of the house armed services committee, congressman adam smith, is standing by along with our correspondents and analysts. let s begin with our chief national security correspondent, jim sciutto, and our cnn terrorism analyst, paul cruickshank. paul first of all, what do we know about the video? we know the video was seven minutes long it s being seen by investigators and features amedy coulibaly shooting dead three hostages as he stormed that grocery store, that jewish grocery store in paris earlier this month. according to the technical analysis of the french it was e-mailed from a computer in that store to some form of associate of coulibaly and the fear is that this is now going to hit the jihadi web sites, it s going to be put out by a group like isis for propaganda purposes. how significant would this be, jim? it s news u.s. intelligence also aware of this video coulibaly had a camera and filmed the attacks. how significant is it? it would provide really a minute by minute reel in effect of the moments of the attack as he went in there and sadly, as he carried out killings of those hostages. the fact is at this point, many of those details are already known. i think the bigger concern at this point would be the propaganda value of this attack as it goes out presumably it does go out, which would have been his intention as a recruiting tool but a demonstration of his powers. as you know this is isis supreme focus, demonstrating that power as best they can. and paul that go pro video camera that was attached right to his chest, right? reporter: it was attached to his torso so he was deliberately filming this. according to eyewitnesses he was even doing some video editing during this hostage situation in this jewish grocery store in paris before he was killed. the concern is he managed to send it out to some kind of associate. he had actually already previously sent out some video to another associate featuring him declaring loyalty to abu bakr al baghdadi filmed from an apartment in paris just after the charlie hebdo attacks. the worry is there s much more gruesome video that will hit jihadi web sites, perhaps pro-isis twitter feeds, soon. i guess the question is why hasn t it hit those websites yet? it s been awhile right? a similar question as to why haven t you seen word of this jordanian pilot hostage. sometimes this group takes their time. they have to produce it. they also have increasing challenge in getting this video out of there because it s difficult to transmit in a war environment. you ve got u.s. planes overhead et cetera. that s also a problem. do they have a clue who the accomplices were that might have been on the receiving end of the go pro video? reporter: i think they probably know but they are not revealing that yet at this point. they are investigating all of this. of course we do know that hayat boumeddiene, his companion, is now suspected to be in syria so that raises the possibility was he e-mailing her. that s a possibility. let me turn to iraq right now. jim, there is now word isis launching its own offensive against the kurdish oil-rich town of kirkuk in northern iraq. that s right. coordinated attack. it was a surprise attack. it took advantage of a foggy morning as they moved in. it shows the level of coordination possible and skill of isis and also to project its power on multiple fronts at one time. you have this jordanian pilot being held hostage presumably in syria, in areas that isis controls in syria. here you have a coordinated aggressive bold assault in iraq even as isis has been under pressure there. the kurds as you know have been pushing up against mosul which is really isis main strong hold iraq s second largest city trying to cut off supply lines there. now you have them doing an end-around you might say, attacking another powerful city in the north and inflicting serious damage. a senior kurdish commander killed right in the center of town. this was a big deal and it shows their ability to project power on multiple fronts at the same time. certainly and further complicating all of this horrible situation in iraq right now, there are these reports of a massacre that occurred that a shiite militia group, iraqi shiite militia group, went and massacred iraqi sunnis killing 60 or 70 people including kids and women no women, but children and the shock is they did this while iraqi military forces were there surrounding all of them. the iraqi military stood by and didn t intervene. this is an alarming accusation. i have spoken to the state department. they say an investigation is still under way. they also say the new prime minister of iraq he has said all the right things and promised to do the right things in terms of reining in shiite militia. this has been a long term problem in iraq, particularly under the previous minister the shiite militias were given free rein and many times they committed atrocities which helped fuel support among sunni tribes for isis as it advanced across the country. a key element of fighting back against isis has been getting sunni tribes on the side of the iraqi government iraqi security forces and the coalition. an attack like this if it proves true would go a long way in undermining that confidence. serious allegation. it would so inflame the passion, the anger which is already enormous to begin with and the split between shiites and sunnis it would be a disaster. inflame the passion and also increase the support for people like isis. and raise questions about that iraqi military. is it doing what it s supposed to do. why didn t they intervene and stop what allegedly was a massacre. stand by. more on this part of the story coming up. meanwhile, the surprise attack by isis comes as a prisoner swap has stalled. jordan has been willing to trade a jailed female terrorist for one of its pilots captured in syria but without proof of life the exchange has been on hold. the fate of the pilot and japanese hostage unclear. so why is isis so interested in gaining the release of this failed suicide bomber? brian todd is looking into this part of the story. what are you finding out? reporter: one analyst says for the past several years, hardly anyone in jordan or iraq has paid any attention to this woman and quote, even her own tribe didn t care about her. tonight, sajida al rishawi is one of the most important people in the world with isis a key bargaining chip. what one isis supporter calls an imprisoned sister. tonight, this woman, seen in a suicide vest is at the center of intense negotiations between isis and one of america s closest allies. this female suicide bomber becomes something that has generally captured the imagination when we talk about her in the media. there is this shock and awe. reporter: the terror group wants jordan to exchange sajida al rishawi for this japanese hostage. jordan is looking for a deal. they want their pilot back who was recently captured by isis. a mideast official tells cnn isis is engaging in psychological warfare and it swirls around this woman who, until this moment had been largely forgotten for nine years. languishing in a jordanian prison. november 2005 sajida al rishawi and her husband are part of a band of suicide bombers who attacked three hotels in jordan. by all accounts al rishawi had little or no romantic connection to her husband. they had married just days before to make it easier for them to get into jordan from iraq and sneak into a wedding celebration in oman. in a televised confession al rishawi described the mission. translator: my husband took a porter and i took another one. there was a wedding in the hotel. there was women and children. my husband executed and detonated his belt. i tried to detonate mine but i failed. reporter: al rishawi ran from the scene and was later captured. her husband and their cohorts killed nearly 60 people in three locations. sajida al rishawi had reportedly been motivated purely by revenge. we do know that one of her eldest brothers was very close to an al qaeda commander and was given charge of some part of the region and that her first husband was also a part of al qaeda and two other brothers were killed all killed by americans in the operations in iraq. reporter: one of the brothers who was killed was a top lieutenant to the murderous leader of al qaeda in iraq. analysts say that brother could have been close to al baghdadi the current leader of isis. with its deep and personal connection to sajida al rishawi, what would isis do with her if she s brought back into the fold? she is probably not a great jihadi operative. i don t think they need her as a leader. there is no evidence that she has leadership qualities. what she is is a propaganda piece. what she is is someone you put in front of the camera and she says the right things and she praises isis for even nine years later, never forgetting about her. matthew levitt says al rishawi has achieved something for isis that it s really never had, something it s desperately craved equal footing in negotiations with a top u.s. ally. she gives isis at least the appearance of some legitimacy as a state even if only temporarily. an extraordinary situation right now playing out as we speak. here s the question. if she is released by jordan in exchange for the pilot, and say maybe the japanese journalist could she conceivably become a suicide bomber? analysts we spoke to say it s possible but right now it s unlikely. isis has not really used women as suicide bombers, has not even placed them on the front lines of combat. what s interesting is the predecessor of isis al qaeda in iraq didn t hesitate to use women as suicide bombers. used several of them. the very day this woman and her husband launched those attacks in jordan another woman was sent a blond, blue-eyed belgian, blew herself up and killed three u.s. soldiers the same day this woman and her husband were launching attacks in jordan. thanks very much brian todd. let s go in depth on all of this and more. joining us the ranking member of the house armed services committee and the democratic congressman, adam smith of washington state. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. we have lots to discuss. let s go through several issues. first of all, this apparently new isis strategy trying to move into the oil-rich kurdish town of kirkuk in northern iraq. what s going on here? it s part of an ongoing battle. they are fighting against the kurds, trying to control mosul and they are trying to open a new front. the most troubling thing in your report there is the continuing inability of the iraqi government to get a true power sharing arrangement between the shia and the sunni so the iraqi military can become a more effective force. the kurds are fighting and fighting well but they are simply not large enough if they don t have the iraqi security forces fully on their side. we are not there yet. i think isis senses a vulnerability. obviously kirkuk is oil rich a place they would love to control. they already control mosul, the second largest city in iraq. the iraqi army abandoned their positions, ran away when the isis forces came in. i spoke earlier today with your democratic colleague, adam schiff of california the ranking democrat on the intelligence committee. he seemed pretty alarmed by these reports of a massacre. some iraqi shiite militia went into some sunni town massacred 60 people if not more. while iraqi military forces were standing by watching what was going on. have you heard about this? i have only heard what has been reported. i have not heard anything beyond that. if it s true it is a major, major problem and points back to the fact the iraqi government simply hasn t made the changes necessary. even after malaki has left they have not made changes that would bring the sunnis across and get a new power sharing arrangement. if we are stuck with a civil war, that s exactly what isis wants. how does all of this relate to mosul? would you recommend putting more u.s. military advisors near the front line? because supposedly the iraqi military backed by the kurds, ready to launch some sort of offensive to try to retake that city. i think we still have to continue to help them train them and provide the air support that we have provided. i think it s just too important. we cannot allow a group like isis to control uncontested large swaths of territory. we have already seen that they will launch attacks against western targets. they will launch attacks in europe and try to launch them in the u.s. we need partners there locally who can fight them. the kurds have done a pretty good job. we just need the iraqis to step up and do a better job. you think this new prime minister is doing the job? are you confident he s going to be much of an improvement? not yet. i am not confident. the problems run deeper than one person. from what i have seen i think he would like to try to make some of those changes but he still has a lot of people to answer to within the broader iraqi government who don t seem willing to make the changes. stand by congressman. we have a lot more to discuss, including the latest on a potential swap for that terrorist, that woman terrorist in jordan in exchange for that jordanian fighter pilot, maybe the japanese journalist held by isis. 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well, it s a difficult situation. obviously you don t want to empower isis to go out and continue to kidnap people in exchange for ransom. but it is a similar situation for jordan. it s just the lines are very blurred. this is not a traditional war in the sense of world war ii or the ones we grew up reading about. terrorism and warfare blur lines and make for some very very difficult decisions. well said. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. thank you, wolf. coming up a surprise attack by isis on a major city. a desperate, bloody battle under way as security forces try to repel the assault. our experts are standing by to tell us what this means. plus are there any credible threats against the super bowl on sunday? pamela brown asked the fbi s top counterterrorism official during an exclusive visit to the government s command center for the latest assessment. recently, a 1954 mercedes-benz grand prix race car made history when it sold for a record price of just under $30 million. and now, another mercedes-benz makes history selling at just over $30,000. and to think this one actually has a surround-sound stereo. the 2015 cla. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services. 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been exaggerated and turned out not to be true. i think we have to wait a bit. but i wouldn t be surprised if something like this did occur. what is so shocking you know this because you were there, you were the u.s. ambassador the u.s. spent billions and billions and billions of dollars training these iraqi troops. a, they simply abandoned their positions as soon as some isis guys started coming in from syria, left their weaponry their tanks, armored personnel carriers simply abandoned a city of mosul with nearly two million people. if this is true they were simply observing a massacre. what s going on here? several things. first of all, they did abandon mosul but actually many units have held up pretty well since then. we haven t had any kind of flight like that since june. secondly i look at the bottle as half full. first thing is we don t have iraqi troops themselves killing civilians and i have seen that before at times. but these militias are bad news under any and all circumstances. they are quite capable of doing this and it s quite possible the iraqi troops let me get colonel reese s reaction. what s your reaction when you hear about these kinds of reports, iraqi troops simply standing by and watching an alleged massacre? i agree with the ambassador. i have seen it both sides, from all my time in iraqi fighting and now with the company there, i have still seen it. we have to kind of sit back and wait to see what happens. but i also believe this could be an opportunity by isis with their propaganda machine to show this type of thing and dwell and cause that turmoil in there. so i m going to stand back. but we have seen it. we have to watch very closely and see what comes out in the next couple days. i think the colonel is absolutely right. if in fact this is true isis will exploit this. of course. because al qaeda in iraq which is the parent organization of isis always exploited these things. we may not be the nicest guys in the world but at least we will defend you if you are a sunni civilian. that has been their message consistently in iraq. the fear is that something like this could really generate a lot more volunteers sunni iraqis, to join isis. yeah. well, we have seen reports from the head of special operations command that a thousand fighters are still coming into iraq now, today, just last week he said this. so you know unfortunately centcom may be killing 200 fighters a week as we heard from the head of centcom but if you have 1,000 foreign fighters coming in, that s pretty much a wash. what s your analysis ambassador of this latest battle that s going on in the northern iraqi city of kirkuk which has a lot of oil and supposedly the kurds are in charge but isis is trying to move in right now. right. in the end i think the kurds will hold it. here s the point, wolf. this is a propaganda strike by isis just like the hostage situation with the jordanians and japanese just like the way they will exploit as peter said these reports of a massacre whether it occurred or not. we are dealing with a foe that is very very savvy on public relations and propaganda and they strike back in various ways. kirkuk is under dispute by sunni arabs, even some shia arabs up there and two factions of the kurds and this is a very sensitive point for many many iraqis and the kurds are going to have to hold this. they will have a lot of explaining to do. one of the problems though colonel, the kurds completely always complain about this is the u.s. isn t really directly supplying them with weaponry. it s got to go through the shiite-led government of baghdad. some of it might get to the kurds, some of it might not. they seem to be so frustrated. as you know the iraqi kurds are very good fighters and they want to do the right thing but they are so frustrated. yeah i mean i fought with the kurds and i know several of their leadership. they are very good from their infantry tactics but the ambassador was right. the sovereign nation of iraq that s the diplomatic side of it, and so the kurdistan is part of iraq. they have a vice president for those pieces. we are trying to do the right thing. but we also need to understand the peshmerga are getting weapons from other places, too. they might be lashing out at the americans but they are getting from other places. they are trying to play both hands sometimes. let s get to this other story. it was our lead this amedy coulibaly, the terrorist who went into the kosher supermarket, killed all those people over there, those four jews in the kosher supermarket, he was wearing this video camera on his torso on his chest, this go pro video, and it was actually feeding the video to someone on the outside, and there is great fear now that video is going to be posted on some isis or some al qaeda website for propaganda purposes. give us an explanation of what s going on here. well, it wouldn t surprise me in the least if it was true because if you go back to the westgate mall attack in kenya, remember the twitter feed that al shabab which did the attack had some of the most accurate information. the fact that terrorist organizations are using twitter and facebook and we have seen this with isis isn t really surprising. they tend to be young guys who are computer savvy, reasonably smart, and they are going to use whatever s available to get their message out. you agree, i assume that this could be a propaganda bonanza for a group like isis or aqap. combined with everything else we have seen look what you have presented to your viewers this last half an hour. this is really very troublesome because it multiplies and adds up and makes people think things are out of control. what do you do about this colonel? what can the world do about what s going on right now? well the whole go pro thing is something that s come up over the last couple years. the other thing isis will do is they will use it for themselves to after action review if they can get ahold of 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a recruiting tool but he said kids in america as young as 15 years old are online talking to isis militants. it s a big concern that there is such big volume now of americans online interacting with them. he also talked about sleeper cells. of course a big question are there sleeper cells in the u.s. of course we will have more of his interview coming up next week. also why haven t authorities arrested foreign fighters who have come back from syria after fighting with isis and are now on u.s. soil. i asked him why haven t they been arrested why haven t they been prevented from coming back to the u.s. he gives us the answers we will hear next week. maybe you can give us a clue. what did he say? we have to wait and see but basically he talked about how the bar is so high before you can bring a prosecution. prosecute someone. they are monitoring these people watching these, surveillance but they don t have enough yet to go ahead and actually arrest them? that s what you know the challenge of syria is an intelligence black hole. how do they know for certain this person was fighting with isis? they might have concern clues but do they have enough to build that case to prevent that person from coming back to the u.s. he talked about how it s impossible to keep track of all the americans going back and forth. his biggest concern, he said is what he doesn t know. those americans that aren t on his radar. looking forward to more of this interview next monday. thanks very much pamela brown. good work. thank you. be sure to tune in tomorrow for cnn s super bowl special. rachel nichols and special guest dan marino they co-host kickoff in arizona, saturday afternoon 4:30 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. up next we saw the lights come on in a surprise when a drone flew over the white house this week. in a moment you will see what s being done right now to stop anyone from flying a drone over the super bowl. and at the top of the hour a new front opens up in the war with isis. they 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protect one of the largest sporting events from rogue drone operators, threatening arrest and hefty fines for anyone who violates the super bowl no drone zone. over the super bowl. the federal aviation administration warning rogue operators to keep drones away from the big game. it s a major safety and security concern. somebody could just fly that drone into the crowd and injure a few people. perhaps there is something on the drone that s could cause even if it s an explosion, but enough to cause a small panic or a panic on the ground. reporter: the secret service scrambled to ensure a drone that flew over the white house was not a bigger event. sporting events are not immune. this drone that flew over a soccer match. big league stadiums are a big atrangs for drone enthusiasts in the the united states. law enforcement is threatening an interception if anyone tries it this sunday. if we see somebody operating a drone or in preparation of operating a drone, we will make contact and address the individual up to and including arrest. reporter: the nfl says the league is increasingly finding drones at stadiums. in the past year 12 drones have landed around stadiums on game day. the nfl will have explosive teams ready to swoop in if a drone makes its way on to the playing field. during last year s all star game major league baseball used a drone detection system scanning the sky above the stadium. it wouldn t be able to stop a drone from flying over. this man is the former chief of safety for the air force. his company now makes drone detection systems. benefit is you can tell that it s there before it becomes a threat. so that you have time for the decision makers to decide on what they do with it. reporter: authorities and the nfl are being tight lipped about whether they are using so-called drone detection systems around the stadium on sunday. you do know that drones have sparked safety and security concerns. the faa has received dozens of reports of drones nearly hitting planes. after a drone landed at the white house, the president says the incident highlighted the need for stronger regulations. the faa has been delayed in issuing the long awaited rules for the growing industry. it is growing. thank you. with us now here in the situation room our law enforcement reporter. thanks very much. we have they are simple the drones. you can buy one for $500. potentially, tom, these could be pretty dangerous. they can be extremely dangerous. they go from $50 to a couple thousand depending on how large the aircraft is. we have had ones that are models of aircraft that you could attach 50 pounds of explosives and send it in. the problem is they are trying to develop a way to jam the electronic signal. you can imagine at a super bowl if you are jamming signals it you have tv law enforcement has to talk to each other, use cell phones, use radios. god forbid if the quarterbacks couldn t hear their signals. there is a concern of how they can stop these in a crowded event. could there could be 70 or 80,000 people. what are you hearing about the serious concern, the no drone zone? we know that the homeland security department is working with the local police department there and the national counterterrorism center. they will have certain capabilities. for instance we know they can jam the signals the communication between an operator and one of these drones for instance, to try to make it crash immediately. we know that they have these detection systems. we don t know what exactly they will use at the super bowl. but they do have them. the problem is as you said what do you do how do you find the people operating these? let s say there s a drone coming in tom. they spot the drone. do they shoot it? what do they do? that s a good question. let s say the drone has some sort of plastic explosives or anthrax or some horrible device on board. the problem is if they shoot at it the bullets will come down on the people at the stadium. if they fire a rocket it has to come down. they can t put 100,000 people out there with butterfly nets. i think that jamming a particular signal if they can detect it is the only answer in the long run or we will face this for a long time. you see how simple these drones are. this is lightweight. it can fly. you can control it from your living room or whatever. it flies around. we saw what happened at the white house. apparently the guy who was monitoring this drone or conducting it was ten blocks away. the biggest problem is that these things as popular as they are becoming the communication system is very flimsy. sometimes someone loses control of it without knowing what they re doing. i saw on line a company that made the drone that flew into the white house lawn has received hundreds of complaints about them flying away and getting away. the guy is controlling it and suddenly it s off on its own and they can t bring it back. like losing your wi-fi signal. that s what happens. a serious 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to new questions about the prisoner swap that freed a u.s. soldier and is it having dangerous consequences? terror video. the images of the kosher supermarket attack that the world hasn t seen before. new information about the pictures recorded by the gunman in the midst of the rampage. romney says no just when he seeped open to running for president of the united states again. the republican says never mind. who gains most from his decision? we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i m wolf blitzer. you are in the situation room. let s get right to breaking news. cnn confirming that the paris terrorist had a camera and recorded his bloody rampage as it was happening. stand by for new information on that. breaking right now, an attack by isis terrorists. they are taking their fight for land and power to new territory. a strategic oil-rich city. the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee is standing by along with our correspondents analysts covering the news breaking right now. first, let s get to the paris terror attacks and the shocking video taken by the gunman at that kosher supermarket. cnn confirms he was recording in the midst of the slaughter. the gunman had a go-pro camera strapped to his body. authorities believe he e-mailed the video to terror i haves sistterrorists. that comes from a reporter who has been doing joint reporting with cnn. let s get more information. what are you learning paul? it s a seven-minute video. french investigators have watched it. it showed amedy coulibaly storming in and killing three people that he is filming from the go-pro camera on his torso. they have established that he e-mailed out the video to some kind of accomplice. the fear is this will emerge on a jihadi website. we saw a previous video that he put out emerge on a pro-isis twitter stream. so concern that the horrendous video images are going to soon hit jihadi websites. the concern is specifically that he was recording on this go-pro video strapped to his chest if you will when he murdered those four jewish men in the kosher supermarket? is that what they suspect? they have seen the video, french investigators, of the horrible murders taking place in the jewish supermarket. they have now established through technical assessments of the computers that they recovered from the supermarket that he managed to e-mail out this footage to some kind of associate somewhere. they suspect somebody with ties to a jihadist group. the worries that this footage will get out there, it s going to be used by propaganda purposes by a group like isis. kshl amedy coulibaly swore allegiance although he wasn t formally part of the terrorist group. see if the videos surface on the isis or al qaeda social media sites. let s get to the other breaking stories, the attack by isis terrorists. our national security correspondent jim sciutto is joining us. more on what s going on here. reporter: this was a large, surprise assault on an important city in the north. fighters advancing under fog killing the most senior kurdish commander and sparking a gun battle. it s a powerful demonstration of isis ability to project power on multiple fronts at once. a new front in the war against isis. isis militants launching a coordinated surprise attack on the oil rich iraqi city of. they fight back against isis fighters in center of town. here kurdish fighters raid the building to retake control. it s no surprise to us that they contain or can demonstrate the at built to continue to reek violence. reporter: isis advanced seen burning tents. among the dead there, kurdish commander, shown here in an interview last summer. he was the highest ranking commander there. representative adam schiff ranking member on the house intelligence committee, sees isis desperate to demonstrate its strength. isis is feeling a lot of pressure. they have lost ground in the kurdish areas. they lost ground to iraqi special forces. they had the lost in kobani. they are very lethal but they are worried about pressure being put on mosul and supply lines being cut off to mosul. reporter: iraqi forces are planning a major assault to retake mosul, possibly as early as the spring. kurdish forces have launched attacks to cut off isis supply lines to the city. tonight the fate of isis hostages the jordanian pilot and japanese journalist remains in a painful limbo. more than 20 244 hours after the deadline passed still no proof of life or otherwise. the only update japan s government spokesperson can offer today was there is nothing i can tell you. new developments. central command announcing an air strike killed an isis chemical expert. the strike took place january 24 near mosul in the north. isis predecessor who joined in 2005. it reminds you isis has its roots going back a decade to al qaeda in iraq. remember the u.s. coalition declared victory over al qaeda in iraq. isis came back. it s unusual for the u.s. military central command to announce not only that they announce strikes all the time. but they announced the targeted killing of an individual of an isis commander. that s unusual, isn t it? it is. but they have done it for senior commanders before. watching this announcement come out as we have seen this through the year it reminds me of covering the iraq war when you would have announcements of who who was killed and with great fanfare when you would kill the leader or senior leader of some of the organizations with the impression given that by doing that you strike in a decisive blow. but we know they get replaced quickly. this one had knowledge of kep chemical weapons. fair point. thanks jim sciutto. officials in jordan and japan are trying to get information about the citizens held captive by isis and whether they are dead or alive. what are you learning over there, will? reporter: it s frustrating right now, wolf for the japanese government and jordanian government the lack of a direct line of communication with isis. monitoring social media accounts for postings about this terror group s next move is one of the only ways that information is coming in. there are a number of unconfirmed reports. isis has had direct contact with the wife of one of the hostages kenji goto. their last threat was ominous saying that if she did not do her part to expose their propaganda to the world that they threatened to kill her husband. of course that s in addition to the threat to kill the jordanian pilot. the key issue here the key problem is that you have a world power like japan, a yeejregional power like jordan that are being forced to wait on a terror group like isis that appears to be trying to drag this out to elevate their own status. they have continued to dominate the headlines for more than a week now. yet these governments, because two innocent lives are on the line they have no choice at this moment but to do what they can to try to work out a deal with a group even as there are increasing fears and increasing questions about whether isis is serious about a prisoner swap or if they are trying to keep this going as long as possible playing a game with the two major governments. let s hope the two host anlages are released soon. thank you. breaking news. i want to get to barbara starr. she finished an exclusive interview with the outgoing defense secretary. he was very candid with you about your reporting on the swap of the prisoners, the five taliban prisoners for beau bergdahl the pressure he has been under. tell us what he told you. reporter: wolf secretary is just a few days away from leaving office. tonight he gave us this interview and surprised us with his candor. we started by talking about that swap five for one for beau bergdahl and the program that he is in charge of to release prisoners, detainees from guantanamo bay. he had an awful lot to say. the five for one still the right decision in your mind? absolutely it was the right decision. it was the right decision barbara, because we don t leave our troops behind. that has been the culture of the american millyitary since george washington. it was clear that bergdahl was a prisoner of war. the circumstances surrounding that we have investigated. that investigation is over. i am absolutely as committed to that decision today as when the decision was made. it was the right decision. are you concerned when you release any detainee from guantanamo? of course. because there is no 100% guarantee of anything. and i think i ve got a pretty clear record on this. in fact not everyone at the white house agreed with how i handled some of this. i have maded it clear that i will not certify, sign anything to release a detainee as long as i m secretary of defense unless i am convinced it s in the best interest of the country and the substantial mitigation of risk can be verified as closely as we can verify. you just brought up you said it not everyone at white house agrees with you. tell us what you mean. well i think the press has been pretty clear on that. let s hear it in your own words. what i have said is what i just said. not everyone at the white house has agreed with me. on what part of this? probably on the pace of releases. because you have been cautious? because i have the responsibility and i play my own game here. and that is because by law i am the one the one official in government charged with certification of release of detainees. i take that responsibility very seriously. have you had pressure? we have had a lot of conversations. with the white house? yes. and congress. and the press. you don t seem too fussed by the notion that maybe there has been pressure from the white house. barbara, i have been in this town a long time. there is pressure all the time in every job that come from a lot of different directions. if you are not prepared to deal with pressure every day in the job you are in coming from a lot of different directions then you shouldn t be in the job. look i have to tell you, we have covered secretary hagel since the day he took office. he has never publically been this candid about that pressure from the white house. what is the pressure? we know that he is confirming that the white house wanted him to move faster on approving the release of detainees from guantanamo bay and white house wanted him to approve more of them. chuck hagel says i m responsible for national security on this. i m not going to sign any of the transfers unless i m convinced it s right thing to do. on the bergdahl one he is convinced. he thinks the problem with the one detainee can be handled. truly, an extraordinary admission from the secretary in his last few days in office that yes, he was pressured by the white house. he certainly very very blunt by the outgoing defense secretary. barbara, we will revise all of the suggestions at the time of his announcement of his resignation that he wasn t very happy with what was going on the pressure he was getting from the white house, right? i think that this now is a big hint perhaps even just straight up an acknowledgement by chuck hagel in his final days that he will say what he thinks. he has been under pressure since all of it was he fired, was he pushed out, did he resign? it s clear there were differences with the white house. he was a real gentleman about it trying not to say too much. but we know in the last few days in office we now know his view is he can be more candid can he say what he thinks he can offer his views, his opinions and really nobody can do anything to him now. he is leaving. he certainly is. stand by barbara. we want to run more of this interview you had. he is very blunt. the outgoing defense secretary. let s bring in congressman ed royce. i think he was very straightforward about the pressure. considering the pressure that he is under, if we look at some of the individuals released these were individuals who were participating they participated in the worst atrocities that occurred. the five frees in exchange for sergeant beau bergdahl? that s correct. they were involved in atrocity. so the question now that the story has surfaced that one of them is already in contact gentrying to rejoin the fight brings up the whole question of the history of those who have been released from guantanamo 30% have been involved in some way in getting back into action. and, of course americans are targeted. british have been targeted by these former taliban leaders. this is on the conscience and on the shoulders of our secretary of defense. stand by mr. chairman. we have more to discuss. more of this exclusive interview coming up. we will take a quick break. more of the breaking news right after this. 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wolf a couple of minutes ago we were talking about his candor as he is in his last few days in office. also that candor extended to the current coalition campaign to fight isis in iraq and syria. one of the big issues on the table is would there be a recommendation to president obama that a small number of u.s. ground forces might have to go into iraq not the advisers and trainers that we have now, but actual ground forces to go help the iraqi forces as they make their advances. these people would help collect intelligence intelligence, point out targets, go right to the front lines. the secretary was unusually candid let me say. he had a few caveats, but he also had a bottom line. he said to his commander general dempsey and general austin if you think you need to recommend to me to the president that we should look at other options, then i want you to bring those recommendations to me. that so far, has not happened. whether that would happen in the future again, the president has said to his commanders if you think this is what s going to be required i need to know it. you need to make the recommendation. i will listen. what do you think? well i think just as the president has said and it is the advice have i given the president, what general dempsey has, we have to look at all the options. i think it may require a forward deployment of some of our troops not doing fighting not doing the combat work that we did at one time for six years in iraq and we did for many many years in afghanistan. but to help air strike locate targets, intelligence? those are things we continue to support. i would say that we re not there yet. whether we get there or not, i don t know. whether that s something that our millitary commanders would recommend into the future, i don t know. as the president has made clear, i need to know your honest opinion. he has been very forthright about that. what you think, if that s something that you think you are saying you are saying you think it could be necessary. it could be. i m not willing to say that it will be necessary. i say it could be necessary. he is saying i think it may require forward deployed u.s. troops. he is caveating that. what we are seeing for the first time is an insight into his advice to president obama. now we know defense secretary hagel, general dempsey, general austin all have talked about this that this could be on the table for president obama to decide. wolf? excellent work barbara. i m glad you followed up and you pressed him for answers. that s what you are supposed to do and did you it well. thanks very much. let s get back to the chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, ed royce. forward troops. that sounds like it could be combat troops even though they might be advisors, if the iraqi military and the kurds, are they going to go mosul to retake the huge city of nearly 2 million people and u.s. troops will be forward troops that s a dangerous operation whether you call them ground troops or combat troops whatever you call them they potentially are in harm s way. on our committee, we will hear from john allen next week. he is retired now. he was in charge of the awakening of working with those sunni tribes at that time. his current job is working with the state department in the state department on that same project. so he will lay out to us the way in which some of our special ops and military officers were able to work with the tribes in order at the time to get them to push back on al qaeda. some of the concepts from his perspective about what could be done to take down isis. what s your reaction to what we heard from chuck hagel? that s the dialogue. that s what we will hear from john allen. how can some of our special ops work with these sunni tribal leaders who are expected now to push or play a big role in pushing isis out of their territory in syria, in iraq? do you have any confidence in the iraqi army? we don t have a lot of confidence in the iraqi leadership. one of the reasons is because they continue to allow shia militia to come in here and be engaged in all of this. every time it happens, of course it is more disrupting. we have watched the kurds forces. iranian forces. we have watched them from lebanon into syria into yemen into iraq all through the region. this is very very concerning. wherever they go you can notice how they destabilize the local situation. they just did it in yechlmen. you heard reports of a massacre a shiite militia. this is the report we got. iraqi forces watched as shiite militia executed 72 sunnis including young little boys and the iraqi military stood by and let this happen. the reports to read them of course they are reports. we have to follow up. but to read that iraqi soldiers stood there crying but not stepping in to stop the militia show the arm that the iranians have now into the country. and the fact that the leadership in baghdad won t stand up and stand down the militia that are influenced by iran and the fact that iran continues to push the types of tactics is very concerning. you blame iran that this you directly blame iran for this? we worked to push maliki to stop the the former prime minister. we re working to push the current prime minister explaining to him, if you are going to be able to bring order here you have got to get the iranians out, you have to get these shia militia to stand down, let the military do its job. to allow the sectarian militias which are often led by iranian forces come in and do the types of butchering they have done this has been a disaster all through the region. if these reports of this massacre are confirmed, it will poison the relationship between iraqi sunnis and shia. who knows what will happen down the road. it s tragic. mr. chairman thanks for joining us. thank you. ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. the report that the error i haves the terrorist who was in the kosher attack e-mailed the attack. mitt romney is out of the race for the white house. 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the policy is to bring i don t think it was vetted who the five guys were. i get it about him. but i think the five guys turn out to be problematic. a number of i do know this. a number of key people in the administration were not consulted before the trade was made. that s a serious situation. what do you think about all of this especially the blunt talk that we heard barbara starr did an excellent job getting him to answer questions. he seemed a little frustrated. it may have been one of the reasons why he s no longer the secretary of defense. this is washington, d.c. on sensitive policy issues for the white house to press the department of defense is not a big surprise. i say, people are speculating on whether you could have gotten a better deal. we re playing in the taliban casino. we have five of their guys. they are going to kill a u.s. soldier. you can say we want a better deal. the taliban will say no. it s bring them home for a bad deal or let him die in after dan stan. there s no easy way out. what do you think, paul? you have studied this closely. yeah. these were five pretty senior guys in the taliban. some of them had minuteisterial experience. some may try to rejoin. they were not operationally active in terrorist plots. these were leaders of the taliban that were released. people who were getting on in age as well. it looks like there s a stall right now in the potential swap of the female terrorist, that would be suicide bomber held by the jordanian government. what s your analysis? i think there s no adequate proof of life. i think that s of the pilot? of the pilot. i think jordan wants to get him back. he apparently is he or his family are critical people in jordan plus they want their pilot back. same conversation we just had. giving her up is something that i find surprising. i remember being in congress during that hotel bombing and how outraged the jordanians were. it was a tipping point in terms aqap in terms of ugliness. i m surprised they would think about this. why hasn t there been proof of life? that s what the jordanian government they are very close to the united states. they want evidence that fighter pilot is alive. i think there s a growing question here. that s whether isis was serious to start with. we started with a $200 million demand. nobody would ever take that seriously. the one on one looked reasonable. i wonder whether they are trying to sugarcoat what is the decapitation of another prisoner. paul you are reporting it. you have good information. this videotape apparently that amedy coulibaly, the terrorist who went into the supermarket killed the four jewish men, that he was recording it. he had a camera on his body one of the go pro cameras. it was sent out at the time to some accomplice. it s about to go public on some terrorist website. tell us what s going on. that s right. it s a seven-minute video. investigators have watched this thing. you see three of the hostages being killed when amedy coulibaly storms the jewish supermarket in paris earlier this month. through technical assessments, they have established they managed to e-mail this out to some associate. this information was provided to cnn by a national security reporter who has been doing joint reporting with cnn. it is astounding that he filmed this with a go pro camera attach attached to his torso. there has been precedent for this. in 2012 there were a series of attacks in southern france including against of a jewish school by somebody who trained with al qaeda in pakistan. he filmed the attacks and sent it. and it took a phone call from the emir of qatar to prevent that getting out in 2012. worry is that a pro-isis website now has this and they will put it out on the twitter feed. they assume this will generate good propaganda for isis. that s why they want to do it. we will have more on this coming up as well. thank you. roughly 9 people in iraq and syria have been forced from their homes by isis militants and the conflicts in the region. you can help. for ways to donate go to cnn.com/impact. roughly nine million people have been forced out of their homes. breaking news continues here in the situation room. we re following all the major terror developments including new information about that pair irmarket that paris market attack. mitt romney won t make a third presidential bid. who benefits the most from romney s decision? 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i felt it could have gone either way. ultimate ultimately it was a very personal thing. he knew the factors. he knows what it takes to run for president. at the end of the day, it was going to be a decision of whether or not he felt like he could emerge from a position of strength and whether that was a journey he wanted to go on. neither decision would have surprised me. i think there were there was disappointment from folks on the inside but maybe a sense of relief he was saving himself from turmoil that goes on. i spoke with kevin madden. he was surprised. i was surprised. he was giving all the indications in what he was saying and the body language going after hillary, that he was a serious candidate. there s a difference between sending messages though and actually doing the work behind the scenes. i don t know if you agree with this. but over the last month, i think it became clear this surfaced in this romney conference call last meeting in boston. his advisers gave him a clear assessment of the landscape. staff that were with him last time were going to other potential candidates. donors were going to other candidates. in particular jeb bush. which again goes to all that we re talking about, that his staff was going to be with him if he wanted to run because they are loyal. mostly very loyal. but they were very realistic. my understanding is that just as you said they got he got candid assessments. but that what the staff who were doing the data collecting as they called it out in the field, not just polling but talking to key supporters in all the battleground states the key money people was that it was doable. somebody said look could jeb have raised more money? of course. but jeb has not gone through this the process not just once but twice as mitt romney has. there s a lot to be said for that. there really is. the flip side and i think this was i don t know that they had to say it. if it was the elephant in the room. people know mitt romney for better or worse, he is the 47% guy. he is the guy with the cars in the garage. he is the guy that talks about being severely conservative. those are all for bet heter or worse, when you are a politician he did leave the door slightly open. he said i have been i will be asked again. if there are any circumstances whatsoever that might develop that could change my mind. it seepms unlikely. unlikely is not no. i don t think he is playing a game here. i think he has no intention to run. he is sending very clear signals. could there be a 1% scenario? sure. the white knight. you heard it here first. he has no intention of doing this. his team was almost 100% loyal. all of the senior level folks said they would be with him. there s no candidate that wouldn t trade the strength and assets that he has going in. there were senior level people who they would be with him if he wanted to do about t but they were very clear eyed about what this would take and how he might very quickly, peter, the big winner on the republican side from this is? 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i don t agree with you in a lot of the aassumptions you make. their integrity is impeccable. these are professionals. they bring outside expertise and outside perspective. they re conclusions are drawn only by the evidence and the attempt to try and identify that truth. i think we have done an excellent job of bringing outside consultants in. somebody has to pay them. unless you re volunteering which i don t think you are, we will do that. we have a responsibility to protect the integrity of the league whether we have an owner that s being investigated or we have a commissioner that s being investigated. they re done at the highest level of integrity and quality. he said the league has done a lot of soul searching and taking actions to try to address a lot of these problems. let s bring back gloria and dana. i want to get your reaction to that exchange between rachel and the commissioner. i think he was unduly kind of snide to rachel. she was asking a very legitimate hard hitting question. it country about the integrity of the investigators. it s about the integrity of the league which is what s been at issue here. she asked a tough question and he tried a little joke which didn t work. it backfired and he seemed snide when he should have answered the question directly. first of all, i want to be rachel nichols when i grow up. she was great. she was great. she was tough and she was exactly right. there are have legitimate questions. of course, as you were saying the people leading those investigations are stallworths. former fbi directors. no one is questioning their integrity. there are ways to pay them or there are ways to compensate them so it s not comeing from the nfl or the owner of one of the teams. i m thinking about here in washington. we stand up and we ask tough questions. we sometimes get a smack down. they go after, but i will say that most of the time when a principal is attacking me for me question, it says something about hitting a nerve. she hit a nerve. you go girl. she hit a nerve because he remembered that she actually asked the same question before. i would argue then be prepared for it this time. this is his issue. this is not rachel s issue. she was doing her job as a serious journalist and he couldn t answer her question. we re used to asking public officials who are responsible for answering questions like this. in sports there s a little bit less of that. in hollywood a lot less of that. there s a whole different situation. she was not going to just kind of roll over. i think that s important for all of us to remember. she is wasn t raising questions about ted wells integrity. she was saying these guys are being brought in to adjudicate what happened but they are being paid by the nfl and ted wells case about indirectly, the new england patriots who pay the nfl. it s the equivalent of a special prosecutor. it should be the same. that s why we picked rachel so ask the tough questions. that s what he needs. thanks to rachel for doing her job. thanks to both you have for doing yours. you have a big job this sunday morning. dana will be hosting cnn state of the union. it airs 9:00 a.m. eastern and noon eastern. this sunday. anchored this sunday by dana. she s got some good guests including john mccain and who else. mike huckabee. good show. look forward to it. thanks very very much. have a great weekend. remember you can always follow me on twitter. tweet me tweet the show. we ll see you monday. i m wolf blitzrer. erin burnett starts now. a major development from the pentagon. check hagel telling cnn that he was pressured by the white house to release gitmo prisoners. the measles outbreak in america grows. the same virus that killed nearly 150,000 people around the world in 2013 now spreading. is the anti-vaccination move to blame? 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