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The Chris Wallace Show

they're very family oriented. so i'm with kristen. >> they're also not knew. i saw "beatlemania." i'm pretty old. i loved it. i love these things. >> just not stanley cup -- >> i'm going to bring the stanley cup. >> finally, the nfl playoffs kick off this week. in perhaps the biggest game, the chiefs versus the dolphins, is only available streaming on peacock, not on network tv. the nfl certainly scored a touchdown getting $110 million in comcast which owns peacock for exclusive rights to stream the game. but this will be the first time ever a playoff game is not available on broadcast or cable tv. so kristen, are you as outraged as i am about this, and at the nfl's greed? >> i'm probably only not outraged because i think i already subscribe to peacock, so it's no extra money out of my pocket. i'm use today to paying extra because i pay for the nfl red zone channel. i'm a huge football fan. i can understand how if you are a football fan you're now like, wait a minute, i got to

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The Chris Wallace Show

and again. let's not forget these funding fights keep on popping up. so if it's not this one that will do him in, it might be another one. >> well, let's talk about that. congress only has until midnight friday to pass something to keep the government running. speaker johnson has wavered about the idea of a continuing resolution or a cr to kick the can down the road a few weeks or a month. here he is in november, and then this week. >> i hate crs as much as everyone does. we're not going to do this again. we're not doing this under my leadership. i'm not ruling out anything, committing to anything. >> kristen, does a shutdown make any sense for the republicans? did they gain anything by, you know, saying we believe in certain things and we're going to shut down the government until we get it? >> i do not think it has any benefit to republicans at all because the reality is that the issues on which they say they want to shut down the government around the border, oh, we're

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The Chris Wallace Show

tension here, i'm not so sure. >> then there is desantis who is all in on iowa. he has campaigned in all 99 counties. he has a big, strong gain there. kristen, what happens if desantis doesn't do well, if he -- if he loses by double digits and, god forbid from his point of view, if he actually finishes behind nikki haley. is he done? >> he does not have much of a path past iowa. he polls in very low numbers in new hampshire. he's kind of nowhere in south carolina where it's all about trump and all about haley. and the withdrawal from the race of chris christie has made it even better for haley which makes it even worse for desantis. he's right now got to be looking i think at 2028. he's very young. right now he's still very well liked by a lot of republicans. the problem he faces is those same republicans just like donald trump a little more. >> you seem to be saying he's --

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CNN Newsroom With Fredricka Whitfield

course, this is adding to all of that. the big question is, how can he -- or if he can actually turn people out. particularly, because he has had to cancel three of thundershower f -- four events she was meant to hold. seeing how this was playing out, it seems to be a unique situation we're experiencing this weekend in iowa. >> unique indeed. thank you so much, kristen. let's go to you, jessica dean. you're following governor ron desantis' campaign. he's already held his first event of the day. what'd he say? >> reporter: well, fredricka, perhaps nobody has more on the line here in iowa than governor desantis. he's staked so much on this stake, and their whole game plan is to allow iowa to launch him into this primary. they are looking to monday for a very strong second place. obviously, they want to win, but if they don't win, they want to come in very close to donald trump to really make the case that december nesantis is the ae

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Erin Burnett OutFront

evangelicals. but they're also key for governor desantis. he has been working them and really pushing that pro-life message in his view. i expect he'll do so again tonight on stage. but the evangelical vote is hardly monolith. the voters we talked to throughout the year, some support haley, some support desantis, but a lot do still support trump. and it all goes back to the supreme court. it really person after person really hold him responsible and thank him for the three justices that helped overturn roe v. wade. but there are also many independent thinkers out there. some are eager to move on that. will be a key question on monday night, how strong that evangelical vote is for donald trump. and it could determine how strong ron desantis is also on monday in iowa. >> jeff zeleny, thanks very much. erin, back to you. >> all right, it's just fascinating to hear that whole conversation. everyone back with me. kristen, you know these voters. you heard the pastor tell jeff zeleny, the evangelical voters are the pathway to victory in iowa, that god is with you even

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Erin Burnett OutFront

they have pulled back all ads spending on attacking ron desantis. they are expressing confidence. i was told by one senior adviser sure, it will impact some undecided voters. but it's not enough to change the trajectory of the race. we also got a memo put out. they said it was confidential memo, written by their pollster to the campaign heads, put out by the campaign that said this isn't going impact trump winning in the state. but, again, as we know, they have been concerned about nikki haley. they are watching those numbers carefully. they are looking at the tabs in every single poll. as we have reported, erin, the team that is around him right now is one of the most disciplined to date, which means they are analyzing data looking through this, and there is a reason they are spending so much money going after nikki haley. so it's certainly not all a celebration tonight. anderson? >> kristen, thanks very much. with me is david axelrod and scott jennings. david, if the former president is publicly crowing about the

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Anderson Cooper 360

continually outperformed donald trump in new hampshire. it's a purple state. it is a state with a heavy independent. and by the way, it's an open primary. independents can turn out. democrats can vote. so i do think that there is a lane here. it's to turn out people who are not the ones who came out for trump, but who are active. >> he is the man for the ages. >> crushing it. there is glide paths. sununu comes out and you want to air walk. >> to kristen's point, chaos is trump's brand. he is not rung from it. he is embracing it. and chris sununu is playing expectation management. downplaying. we're not looking to win in iowa. we don't really care. so expectation management very important, because if she has a poor showing, she is toast. you heard chris christie say that. she's putting all her eggs in one basket. clearly new hampshire is a big win, big strong second finish. it's not a win to go to south carolina. >> and a final point. you got just two people on stage tonight. two people in all the time. it's a lot of pressure, and the first time they've been in that situation. >> well, they're both governors. so they've definitely had the

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Erin Burnett OutFront

they believe it's a top issue in the granite state. trump has complained both privately and publicly about haley who served as ambassador to the united nations under his administration. calling her disloyal. >> nicky would sell you out just like she sold me out. >> reporter: haley for her part has also sharpened her attacks on the former president. >> chaos follows him, and we all know that's true. chaos follows him, and we can't have a country in disarray and a world on fire and go through four more years of chaos. we won't survive. and you don't defeat republican chaos with democratic chaos. >> internal polling had haley rising in iowa as well. a senior trump campaign advisor insisting to me today that their strategy has not changed. they say that donald trump has always said he would set his sights on whoever is in second place. and now that appears to be nikki haley. erin? >> thank you very much, kristen.

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Meet the Press

integrity and the security of our elections which if we do not have that, we do not have the democracy. so the real threat to our democracy is these baseless, witch hunt investigations and lawsuits against president trump, whether it's tish james or the d.c. circuit court and its undemocratic and shredding our constitution. and do you know who agrees with me, kristen? the american people. and that's why he is winning in poll after poll. >> the justice department has indicted democrats including the president's son twice. a lot of critics, undercuts the argument -- >> i want to answer that -- if you want to make that case the american people are very smart. they know that they tried to give hunter biden a sweetheart deal. we heard from -- >> he's been indicted twice, congresswoman. >> it was because of a judge that threw out a sweetheart deal that was negotiated on joe

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Meet the Press

jews violate harvard's rules of bullying or harassment, yes or no? >> it can be depending on the context. >> of course, she was criticized for that response and has come under scrutiny for allegations of plagiarism and has resigned amid that. what was your reaction when you heard she was resigning? >> it was long overdue. she should have resigned immediately following the hearing, and, of course, this follows the resignation of liz magill, the penn president. so did the mit president, i might add. i called for all three of their resignations. it's not just me who called for the resignations. we passed a vote bipartisan who called for the resignation on the floor of congress, but i want to take you a little bit into that hearing, kristen, and that was the last question of the hearing. and i tried to structure the question in a way that was a moral question and not political, and it was a moral question, and i was expecting them to answer yes, and i was astonished in real-time that they said it depends on the context.

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