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down any potential violent response. >> our next guest, wendy thomas, side of the speed with which steve mulroy issued indictments, as proof that elections matter. she wrote, anyone who knows memphis can't think the charges would've come so quickly if mulroy's republican predecessor was still in office. joining us now is when you see thomas, she's the editor and publishers mlk, 50 just through, journalism nonprofit newsroom that focuses on power, policy, and public policy in memphis. also with us london lamar, she represents the states 33rd district, which includes parts of memphis, and mark, last in former nyc police detective, and public relations director of the black law enforcement alliance. this idea that these first five officers were charged too quickly, a lot of people saw
weathers to abusive, and whether there can be some resources better department to, health health care, again investing in neighborhoods and communities the answer to everything cannot be more policing. -- when is he tosses a tennessee -- wendy's thomas is editor and chief, and allocate to, 50 editor publisher that, on a lamar, mark claxton is a retired nypd detective, and the public relations director of the black law enforcement alliance. coming up, some prominent republicans are still engaging in election denialism, and election workers are still facing threats to their safety, it was on his new secretary of state, adrienne fontes joins us next. next explore new worlds, and to start screening for colon cancer. yep. with colon cancer rising in adults under 50,
and some people meant really defund the police, and that hand mark and i were talking the other day to a former captain, a black woman who is a captain of the police in maryland, and she says police culture eats police training and policy for breakfast, those are the words she used. all the training in the world comes very hard to overcome policed culture whether you are black or white. >> i think that's fair, i think that whether you put like officers or white officers and its system, get the same kind of outcome and some kind of results. i think, some of what senator lamar says is absolutely right, memphis, like most major cities in the country have struggled with increases in homicide rate, although the homicide rate was down to 2022, when compared to 2020 and 2021. i think that in our rush, perhaps, to address, crime we have failed to as the right kind of questions about what kind of policing we're getting. whether it's too harsh,
seriously. to see exactly what we are gonna try to do, policy wise, to maybe change some of that. >> the new york times looked into the history of policing in the city of memphis, specifically looking at the reasons the city have been able to stay out of the national spotlight, up until now. they found several reasons, including less reliance on stop and frisk tourette -- or traffic stops. the city has a long history of black belief cheese. because the city has a high homicide rate, the police have usually had strong support from the public. what changed? where does memphis, and frankly, the united states, go from here? i am honored to welcome to the show this morning a leading voice in this conversation, tennessee state senator london lamar, a state senator and caucus leader. thank you for joining us this morning we need a couch lure of accountability and police accountability that starts with
their states, they can hold officers accountable more swiftly, as well. it's also contributing to why protesting has been peaceful. our system is working. this is an opportunity for us to keep pressure on the police, on our elected officials, so the thing that we are watching from the crowd. and also what more can we do? we can challenge other states in other cities who are watching us to get on the trend with us and do better. hold your officers accountable. make sure that what happened tyre nichols happens to no one ever again. >> tennessee state senator lamar, all you are looking forward to the work you are able to get done. i thank you for joining us this morning. >> coming up, trump is back on the trail for the first time since his 2024 comeback announcement. can he revive his campaign after a slow start? plus, vp bid for marjorie taylor greene? whether that frightening
them mr. tyre nichols in the first place and when he was arrested in the first place and when he asked what he was being pulled over for, they should've explicitly told him what the issues were, and when they realized he was not someone they were after, they should have took a different route. they should not have had to use as much force as they did. and now the whole unit is under investigation at this point. so, it is flawed. and we need to re-evaluate how we are using organized crime units in order to attack the violent crime issues we have in memphis, tennessee. vi>> all right, tennessee state senator london lamar, from memphis, tennessee. thank you so much for your time. i'm joined now by paul butler, who served as a federal prosecutor -- specialty was public corruption. he's a law professor who specializes in writing about law enforcement, policing. he wrote a book called chokehold about policing. let me ask you this, since we have been talking about the video in the specifics here. someone whose life's work is on this tough pick topic, more or
some degree, you know, there was pretty good quarterback play in this game. but still, across the league yesterday, it's one of the reasons why i rail against a 17-game schedule. >> yeah. >> and why i wrote in my column today, you know, i'm going to rail even more if they try to make an 18-game schedule. >> peter, they were fumbling, so many interceptions. they were exhausted. you could see it. you looked at the cincinnati ravens game, which would have been a highlight of the season, you know, a couple of months ago, without lamar there and all the injuries, that was a miserable game. it was an ugly, ugly, terrible game, and the cowboys, i promise, i'm going to get positive soon, but i'm going to get positive about the detroit lions. >> there was so much screaming over the weekend. >> but first, let's talk about the cowboys. what is wrong with that? they've got the quarterback.