asteroid strike. these are things you have to plan for. that s our box report. thanks for watching. what year do we declare independence? 1884. way out. in honor of this holiday weekend, waters world classic that won t make you proud to be an american. it all begins right now. people need kidneys, it s sad this is a democratic health care bill. are you ready? massive tax relief for middle-class american families. $700 billion in tax cuts. new health care bill gives people choice. so is the republican health bill perfectly mark of course it is a. is it better than obama care? of course it is. now, it s do or die for senate republicans. charles explains the stakes. this is really a test of the republic. if the republican party is concerned in the country is not able to pass this which is essentially about entitlement reform, if you can t do that then we have no hope of entitlements. jesse: so, we ll see if it republicans can pass the test. if they do, republicans should be thanking them for fixing the system that they broke. here is the beltway battle who is involved with implementing obama care political commentator, tommy lawrence. ladies first. what did you think of my assessment of the stakes and where we stand on healthcare? you are right. it s also important to point out as he did that if we change just one word of obama care, the democrats were telling us we were killing people. a front let s be honest about the narrative. beyond that we should repeal obama care, replace it with liberty and have a great fourth of july. jesse: everyone can celebrate freedom on the fourth of july but the democratic party does not like freedom, they don t like choice when it comes to healthcare. they like choice when it comes to everything else on the platform. what is the democratic party dislike giving the american people more choice in selecting healthcare coverage? the affordable care act gave people choice. jesse: note didn t. you are both completely wrong about the senate proposal and senate proposal. any one that takes covers from 22 million people is a not a choice it s a disaster. jesse: but if you re not mandating people through taxation to find of obama care, people are going to do it. they will have the freedom to decide whether or not they want healthcare or not. i want them to have healthcare because i don t want my bill to be significantly high because they choose not have health insurance coverage. jesse: but everyone s healthcare bills are already high after obama care was passed. premiums are skyrocketing. there s not a lot of choice. look at i will, there s only one option for people to choose from. how do you see the healthcare bill going down? it s projected next year, 44 counties will have no choice at all. we are in a death spiral right now. there s no question to that. this narrative of the democrats pushing and were killing people and taken away healthcare, let s not forget the biggest liable which was told by barack obama, if you like insurance, you can keep it. yes, we need to fix something here. repeal now, replace later, let s do something because this is not working. jesse: anton, do the democrats have any substitutes policy input that they think the republican party might go along with? that depends. we have policy input for six years when president obama was president, guess what, the congress had no interest in trying to prove healthcare make it better. so, i don t think they re interested in listening to good ideas. they just want to repeal the affordable care act and give the opportunity to say they want something and take health insurance on 22 millie people. jesse: i don t agree with the last part. but i agree neither party wants their fingerprint fingerprints on a doomed dell. do you remember susan rice? now, she has been slapped with subpoenas and she is going to testify on capitol hill in the unmasking investigation, looking into unmasking of trump officials which is not supposed to be political. those names were leaked and that s a crime. she s playing the race and gender card since she might be being targeted because of her race and gender. do you think that s a fair assessment? it s amazing to me how they seem to be able to pull out the cards. look at the people being investigated. look at what the president has to go through on a daily basis and he s a white male. it has a lot to do with susan rice herself. the moment you parade around with talking points and be on the youtube video it has to do with being a liar. jesse: respond to. susan rice has been embroiled in the benghazi situation, she said it was about a video and she said bergdahl was a deserter and he served with honor and distinction and captured on the battlefield. then she changed her story in public about the unmasking. to susan rice have any credibility when she goes in front of the senators and congressmen on capitol hill? 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always discreet underwear. for bladder leaks. already the left is filing lawsuits. justman up before the ban took effect, hawaii filed an emergency motion asking a federal judge to clarify which people with close familial relationships will be allowed into the country. and who will be banned? joining me is deputy assistant to the president, doctor sebastian gorka. i m not sure how many students are vacationing in honolulu, that s beside the point. in my opinion, coming to america is a movie, not a right. i don t think a lot of the aclu lawyers sitting at the airports understand that. now, tell me if i have this right. if you are 25-year-old syrian male and you fly into jfk, and that s a war-torn country, isis controls large swaths of land and maybe you have a rental car agreement. you cannot come into america like that were as before there is a shot you were getting in, right? right. so the supreme court gave us vindication, 19 makes zero decision, no dissensions, the original travel moratorium stands with a small modification, unless you have close relatives. you cannot be distant relatives, cannot be your front fiancé. less their close relatives you re not coming into the united states until we review the process and are clear that we can verify who your and you are not a threat to america. that makes perfect sense in my opinion. america is a melting pot. but, we still have a chef and that s cannot control what ingredients going to the pot. that s common sense. i believe the supreme court believes that. there s a question whether ruth bader ginsburg should recuse herself because she said some things about trump when he was running and now that he was president which were unseemly. calling him an egomaniac, even joking she might leave the country if he became country president, do you think that s a fair issue? i m not going to qualify individual supreme court judges but i love your analogies about the chef. the one i use is simply, do you lock your front door at night when you go to bed? sure you do. and during the day when people come into your house who decided? do they decide who comes in or do you decide. the president has the constitutional authority and has had to decide who comes to the united states and becoming an america is not a rights, it s a privilege. to other big immigration wins this week, the house gop making good on the promise to make america safe again bypassing case law and defunding sanctuary cities. defending criminal illegal aliens. democrats went nuts, listen. the republican parties have had mexican fever. is it not going well for the leader, let s whip out that mexican thing as the vice president penn said. healthcare not going well? but hates the mexicans today. these bills are nothing new and they are not really about fighting crime. they re about racial profiling and putting latinos in their place. i think that s offensive. little me this. if republican mayors were to disobey federal law on guns, on abortion, on any other hot button topic, marriage, the media would say there s a civil war up for the we have a constitutional crisis. but whenever there s a democratic mayor it somehow righteous. that clip you just played was reverse racial baiting. nothing else. think about why this law was actually brought in front of the congressmen and women. a beautiful woman, 32 years old gunned down in broad daylight by a man who came to this country illegally, deported five times, convicted seven times. how is it a bad idea to stop that from happening again? is common sense legislation so someone commits a crime, felony and they are deported and are caught reentering the country illegally, they get locked up for some time. any democrat against that i d like to see them explain that to kate s family. absolutely. this new bill means that if you are caught coming back after you been deported you can get two years in federal prison. if we convict you and then deport you and you come back illegally, we can like you away for 25 years to protect the feet future kate stanley s. jesse: thank you. happy july 4. jesse: morning joe host calling the president sexist. but how do they treat sarah palin? the great one. mark is here with the report. the fake news media saying donald trump is going to get them killed. a former cnn reporter explains her psychosis, up next. ependabl. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. it s happening, it s happening! in the modern world, you can control just about anything with an app. your son is turning on all the lights again! and with the esurance mobile app, you can do the same thing with your car insurance. like access your id card, file a claim, or manage your policy. it s so easy it s almost scary. let s get outta here! that s auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance. an allstate company. click or call. yogig-speed internet.me? 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[applause] the camera just one off. okay, you can come back. i would say. i won t say anything more about you. i see the red like off. jesse: those comments after a rough week from cnn. the network embarrassed itself not once but twice, first having to retract a fake story which tied former trump aid joe been admitting russia coverage is baseless and for ratings. when will the fake news and? joining me now, journalists and our of the smear. fake news control we see and think and how you will. so, cnn has had a rough spring i m think it s safe to say. that the kathy griffith debacle, the james comey testimony exclusive they had to retract, some people said things about trump that i m not allowed to repeat on air. then people like to say the media is there to hold the powerful accountable, think now the media has become so powerful the media itself is being held accountable and they don t like that. i would say was happen at cnn is a reflection of a larger trend i talk about in the book whereby the news media in some regards has been successfully infiltrated by the interest that tried to drive narratives and smear. we ve invited them into our newsrooms and we ve hired them in this is the result. when you hire political hatchet men and women as producers or as on-air talent, you have to expect everything is going to get burned to the ground and it will not be the same institution as it once was. talk about media priorities here, the mainstream media is obsessed with russia i think 353 minutes dedicated to the russia comey investigation, the paris accord, 47 minutes. the fight against terror only half an hour. but anything regarding president s policy agenda and the substance behind it gets little play. you re not surprised by the fact that the american people are so turned off by the press because they don t think the press is covering the president fairly. it kind of reads like a textbook propaganda or narrative campaign when you look at how the russian narrative emerged and compared to the facts and i spoke to a couple of former obama officials who said they do not think russia even had an impact at all in our election let alone colluded with donald trump. these are obama intel officials. they went on to describe how china has interfered with our elections and they consider that a weaker threat, iran is a much bigger threat and north korea s the biggest foreign threat. yet none is bn reported with the ferocity that you mentioned that we are reporting on russia. jesse: speaking of threats, people are now claiming they are the ones under threat and take a look at this montage. have you raise the concern that all of us in the news media have about the president calling us enemies of the american people because that s a very harsh statement and potentially dangerous. at what point does this become dangerous? i m talking dangerous as in a journalist gets her. i can tell you working overseas in war zones, people are in bold and by the actions of this administration, emboldened by the declaration of war and the media. the reporters and journalists are enemies of the state. someone, god forbid someone is going to do something violent against journalist and a large way. so first of all we would like to correct the record. the president did not say you are an enemy of the state. he said fake news is the enemy of the people. it s interesting because the press likes to say when trump calls the fake news media that will cost someone to shoot them. on the other hand you ve had the press calling republicans racist, bigoted traders for the last year and a half and then someone did come out shoot a republican and said rhetoric had nothing to do with it so which is it? it s that substitution game i like to play have similar things are treated depending on who makes the accusation. i think that s a signal. jesse: i want to get to something in your book and it s a great book. you came across an e-mail from palmeri who was hillary clinton s communications director during the campaign. and jen sakae who is the obama state department spokesperson. it says this, think we can get the interview with kerry by cbs done so he is not asked about e-mail? the e-mail is referring to the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. that seems like collusion to me, doesn t it? if you look at the chapter i read in the book is full of e-mails that say things like that and far worse where the journalists are you kidding behind the scenes and agreeing to let officials call the terms of the campaign. one of clinton s assistance was talking to a reporter in washington who wanted an advance copy of her speech and he said okay, if you meet these three conditions. one was that you must describe her speech is muscular which is a name you not think of as used to describe a speech, not only was it used by that reporter an agreement you can see a black and white, i looked into several other reporters use the same words in describing the speech. not a coincidence that muscular was used in the report? could even think of that word? not one time but three times that they were insisting the term be used, that s eye-opening. i ve always said there s more evidence of democratic party colluding with the media then evidence that donald trump colluded with russia. jesse: still to come, remember when obama said this during his last week in office? 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you physically look like you do, be on the stupidity of it, you re a pig, you are a bully, and you are doing disgusting things to this country. jesse: wow. that was a former cnbc host on morning joe attacking president trump for his early tweets about joe scarborough and mika brezezinksi. some think he went overboard in his comments but msnbc is not want to talk. they spent nearly a decade trashing people like sarah palin and the most disgusting way. people like joe scarborough making fun of the way she speaks in her family. even martin was forced to do resign after comments about the former alaskan governor. where s the outrage? mark, author of rediscovering americanism and host of seer to be networks joins me now. so, before is out there saying that trump is a mentally old narcissist dictator. i don t think it was the fire smartest thing for president trump to go after her physical appearance but the morning joe has been trashing people like sarah palin for ages on firm ground : president a sexist. they have the heartbeat of greenwich village, they claim to represent the people, i don t even watch the show. i see clips of the show, i would say this, if you believe in women s rights, why do you defer to joe, your future house spend all the time which is what she does? she s a second seat. at astro this, why did you feel it radio, i know this because and he left where i am he and she said, were taking a respite to rebuild the radio show and then they wind up on msnbc. that show has less shows than sonogram radios. the only time i watch cnn is when i travel. you are a trained lawyer, there s some audio we won t play but i think the president was at a fundraiser the other day and i think he said maybe i should sue cnn. cnn has been caught and if you embarrassing stink situations and have had to eat crow recently. does he have a case? no. he doesn t have a case. can i go back to the little fellow, donny deutsch area and let me tell you something. you think you re a tough guy on tv and talk about the president of the united states that way? that s a problem with that show. you want to be respected then you need to treat people with respect. you want to be a jerk then you will be treated like a jerk. whether we agree with the president or not, the fact is he s in a proud and accomplish man and has done more than joe scarborough had done in his life. you can challenge him on the issues. you can take him on certain personality traits. but when you start attacking him you get no respect and you don t reserve respect either. so don t have these guys in the same greenroom you could have trouble. i m nervous. jesse: let me tell you about healthcare. i ve said the health care bill coming out is not going to be perfect. we know obama care is far from perfect. what you want to see happen? i think it s a disaster. i think with the senate is doing is a disaster. the american people cannot even tell you what the senate is doing. people are going to a dr., they want to have access to a dr. and it access to procedures they need and surgeries they need. they don t want long waiting times at a reasonable price. how do we get there? do we get there through the centralized government type system? people do you know in america go to canada for healthcare? how many people in america go to britain for dental care? how many people go to france for healthcare? were the only industrials countries that don t have socialist healthcare. good. i like the presence latest idea. if they can t pass something, and i hope they don t, because it s always in the mind to the left, it s all based on obama care. if it s repealed and you get 12 months notice what happens? that is 20 milli- people who need insurance. they say 20 milli- people one have insurance, that s baloney. free enterprise, entrepreneurs and insurance companies will step in and offer different types of policy. they will make money, prices will come down this 20 milli- people will have healthcare. i think the original idea should not have been expanding coverage should have been reducing costs. the cost went up and now everyone wants the cost to go down, it s bogus to say people will lose insurance, of course they will because they will not be taxed into getting insurance. i m in medicaid s welfare program. and it s exploding. here s the thing, they think look at all this coverage, people in medicaid don t like medicaid. we don t even discuss and debate it. i like this idea, repeal the thing, give 12 months to the private sector those 20 milli- people are likely to have good health care. i spacer on the other day and i said what are we gonna do and he said face too. let me talk to you about the russian, obama collusion angle. this is something you been talking about, the washington post came out this piece that obama is struggling with the russian interference. this week, i ve heard very little for some strange reason about the collusion angle. why is that? because of your point, barack obama was president, commander-in-chief and was responsible for protecting us from cyber warfare. it was great hearing these on the senate intelligence committee who used to love the soviet union and now they don t like russia. i ve never like putin by the russian government. that said, when i listen to them go on and on about what an assault this is on america yeah what did you do about it? who s the fbi director? comey, clapper, you have loretta lynch, obama, what did they do? they covered it up because they wanted her to win hillary of they didn t want people to think the election was tainted. i thought this is a dereliction of duty on behalf of the president. it s funny they say the democrats were for russia before they were against. mark, congratulations of the book. enjoyed. still to come, classic was on the american history. you won t want to miss this. it was definitive proof that russia hacked the election. turns out, democrats are reading the new york times. they got it wrong again. real and fake news of the week is up next. i never miss an early morning market. but with my back pain i couldn t sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i m back! aleve pm for a better am. leadership. so the sanders family is under investigation, the trump family, not. now who s feeling the burn? the national endowment for the arts is spending $20000 of taxpayer money on illegal immigrant lesbian musical called walls. this is one wall that mexico is not going to be paying for. surprise, surprise. seattle s first in the nation 15-dollar per hour wage law is hurting the workers it aims to help. the new way boosted pay by 3% and resulted in a 9% reduction in hours which means workers are taken about $125 less each month. reminds me of the saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. as democrats continue to lose house there finding ways to relate to voters. instead of changing leadership this week they decided to appoint congressmen of illinois as a new chairwoman of heartland engagement. proving once again how i don t out of touch the democrats are. president trumps criticism of the nato allies for not investing in the military is paying off. nato secretary-general announced plans to boost defense spending by 4.3% this year. looks like tough love works. here s your fake news story of the week. if you been watching cable news this year, you have seen dozens of democrats that all 17 intelligence agencies agreed the russians hacked the election. this has come from the highest levels of the russian government. clearly from putin himself, in an effort a 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed to influence our election. 17 agencies came to a consensus conclusion that we took the extraordinary step of making public. we have 17 u.s. intelligence agencies have said that russia attempted to influence our election. 17 u.s. intelligence agencies issued a statement expressing their unanimous assessment. jesse: that was fake news. ironic susan rice was in it again. the new york times buried a correction at the bottom of the paper same there was only four agencies, not 17. who s counting? apparently not the new york times. all immigrants want to become citizens have to pass a basic test. could you? watters world quizzes college students when we come back. what year do we declare independence? 1984? way off. rs. be there for america s toughest and help, when help is needed america s #1 isn t a status earned overnight. it s earned in every wash, and re-earned every day. tide, america s #1 detergent (b by crying) minutes old. a baby s skin is never more delicate. what do hospitals use to wash and protect it? johnson s® the number 1 choices in hospitals. two. i m going to say 100. you got it. what month it do we vote for presidents? december? january? april. know that s when you pay your taxes. march? august. august is in the summer. november? you got it. what year do we declare our independence? 1984? way off. 1884. 1776. 1776. july 4. 1776? genius. the name of our national anthem is? is in a called the national anthem? it is the star-spangled banner. very good. lester rendition. oh say can you see by the dawn s early light. was a probably we hailed by the don s by the twilights. i forget the rest. o er the ramparts. what of those called? 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event and they were keeping it separate. with some prodding from the press, they decided to allow a few reporters in and one camera. two hours later, they changed their minds. so there s no press inside this event right now. we have no idea what the president is saying to donors, and we likely won t find out unless one of the donors tells us. how much is the trump hotel getting paid to host this? i know you were asking some questions about that. reporter: that s a great question. we have no idea who is paying for this event tonight that the president is attending. we reached out for comment, and our requests have not been answered. so it could be the rnc. it could be the re-election campaign, and it could be that the hotel donated the space. we don t know. is it normal for a president to hold a fund raiser for rhis re-election five months after taking office? presidents obama and bush didn t unprecedented and remarkable in and of itself. put it all together and once again donald trump is sort of redefining how to be president. the timing is certainly noteworthy, that it is only he hasn t even hit the six-month mark yet and he s doing this. i went back to look at the first fund-raiser that george w. bush did in 2003, 2 1/2 years into his administration. and the first fund-raiser that barack obama did in 2011 just to see what they said. anderson, their quotes were about touting accomplishments that they had done in the first couple of years, starting to set the frame and the narrative for what they were going to campaign on for re-election. when you re not in the jb sob s months, you re far away from how the voters may think about your re-election. we won t know what donald trump says tonight because this is closed to the press, unlike his two predecessors. david, it s a fair bet he is to know the details of this very important health care bill and instead he s putting his energy into spending time with people that love him, his donors and spending time doing these ral yis. t rallies. the rallies are also unusual to be doing in his first term. there have been criticisms of past administrations about campaigns never ending. this is taking it to another level. it is, but it shouldn t surprise any of us. he campaigned last year in ways we never seen before and lots of people thought he s breaking every rule we know about presidential politics and it works for him. so it doesn t surprise me to see him breaking these rules. on inauguration day is when he filed his re-election committee with the s.e.c. he s been doing online small dollar fund-raising, and he s done a bunch of campaign rallies, that his campaign has which is a fund-raiser for his re-election, but if they have to rent out the hall of the president s hotel, the president and his family benefits from that financially. again, we haven t had answers about the economicing of this. right. we ve gotten little details about this. and now we ll get fewer details. although presumably they ll have to release how much the campaign paid out for this event and they have to make sure they didn t pay too much or too little, because either could get them into trouble, because this is something that the president has a financial interest in. so if they paid too little, it could look like they were getting some sort of contribution. if they paid too much, it could look like they were trying to use money to help enrich a trump property, which enriches the family. then at a minimum, of course, even if everything is on the up and up, it s still inappropriate, because the president is using his role as president of the united states to gain attention for a property that he enriches himself from. thanks. we have a lot more to talk about tonight, including the threat that dare not speak its name. what we re learning from inside the white house why there s so much resistance to addressing the russian hacking. the reporting on that ahead. and later, what did the president mean when he promised a big surprise on health care and how does it fit a pattern of promise making dating back for years before becoming president? 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reporter: anderson, speaking to multiple senior administration officials, they say they re struggling to convince president trump that russia still poses a threat to american elections. one official said there s no evidence to show that trump is engaging on the you are shoe. the president still gets a daily briefing, and that includes updates on russia. beyond that, an official said there s no paper trail, no schedules, no readouts or briefing documents, nothing to indicate the president is convening meetings on this subject the way he has with other threats, for instance, threats against the u.s. power grid. sources tell dana bash and jim sciutto that mike rogers expressed his from yustration t lawmakers to convince president trump that russia meddled in the election. so top officials have called this a major threat. why is the president reluctant to address it? reporter: people say that president trump is having difficulty separating the investigation into russia collusion and russia meddling into the election itself. so trump sees everything regarding russia as being organized as a challenge to him. basically a move to undermine his presidency. has the white house responded to this at all? reporter: shean spicer insisted that the white house is taking action, just quietly. in a statement to cnn, spicer says the united states continues to combat on a regular basis malicious cyber activity without bragging to the media. spicer pointed to the fact that the trump administration upheld the obama administration sanctions against russia. but sources say the white house is already trying to water down an additional package of sanctions that passed the senate and awaiting action in the house. sarah murray, thanks. former bush state department official nicholas burns accused the president of dereliction of duty to defend the country for his disinterest in russian meddling and criticized the obama administration. he joins me now with jim sciutto. jim, president obama did sign an order on cyber security. any evidence that he s focused directly on the threat from russia itself? reporter: no, little evidence that he s focused on the threat. we re hearing that from people inside his own administration. i ve spoken to democrats and republicans on the hill who don t see the level of urgency either. this is not just looking backwards but looking forward, anderson. because everybody says, not just russia, but china, iran, north korea, very actively targeting the u.s. political process, political organizations, et cetera. and there is no reason to believe that russia in particular will not attack again, and the big concern, anderson, is that this time, they will take the alarming step of targeting voter tallies. that didn t happen in 2016, but there s real concern a lot of these probing attacks or laying the ground work for going after voting systems, vote counting potentially in 2018 and 2020. ambassador burns, in your testimony in front of the senate intelligence committee today, you said if the president continues to refuse to act against russian hacking is a dereliction of duty to protect the country. we were the victim of a massive cyber attack by the russian government. all of our intelligence services agree. for six months the president has done nothing. he has not initiated an investigation into what happened. he s not had conversations with his cabinet officials to ask them what they think happened. he s not been talking to the european governments, also victims, the french, the dutch, the germans of russian cyber attacks. he s not even in favor of a senate bill that voted to impose harsh sanctions on russia. the administration is trying to dilute that bill. so you literally have no response from the american president on a critical issue of defense of the united states and trying to protect our democratic process. i can t imagine any prior president acting this way. and so we do need to see this situation turned around. let s hope that this executive order is the first step to do that. jim, today secretary kelly said hacking is the way of the future. how much can intelligence agencies drive u.s. efforts to combat that if the president isn t devoting his time to it? reporter: the intelligence agencies, law enforcement have been really doing all they can. they did it in private. they ve been giving these warnings for months, going back to the obama administration. and then in public, you ve had very public statements, fingering russia for hacking the 2016 campaign. but now public testimony, more details how many states, 21 states that have been targeted. secretary kelly, this is president trump s own appointee, sounding the alarm today. so in public and private, they are giving these warnings. this is at its base often very much a partisan issue. but i ll tell you, i hear bipartisan level of concern and increasingly a bipartisan frustration with the efforts coming from the white house so far. so ambassador burns, if they had the weight of the white house behind them, how much would that change things for the intelligence community in terms of doing something? it would help enormously. you have to raise the defense of this country, and that s complicated. it s our states and local authorities who run the elections, so you have to have that dialogue, a federal, local, state dialogue. number two, you want to send a stiff message to the russian federation that we re not going to tolerate this kind of attack on our ore down country. you want to work with the europeans to tighten up what the nato alliance can do. you want to find and prosecute hackers. if the russian government is subcontracting this to some of the private hacking organizations in that country. there s so much that has to be done. this should have been the first executive order signed january 20th. you ought to they ought to think about forming a 9/11 type commission, because there s nothing more important that the american people have confidence in their votes when they go to the ballot box, either for the midterm elections in 2018 or the next presidential election in 2020. thanks. coming up next, the president is promising a big surprise on the obamacare replacement bill. we ll look at what it might be, as well as his habit of telling us to stay tuned for something, and then not necessarily delivering. we re keeping them honest, next. hey, bud. you need some help? 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(vo) introducing the subaru impreza. the longest-lasting vehicle in its class. more than a car, it s a subaru. senate obamacare replacement bill. health care is working along very well. we re going to have a big surprise with a great health care package. what is the big surprise, sir? it s going to be great. the surprise might be the last thing people with health care might want to hear or experience. the president made a point of putting it out there, and a surprise might be coming. whether that s good or bad remains to be seen. what s clear is that donald trump enjoys telling us all to stay tuned. we ve heard that phrase a lot. and keeping them honest, we ve seen him fail to deliver on schedule or in some cases at all. here s a small sample. we re going to be announcing something over the next two or three weeks that will be phenomenal. we re going to do construction very quickly. we ve got the plan largely completed and we ll be filing over the next two or three weeks, maybe sooner. we re going to have some pleasant surprises on nafta. so she s going to have a little news conference. we ll be having a news conference in about two weeks to let everybody know how well we re doing. people now in hawaii absolutely. and they cannot believe what they re finding. we never got word on what his investigators found. there was no evidence that those investigators existed or were on the ground. fast forward to now, what the president is promising, you have to wonder whether the real surprise is there is no surprise, whether anticipation will give away to anticiappointment. joining us now is jim acosta. this great great surprise, do we have any idea what we might be referring to? reporter: we re going have to find out. if it s something like those tapes that he talked about having, which did not exist about six weeks ago, we had to wait six weeks to find out the president did not have any recordings. i am told by one republican source that the president is looking at a variety of ways to try to make this work, to get those 50 votes that he needs to get this bill out of the senate. but that same source, anderson, said it s suspected this might be another case of empty rhetoric. keep in mind, this is a health care bill. we had a number of polls come out today, all of them, if you average them together, show that this has about 20 to 25% approval among the american people. those are legislative dog food numbers. to think that you re going to have 50 republican senators, some of them up for re-election, that will sign on to this, he might be in for a big sur prize of his own, anderson. should we expect more effort by the president, more face-to-face interaction with the senators, some more working the phones. we ve been told he s been working the phones. reporter: he has been working the phones and will continue to work the phones. the question is whether or not he can make the math work and part of the issue is, anderson, and you know we ve been talking about this debate for several days, can he make adjustments to the bill that satisfy moderates when it comes to medicaid funding while at the same time appeasing conservatives who really want to repeal and replace obamacare just begs the question how many times can they rinse and repeat on repeal and replace. jim acosta, thank you for the update. on that new polling, the most recent is from fox news, showing just 27% support, 18% say they are ensure. th back now with david chalian. does anyone know what the president is telegraphing when he promising a big surprise on health care? i can t find anyone that knows. certainly the white house isn t saying. nobody on capitol hill seems to know some surprise. some republicans on the hill were feeling more optimistic today than yesterday. although there s not much evidence as to why, other than yesterday mcconnell had to reset. so it was a down day for republicans on the hill. but i can t find anyone that knows of a surprise coming. as you pointed out, anderson, donald trump has a history of being addicted to a big reveal promoting one, even if one never comes. although to be fair, when the house was debating this, there was a lot of talk that they weren t going to come to agreement. they did finally come to an agreement. the president could just be saying a surprise is, you know, maybe he thinks the chances are that they will come to agreement and people will be surprised by that. i want to play something that susan collins said yesterday how the president is adapting to washington. let s play that. this president is the first president in our history who has had neither political nor military experience. and that s it has been a challenge to him to learn how to interact with congress and how to push his agenda forward. david, i think that supporters are listening to that and they like that he s not a creature of washington. to her point that he needs to be able to work with congress if he wants to accomplish his agenda, i suppose there s truth to that. you re absolutely right. he was sent to washington to disrupt washington and the way washington works new york doubt about that. but i would just point, if you look at the totality of the trump presidency, i would say the cleanest victory he has had throughout his presidency is getting neil gorsuch on the supreme court and i think he followed the most washington playbook doing that. he put out a list of potential nominees for everyone to look at and vet. and then he made sure to nominate from that list, so he had buy-in from all the outside groups and the republicans on the hill and he was able to get his guy on the court. he followed a traditional playbook, that was his biggest success. senator chuck schumer said he would like the democrats to come to the white house to work on this bill. any chance that might happen? it s hard to see that happening right now. why? if you re a democrat, would you decide that working with the republican president who beats up on you every day and down to 39% approval rating would be a good idea? i don t think there s a political incentive to do it. their own base would be enraged if they did, because they re fueled by anti-trump fervor. and mitch mcconnell himself said, you know, if we have to work with the democrats, it means we re not going to get the reforms we want in health care. so i don t think republicans would be that eager for that kind of help either. coming up, the president likes to talk about what he considers fake news but he doesn t seem to have any problems of a fake news cover. the washington post discovered this kind of just weird story. that s next. so that s the idea. what do you think? hate to play devil s advocate but. i kind of feel like it s a game changer. i wouldn t go that far. are you there? he s probably on mute. yeah. gary won t like it. why? 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obviously maybe not as favorable mentions as this fake one, but why would he need a fake cover boasting about him? well, there are probably a couple of things going on here. one is that there isn t ever enough praise for mr. trump, and i think the normal headline that would appear in time magazine would be insufficient for him. but i also think this could be a case of someone trying to please him. there is an expectation around the trump orbit of constantly making the extra effort to have him look good, have him look even more accomplished than he might be. so someone could have gotten carried away with what they thought was a good idea. it s almost as if you put it out there, how do you take it down? everybody gets accustomed to seeing this. but kudos to david for noticing this and using his reporter s instincts to note it and follow up on it, because once you ge lr than i think any magazine editor would allow him to look. because it s almost like a wax figure representation of donald trump. and the headlines are way over the david, it s not just somebody in one of his clubs like mocking this up to praise, you know, the boss. these were clearly sent around to multiple clubs. that s right. and it wasn t just passed out at one time either. there are clubs like the one in ireland and scotland he only bought the last couple of years. so they were only trumpiified recently. so they were making an effort as they opened new clubs, this was part of the stuff that you added when you redecorated the club in the trump style. obviously, people are being critical that this is a minor thing. but if president trump or even citizen trump at the time knew about it, it does say something about his personality or what he likes. did the president know about it? we don t. i asked the white house that question and i asked the trump organization the same question and they wouldn t say. one thing that was interesting to me, you would think he must have known it was fake. how could he not know that he wasn t on the cover of time magazine. but i found this interview from last year where trump is talking about how much bigger than politics is that business. he said i ve been on the cover of time magazine a lot as a politician, but all those years i was a businessman, i was on the cover twice. really he was only on the cover once in 1989. so he might have been counting this fake cover as a real one. so it s possible that trump was not even in on the joke that he thought it was real and somebody fooled him. michael, do you think as some are saying that this just underscores howpresident wants and praise of the media? despite all the anti-media rhetoric, he consumes more media than anybody i ve ever heard of. you think about the activities of his life, they involve around publicity seeking that far exceeds the developments that he s built or the golf courses he s developed. so you ve got to think he s a headline writer going way back. twitter is his version of tabloid newspaper headlines. so he produces it. he wants to appear in the media constantly. and i think until the presidency, this was a measure of success for him. the problem, as senator collins mentioned in your previous piece, is that he has to learn how to be the president now and achieve actual things, and that s a much different thing from ginning up a fake time magazine cover or seeking awards, which he also did avidry, from organizations that he created. so it s a steep learning curve. we mentioned that time magazine asked the trump organization to take them down. do we know, have they? i heard from a trump club in virginia, that one has been taken down. i don t know about the rest. we know from people s photos in the past that they were there. and we re trying to figure if it had come down. one thing that just going off the other point, these clubs are nice. in fact, the clubs themselves are signs of success. you couldn t be successful, to own a club like this you need to be successful. yet they felt the need to add a phony trophy on something that was trump s success. up next, the president s obsession with the media rages on. at the last press briefing, the press secretary lashed out and a reporter said enough is enough. he joins us next. pain i could t sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i m back! aleve pm for a better am. working my canister off to clean and shine and give proven protection against fading and aging. he won t use those copycat wipes. hi.doing anything later? 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jim wasn t there. somebody had to do it. [ laughter ] all i can say it was very frustrating. that was the first on-camera interview in a week with the press secretary. she came out and the first thing she did was blast the media. it was on purpose. it was planned. jim and april probably know me well enough to know there s very little filter between what i think and what i say. i was quite upset about it, and so i voiced my concern. i am tired of look, every one of us knows reporters that have been bullied, have been hurt, some have died, some have been jailed to try to do this job. and they went after cnn specifically but they went after all reporters generically. at the same time sarah is telling us to look at a video that isn t vetted and is fake media and lamb blasting us for being fake media. it s disingenuous. at some point in time i taught my kids there s only two ways to deal with a bully, make them your friend or thump them one. i m tired of being pushed around. jim, the incident that she started talking about, which is three employees resigned over it, and there were repercussions for errors that they made. has anyone in this white house given all the lies or untrue statements has anyone s head has anyone had to resign based on, mistakes they have made so far? so far, anderson, no. when the president founded birterrism and perpetuated the myth president obama was born in another country. when he said his inauguration crowd side was bigger than president obama s, no one had to resign. when he said he was wire tapped at trump tower, no one had to resi resign. when he said he had tapes of jim comey, no one had to resign. when it comes to this white house, when it comes to fake news, no one gets in trouble, namely the president. brian is right. i appreciate him speaking up yesterday. i think more of us will be speaking up in the days to come. it s funny, the off-camera briefing happened on mon kay. we had one on camera tuesday and an off-camera one today. and yet the one yesterday is where they lash out at the news media. i wonder how that happened. i don t know how the emoji goes. i would put that to use in this case. mike flynn resigned but that was for lying to the vice president who then went on television and told an untruth. i don t think they ve ever even admitted a mistake, this administration. the president has always been reticent to do that even during the campaign. april, president trump challenges anything that doesn t fit into his own perceptions of reality or what he wants other people to believe reality is. he s done some inconsequential things like the crowd side at his inauguration and with important issues like russia s interference in the election. yes. well, you know, this president has a very different take on reality. and just today in the briefing room there was a question of the two guests that sarah huckabee sanders brought out. the president likes to say that the numbers of illegal immigrants in this nation are 30 million. and then we ask the professionals from doj and from homeland security. they said what they re hearing or what they ve been seeing is 11 million to 12 million. so this president likes to inflate things, but yet we are the liars, we are the fake people. it just doesn t add up. i will say this. jim and brian for the last couple of days there was something that happened today in that briefing room. today people pushed back in unison. good. against sarah huckabee when she came when she came to the podium and said, you know, oh, well, if we had the victims here, you wouldn t cover it and this, that, and the other. you wouldn t cover this. yes, we have. and then others have said why is there not a briefing on camera? so i believe the push is getting momentum. and, again, it s not about us. it isn t, you re right. it s about free press, the american public, getting the information from the highest office in the land, from the man they elected. and the author of managing the president s message said if you don t hear the president s voice, that s why the briefing, particularly an on-camera briefing is so important. and we re not hearing the president s voice. as jim has said over and over again. we ve had one solo press conference. that was february. what is this, june. brian, what do you say, though, to folks who are listening at home who think this is reporters complaining about their jobs being difficult or complaining about not being respected? i think april makes a great point. it s not about us. it s about what this president is doing. look, i separate from the president from his white house press staff because sometimes they ve shown promise for doing some things. i credit them for bringing in people from the cabinet to talk to us in some of the briefings. i give them credit for all that. but this president has undermined us from the very beginning. he s called us enemies of the people. he has told us we are fake media, and he is trying to undermine and drive a wedge between the electorate and us and we are the public. we are the republic. so it s attempt to go undermine the first amendment, he s trying to undermine the republic to sell a message. and the message is what i say is factual and whatever else you hear is not. there are some people that listen to that but slowly i have to tell you i was i know our frustration in the room, and jim has kind of led that struggle. the thing he went through on monday in the press room kind of led indirectly to what happened to me and april was the first ones to speak up in that press room. the three of us together, i don t know, be it could be dangerous. the point being is that in that room we have felt the tension. but after what i said yesterday i ve gotten presents from people and i ve never seen i struck a merv. i didn t ex inspect to strike a nerve outside the press room. but i think the public is really beginning to vibrate with them and it s bothering them. and that s important. brian karem, i appreciate you being with us. again, brian i m sorry, april. we have to cut it off. i just want to say this it s not about us. it s about the american public getting their information, freedom of the press. that s right. april ryan, jim acosta, i appreciate it. more coming up about the president s fund-raiser. the earliest ever kickoff. ethical questions and some strategic reasons behind why the president is doing it. the late details when we continue. americans - 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let s do more. add one a day men s complete with key nutrients we may need. plus heart-health support with b vitamins. one a day men s in gummies and tablets.
details of the meetings and who was there. i am much more interested in what it says about our political culture, the fact you have got two sides. you have got half the country who thinks this is the worst thing that ever happened and the only thing we should be talking about. and the other half looks at that and thinks it s crazy. kimberly: it s old news in terms are terms in terms of russia trying to point fear with elections around the world. should we be concerned about it? absolutely. it s become more a whole thing about delusions. people are delusional about the collusion. they are not getting anything done so the working class, men and women across this tridon t want knowing do with that. they want food on the table, jobs, something done about healthcare and they want washington to get to work. but washington is sick. they are weighted down with all this and it s become very ineffective and all they do is s bloviate on and on about this. donald trump was ushered in to change things and shake it up. we ll see if mueller comes to some kinds of conclusion relatively quickly. i hope he does for the sake of the country and the goodwill with everybody. this obsession is so unhealthy and counter productive to everything we are spotted to stand for. people rrnlt work on them, they are focusing on this obsession with russia. steve: a great summary. whatever side you come from. lucy, from the left, do you think there is anyone in the democrats or just on the left generally handling this right who is speaking up for working people? i think in general d.c. always had a problem walk and chewing gum at the same time. democrats did it because they had to take attention way from the election. now it s literally just really a problematic with d.c. in general. the american people should be hearing about what s happening to the healthcare debate, and the fact so many people are about to lose necessary and critical healthcare services and here we are going on and on. i think it s us. i think it the the show, those of us who continue to be try stuff that people are obsessed with. steve: on that side, i think kim makes a good point. you have the democrats who lost touch, but the one person who didn t is bernie sanders. it seems to me there is a lot of people attacking him, his wife, all this stuff about land deals and trying to tarnish him. there is a story in the new york times today. when we talk about decadent d.c. is bernie can t be bought. bernie crowd funded the majority of his campaign. he raised hundreds of millions of dollars from every day people giving small amounts of money. and that s the kind of people, and that s why at the same time people gravitated the towards someone like donald trump. they feel like they are outsiders and there is a tendency to not want people to have some kind of loyalty to the insider lobbyist class writing the donor class, et cetera. that s what people want. they want this outsider. however, i have to say in terms of what donald trump has done to bring real change to d.c., i haven t seen it there either. steve: i actually agree. i said the first time i was on the show, we ll hold him to account. kimberly: i m not interested in turning this into a republican versus a democratic theme. the conversations needs to be about who are these people? if they were donald trump, i would say fantastic, i m not that party but he s draining the swamp. i think the american people want that outsider perspective. the person who is not obligate to this insider decadent d.c. class. steve: it s not just about the white house. it s also who is in congress. george, i want to leave it with you. is your sympathy with the outsiders storming the barricades? in general, yes. we are supposed to have a federal government that is highly responsible to people s needs. not directly to represent but actively think conceiving of policies to advance people s interests. they are not doing that. in figure they are probably too directly responsible to people who helped elect them two months earlier. we have such a curtailing of election cycle now. somebody gets into the house. they are running for reelection. kimberly: instead of the interests of people who elected them. steve: there are mind-boggling amounts of money made by hospitals. an interview no parent should miss. education reform in america. how can we get powerful teachers unions to put the interests of the children first. we grilled up revolutionary food in our parking lot and kimberly will try it out later in the show. stranglehold teachers had on the city. he s running for governor. he s talking about how he did the and how it might happen nationwide. to me this issue is so fundamental. and often it s a left-right thing. but you showed it doesn t need to be. tell us when you were mayor of los angeles, what you did and how you did it. it s the economic and civil rights issue of our time, particularly when you look at who s not getting educated. they are primarily poor kids of color. when i became mayor we had a 44% graduation rate. i took it on. i didn t take it on to take on the teachers union or the other bureaucrats. i wanted to fight for kid, and i did. we set high standard. we are going to say i believe in you, i will invest in you. we moved our graduation rates from 44% to 72%. i took in a subset of the schools with 36% graduation rate and they now have 84%. steve: when you say take it on. what was the reform? i got the 8 to give the mayor the opportunity to partner with the school district. when we passed that. arnold schwarzenegger signed it, a democratic legislature passed it. the school district sued and fought. so we decided to elect a school board that was supportive of our efforts to put kids first. that helps create a situation where we doubled the number of successful schools at 800 and above and increased the graduation rate. steve: the system itself wasn t going to deliver results. it was clear they weren t. the high school i graduated from had a 20% graduation rate in 2001. when i became mayor in 2005, they improved to a 35%. steve: you actually at one point were an organizer for the teachers union. but you weren t called the united teachers union. what was the one roadblock? they didn t like the. i m pro union and pro teacher. they have a tough job. but i m pro kid. i believe in unions, i think parents ought to have one, and i think kids don t have one so i was going to fight for them. that s what we did. you talked about the innovation economy, we won t have one if these kids aren t graduating from high school. we are in a state with 80% graduation rate. 13% of the kid of color are going to four-year colleges. that s not a recipe for success. the next governor will have to set high standard and bring technology into our classrooms. rethink what schools look like. we pattern our schools including the school year after an agrarian economy that doesn t make sense. steve: i talked about it, too. they like factory schools. they are churning out kids like they are on a production line. it s often it is the institutions, the existing school boards and the unions and people who invested in the status quo in the way of change and you took that on. i am interested in what that felt like. for you as a politician from the left, what did it feel like? i wasn t looking for a fight. but i grew up in a tough neighborhood and i wasn t afraid of a fight. i tried to partner for a couple years. but when there was opposition after opposition to anything that was new, we started to push back. steve: that s the kind of leadership i think you have got to see. otherwise it will all stay the same. this isn t left or right. this is the right thing to do for kids who without that kind of advocacy, we are not making enough progress. steve: totally agree. thanks for coming on. next the panel joins to us talk about the same topic. the state of our country s education system and what we can do about it. hospitals are places of healing. but did you know they contribute to our nation s swampy politic. the next revolution is coming right back. and i did not get it back. that affected my next campaign. many of us who do oppose who for the most of part are friends. when we have to say in this situation yes we are still friends, but this is what s important, what we are going to accomplish for these children, it doesn t go very well for us. steve require shouldn t be a left-right thing. it shouldn t. i prefer a partnership. at some point people will realize that s the best way to go forward. but i m going to fight for those kids. i was one of them. if i grew up in a home with chog and drugs and i was a high school dropout. i group like many of them, we were making too many excuses before. and those excuses aren t acceptable. it s just a fact. steve: joe, it isn t something you can just fix from on high by some bureaucrat telling. you need changes. it s a structural problem. economists have studied this for decades. maybe you have unions in the car factories. but the idea of a public sector union where not on are they bargaining collectively to extract as much as they can, but they are also hoping to elect their bosses with whom they are bargaining. steve: you expect to be governor. you are trying hard. just in terms of the debt and the fiscal position of california. that s a big issue for any politician running for office. it is a big issue and i have a track record. we were facing a bankruptcy. almost everybody said l.a. was going bankrupt. i got current employees to go from 6% to 1% contribution to their pension. then i said, instead of getting 100% of their salary at 55 would get 50% at 65. unfortunately they changed that after i left now it s back to where it was. kim rrp i have some strong opinions about education, having worked as a teacher and been an educator. i caught kindergarten through high school, and specializing in children with emotional needs. i saw how poor the system is in some of these public schools where you have children being treated not as individuals but as a collective group. it s important to bring education away from the national level like to common core. it s not one size fits all. take it down to the local level and make it tailored for a child s need. and give parents some of that choice to be a success with charter schools and the parents being participatory in it. and i would like to see reform. you should reward good teachers. steve: this is something you did in terms of the performance in teachers? yes, we said we thought it was important top evaluate our teachers. we have done surveys that showed oftentimes the principal hadn t been in a classroom but would evaluate these people and oftentimes give them a satisfactory or better evaluation. what we said is you have got to go into the classroom. and we should be able to evaluate on a number of factors including where a kid starts and where they ends up. not the only factor, but one of the factors. i think it many important to talk about accountability across the board. there are just as bad charters and there are bad public schools. we need accountability at all levels whether it s public or private. steve: that s a fair point. if we had more of a marketplace you could get a level playing field. i appreciate you joining us tonight. still ahead. kimberly and the panel taste test a special bigger. hospitals drain save lives but n wallets. brupss. the reason republicans are having such problems reforming obamacare is it all costs so much. we showed how the pharmaceutical industry and its corrupt stooges in congress keep drug prices high. tonight we ll talk about the role hospitals play. hospitals sounds like charitable institutions. most of of them avoid paying tax because they are charitable non-profits. the local hospital with your friendly doctor has been replaced by vast mega hospitals run by administrators in multi million done a packages. like michael dowling. he raked in $10 million a year. let s all join a non-profit. the insanely expensive hospital bills you get. if you are a go-getting chief executive, healthcare or farm or pharmaceuticals is the business to be in. those in healthcare and pharmaceuticals were paid $37 million more than any other sector. communications, real estate and industrials don t even come close. a wall street journal analysis found the largest non-profit compensation package went to a non-profit ascension. i have nothing against high pay. i believe in markets and people who create value in the marketplace should be rewarded. but it s got to be fair. especially in healthcare where there is a lot of taxpayer money sloshing around. the reason hospitals can pay their boss so much is they charge so much either through your insurance or tax for obscene amounts of money. they have a charge master. the charge master price isn t based on cost. even something as simple as a pack of gauze pads can some of the $70. if you want to save money you want to check it out. it even comes from free two-day shipping. but how do they get away from this profiteering? simple, squeeze out the competition. we have seen wave after wave of mergers of hospitals. a study look at hospital mergers found they didn t improve quality of care and hospital consolidation generally results in higher prices. when hospitals morning in already concentrated markets, the price increase can be dramatic. often exceeding 20%. they are not just harming patients, they are also costing taxpayers while making politicians super healthy. rick scott, the same rick scott who is not you republican governor of florida. he was won chairman of the hospital network and had the swampy distinction of presiding over the largest fraud in u.s. history. the hospital corporation. america paid a $1.7 billion settlement for fraudulently billing taxpayer medicare by filing false cost reports. they admitted to giving doctors partnerships in the their company hospital as a kickback for those doctors referring patients to the hca. what was the quality of care like? according to the money-driven medicine, not good. scott was focused on profits, not patient care. one technician complained about having to watch 72 heart man towards at once. nurses complained babies in the neonatal unit were left unattended for up to 3 hours. scott who resigned as chairman of the company got a $10 million settlement and left with $300 million worth of stock and then he somehow got elected of florida and now boasts he helped shape the gop plan to repeal and replace obamacare. great, just the kind of person you want involved. non-profit has gotten in on the racket as well by price fixing and building super monopolies. upmc controls 55% of the market, recorded $13 billion in revenue. quite the charity. meanwhile the region s main health insurer controlled between 60% to 80% of the market. as steven brill documents in his book by bitter pill. he cording to the complaint the hospital and insurer were colluding to eliminate competition and drive up prices, harming the patient they are supposed to care about. high mark agreed to pay sharp increases because it could raise premiums with no fear of competition. guess how much the ceo of this tax exempt non-profit hospital was making? $4 million a year. even regular doctors are in on the racket. doctors refer patient to each other and keep patients in hospital longer than necessary risking picking up infection just to make more money. while you are watching the point scoring over the senate healthcare bill just remember it s all beside the point unless the grandstanding politicians in the pockets of the health triactually do something about healthcare costs. that will only happen if we drain the health swamp. i can t wait to get stuck into the health insurance companies next week. don t mitts. the panel reacts to this week s swamp watch. and can this burger revolution revolutionize. kimberly and the panel put the burger to the taste test. don t miss it. for years, centurylink has been promising fast internet to small businesses. but for many businesses, it s out of reach. why promise something you can t deliver? comcast business is different. we deliver super-fast internet with speeds of 250 megabits per second across our entire network, to more companies, in more locations, than centurylink. we do business where you do business. reimbursement. get guess what, they will set high prices. you sell watches. steve: how do they get away with it? in some places there is competition. in northern california there are two hospitals. the self-contained system works better. stanford university is beautiful where a robot dispenses the drugs for you. i think this is. the really hot topic people are talking about, people have been whining about obamacare and healthcare for years. now they have the house and the congress, the senate, the oval. now they have to do something about it. there is a real lack of competition. i m a big free marketer. and it bothers me when i see monopolies of hospitals. and it s squeezing profits at the expense of quality of care it s become so transitional that you are losing the ability to focus on the individual coming family members trying to get affordable care to the point where people are afraid to get it. they are making choices which makes us sicker as a nation, and people aren t taking care of themselves. steve: what s interesting is that s not in the conversation in this bill. we don t talk about the competition. i m asupporter of universal healthcare for all. single payer expansion of medicare. whatever that looks like, i think to kim s point, when you start to put profits over people, profits over good healthcare, then that s always a recipe for disaster. ultimately when you have someone whose job description is to get the most of amount of money, the most of amount of profits for his investors, then that s what he s going to do. steve: i want to make it clear, i believe in the profit motive. i think it s a driving force. for many of the good things we see in the world. but it on works if we have cop mettive markets. kim: i believe you can achieve that. there should be payment of costs for the far suit cal companies and providers and that can be achieved under a single-payer system. but you have to remove the profit motive out of the entire system. kimberly: venezuela. who wants to go there for medical care. we are the youth, we can figure this out. that s what our elected representatives are supposed to be doing for us theoretically. we can figure this out. steve: as we know, this is a debate that will go on and on. i m pleased we got to talk about some the aspects of it. so many places where we agree. steve: we ll do it again and figure it next time. you have seen her food reviews on the five. but how will kimberly guilfoyle rate a revolutionary new delicacy. people are developing a taste for meat and the budgets pay fo? it. that is just not sustainable what is the verdict? i give it a ten. it is good. i have to say. side-by-side taste test with9+ñe burger made of preferred this. it syzñ?ñ? very juicy,(rñ?ñ?. i suggest you wear of the above sorts. for those of us who do care about and think about our impact on the environment, this is so good. there is an incredibly interesting story here. if it didn t taste good, i wouldn t do it. thank you very much. if you want to try and impossible burger in california, you can find them at that amount may burger. before we leave you tonight i want to thank our panel and say thank you to you for joining us. i m steve hilton.
apparently he got the nickname of the commodore in his days as a kid running those ferry services in new york harbor. the other guys who worked the harbor alongside him called him commodore as a way of teasing him. and it stuck. and then that kid who they mocked as the commodore grew up to amass one of the largest fortunes in american history. the kind of fortune that leaves a mark. in 1917 right next to the then-brand new grand central station opposite vand built avenue, a huge new hotel went up with thousands of rooms. it was called the commodore hotel. it was named after correspond kneel i couldn t say, the commodore vand built. had a statute of him right out front. and that hotel was one of new york s big successful shmancy centrally located famous it was a big deal because the commodore hotel was a big landmark piece of new york real estate right next to grand central station. it also had this poetic storied connection to the great vanderbilt family. but it was a high-profile deal because that young real estate developer put the city over a barrel in order to do the deal. you want tax abatements and special treatment. by and large you ve gotten special treatment? that s correct. hektd very special treatment ten years ago when new york city was thought to be going bankrupt. trump, who was then a brash 28-year-old, bought the difficult lap dated commodore hotel on 42nd street just as it was about to be boarded up. he gutted it. from a real estate has become the hottest city in the world. people are flocking here by droves. and i guess a lot of things had to do with it, mostly i feel it was the psychology of making new york a winner as opposed to a loser. it s a nice line, but straight public relations. the tax holiday that the trump organization was given to build this hotel in 42nd street is it worth $45 million but donald trump wouldn t dream of blushing. probably it s greatest thing the city ever did and the city is the first to acknowledge it. they went overboard and gave a break for the first time in the history of new york we got this commercial tax abatement. i would have never built the development if i didn t get the tax abatement. taking over that old landmark hotel when the city was in dire straits. that whole deal wasn t a private real estate deal. it involved a whole a lot of skin in the game from taxpayers. the arrangements over that hotel deal was trump would be absolved of paying millions of dollars, over $150 million in property taxes that the city would have otherwise collected from him. in exchange the stiff new york was basically they became a stake holder. they were guaranteed financial stake in the hotel s success. the city would receive annual payments based on how the hotel did each year. the city gets a piece of the hotel s revenue. and you know what? the hotel did pay the city. the whole deal worked for a few years until it didn t. trump got his side of the deal okay. he didn t have to pay $150 million in property taxes. but by around 1986, the hotel was doing really well. it was doing better than it had ever done before revenue wise. so the city was expecting the several million dollars from the deal each year thus for. starting in 1986 the payments stopped coming. the hotel just randomly that year sent over a few hundred thousand dollars instead of the millions of dollars the city was expecting. that s where the story gets really good. it was bad, terrible for new york. bad overall in terms of the balance of good and evil in the world. but this story is good for us as americans in our in terms of trying to understand what s happening to our government and to the american presidency now and why. this is why. this is andrew weissman a career prosecutor who made his name helping to dismantling organized crime networks including organized crime rackets that were running schemes on wall street. one of those cases got him involved in the prosecution of a one-time member of the trump organization a man who played a key role in the development of and the money behind the trump soho project. he also led the enron task force which unraveled that multibillion dollars complex corporate con job. andrew weissman works for robert mueller now. then there s lisa page. she s a former prosecutor with deep experience in organized crime and money laundering including working with an fbi task force that has pursued money laundering cases related to putin-connected oligarchs. this is greg andres, he s the latest hire we know of on robert mueller s special counsel investigation. he ran the fraud unit in the criminal division of the u.s. justice department. he specializes is money laundering, tax fraud, market manipulation, corruption. greg andres is a big fish. he also now works for robert mueller. three weeks ago, bloomburg was first to report the mueller investigation was turning to trump s business past. trump s business transactions. that ninety we called john dowd to get his response to the news. he responded to us bizarrely. mr. dowd told us he did not believe that business transactions were under investigation by the mueller investigation. he told us he just didn t think that was true. and then he told our producer who was on the phone with him, quote, this is the last call we will ever have, and then he hung up. it was really weird. whether or not the president s lawyer chooses to believe it or not, by the end of last week, cnn was flashing it out. quote, the fbi is reviewing financial records related to the trump organization as well as trump himself, his family members, his campaign associates. they ve combed through the list of shell companies and buyers of trump real estate properties and scrutinized the tenants of trump tower reaching back more than a half dozen years. which you would think wouldn t give him enough time to be working for other people as well, apparently proceed pro bono at 4:00 in the morning on a weeknight. but here s the tell. here s where history starts to help and where something that otherwise doesn t make sense kind of starts make sense. look at the difference how paul manafort and donald trump are reacting here to what s going on in the mueller investigation. paul manafort has dropped his previous legal representation as of last night. he has now set up a new legal team to represent him, one that specializes in taxes, banking, foreign crypt practices act. his new lead lawyer is literally a certified public accountant in addition to being a lawyer. that makes sense given the turn in the investigation. in contrast, the president is not doing that. the president is not putting together that kind of team. he s got the new york guy who handled his divorce records and who threatens the new york times. he s got the christian rights attorney who goes on funds a lot and who could definitely defend the president very well if it turns out the major legal liabilities that he s put up a ten commandments tablet in the oval office. the president also has this new lead attorney whose highest attorney experience in the past was having a hedge fund client not just convicted but given the longest sentence ever for insider trading and whose more recent financial experience appears to be the late night misspelled e-mails about the wrong client that he s sending to the wall street journal. hey, at least it s wall street. as this investigation into the president has turned into a follow if money kind of thing, as it has turned toward financial matters, the president has not tuned up his defense, his representation, to meet that kind of a challenge. he doesn t have legal financial specialists on board. he doesn t have tax attorneys on board. even previous presidents in other smaller scandals have had. other presidents in smaller scandals have had people on board at this stage going through the finances with a fine-toothed comb, red teaming any discrepancies or potential problems. whether or not there is anything in president trump s finances that will ultimately draw attention from the special counsel, it s interesting and notable that the president doesn t appear to be preparing any sort of financial defense against a special counsel team that is absolutely chock-full of financial specialists. why is that? go back to the commodore hotel. when that deal between trump and the city of new york went bad in the 80s because the city figured out he had stopped paying his part of the deal, when that that went basd bad, something unusual happened. he used this deal to not pay property taxes. when the city realized he wasn t giving them their cut of the profits, they didn t just sue him to get their money. they got access to his books. there was a ciauditor s office. he had this deal with the city. so the city was able to get the books. the city was able to audit the hotel. and to this day, that commodore hotel scandal remains one of the only times we the public have ever been allowed to see how the president conducts himself financially in business. 80s new york city officials found that his partners had short changed the city out of $2.8 million. it was an example off extraordinary flimflammery. audittors found trump in this letter he signed formally authorized accounting changes that understated the hotel s profits to lower what was owed the city in rental fees. uniquey? it was very sneaky. he cheated the city a substantial sum of money. she was the new york city auditor general in 1986. and it took a couple of years, tons of stone walling on the part of trump, but container ber seen the and her team did audit and report on how trump was running that business. and her public report concluded that basically trump was running two sets of books. one that was the real estimate of prochltsd at the hotel and another set they used just for this deal with the city to try to maintain a front that showed that the hotel was broke and didn t have to pay the city anything. the city s audit said trump used, quote, an accounting methodology that the abrent and distoretive to make it look like the hotel owed less to the city. abc looked at this again last year. cbs got forensic audittors to look at the five kids. they described, quote, failures in basic bookkeeping, and efforts to stymie officials. in the course of trying to do this audit at the hotel back in the day, the autotors at one point were physically blocked from being allowed into the trump hotel to start the audit and that went on for more than a year. according to the cbs s report, it was what the city s audittors discovered inside that most surprised them, the amount of financial information that was simply missing, the amount of missing information was staggering. ledgers to show income expenses, the ledgers for seven months out of the 12-month year were simply gone. the hotel said the ledgers had been sent to new jersey and then lost in a flood? the computerized version of those records, the hotel said those were sent to chicago, but after those records got sent to chicago, somehow they just disappeared. sad. but the audit did get done. it was very, very ugly. all sorts of shenanigans went on for years with this inning thflt at one point trump offered a job to the auditor s brother so he could work at the trump organization. the trump side sued the city over releasing the report to the public. a city clerk then conveniently mislabored the case so it effectively got lost in the files for years until after trump had sold off his shares at the hotel at which point another clerk came across the mislabored case and resurrected it. it was just a disaster. but if you are wondering why, now as an american citizen, why as president donald trump is behaving strangely when it comes to special counsel investigation, consider that the potential legal exposure of his financial dealings as a businessman, if that s where the special counsel s investigation is going, that would be something almost prpunprecedent in his entire 71 years of life. obviously he hasn t released his tax returns, two pages of one federal return from 2005. that s all anybody has seen of his taxes ever. his business, the trump organization, it s privately held, and it s beyond that, infen tes mally small. there s also a trump foundation which as a nonprofit, they did have to make public disclosures because they re nonprofit. those filings were such a line by line disaster area they became a full-time beat for reporters like the washington post s david faron hold last year earning him a pulitzer prize and showing the country how trump illegally used his nonprofit to settle lawsuits related to his business and make political donations to appear to be tied to things he wanted for his business much how they used the nonprofit as a way to uses other people s money to pay for things like his son s boy scouts membership fee which was $7. he also used his nonprofit to buy portraits of himself to hang at his golf courses. that created such a mess for him that he tried to close the nonprofit and new york state won t let him because they say if that thing got shut down, it would interfere with an ongoing investigation. so that didn t go well. and that foundation stuff which was a catastrophe, that s just what happened when people got a peek at what s supposed to be the nonprofit part of his finances the part he knew would have to one day be open to the public. if it s true the investigation is now prying open the real business part of his finances, stuff he never thought would ever be made public, it is worth knowing that we ve had precisely one peek over the years into what those look like. it was an example of extraordinary flimflammery. extraordinary flimflammery. it s also worth noticing that the president appears to be making no preparation whatsoever to defend anything in his finances, to boack him up, lega representation. the tiny window we have had into what s in his finances 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themselves with honor. donald trump has no honor. he doesn t see anything wrong with the things that he does. one of the reasons they may not be worried at all about what s going to happen is he now that see power of the pardon which is pretty close to unlimited. he can t undo what s happened, and he has in the past relied heavy on missing records and documents. that s a lot of what bureau seen t the s work was about. it s not particularly surprising but talks important thing to keep in mind here is that to trump not paying you for work that you did, not honoring a contract, cutting off the health care of your own grand nephew and putting his life in jeopardy, what else could i do would be his attitude. you see this in everything he says and does. david, in terms of what s about to happen here with the mueller investigation, obviously we ve seen this news that fbi agents rated paul manafort s home, reportedly after financial information. we ve had reports about the grand jury subpoenas that have the button out not just from congress but federal prosecutors offices for flynn and manafort. these are people around trump who would conceivably be in a position to be able to be witnesses if they were flipped on anything untoward that might have happened with russia during the campaign, the kind of pressure that s coming down from this team that mueller s put together with all these financial experts will be looking not for matters of honor and whether or not somebody s savory businessman, but they ll be looking for crimes. that s right. short of a pardon, is there a way the president should be preparing for that that anybody should be preparing for that kind of scrutiny? as you pointed out he hasn t picked exactly the folks you would expect his lawyers to represent these things. mueller s team is not heavy on counterintelligence. it s very heavy on financial fraud, on money lauraing, those are the areas i m sure donald is highly vulnerable. he s had several transactions with russian oligarchs that make no business sense whatsoever, they only make sense if they re part of fraudulent transactions. there have been numerous examples of people who got mortgages with no underwriting because trump told various bankers to do so. the story of the clerk who misfiled in manhattan, we had the mystery of the missing manhattan sewage that was crucial to his efforts that failed later to develop the west side yards. i m sure mueller s people are going to discover lots of problems with records being n nonsense nonsensical. they have been persuaded to act improperly. it s not different with what the russians do as it was clear they were trying to do when they met with donald trump jr. last year. in terms of the president s legal representation, i am very struck by, as you were describing, the expertise of his team and the type of folks he s brought on and the kind of work they ve done in the past, especially the contrast with the type of financial and tax experts who mueller has on his side of the ledger. if you were advising the president in terms of how to put together effective legal representation given what you know about his finances, what kind of legal representation should he have? he needs to be lining up criminal defense lawyers whose background is in successfully representing people who ve been gone after by the s.e.c., by preet bharara and others. frankly, the best advice he can probably get is if you haven t lost records, lose them because those records will come back to haunt you. records leave fingerprints elsewhere. the financial enforcement group we have which is essentially irs people, they are good at finding a particular transaction, connectsing the dots on things, and mueller that see team and the resources to go and pursue these things and if they can turn a handful of people, especially if those people are smart enough to have kept something to protect themselves if it went badly, they will make a case. david k. johnston, 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everyone will face ruin. that was the threat, the weirdly-worded always over-the-top threat. but that headline was not from today. it was not from this week. it was from this time last year, this time last year north korea was threatening to shoot missiles at guam. it s a very bad thing, but if you have been hearing this week that the reason our president is issuing these threats now to start a nuclear war with north korea, the reason the threats are so scary and the brinksman ship is so insane this week, if you ve been hearing that that reason is because of the north koreans coughing a new red line and threat to think shoot missiles at guam it s undoubtedly a bad thing that they re making these threats, but it s not new. they threaten to shoot missiles at guam all the time. today s warnings from north korea are the latest in a series of provocative threats which have forced the u.s. and south korea to plan for possible military retaliation. the north koreans claim they put their long range missiles on high alert aimed at american targets in guam, hawaii, and the u.s. mainland. that was not from this week. that was not from this year. that was not from last year. that was march 2013, another time when north korea was threatening guam and in that case they were not just threatening guam but hawaii and the mainland as well. it s really bad that north korea s threatening guam. guam is u.s. soil. it s really bad that they re mounting those threats but they do it a lot. what s different this week in terms of it feeling like we re on the brink of war like never before, what s different is not that north korea is doing something they ve never done before. it s now how threatening their behavior s. their threats obviously have to be taken seriously, they have been in the past, but we haven t had weeks like this. what is truly unprecedented is the behavior of the american government, not north korean government. president trump threat understaened war, and then he announced he ll be speaking with the chinese president tonight and then i kid you not, he said, quote, hopefully it will all work out with north korea. and then he proceeded to threaten north korea again. what he happened this week, this strange netherworld of threats and over-the-top alit rative comments from the president about nuclear war is not because of something definitively new. by a washington post article that described one confidential defense intelligence agency report, a report that s not been publicly released. it s a report that supposedly concluded that north korea has miniatureized a nuclear weapon and can fit one on a missile. they have been exactly wrong about this exact thing before, and no other intelligence agencies still now, all these days into this crazy period we re in right now, no other u.s. intelligence agencies have come out and made their own case publicly that supports those same conclusions. what does explain the president spending the last four days threatening a war against north korea. what explains such a change toward north korea when north korea hasn t changed at all. what explains potentially starting a war over this and threatening it every day? joining us now is joe cirincione, president of the flous ploughshares fund. mr. cirincione, i know from an inside source that i m screwing up your vacation which makes me particularly grateful that you are here tonight and i m sorry to your family. thank you very much, rachel. i m in cape cod. i he or she wish you a tan and a blue fish to make up for all of this. done. joe, i feel a little bit alone in the wilderness on this one. is it true that there is nothing substantively new from north korea? obviously they re a military and nuclear threat. they ve been advancing over the years. they had another missile test a couple weeks ago. is it true there s really nothing new that led to this week of this incredible brinksmanship we re seeing? not this week. you re right. they have achieved the capability to launch a ballistic missile at the united states. they may have the ability to actually a nuclear war head on there. they don t know if it s reliable yet, but the last sufficiently test happened two weeks ago. you didn t see aftthis reaction. what we have is a d.i.a. intelligence assessment leaked to the washington post. i don t hear the trump administration complaining about this leak. it may be correct. i personally think that it s more or less correct. but we don t know, the dicker.i should show their work. we need the other assessments that are slowly leaking out. let s see why they re holding these judgment. let s have hearings in congress, closed fund-raiser classified information, open so the rest of us can do this. remember, when we were in the buildup to the war with iraq, there were also these intelligence statement. it s when they made an unclassified version public that some of us doubted it. maybe we learned our lesson. it s time for us to take a closer look at this particular assessment. joe, the sort of common windows about the structure of how these decisions are being made within this administration in this white house is that while the president might be unpredictable and might be sort of freelancing on these and issues saying things that come to mind for whatever reason, there are adults on national security matters, h.r. mcmaster, secretary mattis at the department of defense. there are adults there, experienced national security professionals who will make sure the right processes were followed if we were to make a major change in our stance toward that country. is there any indication that those adults in the administration are doing anything like that? are you seeing any signs that there s going to be an effort to make a case to the public for what is driving this radical change from the president? i was very disturbed by the press conference today to see the president trot out his secretary of secretary of state, his national security adviser as props to validate his statement. he made even more wild statements today, that there was a military option with venezuela. what is he talking about? i don t see any evidence that the real experts, the people who actually know what they re doing have control over this situation. they are being dragged behind by the president who seems to make it up on the fly. when he says i m not going to talk about that, we don t talk about that, what he means is i don t know what i m talking about. i just thought this up a minute ago. these words are coming out of my mouth and i ll leave it to my staff to adjust or explain what i m saying. this is troubling enough when it comes to things like venezuela, when it comes to what could be the largest war we ve seen on this planet since world war ii and possibly a nuclear exchange, this is downright dangerous. this is not normal. this is bizarre. we are witnessing the destruction of american grand strategy before our eyes. we re witnessing the collapse of american credibility. i don t think the adults have control over this situation. joe cirincione, president of the ploughshares fund. thank you. i appreciate you being here tonight, joechlt back to your vacation with you right now. thank you, rachel. we have much more to come tonight. stay with us. mail it in. learn about you and the people and places that led to you. go explore your roots. take a walk through the past. meet new relatives and see how a place and its people are all a part of you. ancestrydna. save 30% through august 15th at ancestrydna.com. finding the best hotel price is whoooo. now a safe bet. because tripadvisor searches. .over 200 booking sites - so you save up to 30% on the. .hotelock it in. tripadvisor. if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn s, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. if other treatments haven t worked well enough, ask your doctor about entyvio, 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venezuela. this is our neighbor. this is you know, we re all over the world, and we have troops all over the world in places that are very, very far away. venezuela is not very far away, and the people are suffering, and they re dying. we have many options for venezuela, including a possible military option if necessary. that would be a u.s.-led military operation? we don t talk about it, but a military operation and military option is certainly something that we could pursue. hear that, southern command? hear that? hey, marine corps, ready to invade venezuela? ready to dust off those plans because the president at his golf course tonight, apparently off the top of his head, announced that was what was the phrase? certainly something we could pursue. reuters is reporting tonight that the pentagon has not actually received any orders from president trump on a possible military option in venezuela. a pentagon spokesman telling reuters, the pentagon has received no orders. they re referring all questions on this matter to the white house. that said, i think a lot of us would actually be grateful if people stopped asking the president questions that could conceivably be answered with the answer, yeah, we can use military force there. maybe just stop asking him questions where that could conceivably be the answer because every time somebody asks him a question like that, he thinks it sounds like a good idea. so maybe just only questions about, like, animals or his family or ties. only questions about ties from here on out. we ll be right back. happy anniversary dinnedarlin can this much love be cleaned by a little bit of dawn ultra? oh yeah one bottle has the grease cleaning power of three bottles of this other liquid. a drop of dawn and grease is gone. 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that s our last story tonight, last story of the week. that s next. stay with us. refinance offers against your current mortgage - for free. are you sure you have the best rate? take 3 minutes and find out right now. because at lendingtree, when banks compete, you win. president trump is supposedly in the middle of a 17-day working vacation at one of his golf clubs in new jersey, god bless him. but today he announced a change in plans, which is, um it s a mystery. until today, this was the president s official schedule. sunday night he was supposed to travel from his new jersey golf club back to trump tower in new york city to spend the night at trump tower for the first time since he was inaugurated. home sweet home. the plan was for him to stay at trump tower, sunday night, monday night, tuesday night, until wednesday. then he was going to go back to new jersey, back to the golf club in new jersey for the rest of the week. today law enforcement in new york, the folk who s help protect the president while he s at trump tower, they got word of a change in plans.s who s help protect the president while he s at trump tower, they got word of a change in plan who s help protect the president while he s at trump tower, they got word of a change in plans who s help protect the president while he s at trump tower, they got word of a change in plans. politico.com was first to report that the president has no longer, well we don t know how this affects everything else, but he s now scheduled to fly to d.c. on monday, and that s weird for more than just the reason that he s supposed to be on vacation. the white house is undergoing renovations right now. the oval office is empty. there s no desk, no chairs. the walls of the office are all covered up in plastic. presumably part of this long vacation plan was because the president had to get out so the workers could do their thing. so why is he heading back now? the president was asked about it today, and he said this. we have a very important meeting scheduled. we re going to have a pretty big press conference on monday. we don t know what it s about. here s a really weird possibility. bloomberg has new reporting tonight, citing four sources saying that, quote, some white house and republican officials are exploring the idea of putting democratic senator joe manchin in charge of the energy department. current secretary of energy is former texas governor rick, oops, perry. he s apparently among the candidates to replace john kelly at the department of homeland security. they re citing three people familiar with the deliberations. now, the homeland security job is open because john kelly became the president s new chief of staff. so maybe what s happening on monday is they re announcing the start of musical chairs? senator manchin leaves the senate to go take rick perry s job. rick perry leaves his job to go take john kelly s old job. but then who would take senator manchin s old job, the senate seat from west virginia? well, the person who would get to pick joe manchin s replacement in the senate is that state s governor, jim justice who, remember, just switched parties and is now a republican. presumably newly minted republican jim justice would put a republican in that senate seat that up till now has been held by democrat joe manchin. that would matter because it would put the president and the republicans one vote closer to getting key legislation through like, say, killing health care. so manchin of course is a conservative democrat. he s facing a tough re-election battle in 2018. tonight his office is saying he has not had any recent
do, we have a customer service hot line that we turned into a nonemergency call center, and we ve asked the residents if they need to be rescued and it s not an emergency, or if they think they might need to be rescued, that they call that 311. most of the people unless they get hit later or are near the river. w we are prioritizing those, the residents that can get out of their homes, like i said, we re prioritizing them. and also we they do know that we will wait until daybreak. because of the standing water, so many of the streets and the typically shelter in beaumont. we have three shelters open, they will not at capacity until they started to get at capacity, we ll look at opening another shelter. a shelter, you don t just put up there and ask people to come. you have to have supplies, cots, blankets, and someone that knows how to run it. and the red cross, because of all the devastation in texas is very, very limited resources for them, too. so i think that would be our biggest issue, the resources that we need to put into the new the secondary shelter that we re setting up. and then someone to actually run it. we partner with the red cross in helping, but we don t actually run shelters. but we will partner with resources. that s probably the biggest challenge right now. i ve been the mayor for ten years, and i ve never seen this many people that needed shelter. well, we hope you re able to open up that other shelter. thank you for the time we have already opened it. i m sorry, i didn t mean to interrupt you. i m having a hard time hearing. we have already opened it. we just don t have all the resources we need to complete it. but we will not no one has been turned away, no one. that is certainly good news. mayor, i hope to speak to you tomorrow night, as well. i wish you and the people there the best. as we mentioned, the military has ramped up rescue operations. two u.s. navy war shiships are g deployed to the area, along with 690 marines. medical, communications, other support teams, are already in place or are on their way. cnn s martin savidge has been out and airborne with the navy rescuers over east texas, capturing remarkable images. so martin, you re still on the chopper, returning to base. tell us what you ve been seeing up there. [ indiscernible ]martin, we re hearing you. we re going to go next to beaumont and cnn s drew griffin, who has been having quite a remarkable day, as well. drew, you ve been on the ground all day. talk about what you ve been seeing there. reporter: it s a violent night, and to add on to what the mayor was speaking out, jefferson county is a series of islands, anderson. so you have these people rescued, they re put on an island. as water continues to rise, that island gets smaller, and those people need to be rescued off of that island to another island, to another island. that s where you have that day after day after day of rescue. and the water is still rising in this county. we just heard about a levy breach that s flooding another subdivision just west of here. it can happen in a split second. that s what we found out this morning. we re setting up for a live shot, when we heard a noise and we found this guy in really dire straits. take a look. look at this. get out, dude! you ve got a power cord? you got a rope? hold on, i m getting you a rope. don t go backwards. you all right? no, ma am, we got a car in the ditch. we just pulled somebody out. lord have mercy. are you all right now, buddy? yeah. take your breath. we re going to get you off of this bank. we re going to get you off of this bank. reporter: 66-year-old jerry summ summeral, he was out hooking for food and got in trouble. this intersection was flooded just about an hour ago. in fact, the police are over there trying to deal with flooded cars that were just left here. but the water continues to move throughout the county. so it drains here, it has to go somewhere else. people are not used to these areas being flooded and they re getting in trouble. right now, this emergency is not only continuing for people who need to be evacuated, but for all the people who have been cooked up for days, find themselves getting in trouble just like that fellow. drew, that s one of the deceptive things. you can t tell how deep this water is, unless there s a submerged car that you just see the top of it. even in the areas we re if right now, if we just pan over here, you have no sense of how deep this water is. and it just goes on as far as the eye can see. i m told, you know, further down there, it gets up to about the waist. here it s pretty shallow. drew, i assume that s what happened to that man who you helped rescue. he had no idea that the water he was driving into was going to be so deep. reporter: he thought he was driving onto a road. he had no idea that was an actual drainage ditch. it was a ditch he was driving into. he thought he was crossing a parking lot, crossing a road covered with water. and he was gone, it s floating. just after we pulled him out, his truck, his four-wheel drive truck, sank. it happens that quick. people do not recognize the difference between standing water that s over a road, standing water that is actually a raging river as a drainage ditch. it s happening across southeast texas right now. the images on your screen are from orange, texas, the first images i m seeing from that area. again, you get a sense of how much water there is on the ground. drew, i appreciate that. that s near the border of texas and louisiana. we should point out. i want to get some perspective from cnn contributor russel honore, who headed up the hurricane katrina effort. and joining us is john connors, member of team rubrubicon, an organization that brings together volunteers nor moments hike this. general, what s your assessment in terms of rescue operations and the flooding? well, the problem has gotten bigger. i mean, we have search and rescue missions ongoing. this is the hard part, after we pick people up with helicopters and using the emergency signals to find people, once this water goes down, anderson, every house has to be checked. and that cannot be done by civilian volunteers. without these volunteers, we would be in a mess, because the military has been slow to scale up. we should have navy ships to follow hurricanes in. we learned that in katrina and rita. yet, one of the biggest hurricanes predicted as of last thursday didn t have navy ships following it. we have to get this fixed, because we re at the beginning of hurricane season. that being said, the shelters look great. everybody is getting along as far as the government agencies. we don t have the bickering and the fighting. and the volunteer efforts are incredible. yes. but i was here today with a boat. we came on this very road to go search. nobody to talk to. no communications systems. we need to tie that together with a disruptive technology, and allow the police and fire to talk to civilians that are coming into the region and say go here. we need you over here. this is your mission. when you get here, link up. and then communicate with them. john, you guys are veterans. what are you seeing on the ground? we re veterans, we pair our skills with first responders. so we re trained to respond to chaos. we re ready to go. so our folks got on the ground monday. we ve been doing boat operations since monday. we ll continue to do those until the community doesn t need it. you re focused on long-term. we expect we ll be here for a few months. what we generally do is wait for the waters to recede, so it s safe for the volunteers to come in and then start working on long-term operations. that s the thing, general. obviously, there s the adrenaline now for folks that are here, that gets you through for a couple of days. but then there s the grim reality of recovery operations and rebuilding. and there are things the volunteers can t do. the big mission for volunteers is to go to houses. last year in baton rouge, katri katrina, for years after the hurricane, volunteer groups came from all over the world. you see that over there, anderson in every one of those catch basins have to be cleaned before the next storm. every drain, every culvert between here and the gulf has to be cleaned. if it took 40 inches this time, what the impact the flood has had on the drains that s one of the things, there s tension on storms when they happen and the media aftermath. a lot of people, once the water dissipates, they go, it s over. but it s not. exactly. and team rubicon is still working on houses in new york and new jersey that were wrecked during sandy. so everyone else forgets about it, but we ll stay there with the community. what do you see in terms of organization? what our teams have been seeing is the armada of the community that has stepped up to help each other. and to see everyone working side by side with the government agencies is encouraging. john, team rubicon exists without government funding. teamrubiconusa.org. take a look at these live pictures again. what area is this now? this is orange, texas. and it just gives you a sense of i mean, this is not over. i know a lot of folks saw houston today, they saw the rain stop and they thought, well, the worst is over. and that may be the case for some neighborhoods here in houston. but check out what s happening here in orange, texas. you get a sense of just how deep those waters are. when we come back, what began as a life saving resuscitation has now turned into something of a mystery. no one seems to know where this survivor still is. she apparently still needs medical attention. and we ll hear from some of the survivors still making their way to safety with the help of the army of volunteers. we ll be right back from houston and all along the region. knowing where you stand. it s never been easier. except when it comes to your retirement plan. but at fidelity, we re making retirement planning clearer. and it all starts with getting your fidelity retirement score. in 60 seconds, you ll know where you stand. and together, we ll help you make decisions for your plan. to keep you on track. time to think of your future it s your retirement. know where you stand. on your acceptance. through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald s helps more people go to college. it s part of our commitment to being america s best first job. the lincoln summer invitation is on. now get our best offers of the season. on the agile mkc. and the versatile midsize lincoln mkx. or go where summer takes you in the exhilarating mkz. hurry in it s the final days of the lincoln summer invitation sales event. ending september 5th. right now, get zero percent apr plus 1,000 dollars summer savings on the lincoln mkx, mkc and mkz. welcome back. we re here in houston. i want to give you a sense of what s happening behind me. this is the texas state maritime unit, division, excuse me. they were supposed to be stopped for the night. someone just came up to them and said their grand mother in a house and needs a rescuing. so they re actually mounting up again. they re going to take some of their boats out. they stopped because it s getting dark and they ll resume tomorrow. but they look like they re going to go out and try to find that person. you can see another boat just coming in, if we pan over here a little bit. i don t know if they re bringing somebody out or just a boat returning after a day of rescues. that looks like a group of volunteers. we ve seen so many rescues just from this area today. more than 600 people we were told were brought out over the course of the day. again, some of these folks are just volunteers. they had a boat. they are not even people who necessarily live in this neighborhood. so we ll continue to follow what s going on here. we ll bring you any updates. we ll be seeing scenes like this unfolding around the area, whether by police, troops, or the volunteers around the gulf, as well as across the country. there s a lot to talk about. i want to go to ryan nobles. we ve been seeing some of the images from orange tonight. what is happening there on the ground? reporter: orange is just on the louisiana-texas border. this area was hit hard by the second wave of harvey after it went back out to the gulf of mexico and came back inland. so a lot of the flooding here began around 1:00 this morning. you can see this area where we are now. this is a shopping market area. it s become a central locating point. and you can see in the distance there is a supermarket. we understand that supermarket is closed. but from time to time, they re getting if food and water shipments. so there is a line of people out in front of this supermarket, hoping to get stocked up on provisions so they can take care of their families. and the rescue effort has gone on here all day, starting early in the morgning. it is by and large a volunteer force. there are first responders from louisiana and texas helping to guide them. one of the problems they had earlier today, anderson, even into the night is that there are many boats willing to get people out of their homes and to dry land. but there aren t necessarily buses and cars and trucks able to take them to shelters. so that s one of the holdups in this rescue effort. but it s going to take some time before all these people can be rescued and to be put somewhere safe. and the water at this point has not started to recede. anderson? ryan nobles, appreciate it. so many people in houston and east texas are wondering about their loved ones, whether they re okay, whether they re alive. as you see behind me, these are some folks being brought out, thanking the folks who brought them out. you also have now this maritime division, which are going to start out. they ve got helmets on. it may not seem like this they have to take all the precautions they can, because some of that water is very deep. you get into areas of eddy s. it can turn quickly. many of the survivors are looking for other ones. many of the survivors are in the george r. brown convention center. the chief of police joins us. what is the latest tonight in terms of rescue operations? do you have a sense how many people were rescued today? how many people do you still believe may be in need of help? well,ky tell you that rescue operations have continued in our west area of the city. i don t have a current number. this is really day six for the houston police department. people haven t gone home. this will be the first time tonight that we re going the let some of them go home to get some rest. but every hour it passes, they re going down. it s certainly with the thousands of people that have been rescued, we re down to a matter of a hundred or so. i wonder, to the people who see the waters receding and saying houston is out of the woods, what is your message to those people tonight? well, first, the message is that we re not quite out of the woods, because we still have a water event going on, on the west side of the area. and we still haven t gone into the neighborhoods for secondary searches. my heart is still aching. all of us fear that we might find folks in these homes. you look at the destruction here of two-story homes just completely engulfed and covered by water where you can t even see the roof tops. we just fear what we might find. while we re glad we have had such few deaths, the event of biblical proportions, we re still concerned about what we might find in the days to come. and that actual toll you may not know, is my understanding, until the waters recede and until you can do those secondary searches. correct. and so that and secondary searches, our first responders, it s still very risky to go back into those neighborhoods where power lines are down and gas mains and a lot of debris, a lot of things that they have to deal with. and so we re thankful that there are additional teams heading towards our area of operation here. and those strike teams will help us complete the secondary searches. chief, i wish you the best and all of your officers. i appreciate it. thank you so much for talking with us, chief acevedo, doing incredible work here in houston. so much need, so many people are responding. so many neighborhoods to cover. take a look at this video, this is not a bay, it s the freeway. it looks like the ocean or a bay. we ll talk to the man who took this video when we come back. ucn about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. there s water rising on their street. and that hadn t happened until this morning? until this morning. we said let me come and get you. and she was like, no, we re fine, we re just going to ride it. we don t think it s going to be a big deal. how old are they my uncle is 90, my aunt is like 83. so they saw the water coming but they thought they could ride it out? yeah. all of a sudden about half an hour ago, i get a call from my aunt. she said the water is up to the house. we need help. so i took off from the house, came over here. we borrowed one of my friend s higher trucks. the water is pretty deep. unbelievable. information, the address and the location and they just took off. are you still in communication with your aunt? yes. i m talking to her about a minute ago. how are they holding up? they re there. they re scared. it s getting to that point where it s coming. it s a matter of life or death for them and they re ready to come out. so many people who woke up today, it wasn t raining, the neighborhood hadn t flooded. then certain reservoirs started to flood and overflow. new neighborhoods that started to flood that didn t flood before. yeah. it s going like the opposite. they were fine until everything calmed down from the storm and the rain, and now this whole entire you ve been here since the early 90s. everyone seen anything like this? no. it s flooded for a day or two in certain areas. never seen like a river for the whole entire subdivision or the area. it s covered up a large amount of area. i appreciate you talking to us. i wish you the best. thanks to all the help for the coast guard. they re doing an amazing job. cnn s brian todd joins us now. you ve been out there, i ve been watching you throughout the day in houston. what are residents facing right now? what have you been seeing today? reporter: anderson, they re just trying to process this. they were taken by surprise with this wave of flooding that occurred, because it just started in this neighborhood in earnest at about 1:00 a.m. this morning overnight, after the brunt of the storm had passed. these people thought they had ridden it out without too much flooding, but that controlled release from the addick s reservoir is what brought all of these flood waters on. i m in a high water vehicle, about eight feet above ground. just huge wheels on this truck we re riding in the pack of. but you can see behind me just how deep the water is. we were on an airboat earlier today with some private rescuers, just going around doing door knocks and watching for people nagging us. but my estimation, we pulled probably 20 people out of these homes. and look at athis, anderson. it s a labyrinth of places. the only way to get out is with a vehicle like this one or an airboat. some of the people now being rescued have thought they dodged a bullet. yesterday afternoon, the sun came out. it receded a little bit. we put everything back that we had put upstairs. and then we had a little hurricane party last night until about midnight. and at 1:00 we had a foot of water. reporter: volunteers like mark and his partner joe are out looking for victims to help, especially any place with a towel or other distress signs. repo do you think about the danger out here? not really? reporter: why not? you just come and do it. i am on a boat all the time. i don t think twice. people need help, i come and help them. reporter: we talked to a lot of people when they got to safer ground. i asked them do they want to return to their neighborhoods? some of them said they wanted to stay. but others said they had to make a decision whether to return home to all of this. anderson? brian, do you have any sense of how long these rescue teams plan on staying or how they re planning for days ahead? reporter: a lot of the time, anderson, they gauge it how exhausted they are at the end of a given day. the rescue teams, all private boat operators, planned on staying. one of the guys who operated a boat said he was just completely fried by the end of the day. so these guys assess it on a day by day basis. but they wake up and they seem to want to go out. i think a lot of them are going to be here until these waters recede. there s a lot of people who appreciate what they re doing. thank you very much. when we come back, we ll hear from the man who shot this incredible video on i-10. it looks more like the open ocean. we ll be right back. welcome back. we re waiting to see what happens, we just talked to a guy, frankie aziz, who is worried about his aunt and uncle. his aunt thought they could ride out the storm in this neighborhood, but the water started to come up just this morning. they re an elderly couple. she just called him and said we need some help. so some boats have been launched by state authorities here in texas to go and get the couple out of their home. so we re waiting for them to come back. with each passing day, we re seeing more and more images that the people have taken on their own. i want to show you this image we ve looked at several times tonight. i want you to hear from the person that took this image, video taken on i-10. you would never know this is a highway. i talked to the man who took this a short time ago. listen. i think for some people the video is kind of hard to wrap your mind around. what we re seeing is the interstate under water, right many yes, sir. six, serve foven foot of water. how long did that go for, how far was that? the stretch that we drove across was about two miles. wow, two miles with water that deep on the interstate. as you got closer to the interstate, it got shallower and shallower, but where we were out in the pasture and the canals, it was seven foot or more. that s just uncredible. i appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. be safe. yes, sir, no problem. that s logan weed. the images are extraordinary. there are 28 people confirmed dead in the aftermath of hurricane harvey. 28 lives ended far too soon. joining me now are two people in the midst of that grief. they lost their dad, ruben jordan, a beloved high school football and track coach. lindsey, i m sorry for your loss and i appreciate you spending time with us. can you tell me when is the last time you spoke to your dad? i actually spoke to my dad saturday morning. i m a physician. i had gone into work saturday morning, checked on my patients and got out around noon and spoke to him. you know, he was we all kind of thought harvey had come and gone and there wasn t much going on and he was hanging at the house. he told me to be careful getting home and that was the last time i talked to him. roger, did you speak to him at all about the storm? yes, sir, i spoke to him saturday, saturday night around 8:00, 8:30. we were just conversing about the floyd mayweather and conor mcgregor fight, just having casual father-son talk, trying to place a personal bet as to who was going to win. he mentioned going out to see it at a local sports bar. that was the last i had spoken to him, as well. lindsey, tell me about your dad, what kind of a man was he? my dad was an amazing man. he has been a coach in the area for 28 years. he s been a pillar of the community. he is now prior to him retiring, he was teaching the kids of the kids that he taught when he first started. wow, that s incredible. yeah, yeah. he s taught the kids of the kids. i understand his grandchildren were the light of his life and he told you that you had done everything in his life that that he had done everything in his life that he ever wanted to do after he was able to meet your son. yeah. i have an 8-month-old, and my dad, for everyone that knows him, he s a big guy. he s a big guy and he keeps a serious face most of the time. but with my son, he was a teddy bear. i had personally never seen him like that. he has enjoyed this eight months with my son so much. roger, i know there s been a huge outpouring of support from your community. what do you want people to know about him? he was a very determined, caring, and nurturing soul. he was adamant on encouraging today s youth to be as great as they could. he s a loving individual. he taught us to carry ourselves with class and dignity and ensure each and every one that they received respect. i m just so sorry for your loss. i know those words sound so hollow, but we re thinking about you. i wish you both the best. thank you so much. thank you. appreciate it. 12 years ago tonight, all eyes were on the city of new orleans. it was the day after hurricane katrina hit. i ll speak with the mayor of new orleans next. for him and simply styled for her! plus hot deals on jeans for kids, starting at 8.99. hurry - sale ends september 4th. ostriches don t really stick vitheir heads in the sand.ve horns on their helmets. and a real john deere is actually real affordable. you learn something new everyday. the surprisingly affordable john deere e series tractors. moments. which makes their effort and that of the volunteers worth taking note of today. randi kaye reports. reporter: the air national guard if the midst of a dramatic rescue. on the other end of that rope line is a newborn baby. this other child from the same family was also rescued. it went on and on until the whole family was safely inside the chopper. they were let out on dryer land. strangers came together to rescue an elderly man trapped in his car. he was being swept away by floo quickly formed a human chain, stretching from dry land to the man s car. the car appeared to be sinking fast and rescuers yelled to those closest to the man to bust the window. they finally got the door open and the man out. he was taken to a local hospital and reunited with his son. a human chain would also help save the life of annie smith and her soon-to-be-born baby. she was 9 months pregnant, going into labor, and trapped in her houston apartment. she and her husband, both doctors, had just moved to houston last month and had never experienced a hurricane. they began to prepare for a home birth, boiling water and sterilizing equipment. then, they sent out an alert in their apartment complex, calling for an ob/gyn. strangers, some with medical backgrounds, came running. one quick-thinking neighbor stopped a dump truck outside. neighbors formed a line, holding hands, so annie could safely walk to the dump truck, which would take her to the hospital. one neighbor posted this video on instagram, writing, my incredible neighbors made a human chain to help the woman and her husband to the truck. moments like these are incredibly precious and remind me of all the good in the world. the couple s daughter was born hours later, in a real delivery room. there were countless rescues by boat, too. and when a boat wasn t handy, there was a cowboy on horseback. this is what we do. we help livestock. this man and his son set out to rescue horses, posting this video on facebook. you can come out now, son. go ahead and careful with him. reporter: he later posted, we were able to swim in and save four of these horses today. one of the greatest feelings in the world is having my best partner by my side. my 17-year-old son. in a storm this bad, every rescue counts. randi kaye, cnn, new york. incredible images. for some people, right now, it might be hard to have hope here in houston or in beaumont or in port arthur, tonight, which is seeing a lot, a lot of water on the ground. a lot of that city, port arthur, submerged. 12 years ago yesterday, hurricane katrina made landfall. and i wanted to talk to the mayor of the great city of new orleans, mitch landrieu, who joins me now. mayor landrieu, you ve helped bring new orleans back from the brink. you ve helped make new orleans the extraordinary city it is now. as you see what s happening here in houston, elsewhere in louisiana, and in beaumont and port arthur, what goes through your mind tonight? it s really unbelievable. those images, they re just hard to watch, actually. you interviewed me 12 years ago, and it was just incredible to watch these individuals go through what we went through. for those of us that were in the water, helping people out, you know, you saw the most unbelievable tragedies that you can imagine. yet at the same time, miraculous, you saw people who would just walk across the street from other people normally, helping each other out. and it just lifted your spirit about our capacity to help each other in the darkest hours. and so even though it s hard to watch, you re witnessing this in realtime, how heuman beings can really rise above all the differences that we have and reach down and lift each other up. and it s just incredible. painful, but incredible. and it is, i mean, rebuilding is possible. and for new orleans, it took, i mean, obviously, a lot of help from the federal government. a lot of help from the state. but also, incredible volunteer efforts by churches, by veterans, by school kids, by college students. just people coming for years and years and years. well, i would just say a couple of things to the people of houston and port arthur and beaumont and lake charles. i know it s hard and you re frustrated and you feel like you lost everything. but there s going to be light out at the end of the tunnel. you can actually see it happening as you spaeak. the truth of the matter is, new orleans could have never come back on its own. we relied on the great help of the federal government, but the fate-based group, kids from all over america came and helped lift us back up. and essentially, that s where you get the great hope for our country. you know we re going to survive because of what we re actually seeing on the ground right now, as tragic as it is. and it s going to be okay. and the one lesson that we learned that really transcended everything else is that in our darkest hour, we re all in the same boat. we re all the same, and it s an amazing thing to be a part of. it hurts, but at the end of it, there s a rainbow and it s going to get better. what is i mean, as you see the rescue efforts that have been underway here, what is the key? what is the next step for houston, for boat arthur, for all communities that are so badly affected? there are a couple things going on right now that are unbelievable. 28 usar teams have been dispatched by fema. that s the largest in the history of the country. the governor actually created a dual commandership, so that north com now, military assets are helping, so there s a rescue effort going on, that you can see. there s also a lot of folks that are in shelters. i think there are 146 shelters that are open, upwards of 22,000 people. the last statistic i heard was that 100,000 homes were hurt. so what s got to happen is people have got the get back to normal as quickly as possible, but they may not be able to go as quickly as they want. so those shelters have to stay in front of the storm. unfortunately, there are a lot of electrical outages. if they can get electricity back, get that water down and start to pick up that debris, everybody will start to lift everybody else up. one of the keys for us was getting the schools back open as quickly as possible and trying to help people clean out their homes. and what happens is, you create a virtuous cycle. but here s the thing, the cameras are going to leave and the hard work is going to just be starting. and you have to remember, put one foot in front of the next, love your neighbor and help each other up. at the end of the day, it s going to get better, but it s is not going to be easy. everybody knows that. but houston is strong, texas is strong, and the rest of the world will be there like they were for us. no doubt about it. that s the thing. houston was a city that opened its arms to a lot of folks from new orleans, who got on buses and ended up here. i tell you, anderson, it was unbelievable. i saw a story today about mayor bill white who had to get evacuated. he was the mayor at the time who opened up the entire city for us with the county judges and he had to get rescued this week. it was heartbreaking for me to watch him walking out of that water. he was a giant when the recovery happened. and all of the people of houston, they received the people from new orleans, opened up their schools to us, opened up their homes. we want to do the same thing for houston if the need arises. we re hosting the lsbyu game this weekend and we ll do anything we can to help. right now it s hard. you ve got to let the teams do their work. let all the experts and the shelters work with the individuals that are there, help them work through their pain. but you can imagine how scared everybody is who think they lost everything, and they can t see tomorrow. and but at the end of the day, though, they ll be able to stand back up. and i know the whole world and the country is going to help. i know you just marked, obviously, the 12th anniversary, more than 1,800 people lost their lives in katrina. there s a beautiful memorial to them in new orleans. my thoughts were with the great people of new orleans yesterday on that terrible anniversary. i appreciate, mayor, you being with us tonight. well, thank you so much, anderson. thank you for all the work y all are doing. take care. we ll see you soon. we re going to take a short break. we ll have more from houston. actually, sorry, we re actually going to go to chris cuomo, who oh, sorry, ryan nobles is standing by in orange, texas. let s check with ryan. ryan? it s okay, you can call me chris cuomo. that s an honor to be called chris cuomo, anderson. we are here in orange, texas, right on the texas/louisiana border. and the rescue effort here is ongoing. many of these communities, water is as much as 4 feet up in some of these houses. and they really weren t expecting it. this is not a town that traditionally sees a lot of flooding. so we were in one neighborhood that s about a mile down the road from where we are right now. and i talked to a grandfather who said that the water started seeping in, at around 1:00 this morning, and he just did not expect it. he got his family up, he had several of his grandkids that were staying with him in the house. and they started the process of trying to evacuate. he had a jet ski, but that wasn t enough to get everybody out. but that wasn t much longer into the day that the cajun navy came through and there were boat after boat, going through these neighborhoods and getting people to safe. that continues tonight. there is a shopping center that s here behind me, that the market itself is actually closed right now, but they ve been getting in supplies of provisions, water, and food. they ve actually been giving it out free to people that can get here. and there s been a steady stream of trucks, trucks pulling boats. we ve seen national guard come through, with the high-water trucks, trying to get people into safe areas. the one concern that we ve found is that they can get people out of their homes, they can get them to dry land, but getting them to shelters has been a bit of a problem, because they haven t had enough buses and cars to get these folks to. so this is just the beginning of what is going to be a long recovery for the folks here in orange, texas. anderson, back to you. ryan nobles, you stay safe out there. i just want to show you, one boat has come back, but we re still waiting for that boat. a young man, franky aziz came earlier, told some of the rescuers who had stopped for the night that his aunt had just called him, heshe s elderly, wi his uncle in his 90s as well, saying that the water has risen faster and much higher than they anticipated in their home just today and they need help.