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Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump

respond to what was being said. they were read and put in a pocket. put aside. apparently, just since david pecker has taken the stand, he's doing that again. how usual is that for a client? does it send a particular message to the jury? >> i think it's fairly usual that you'll see that. we don't know the extent to which he's doing it, how dramatic he's being, but it's normal for the defendant to lean over and whisper into the ear of their attorney so they'll have context about what may be being alleged. it also does kind of balance this narrative that donald trump is falling asleep, not paying attention. there's a lot that goes into the theatrics of it and if you're the lawyer, you want to stay away from this as much possible

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Trump on Trial New York v. Donald Trump

to be very, very much involved in his own defense, but how difficult can that be for any lawyer? >> well, it's difficult. it's also going to be difficult if their defense is going to be he was hands off, he didn't really know. michael cohen went off on his own. because he's even showing the jury, like i'm even, you know, directing my attorneys what to say. now, these are very competent attorneys and they know how to do a cross-examination, but him being his own chief of staff can hurt him as a defense in this case because that means he knew everything that was going on. he was in charge. he was the one who directed cohen to do exactly what cohen did and david pecker. so that could be turned on its head against him. >> and to that point, he's been trying to push this narrative of late in the public space. i just paid my attorney for attorney's fees. i didn't get involved in that. but what she just said is critically important because number one, in terms of what

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The Saturday Show with Jonathan Capehart

during the opening statement? >> on the da said if i will be interested in how they set up this case for the jury. is it a case about election interference versus a hush money case. they that it will be the case about election interference and this will be the first opportunity to present to the jury the proper frame to think about this case. we should also expect them to give a narrative of what the evidence will show during the case. that should be informative for us because a lot of this is not yet fully known for those of us on the outside looking in. trumps lawyers will have an opportunity to preview defenses. they haven't in the government's entire case. i expect a lot of it will be about michael cohen, stormy daniels and a lack of credibility. >> let me stick with you one quick second. you said we will see the narrative for the first time. the opening statement, is that when we will hear maybe new evidence, things we haven't heard before? >> it is very possible. there is a reason lawyers call

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The Saturday Show with Jonathan Capehart

them opening statements instead of opening argument. closing arguments is the right terminology because lawyers are doing what the evidence showed. an opening statement is a narrative about what the facts will show in the trial and what evidence the jury should expect to see. we should learn some new things on monday. >> catherine, what will you be watching for? >> it is a preview of the evidence. it is a table of contents for the jury. it shouldn't be very long. you don't want to bore the jury. you are not doing arguments. i am looking to see what evidence we don't know about that wasn't in the indictment, that wasn't in the statement of facts that hasn't been leaked. that's very interesting. the difference opening, first of all, in new york, the difference doesn't have to give

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Real Time With Bill Maher

you can cure this in the mind. you said therapists. >> well, i think that it's twofold so food companies are absolutely at writing. you want to physiological level, but they're also exploiting your psychological hunger's and the truth of the matter is that there's so much shame around this because people who are overweight or obese how experienced discrimination for decades now so what happens is we then turn around and we say, okay, what narrative is going to make them feel the best? >> so big food says we're going to push the antidiuretic narrative and you can be healthy at any size, which is a message that actually meant health equity. >> we should provide, equal access to health care for people at any size. but now it's don't even worry, go crazy. no food chain. >> and then neighbors, he was never well, they buy off registered dietitians to get them to say these things again, i never been a foodie, but it's not my advice, but there is a connection with the pod thing because when i smoke pot

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Real Time With Bill Maher

weeks anyway. >> and now you're all the way behind the eight ball. you'd think it's about it's in the mind. you think you can cure this in the mind. he said therapists, well, i think that it's twofold so food companies are absolutely at writing. >> you on a physiological level, but they're also exploiting your psychological hunger's& the truth of the matter is that there's so much shame around this because people who are overweight or obese have experienced discrimination for decades now. >> so what happens is we then turn around and say, okay, what narrative is going to make them feel the best? >> so big foods says we're going to push the anti diet narrative and you can be healthy at any size which is a message that actually meant health equity. we should provide equal access to health care for people at any size. but now it's don't even worry, go crazy. no food chain, theatre and then they he was never well, they buy off. registered dietitians to get them to say these things again, i never been a fruity, but

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FOX and Friends Sunday

nobody likes a phony politician, and that seems so establishment. kayleigh: it does. and they're trying to bring in small dollar donations, and they congregated the three presidents, obama, clinton and biden, they broke a record of $25 million, and then trump broke the record next weekend at mar rah rag go, $50 million. cash on hand, $192 million versus trump's $93 million, so some ground to mange for republicans. but trunk, you know, he had that $50 million fundraiser. >> kim ooh not sure money means as much as it used to, buying ads in key swing statement ises. social media drives elections more and more as we're seeing, and that's basically free. hillary clinton outraised donald trump 2 to 1 in 2016, and trump still won. i'm not saying money isn't important, but it isn't as important as it used to be. i think donald trump will close that gap regardless because enthusiasm's on his side. kayleigh: and as you know, trump is driving the narrative.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

what do they what did they think? about these charges in these various trump cases this is stuff that happens every day with larger companies and things like that. it seems to me like liberals in the country are saying donald trump's are criminal. let's find a crime dependent with, i think probably is the most serious is the classified documents one but then biden had classified documents and even pence ended up with quest's saying, oh, i found one in my house to which it makes me think they're all rather careless that's reaction to that. yeah i mean, these are people who look they're there, they don't love trump. >> they voted for nikki haley in the primary, but they're still it just shows how deeply the narrative has penetrated among republicans of all kinds that this is a witch on, that trump uniquely this is an attempt to take him down now that democrats are after him, there's a two-tier justice system. i hear this from republicans across the board.

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

hasn't message ever that he's sticking to. i'm still waiting for infrastructure week. >> but he's keeping him tethered to the subject of his legal drama. >> yeah. i think that's going to have a very negative effect and people will perceive him as someone who maybe is a criminal the question is, is this how voters will in a viewing this in november, if this is done by jill, well, i'll just say, you right now, there's been so many court cases. he has so many indictments that for the voters, a lot of it tends to be white noise. but as the case is separate out and people follow them individually, you could see these numbers start to shift as people understand this isn't about a porn star or even hush money. it's about the way he past the shuttered the big narrative that this is all sort of embroidery. it's not, he is someone who has no respect for the rule of law who thinks that there is a different sentence? standards for him. who gets away with things. a lot of his voters in his super base. would ever be able to get away with but, and so i think that is very troubling for him in near evenly divided bacteria, very, very unprintable, great

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Inside Politics With Manu Raju

the point maria reach a verdict. anything could happen that could screw it all up, frankly, for the prosecutors. but if it continues, if it continues for several weeks i think day in and day out conversation about donald trump in the courtroom as a criminal defendant, him being pulled off of the campaign trail, not able to stay on whenever his message he really hasn't message ever for that. he's sticking to you. i'm still waiting for infrastructure week but his keeping him tethered to the subject of his legal dramas. yeah. i think that's going to have a very negative effect and people will perceive him as someone who maybe is a criminal the question is, is if this, how voters will in a viewing this in november, if this is done by jill, well, i'll just say right now, there's been so many court cases. he has so many indictments that for the voters, a lot of it tends to be white noise. but as the case is separate out and people follow them individually, you could see these numbers start to shift as people understand this isn't about a porn star, even hush money it's about the way he past the shot at the big narrative that this is all sort

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