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being here today. >> can i add one more thing? do you care if i add one more? >> do it, please. >> it's not too late. it's not too late for the department of justice to look at this and realize, guys, we made a mistake. it's not too late to -- i think that that would restore the faith in our justice system that it's working, that we actually care about charging the crimes, that we actually are holding everyone accountable the same across the board. >> well, i think that deserves a response. thank you for offering it. >> thank you so much. hit me up on social media. i'll read some responses throughout the course of the program. katherine, what has come in? why are you so obsessed with hunter biden? why not bring up the billions jared got -- if jared had been in federal court this past week and -- put that camera back to me because i want to speak
directly to this person. if jared had been in court this past week in wilmington, delaware, with what was anticipated to be a routine acceptance of a plea agreement that had fallen apart in the context of all of these other events, then today i would be sitting here and talking about jared. i'm obsessed with hunter. i feel sorry for hunter. i really do. i think i get the whole dynamic here as i've just laid it out. but i'm not going to ignore it. still to come, at this week's house oversight hearing on ufos, military pilots testified about their own firsthand encounters and an intelligence official accused the government of coverups. will we ever get the full story? check out this week's poll question at smerconish.com and answer. do you believe the u.s. government is in possession of alien spacecraft? and last night's 13 gop candidates converged in iowa for a fundraising dinner, including front-runner donald trump, fresh off new charges in the mar-a-lago indictment. trump said friday he would not end his white house run even if
includes — the region for a long while. that includes in — the region for a long while. that includes in trade terms. trade has been _ includes in trade terms. trade has been declining and the region has been _ been declining and the region has been looking more towards russia and china over— been looking more towards russia and china over the last few years. some of that— china over the last few years. some of that has— china over the last few years. some of that has been because of the strategic— of that has been because of the strategic incoherence in the region as a whole — strategic incoherence in the region as a whole from the west. that is notjust— as a whole from the west. that is notjust since russia invaded ukraine, _ notjust since russia invaded ukraine, that has been for a long time _ ukraine, that has been for a long time that — ukraine, that has been for a long time. that is a concern. addressing that strategic incoherence and putting — that strategic incoherence and putting something robust in place. jared _ putting something robust in place. jared kushner tried a lot of this, he was in charge of the peace deal, maybe donald trump got burnt like other presidents. jared maybe donald trump got burnt like other presidents.— maybe donald trump got burnt like other presidents. jared kushner got a lot of low hanging _ other presidents. jared kushner got a lot of low hanging fruit, _ other presidents. jared kushner got a lot of low hanging fruit, the - a lot of low hanging fruit, the relationship _ a lot of low hanging fruit, the relationship with— a lot of low hanging fruit, the relationship with saudi - a lot of low hanging fruit, thej relationship with saudi arabia a lot of low hanging fruit, the - relationship with saudi arabia and the relationship _ relationship with saudi arabia and the relationship that _ relationship with saudi arabia and the relationship that president - the relationship that president trump — the relationship that president trump has, _ the relationship that president trump has, that— the relationship that president trump has, that relation- the relationship that president trump has, that relation is-
attorneys get attorneys. plain and simple. >> michael, giuliani's a little long in the teeth. he's definitely not a spring chicken. you said previously you think he would turn on trump, he would, quote, rat him out, to be precise. do you think there's some level of cooperation that's going on by and between rudy giuliani and special counsel jack smith? >> oh, i think there's a lot of cooperation going on between a lot of people. you know, katie, i've actually said it on your show -- i believe ivanka and jared are cooperating. i believe mark meadows is cooperating. i believe rudy colludei is cooperating. i believe all of them are cooperating. the thing about history is that it tends to repeat itself, and all you have to do is look at me, look at what happened to me to understand that donald cares for no one or anyone or anything for that matter other than himself. and if they have any opportunity
think because of the potential for possible harm that someone like walt nauta, who we all know should be cooperating with the doj in the federal government at this point. do you think that the only reason that he hasn't cooperated yet? kind of a footnote to that question as well to you michael. do you actually think that there are people that are cooperating about whom we just do not know? >> absolutely. i have been very vocal. it's my opinion. i don't have any proof to it. but i always believed that jared and ivanka have been cooperating with the federal government. there is no way in the world that jarred was able to take down two plus billion dollars from the saudis post leaving his position as senior adviser to the president. remembering of course it's a son in law and the balder to the former president. i'm top that a couple hundred million here in there from other gulf coast countries, at the end of the day there is no investigation into a guy who is known in the white house as the
there's nothing that new that's happened, but the network makes them do it. >> new so they're like, okay, the sandwich. >> he didn't say anythino theyg must me like keith he's brave for going get ag to sandwich. do you think like trump's going to be there? and do what? it doesn't make any senssach.e they know it doesn't make any sense, but they're on. >> on a good chance trump would be there. n autowell, you know, joe, you e the sandwich expert and people have noticed you at home. you do look like jared from self. ye loos, i do. oh, okay. i did story just for you beforei you left. you heard he's been reading that on twitter fotr ten years. you didn't write that, joe. fo used twitter for a decade. it's cause it's true.r i know the.
said, look, i think he's becoming a more realistic and knows there is a limit to how far he can take this. jared said, yeah, we are working on this, we are working on it. >> the january six committee also detailed how trump launched a massive pressure campaign to try to get all corners of the government to do his bidding. including his own vice president. >> he tried to pressure state legislators to reverse the results of the election in their states. but they refused. he tried to enlist the department of justice in his efforts to overturn election results. but officials leading the department refused to comply. so eventually, he latched onto a completely nonsensical and anti-democratic theory that one man, his own vice president, could determine the outcome of the election. he wanted the vice president to
>> i spent my whole life being ashamed. it worked. >> me too. >> why do you think someone like kamala wants to remove the shame factor from the equation with drugs? >> listen, i grew up with kamala. she was the da in oakland when i grew up there. she was tough on crime back then. the she got me at 16 for possession of marijuana. she's turn changed her tune. i lost the ability to get my driver's license until i was 18. >> she took away your driver's license for two years. >> yeah. >> kamala harris when she was out in california, and now they're finding bags of coke in the white house, and everyone is saying, oh, my goodness, who cares. >> people evolve, i guess, or devolve, you know. she's certainly changed a lot. >> all right. jared, thank you so much. again, we have a lot of respect for you, what you've gone through, where you are now. we appreciate that. >> thank you so much, jesse.
to remain in power against their will. he knew he had lost the 2020 election, but he spread the lies of the fraud anyway. his own attorney general at the time, bill barr, said this to the committee. >> the president said something like, well, we could get to the bottom, some people said we could get to the bottom of this if the department sees the machines. that was a typical way of raising a point. i said, absolutely not. there is no problem with cause. we will not sees any machines. i said, how long is he going to carry on with this stolen election stuff? where is this going to go? by that time, meadows had caught up with me. leaving the office and caught up with me and side that, he said, look, i think he's becoming a more realistic and knows there is a limit to how far he can take this. jared said, yeah, we are working on this, we are working on it. >> the january six committee also detailed how trump launched a massive pressure campaign to try to get all corners of the government to do his bidding. including his own vice president. >> he tried to pressure state legislators to reverse the results of the election in their states. but they refused. he tried to enlist the