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to believe that those people who've been drafted into the army are being sent off to defend the motherland. but not everyone here believes that. man speaking. the voice belongs to mikhail. 500 miles from moscow, he told the local military draft office he wasn't going to fight because there was no threat to russia. mikhail insists that if russia truly needed defending, he would rush to volunteer. he considers himself a patriot, but he doesn't believe in this war. he won't fight ukraine. translation: when mobilisation was being discussed i agreed - with my family that if such a situation arose, i would refuse, even if they sent me to prison. if i had to, i would choose prison. the state will consider me a criminal if i don't go to fight in this war.
but i won't be a criminal from the point of view of humanity or myself. after his refusal to fight, mikhail has received some abuse on russian social media. but what is interesting is that he's had plenty of support, too, for his decision to take a moral stand. steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. the first wild bison for thousands of years has been born in the uk. three bison were released back injuly as part of a rewilding project in kent — but, unknown to the rangers, one of them had a secret passenger on board. jonah fisher has been to see the new arrival. oh, she's she's like a ray of sunshine on a dark, cloudy day. it's thousands of years since a bison was born in the wild in britain. so this is quite a moment
mikhail insists that if russia truly needed defending, he would rush to volunteer. he considers himself a patriot, but he doesn't believe in this war. he won't fight ukraine. translation: when mobilisation was being discussed, i agreed - with my family that if such a situation arose i would refuse, even if they sent me to prison. if i had to, i would choose prison. the state will consider me a criminal if i don't go to fight in this war. but i won't be a criminal from the point of view of humanity or myself. after his refusal to fight, mikhail has received some abuse on russian social media. but what is interesting is that he's had plenty of support, too, for his decision to take
acceptable, peacefully minded country. with quite a sufficient democratic political leadership. at least at the federal level. >> mikhail, pleasure to have you on. >> translator: thank you. thank you. next on "gps," i will give you a sneak preview of my latest documentary on the huge controversies broiling in the supreme court of the united states. i get into the leaks, the overturning of precedent, politics, the personalities, the history. that preview in just a moment. >> tech: don't wait. schedule today. ♪ pop rock music ♪ >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
it's the big question in global affairs today. what in the world is vladamir putin thinking? it may not be answerable by anybody except the russian president himself. but i find it helpful to talk to people who know putin, who worked with him. my next guest fits that bill. mikhail was a russian oligarch, owner of a russian oil and gas company, and at one time, the richest man in russia. but then he got on putin's bad side by promoting reforms in russia and spent a decade in prison for fraud and tax evasion. charges he says were politically motivated. he's now one of putin's biggest critics and lives in excite in the uk. his new book is "the russian conundrum." mikhail, welcome. so let me ask you first the question i think that is the most urgent and important, which is putin's threat to use nuclear
vladamir putin at all? >> translator: i think that dialogue is necessary with anyone. even if it's against them after they have taken hostages. nevertheless, we have to realize for any gangster a dialogue with this gangster in a situation where the gangster feels he has the upper hand is demonstrating your weakness. and if you demonstrate your weakness over and over again trying to negotiate something with this gangster, this provokes this gangster to further attack, to further steps. because they think that they're strong when they're, in fact, weak. i think this is the problem of some western leaders trying to negotiate with putin and don't take it into account. >> stay with us. we'll be back with more of my interview with mikhail.
RUSSIA, September 29 - Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin spoke by telephone with his counterpart from Belarus, Roman Golovchenko. The prime ministers discussed
mobilisation here since world war ii, and apprehension at what lies ahead. "daddy," cries a child as another group departs. but there was anger, too, outside a recruitment office. the protester says world war ii was a real war, but this one, it's just politics. protesting in russia can be dangerous. mikhail was detained at an anti—mobilisation protest in moscow. he says that, down at the station, police tried to give him call—up papers. translation: when i refused to take the call-up papers, - an official said, "suit yourself, but you'll be sent to prison for ten years." she said it was against the law to refuse the draft. the public is being told
called up by the kremlin, they set off for ukraine. russian reservists now part of vladimir putin's war. there were scenes like these across russia. a sense of shock at the first mobilisation here since world war ii, and apprehension at what lies ahead. child cries. "daddy," cries a child, as another group departs. but there was anger, too, outside a recruitment office. the protester says, world war ii was a real war, but this one is just politics. protesting in russia can be dangerous. mikhail was detained at an anti—mobilisation protest in moscow. he says that down at the station, police tried to give him call—up papers.
rosenberg reports from moscow. called up by the kremlin, they set off for ukraine. russian reservists now part of vladimir putin's war. there were scenes like these across russia. a sense of shock at the first mobilisation here since world war ii, and apprehension at what lies ahead. child cries. "daddy," cries a child, as another group departs. but there was anger, too, outside a recruitment office. the protester says, world war ii was a real war, but this one is just politics. protesting in russia can be dangerous. mikhail was detained at an anti—mobilisation protest in moscow. he says that down at