actually looked like this. he was holding hands, not with a middle aged lady but with an old bald guy who turns out is the guy that used to run the international atomic energy agency. so yeah, no. that said, if you find it convincing, we can always go to the tape. there s mahmoud ahamdinejad greeting his mother, here comes the touching, they touched, it happened. so this is embarrassing for mr. ahmadinejad and the clerics back home. maybe he was caught in the clasp of a grieving mother, could do nothing about it. but this horrible attempt by his supporters to cover up the evidence of what happened and replace that nice lady with that man, this failing so spectacularly is a good thing for the world because when people lie and makeup stuff for political reasons get caught and become an international laughing stock, photoshopping does not advance you politically and instead makes you look ridiculous. the past. like the 2012 election didn t happen. the election didn t go our way, that means we surrender principles? the plan assumes repeal of the president s health care law. something we re not giving up on. same old stuff. we re not giving up on destroying the health care system for the american people. what? we are not giving up o n destroying the health care system for the american people. we don t like this law. somehow magically maintains savings of obama care. please explain that to me. it is impossible. that doesn t make sense. recall if you will campaign 2012. $760 billion. $716 billion. funneled out of medicare by president obama, we are going to stop it. they re not restoring those. treating this fake charade like a budget. unrealistic. uncompromising. la la land fantasy. like fiction for rand than it is a budget. tonight, president obama had the audacity to suggest that washington s holy grail, a balanced budget, is not actually the holiest thing you can pursue in government. paul ryan today put forward his budget. right. and says he is challenging you to come forward with a budget that reaches balance. are you going to do that? no. my goal is not to chase a balanced budget just for the sake of balance. my goal is how do we grow the economy, put people back to work, and if we do that, we re going to be bringing in more revenue, if we controlled spending and have a smart entitlement package, then potentially what you have is balance, but it is not balance on the backs of, you know, the poor, the elderly, students who need student loans, families who have disabled kids, that s not the right way to balance our budget. the glow is off paul ryan budgets, even for republicans, including former ryan worshipper rush limbaugh. now, there are people that don t like it, even on the republican side because it has tax increases in it, some say tax increases on the rich. leaves some of obama s tax increases in it. heritage foundation has done deep analysis of this. one of their problems with the ryan budget is, and they do have problems with it, is that hefty tax increases of obama s are maintained. they re kept in it. they re not done away with. paul ryan s budget leaves in the increase in top income tax rate that president obama achieved in january, the conservative blog red state noted the ryan budget leaves in 1 trillion in tax revenue in president obama s health care reform bill, including taxes on tanning salons and high value health care plans, which provoked erick erickson to question whether house republicans should even vote for it. since paul ryan s budget keeps the obama care tax revenue stream, isn t voting for his budget a violation of the repeal pledge? and in an interview with cnbc, paul ryan could not continue to pretend his budget choices had any attachment to reality. in terms of your budget, if you don t get it this year, likelihood of getting repealed this year is very, very, very low, does it blow a hole in your ten year budget? sure it blows a hole in the budget. it calls for continued spending. what is a budget? it is our vision for how we should fix this country s fiscal problems. the president of the center on budget and policy priorities and this program s most trusted budget analyst issued a report tonight on the ryan budget saying in critical ways the budget is exceedingly vague and as a result its claim to reach balance in ten years is hard to take seriously. the budget s fiscal claims rest on massive magic asterisks. joining me, jared bernstein, senior fellow at the center on budget and priorities and robert reich, professor at the university of california berkley. joy reed, when he is in an interview with larry kudlow, who used to be the biggest paul ryan worshipper in the world, gets down to the question is what is really a budget, he is on the ropes here. absolutely. there was another part of that interview with his former bff, larry kudlow where he says we had to accept the tax increases passed in january because we re not going to be able to repeal those, but we re going to repeal obama care, even though everybody understands they re never going to repeal that. he is talking around the realities because he can t get numbers to add up unless he absorbs a lot of policy that broemd champions that he says he hates. in addition, i am waiting for paul ryan to explain why it is evenness to balance the budget in ten years? what is he going after? what did you just say, why is it necessary? what s the matter with you, why is it necessary to balance the budget, most important thing you can possibly do, isn t it? they have been saying that for years, nothing more important than balancing the budget. do businesses not run deficits? anyone that bought a house with a mortgage isn t running a balanced budget. the key to economic growth is not balancing the budget. no household would ever be able to finance a home or car or major purchase. this economy runs on debt, big, huge businesses don t run balanced budgets, they take on massive amounts of debt. they never explained that relationship to balancing the budget and the economy and haven t explained why you have to do it in ten years. there s an image of paul ryan of the serious man in republican circles and bob greenspan addressed this on the new budget and did it in a series of questions, on the question of how courageous is paul ryan. bob said is it courageous to propose tax cuts but not identify a single tax expenditure to rein in? robert reich, that seems to not be the courageous position. not only is it not courageous, but we have seen it before. this is a rerun of the romney, ryan budget. they had budget asterisks, loophole closures they didn t know, couldn t identify they were going to give to congress. the only difference is this is a more extreme budget. this is the romney ryan budget we saw last november, but it is on steroids. he wants to get rid of obama care. he wants to get rid of dodd-frank. he wants to get rid of more of the spending programs that the middle class and lower middle class and poor depend on. this it is designed for coherence or logic or even arithmetic. this is designed primarily to move the goalposts further to the right in anticipation of some sort of negotiating strategy down the road. jerod bernstein, as we know, there are two kinds of spending in our budgets, what is direct spending lpay for a litary salary or the spending we have in the tax code. we have a tremendous amount of spending in the tax code in the form of tax deductions and tax shelters, things like that. and that s the kind of spending that paul ryan doesn t seem to recognize as spending. that s right. there is over a trillion dollars of tax expenditures or spending through the tax code and programs by which for example we provide child care through direct spending for people that buy child care, then child care we buy through a child care tax credit. the function is exactly the same. one is administered through the tax code, so somehow that s protected by this ideology that you can never raise taxes. interestingly mitt romney as you mentioned without any specificity, paul ryan without any specificity, and many others on the republican side all consistently say we want to close loopholes. bob reich is right, it is not just that this is a rerun of policy that lost in the election, it is mathematically a heavier lift. i won t take you through the math, but romney had 7 points of revenue to makeup and ryan has about 15 points of revenue to makeup. it is twice as heavy lift with no more specificity than we have before. joy, there s another question bob asks in his report about the courage of paul ryan. is it courageous to target your deepest cuts on the poorest americans who vote in lower numbers and provide little in campaign contributions? exactly, while still trying to exempt current medicare recipients from cruelty of going to voucher, saying only future seniors have to try to buy a plan. what he does is absolutely cruel. there s nothing courageous about saying it is on medicaid, rather than paying doctors to reimburse for medicaid, we give it to the states. if you live in the state where the governor is conservative, they can change the eligibility rules and bounce you off medicaid and leave you with nothing. he wants to do a lot of the same things with programs for the poor, food stamps, he wants to take away the food program, if you re in a state with a governor that decides it is immoral to give you food stamps, they can change eligibility and bounce you out of food stamps. it is the cruelist budget he has come up with yet. and that s saying a lot. that s bad because it is saying the basis is cuts to the poor. are you kind of putting a stick in the president s ear, you had lunch with him. right. did you tell him at lunch you would call for repeal of obama care. he knows the budget we were coming up with. i gave him more or less the kind of budget we were going to come up with. let me put it this way, ask a person watching the show in business. do you start with your last offer first in a negotiation? no, of course not. robert reich, this is his first offer in the negotiation? well, not only is it first offer in the negotiation, i think it also attempts to establish a framework for what s the objective. paul ryan is now in position to say we have a plan. it may be incoherent, may not add up, but we have a plan for balancing the budget in ten years. democrats, what s your plan for balancing the budget? it is now incumbent on the president and democrats and the president started, needs to keep hammering this home, to say balancing the budget is not necessarily good. in fact, in an economy like today, it is bad to balance the budget. that s not an appropriate public goal. what we should be worrying about instead are jobs and wages, widening equality. what we need is growth. if we don t get that, all of this budget balancing nonsense is irrelevant. jared, there s some dispute, the ryan team seems to be back pedaling on the question of are the obama health care taxes really in their budget or not? they re definitely there when you look at the revenue assumptions that they have, they seem to be claiming that no, no, i think we would get rid of tanning salon tax also. i actually believe them on that. i believe that in repealing obama care, they re also not taking credit for the revenue from the obama care taxes, and let me get back to a point i made earlier. you see, they have to raise something like $7 trillion in revenue to offset their tax cuts. they can t do that. mathematically, it is impossible. if mitt romney couldn t make the math work, this math is twice as hard. so really interestingly this is a plan to increase the budget deficit because they ll never offset those tax cuts. thank you all for joining me tonight. thank you. coming up, connecticut came to washington today to plead the case for gun safety. i ll be joined by one of the sandy hook elementary school parents who bicycles from newtown, connecticut to washington, d.c. in the rewrite, the rise and fall of jack johnson, the first african-american heavy weight boxing champion, 100 years after he was convicted of racially motivated charges by an all white jury, an unlikely coalition in congress is asking president obama to pardon jack johnson. and later, judging by their list of speakers, there s nothing at all serious about the conservative political action conference. we will explain why comedians like sarah palin and donald trump get more speaking time in washington than marco rubio and paul ryan. that s coming up. you know my heart burns for you. i m up next, but now i m singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn t for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. oh what a relief it is! he opened up jake s very private world. at first, jake s family thought they saved ziggy, but his connection with jake has been a lifesaver. for a love this strong, his family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. .to help keep ziggy s body as strong as a love that reaches further than anyone s words. iams. keep love strong. since december 14th when 20 children and six women were massacred at sandy hook in newtown, connecticut, more than 2605 people have been killed with a gun in the united states. but that body count has not yet been enough to convince congress to act on gun safety. one man from newtown did his part today to push congress. he ll join me next. 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yes. she had vicki soto as a third great teacher when her regular third great teacher went on maternity leave. it was vicki s first teaching job, brand new teacher, wonderful teacher. my daughter became very close with her. and what is it like today in newtown, connecticut in the aftermath of this tragedy. we have been hearing about the connecticut effect in washington, some people saying maybe we just have to wait for the connecticut effect to fade and this issue can go away. others saying the connecticut effect is driving this issue. what is the connecticut effect in newtown tonight? i think we ve seen the connecticut effect. it is clearly growing. we had a tremendous rally in newtown when we left saturday morning, tremendous enthusiasm. we then essentially our ride is a rolling rally. in each of the towns that we have visited, we have received tremendous support. we received support from people in pickup trucks driving by, rolling down the windows to say thanks for what you re doing. as we rode into town today, we went over a highway, and there were trucks below blasting their horns in support. if the connecticut effect is fading away, then it s hard to imagine what that is because i think it is clearly growing and clearly as we talk to americans, it s pretty clear that america is with us. gabrielle giffords tweeted if your legs get tired, remember we re in this together, keep pedaling, best wishes to people on the newtown ride against gun violence. one of the parents of one of the children killed was one of your riders. yes. was it a harder ride for that parent than for anyone else on that trip? chris mcdonald was one of our honorary team 26 members. chris is a close friend. chris and i have talked a lot, talk to him every night. i think it was hard for him to turn around after 26 miles because i know he wanted to continue with us. what he said to me and told me to tell the guys is as you re riding, if you get tired, know that grace is on your wheel, and she was. she was on her wheel. we were thinking about her and her message of peace, hope, and love. and that s the message that grace was all about that we rode for, to deliver that to america, so that america knows what grace is all about as well as all of the other children we lost that day. monte frank, thanks for joining us and thanks for bringing the connecticut effect to washington again today. thank you. thanks. largely due to a ground swell of protests, sparked by an oscar nominated documentary about sexual assaults in the military, the senate and new secretary of defense will take up the first investigation into sexual assault in the military in ten years. that s coming up. why cpac is giving its best speaking times to the court jesters of the republican party, sarah palin and donald trump, and giving less time to real policy makers like marco rubio and paul ryan and absolutely no time to the most popular republican in the country, chris christie. lla university understs rough economic times have led to an increase in clinical depression. drug and alcohol abuse is up. and those dealing with grief don t have access to the professional help they need. when you see these issues, do you want to walk away or step up? 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yes, i ll be focusing on my personal story and how the system failed me in my experiences. so my testimony will be coming from a personal perspective and personal experiences and not as much from my professional experiences. i want to show a sample of exactly that kind of story from the oscar nominated documentary invisible war of women talking about what it is like to report these rapes. when you report something, you better be prepared for the repercussions. if a man gets accused of rape, it is a setup, the woman is lying. i could choose to report it, but if i wasn t, you know, if they found that what i was saying wasn t to be truthful, then i would be reduced in rank. you could lose your rate, you could lose rank, you could lose your school, if you file a false report. so do you want to file a report? anu, one of the things that strikes me about the wilkerson case, here is a general last week overruling one of these findings. this is after this film has come out. this film was seen by the secretary of defense, leon panetta and by chuck hagel. this film had a big impact in the military, but apparently that general seems to think it is the old time business as usual? that s right. well, what we see is there s systemic injustice within the criminal justice system. i saw it when i was a company commander in the marine corps dealing with some of these reports. when i reported it, when i tried to stick up for my marines being sexually assaulted or harassed, senior commanders swept these cases under the rug. i saw that time and time again. the stories you heard in the film were quite typical, but what we want to see and what i ll be testifying about tomorrow is really two major sweeping reforms that we feel will fix this problem. the first is that commanders really shouldn t have the authority to have convening authority, which is essentially what the three star general that overturned that sexual assault conviction had. really lawyers, prosecutors are supposed to be the ones endowed with that authority. in civilian, it is district attorneys that are trained lawyers, been to law school, they have expertise in the law, are the ones that make those kinds of decisions, which sex crimes will go to trying and so on. in the military, that doesn t exist, u.s. military i should say. there are common law allied countries in which commanders don t have that kind of discretion. rebekah, when people joined the military, especially now, they know there s risk and danger. we are a country that s been in live combat for over a decade now. but when you joined, did you have any sense that you were in this kind of danger within and among your own troops? no, i don t think anybody thinks that when they join the military. the military trains you from the beginning to focus on the unit, to take care of each other, to band together, and having something like that happen to you when you re in the military produces a whole another sense of betrayal and trauma and really just makes a deep impact on your psyche as a person and your mental status. and i don t think anybody is ever thinking about that when they walk into a job like the military and that s what i saw, i saw it as a job, something i enjoyed doing. i never thought that i would end up where i did. anu, do you suspect that the fact that we now have women on the armed services committee in the senate is making a difference in the way this issue is being heard? i do think that matters. the spearhead of reform on this committee are powerhouses when it comes to defending service members generally, and i would like to say with this particular issue it is not a women s issue, and i don t mean that in a women s issue way, over 10,000 assaulted were men. we need to put the facts out there and understand that rape and assault in the u.s. military, it is not a gender issue, it is a military issue, it is an issue of complete failure within the judicial system inside the military to properly handle these cases, and the final recommendation we are making is that service members as volunteers defending our nation should have the same constitutional rights as the americans whom they protect. today they do not. they cannot bring civil claims for sexual harassment, workplace discrimination like a civilian victim in a civilian workplace could do. we will be watching your testimony tomorrow. thank you very much for joining us tonight. thank you. tomorrow night, senator claire mccaskill will join me after the hearings for a last word exclusive. coming up in the rewrite, the 100 year wait for a presidential pardon in the case of the legendary jack johnson. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? 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tina johnson, both former slaves. henry johnson was a school janitor and tina johnson a laundress. they made sure all their children went on to read and write. he went on to be the first black heavyweight boxings champion. was a better writer and public speaker than his five years of formal education would have led you to expect. he called what he did for a living, quote, the stern business of pugilism. boxing was segregated when jack johnson started. there was no hope he would fight for the real world heavyweight championship. he won the world colored heavyweight championship in 1903, five years later, on the day after christmas, in 1908. jack johnson finally won the world heavyweight championship, beating canadian tommy burns in sydney, australia. to get that fight, jack johnson stalked tommy burns around the world two years taunting him in the press. you heard the great great white hope that s when the phrase was invented. the racist world jack johnson lived in called out for a great white hope to take the title back from him, but no one could beat jack johnson in the ring, and so they cornered him in the courtroom. he was convicted in 1913 under the man act, taking women across state lines for immoral purposes. when the woman in question was asked at the trial if she was in love with jack johnson, she said i don t know what love is. jack johnson testified that he and the woman were friends and that no immoral purposes were involved in their trip to atlantic city that the prosecution declared criminal. jack johnson was quickly convicted by an all white jury. i think the man was about movement. not just movement in the ring which he was a master at, but moving in life. don t pin me down. don t lock me up. don t embrace me to death. don t use me as you. i don t see his life as a tragedy either. the scene was a tragedy, america was a tragedy that it couldn t cope with him. a scrappy former boxer from nevada where jack johnson once defended his title rose last week, in of all places in the united states senate to try to rewrite the wrong the government did to jack johnson. senator harry reid who hustled his way around nevada boxing rings before going to law school and getting into politics, joined with senator john mccain, massachusetts senator mo count, and peter king to introduce a resolution to pardon jack johnson. jack johnson was a legendary competitor that defined an era of american boxing and raised the war for all american athletics, said senator reid. his memory was unjustly tarnished, and it is time to recast his legacy. senator john mccain said we can never completely right the wrong perpetrated against jack johnson during his lifetime, but this pardon is a small, meaningful step toward acknowledging his mistreatment before the law and celebrating his legacy of athletic greatness and historical significance. senator cowan said jack johnson was one of the great african-american athletes, his skill and perseverance to get back up every time he was knocked down made him a champion in the eyes of the sports world and for those that like him pursued their dreams despite racial in tolerance. jack king said he is a trail blazer and legend whose boxing career was cut short due to unjust laws and racial persecution. i urge congress and the president to take the final step and grant his pardon. there isn t much doubt about how congress will handle this resolution, recommending a pardon. both houses have passed it unanimously before twice, first under president bush and under president obama and neither president, neither one of them, was moved to take action. but of course, the presidential power to pardon is absolute. no action by congress is actually necessary. president obama has never said why he didn t pardon jack johnson when congress unanimously asked him to do so. the senators and congressmen pushing this pardon are apparently hoping that a reelected president obama sees this differently than he did in his first term, and so tonight 100 years after jack johnson s conviction in court the final justice for the first african-american heavyweight champion is up to the first african-american president. i would say in his way on a far lower scale johnson is there with people like lincoln, thomas edison, duke ellington, louis armstrong. these homemade guys, guys whom you couldn t figure out that there s no recipe for, he s one of them. and he s the kind of a person who could only have taken who could have only come about in the united states because america for whatever its problems still has a certain kind of elasticity, latitude, that allows a person to dream a big enough dream that can be achieved if the person is as big as the dream. ooked it. but there s one. one that s always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of 93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it s mocking me. 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[ dennis ] good hands. good home. make sure you have the right home protection. talk to an allstate agent. since election night 2012, many republicans from sean hannity to bobby jindal have been trying to figure out what the republican party has to do to attract republican voters. the cpac meeting in washington this week decided to leave the big stuff to sean hannity, they just want to have fun. according to a draft of the speaking schedule obtained by national review, the sillier you are, the more speaking time you get. the unemployed former half term governor of alaska is scheduled to speak for 16 minutes. fake billionaire and reality host and fake human being donald trump gets 14 minutes, which is one minute longer than the time granted to bobby jindal, rand paul, rick perry, scott walker, and they each have two more minutes than are scheduled for marco rubio and paul ryan. rick santorum clinging to the wreckage of his political career is now worth seven minutes at cpac. joining me now, jonathan capehart. cpac isn t serious, they just want to have like a comedy festival they want to have there. they can t possibly be serious. sarah palin s description, you left off best selling author and reality television star and soon to be author of a christmas book. they can t be serious. did you put that ted cruise is getting the most? he is getting 33 minutes for the keynote address. he is give and huge platform. one week marco rubio is the savior, this week ted cruise is the savior of the republican party. today we talk about the ryan budget plan, something that s not serious at all, you have to wonder whether the republican party, particularly the conservative wing of the republican party is serious at all about being a major national party any more. ted cruise, by the way, will maybe or maybe not do some version of his joe mcmillan cart eli where he said this about harvard law school. there are fewer declared republicans in faculty when we were there than communists. 12 would say they were marxists, and believed in the communists overthrowing the united states government.
from 1961 to 2,000 and leaves out the last deck a i did ask so it says how many newer homes do we really need here and it s one and a quarter million and so may be between one and a quart million and one and-a-half million is where we aught to be and so now i m going to backup and go to the previous slide and if this was penciled in here it would be a horizontal line through this graph and we would find that we were building way too much at the height of the bubble and so where are we going from here we are going back to one and a quarter or one and-a-half million or so overt course of next five years and considering we have been at 600,000 or so, if we go to one .2 million that is a double in the pace of reconstruction activity the and twice as many framers roofers and home inspector and is then that has a booying fantastic on the overall economy having said that i m not living with my head in the sand here i recognize that a lot of markets are still suffering a little bit and this graph show you s you the change of value in home price from their local market peak to where they are at present the case sowler composite and san francisco is halfway through the pack there down to about 33% and so whole values are still off from where they were before but if you look at where we are from the low point until where we are today, san francisco is looking a little bit better and oakland is not a member city and they randomly take 20 cities that are plead broadly representative of the housing market and san francisco is the second line on here and posted as one of the naysest paces of recovery and so we get some help from residential construction and we also get help from securelier spending this is what i m showing here and this is the debt service ratio and it s an interesting concept if says if you add up my mortgage payment and car payment and any other kind of consumer debt that i carey and how much of that is a% of personal disposable income and where we are at relative total whereas 30 years that service ratio is about as low as it s been during anytime at that period and is there any reason that the fed tries to lower interest raid and rate and drive the cost of housing and if you look at the graph on the left hand side the blue portion is the household real estate value and not surprisingly it s down and hasn t really come back much in the last couple of ears and the rusty color on top is the financial assets and we have retraced a lot of the lost rounds in the recession people s 401 k s have come back and so in 2013, we are probably back to pre-recession level of household wealth respondent right-hand side there, you see the retail fails and personal number are hanging in there and that aught to support a halfway decedent growth in consumer spending and that is what this is showing here may be two% growth in securelier spendings and so you get some help from construction sector and consumer spend something and what about businesses what role do they play in this, gdp growth in the future to the expend it has and this is a look at cash on hand and the point point is that businesses are swim swimming in cash but not spending it. and this is a look at business spendings and what you find is that in the early part of this recovery when consumers were you know, hiding under their beds and you know worried about the recession it was businesses that were really spending rather aggressively they had just laid off 8 million people and looking for ways to become more productive through the implementation of the better use of it can technology and capital investment and this period right after the recession, businesses were spending a lot and sort-of loss a lot of mommentum here and not completely convinced that they have lots the way and they are not going into hiding either. this line the biggest take away looking at this graph may be legible from where you are sittings and i ll try do what i can to call out the lints that most people care about g d p is two% it s a little weaker than that in the opt year because you get a slower start because of the tax that weighs on consumer spending in the first couple of quarters inflation is more or less in line with the fed s target rate of roughly two% and i i think we do a farrell decedent job with our forecast and you can tabling me into talking about upside or down side risk here with you there is one line federal funds target rate and i feel confidant about our forecast for that line because the federal reserve is told that is where they are going to keep the short term interest rates between now and 2014 and if you are looking at the ten year rate and wondering when can i expect to put money in a cd or short-term savings account and expect a normal rate of return, unfortunately probably not at anytime in our 44 cast period and if you look at the treasury it closed at one 99 and two% for the last couple of most and is for the next two years it doesn t get above 2.6% and so what we are really saying there is if you look at united states treasuries right now the two biggest buyer of threshys are the united states reserve and they are going to continue to buy treasuries to continue to drive down interest raids and the other major buyers are foreign central bank and is ten year ago at the time if i had i was a foreign central bank i would have bought japanese den nominated bonds and britishic pound sterling and united states treasure res is that the case today? central bangs don t want to touch anything in euros and japan is slipping into another recession united kingdom never got out of it s last recession and now it s getting into it s next recession we main feel good about our gdp growth but we are doing better than the other advanced economies of the world and there is a johnny cash song that says the beer i had for break fast was not bad and so i had one more for desert and i full bled through my closet and found my cleanest dirty shirts and so, united states foreign bonds are the cleanest dirty shirts down and as marry mentioned in the introduction the weekly and monthly ox comment tare we have printed versions of our commentary on a both outside and there is a link there that you can sign up to receive complimentary sub contribution to that for being here today. to sum everything up, i guess what i would say here is, we are growing at below our potential you know, the commie cook growing at a faster clip if we can get the budget problems out of our way but it s not as though we are in the risk of slipping back into the a double dip recession and we are finally at a point here where this two% may noting what everybody wants but it s a better alternative and advanced to the other economies the world and i would love it see congress cop out torl to embrace the simple simp son bowel s proposal and balance the budget in ten years but i think we have a better chance of seeing that happen and you know, in the many time you know, sometimes in the wake of the election we stopped paying attention to some of the poles and the congressional pole rating it s a drop from 14% to nine. not 9% it s actually nine people in the country that think that congress is doing a good job right now. but with that, i thank you all very much for having me today. (applause) . thank you tim and thank you wells fargo bank for providing tim and now, we are going to invite our mayors to the stage and we are going to be able to hear about their requirement prierts and outlook and envision and is each mayor will get some time on the podium and then other manage editor will be leading a k q and a with them and if there are questions that you would like to ask him hold your hands up and either now or during the presentation and we will get to as many as we can and since fraction is the host city, mayor lee is gracious enough to allow mayor khan to go first please welcome dan angle who s president of golden gate university to introduce mayor khan (applause) good morning. i noticed that governor rick pairy was mentioned articlier and i think i may send him a question and tell him why i came here ten year ago and there is some good news in recent california he picked out the top three firms he was after and called a joint meeting of the legislature and he did pretty well till he got to the third one he could not remember who it is of golden gate university is pleased once again to be a respond to cor of this annual event we are privileged to learn of the mayor s visions for the city and is after 12 years of educating professionals in the greater san francisco bay area and around the world we at g g u firmly believe that an educated workforce is the best way to bring that vision forward. we applaud mayor khan s efforts to workforce development opportunity opportunities for the cities and we hope to work with her to create additional opportunity we thank the mayor for her continued services in the city of oakland and the bay area now before you meet her there is going to be a short video but we want you to welcome may khan. thank you. oakland has a rich hair damage it s talented and there is a few reason why artistss are gravi at a timing to oakland one it has a long history of art for many reasons certainly there is a huge rich tradition here it s a perfect artistic hub it s a place that if i were back in a band i would seriously consider located locketting my place here you can grow your audience there is a lot of new businesses sprod sprouting you mean and new cafe and is stews. and if i brought someone to oakland the highlight of the trip they would have to see pandoras office and is the neighborhood they over look i have lived in the neighborhood for over a decade now and how they have evolved and transformed. sidewalks are full and at night now there are people all over and for our employees, that is place where they spend a lot of time there is a lot of thing for them do now and socially groups are always going out and about and pandora is an artistic and creative enterprise fundamentally and that is a business that you want to be in a like minded community. oakland to know it to love it. (applause) . . good morning. [inaudible/incomprehensible] the chain we celebrate for weeks and weeks on happy valentines day. i also like to know who i m talking to so how many of you have been to the east bank? okay pretty good about a third that is about the same in oakland about a third in san francisco and how many of you have visited on the east bay yeah, another about a third. so that is actually one of the points that i ll be making today basically, the two things i want you to walk out remembering today is that oakland is on the rise and it s growing mommentum and at this point in history, it s the rural city of business opportunities and i m going go over just a few of those points. mary asked us to pick an hour and i love mary and she is this charge of the local papers and trends and i m sure most of you do. oakland is a city that is definitely on the rise and has stabilizessed a really strong financial base. probably in the strongest position that we have been in in a decade, and that is due to my new management leadership team and i want to give a shout out to santa ana city mr. and pat johnson who s the assistant to the managerial financeses and i m going to intros them a little later. we have basically and you nerve can tell because of the surprises from the other government and is the feds and the elimination of redevelopment and et cetera but we have got an 80 million-dollar revival in five years and in case we have to ref development all of our economic indicators are up and they are above rejection and up $11 million above our projection and that is every revenue and income source and standard business source and is tour restaurant tax and is most of the rest of the city has holt new restaurants and? jack land and still a heart in the center of the bay area [name?] who was just one of the chef s award warded of the year and oakland is a city boomings and we are tryinged and part of ourselves and we have had amazing growth and we are going to move more towards towards it s business second thoors you care about we have taken $11 million and invested it in our town and we have even with the loss of economic development we have a new economic development office for the people (applause) and he is about to announce and it will not be today but he is about to announce a new economic development director that i think some of you will know and really think will help us reach that stage. 12%, property tax transfer trend is doing very very well, we have created 5,000 jobs, unemployment is down about four%. so what we are saying is that the city has really strong standard growth so where are the opportunities. well we have already had a shout out about healthcare and we have got i know highland hospitals here and kaiser is here is children s hospital is about to with uc s f and that is an important trend because as we grow as a region if we no longer although we will have to debate about certain teams it s something that is not necessarily drab for oakland and oakland is not something that should necessarily be bad for san francisco because in the rest of the world they call us the golden triangle and san francisco is a financial strength with oakland at the which, is they see us as a region and they come to look at investing in our area, they pretty much make a round and they don t just go to oakland they look at us and see us as a region. so healthcare, main strength of the kaiser is [inaudible/incomprehensible] to be an ensator in healthcare and that is one of the characteristic traits in oakland and we have had this year, after a decade, finally you launched the oakland in the worth of oakland by a point over there and our interim director debra allen is here all right and that is a major economic engine for the whole region how many you have are involved in transportation lodgestics? not that many here, okay but that is if you look, into commercial real estate and they use economic engine for the entire region and so i look at the jobs that are for the worth port oakland which, is the first port that met the call to export more than we imported and that, that, is very important and that the expansion of the army base after ten years and my deputy there on swan son, over here for played a major role in getting that conversion for the federal government and the chief of staff and so, this is an area where, we made a decision that industrial jobs and the calm of the president, to make sure that we have a balanced economy, we sure hope we get one of those 15 industrial charity and is training opportunities in the country. because, they are paying college jobs as a solution and for some to be quite honestly say it s part of my evolve strategy to raise the city to 50% of the jobs to open residency and the community college to make sure that happens. as development happens some of the biggest fonts and largest footprints in the area are happening in oakland you have heard of city where the negotiationss are but it s more than the spokes team it s the airport connector that is about to be finished is a real opportunity to develop a multimillion project that you can measure and opportunity and housing and detail. and there are no traditional shopping malls in oakland and there could be one anywhere and you shall you re looking at the 600 ache remember customers and then the whole industrial park between the park to the airport and scwh has just gotten several grant for the developing e i r for the whole area and that was one of the thing that i wanted to repeat is that oakland has been hit by the recession in the past and the plans for the whole renalle block for development and the broader quoter quarter where it s interesting and in turn a traditional and retail and even looking at the little spot in the port of oakland that might might be home to oakland or another team or mainly total and other facilities right on the estuary probably in the bay area. the other area where we see obvious growth is in our restaurant industry and so last year in the new york times, as london we are very proud and i know those are isn t that correcty comments and not really these are my friends in san francisco but if you have been to if you have not been to some of the hot new restaurant, they are just a block away, i ll buy you a particular i can get to dictionarily s if i take the train in 15 minutes. and today i spend 45 minutes on the boat but you know-bridge and in terms of the very very big transit of economic [inaudible/incomprehensible] we have talked about transportation and we have talked about the growth in housing, and some of our hot new sites oakland city is a city that has five and one of them is in the era of development, in the city, we plan mainly developments around each of those it s taking off right now as under construction, we are planning out chlic seem and the chlic seem city, we are hopeful that we will eventually get through the development on the last san francisco. and south. but in terms of the issues of real estate, in august, oakland had the fastest turn around of residential construction in the country [inaudible/incomprehensible] average our rental market now ranks fourth in the nation for both and that is still not 70% of san francisco and so definitely there is a lot of investment there and fortunately, irents are on the way up and the commercial industrial, rental and down to four% vacancy. the vague 83cy is very similar and so we are seeing people beginning to pull the 2,000 condo and units that we had approved before the recession pulled and to start those up and so in 2,000, howing is ready to go and we have major beginning of interest in commercial space on the board way quarter and height limits. so we are i was saying looking at some buildings in shanghai hong kong and thinking i wonder how they will sit on broadway and meanwhile, we continue to be one of the greatest cities and over 100 miles of bike lanes and i have a little competition on that i m ahead of him thousand and we are one of the city that is have changed the way that knob snub and we are proud that what we have been able do that and we are one of the most liveable laces in the world, oakland has better climate, but we are an amazing place to live and an amazing place for creativity, so, we have pandora and the little cluster of software companies around had a and we have a very nays-growing industry and many of the flackets you see are dhoastled in oakland, and new or gangs food products under the cost potential now are being manufactured in oakland and so we have what i think is a really balanced, balanced economy. so, what we are not talking about crime but, i just [inaudible] approximate was not part of the agenda but what are some of the challenges and part of the challenges is more i think the perceptual reality of crime and this is a year of where crime went up everywhere in san francisco and san jose and quite frankly and i m being very honestly about this because of what the president said the other night we are for the not going to end unless we get the universal background check on gunses because california and oakland have some of the strongest laws in the country but the guns come in across nevada evidence and we need all of your help to support the president on this. because if you care about the violence in america cities, we have to have it s a no-brainer if it s legal for a teenager to have a machine begun in the streets of urban america and that is leading to this higher murder rate across the country it makes a difference. so, if you need to we need you to help support the president on that and you can do that and my organization is to to help the obama administration we can bring down violate crime permanently if we also refer to the issues of giving opportunity to young people and hope. and oakland more than other cities we have more people that have been left out of the america dream and as president obama said the other bay; day, we all have to rise as americans we have this amazing in the next year and the pledge i make for my nun i couldn t think people is that we will rise together and so we have summer jobs and internship that we can take here in san francisco for young people in the parts of oakland and young african american that are still dropping out before they finish high school and i think if they get a job or an intern ship in the summer they are less likely to drop out and so that is what i m ep ending with and oakland is a city of hope that we need help and that is what we need do is support the american dream by making sure that everybody in the city rises and so thank you very much and we look forward [inaudible/incomprehensible] my admiration and love and understanding of what the culture is experience i have been here for 50 years, our 50 is one of the greatest cities to ever rise up and stand up if you meet people from oakland, they are some of the warmest people they carry hope, they use fire they oakland is a hub of creativity we are who we are we are political, we are artsy, we are musicians for the entrepreneur oak
san jose to tell us why the teacher had contact with a number of students in a number of cities, robert? reporter: it has been a long tough day for the district informing parents and as the word spread the fear grows. reporter: tracing the steps has the andrew hill high school busy today. he was arrested by police for distributing child pornography. the youngest ones were four years old, up to nine. 5-7 years old. these are sexual acts. there is no evidence he produced his own child pornography. he was a substitute from 2009 till last month. investigators point out he worked a large area. we are determining at what schools he substituted, how many days, what grade levels so we could be responsive to parents. the superintendent held an emergency meeting this afternoon and parents were notified quickly. it is horrible. my first thought was i hope it wasn t one of my kids. real upsetting. i feel for the families and the other educators that are involved because how do you know what someone is doing, who they are? reporter: the accusations made one neighbor recall a conversation she over heard when he was videotaping a young girl. work it, girl. work your stuff. work it. that is not something an adult should tell a child. reporter: he was released, investigators say with a state felony he may face federal charges. robert handa, ktvu channel 2 news. www.ktvu.com has a link that will let you download the letter to parents. just look under hot topics. protesters defended some gang members being held in the state prison. new tonight at 6:00 p.m. ktvu s mike mibach is live with the punishment they say amounts to torture. reporter: 10 inmates named in the lawsuit, they describe torture and cruel and unusual punishment. fellow human beings. reporter: today they rallied in oakland. it is torture. reporter: on their minds prisoners locked up. not like they are prisoners of war. they are in prison here. they are human beings. reporter: there are 10 convicted criminals associated with rival games. they are hopeful because of the lawsuit. reporter: she is one of the attorneys representing the prisoners. we are seeking a court ruling that anything above 10 years in solitary confinement is unconstitutional. reporter: they spend 22 half hours a day deprived of human contact. lot of them sleep at cold because it is cold. they don t have access to the outside. spokeswoman said it is essentially from allowing them organizing gang aacts ang acts. gang acts. with that out of the way and the other comments she made, we feel like we will be able to make progress more rapidly in the next period. reporter: prisoners went on a hunger strike calling attention to the treatment of those and another one could happen this summer. they launched a program in the fall with the goal of reducing the 3,000 inmates confined to the security housing units. a trial date could be set in august. live in oakland, mike mibach, ktvu channel 2 news. a 14-year-old boy was arrested this afternoon after a school received bomb threats two days in a row. they were telephoned in yesterday and today. officers determined the calls were coming from somewhere on campus. they arrested the 14-year-old student this afternoon. he was charged with making terrorist threats at school. threatening graffiti at a high school had little effect on attendance. 92% of students showed up to class at foothill high school after a message in which someone threatened to shoot everyone today was discovered this week. officials increased security and said many of the absent students were in school functions off campus. man arrested for drunk saling. happened at 6:00 p.m. last night. rangers say the owner of the boat who hasn t been identified was arrested for boating under the influence. the man is from alaska and just bought the boat last month. not everyone got the word that today san francisco symphony s performance was canceled. they are not going to play. it was a shock for the carters who traveled from new england for the show. the couple says they support the strike and increased wages for the musicians. i think probably they deserve it. 6 figures. that is okay with you? sure. the musicians went on strike yesterday amid failed contract talks. san jose leaders launched free wickedly fast wi-fi. officials say it is the fastest free wifi in north america. it was created by rutgust technologies. tonight on the 10:00 p.m. news we tested it out. what our survey showed us about this new speed. the supreme court cleared the way for walmart to build the east bay s first super center. they have been trying trying to expand for a decade. they decided not to hear petitions from opponents. the new addition would add 30,000 square feet. a call center in contra costa county is back on the table after supervisors rejected it. every state is required to create health benefit exchanges to help people compare private insurance plans. the contra costa county center could create 200 jobs. the board of supervisors will vote tomorrow afternoon. lawmakers are considering a new bill that would end the practice of sending out early pink slips to teachers. under the law they have to issue notices by march 15 but this bill pushes the date back so they have a better idea of their budget and don t send out more notices than necessary. they be to give they have to give it out before they know what the state will give them. however the california teachers association is opposed to this bill say it doesn t give teachers enough time to find new jobs. time to start planning for the weekend, the temperature changes i am tracking and st. patrick s day. last seen alive in san jose, what police say witnesses may have seen that could solve this case. they lost their only child in the connecticut shooting, their plea for a solution to predict and prevent another tragedy. hgn the sheriff s department uncovered new details in a homicide. the body of eric garcia was found in the mountains. investigators say he is a member of a motorcycle club. they now know he was last seen on september 19 at the park lane lounge in san jose with members of the rival club. three months go 20 children and 6 adults were gunned down at sandy hook elementary school. ktvu s david stevenson is live with families are asking to help prevent another tragedy. david? reporter: that s right. parents of children slain at sandy hook elementary school today told us they are turning to companies to prevent more gun violence. last friday would have been his 7th birthday. reporter: parents of three children explained in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school slain in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school in connecticut. three months after his death i am still in a state of shock. this mobilized the nation, we can feel the thirst for change and the need to do things differently. reporter: they agree ending gun violence needs another approach. they are calling for new forms of technology to curve gun violence with a prize offered for the most promising ideas. we will harness innovation to bring solutions to gun safety, mental health and school safety. reporter: they lost their only child. on that day a gunman changed our lives and the lives of 25 other families in one of the worst ways imaginable. the two are turning from grief to their backgrounds at scientists. they are calling to invest in new technology to measure brain functions. imagine we could identify people at risk of violent behaviors. early. young in their life and then we can intervene. reporter: the initiative aims to generate $15 million in its first year for companies aiming aiming to curve gun violence. david stevenson, ktvu channel 2 news. hundreds of san francisco city college students, teachers and union members are protested today a day before a deadline that would determine the school s future. tomorrow is the deadline for officials to submit a report on why the college should keep its accreditation. the rotesters say proposals to protesters say the proposals are not the answer. but many administrators say the cuts are necessary to keep the school afloat. lawmakers rejected calls for more over sight of the high- speed rail project. they voted down a request for a third audit of the project. nobody is in charge of the public funds so the legislators who is the gate keeper for the funds, we need to know the procedures are in place and track them. this has the most over sight we have ever seen. construction on the first phase is set to begin this summer. santa cruz county will raise the price of paper bags next week. a ban on plastic bags have been in effect for almost a year now and now officials are raising the price of paper bags to 25 cents. the idea is to get more to bring their own bags. the price increase goes into effect march 20. apple ceo is ordered to give a deposition. the government is accusing them of conspiring to raise e-book prices. yesterday the judge over seeing the case granted a request for his deposition. google is shutting down its google reader because of declining usage. it allows users to pull together content in one place. it is part of the company s focus on fewer products with larger impact. a few clouds out there tonight. those clouds dropped the temperature as few degrees. temperatures a few degrees. clouds linger tonight and into tomorrow morning. get ready for fog to return. there are all the high clouds. closer you can see the coverage. partly cloudy skies all around the bay right now. current temperatures are mild. not bad for this time of night. like i say, it is winter but it doesn t look like winter. we are continuing with this very warm, unusually warm weather pattern. these are the highs. we will see lots of mid-70s, 77, 76 tomorrow. warmer temperatures around the bay as well. dense fog advisory could happen again tomorrow morning. be prepared for that. it will give you grief again tomorrow morning. golden gate bridge, all the bridges impacted this morning. warm pattern into the extended forecast but when we go way out there is rain. i will show you that. air is compressing, you get dense fog along the coast. sometimes it creeps into the bay, around the corner out by you get poor visibilities on the bay. tomorrow is mild like today. high pressure owns everything. through the weekend. and we get what we have been seeing. temperatures came down, come up a little bit on friday. and on saturday, the same and sunday they cool. 24 hours. 24 hours. tuesday, next week. look what happened. clouds are moving in. rain out here. and then boom! right here, tuesday night, wednesday, clouds and rain on wednesday morning right now. we will watch it. looks like a nice system. the drag is, there is nothing behind it. one shot deal. that is the thing you get. one shot deals into march. you don t get the strings of storms. five-day forecast with your bay area weekend in view just another amazing week. amazing weather in winter. when you say a nice season storm, rather, half inch? hard to say. maybe half inch. this doesn t look stacked up. we need stacked up. thank you. coming up on bay area news at 7:00 on tv 36 we are following the search in santa cruz for a man who authorities say they be disoriented and a buzz with the dow s winning streak, 10 in a row, should investors dive in or pull back? ktvu channel 2 news join us for these stories and more on bay area news at 7:00 on tv 36. the key jobs indicating the nation s unemployment rate is headed towards. the unemployment rate dropped to a 5 year low. applications for jobless benefits fell by 10,000 to 322,000. that is the lowest sincey. 2008 and since march 2008. and when they are under 350,000 it indicates a pull back in layoffs. unemployment dropped 13% since last november. mark is enjoying spring training, fred is here with us and a lot of moving and shaking in the nfl. a jobs fair. the 49ers lost another defensive player today. he is now with minneapolis. he agreed to a four year deal with the colts. one day after interviewing charles woodson san francisco brought in another former raider cornerback, nnamdi asomugha. he sin for a viz he is in for a visit today after being released from philadelphia. they must pay him $4 million no matter where he ends up. st. louis says good-bye to steven jackson today. steven jackson agreed to a three year $12 million deal with atlanta. san francisco will host the falcons in the regular season. team u.s.a. can clinch a spot in the world baseball classic tonight. u.s.a. failed to reach it in the two previous world baseball classic but today they score in the first three innings. r.a. dickey gave up just one run in 5 innings. it is 1-1 in the 6th inning. we will have highlights tonight. in arizona today josh redick homers but they lose 6-2 and the giants lost to the japanese team. that is sports. lots more tonight at 10:00 p.m. a lot of movement in the nfl. thank you. time is running out as we mentioned earlier for san francisco city college. tonight at 10:00 p.m. the protest and plans in the final hours before the college has to prove its worth or face closure. thank you for trusting ktvu channel 2 news. we are always here for you on www.ktvu.com and mobile ktvu. thank you for joining us. mom, i invited justin over for lunch. good. no, not good. he s a vegetarian and he s going to be here in 20 minutes! [ mom ] don t stress. we can figure this out. [ male announcer ] get the speed to make a great first impression. call today to get u-verse high speed internet for as little as $14.95 a month for 12 months with a one-year price guarantee. this is delicious. [ male announcer ] save the day in an instant. at&t. george: say it s saturday night in spain. they go out dancing. think they do the flamenco? i would think. so you could call the woman for a date ask her if she s free for dinner and a flamenco. you don t flamenco on the first date. i wish the flamenco was popular here. would you do it? yes. i think i would. [telephone rings] i knew you had an affinity for it because it s the dance of a very proud people. hello? oh, hi, nana. what? all right. don t worry about it. ok. i ll see you later. all right. bye. i have to go to my grandmother s. what for? i have to open a bottle of catsup for her. so no lunch? no. we have time. how s she doing? she s starting to slip a little. sometimes she has trouble distinguishing between past and present. there s got to be an easier way to open catsup. they should make it in a tube. like toothpaste? aha! there s a squeeze catsup. i ve seen squeeze mustard, never squeeze catsup. if they make squeeze mustard, it stands to reason that they make squeeze catsup. not necessarily. mustard lends itself to the squeeze. i really don t see the difference. oh, there s a difference. it s subtle. isn t elaine supposed to meet us? yeah. there she is. uh-oh. what? ah, she s with her friend wendy. wendy? is that the physical therapist? yeah. i m on a kiss hello program with her. every time i see her i got to kiss hello. i just did it once on her birthday. somehow it mushroomed. now i dread seeing her because of it. i m down to one kiss hello my aunt celia. that s fortunate. i really admire that. really? huh. never said you admired me for anything. i told you i admire your hearing. yeah, but. don t slough it off. you have great hearing. hi. hi. oh, did you ever meet george? wendy. you re a physical therapist, right? i ve got this little swelling right here. it s kind of tender. have you tried heat and ice on it? that really seems like a lot of trouble. you could come by my office later. i could work on it a little. oh! ok. let me give you my card. well, i ll see you guys later. nice meeting you. bye, elaine. bye, wendy. bye. bye, jerry. what did you do that for? what? ask her about your arm? the difference between a vase and a vaz? a vaz is a really nice vase. shop like a fashionista. do you like this vaz? got it for the price of a vase! save like a maxxinista. designer brands at t.j. prices. t.j.maxx. i do n t see why i can t ask her about my arm. she s a physical therapist. she doesn t want to deal with that outside of the office. why not? because it is what she does. you can t ask these people questions. they re so mentally gifted that we mustn t disturb the delicate genius except in an office. when huge sums of money are involved then the delicate genius can be disturbed. george you got something right here. people think they re so important! i m going on record. that was my last kiss hello. i m getting off the kiss program with her. why? outside of a sexual relationship i don t see the point to it. i m not thrilled with hand shaking, either but one step at a time. what are you getting? and what s with that hairdo, by the way? yeah, i know. it s not very flattering. she looks like something out of an old high school yearbook. you should say something. i could never say anything about that. yeah. kramer s the only person who could say something like that. tell kramer to tell her. no. if you tell him to do it, he ll never do it. you introduce him, and he ll just come out with it. yes. yes, you re right. that s right! i ll bring her over to meet kramer! oh! boys and girls. speak of the devil. listen, i, uh, i need a picture of you, buddy. what for? i m putting everybody s picture up in our lobby. why? so everyone will know everybody s name. i don t want my picture plastered up. imagine walking by someone on the floor and you say, hey, carl, and he says, hey, jerry. that s the kind of society i want to live in. i don t want to stop and talk with everyone every time i go in the building. i just want to nod and be on my way. you know your eyeliner s smudged a little. why do you wear so much eye makeup? yeah. this is going to work out just fine! leo: ma! again with the catsup? don t they have them in the plastic squeeze containers? [knock on door] jerry, hello! hello, uncle leo! what are you doing here? nana called me to open the catsup. yeah, me, too. hello, jerry. hi, nana. here s the bottle. i ll do it. let me do it. jerry, will you give me the bottle? uncle leo! all right! take it! you should let buddy open it. buddy? he lived next door to us 45 years ago. leo, did you give helen the $50? what $50? your father won $1,000 at the track last week and he gave you 100 and you were supposed to give $50 to your sister. ma, dad died in 1962. ha ha ha ha! believe me i don t owe your mother $50. jerry: i m not getting hot water. there s nothing worse than a broken shower. i ll get on it soon, jerry. thanks, julio. all right. oh. hey. hey, hey, hello! what s going on here? uh, nothing. nothing. what are you doing? i i need a pen. what for? well, i m making out my will. i got a big slice of dough for you, buddy. and you, too, elaine. you re looking for a picture. you got that straight. i told you forget it! oh, come on, jerry! if everybody knew everybody we wouldn t have the problems we have in the world today. you don t rob somebody if you know their name. you re robbing me. i m going to get your picture and you re going to participate in my program. are you going home? yeah. can you come back in five minutes? why? no reason. just want to see you again. are you sure wendy s coming? she ll be here any second. this will be an interesting experiment. sure you want to do this? listen, jerry, she never dates, and i know it s because of her hair. [telephone rings] hello. oh, hi, mom. yeah, i was at nana s yesterday. i helped her open a catsup bottle. ma, let me ask you a question. do you remember when you were a kid your father winning like $1,000 at the track? really? did you know he gave uncle leo $100 and he was supposed to give you 50? how do i know? because nana doesn t know what year it is and she thinks this just happened. well, i think you should. ok. bye. morty: do you know what the interest on that $50 comes to over 53 years? oh, morty, please. $663.45. that s figuring conservatively at 5% interest over 53 years compounded quarterly. or if you put it in a 10-year t-bill morty, will you stop it? well, he s not getting away with this! [door buzzes] yeah? it s wendy. come on up. well, this is it. should i go get kramer? no, he ll come in. this is my first opportunity to not kiss her hello. what is the big deal about putting your lips on somebody s face? it s the obligation. as soon as this person comes in, you know you have to do this. if you could, say, touch a breast as part of the kiss hello then i could see the value in it a little better. how about an intercourse hello. how would that be? elaine, now you re being ridiculous. [knock on door] that s her. that s her. oh. wait. wait. ok. go ahead. tch. oh! hi, wendy. hi. hi, wendy. oh, hi, jerry. would you like something to drink? sure. there you go. oh, look at that. i m almost out of klondike bars. so how s everything going? your friend george came by the office the other day. then yesterday he canceled on me. he had to take his mother to the chiropodist. [door closes] you hear that? that must be kramer. hey, jerry! come on, that s not fair! i told you i d get it! no, no, no, no! give me the picture. fine. put it up. what do i care? uh ahem kramer i d like you to meet my friend wendy. oh, hello hi. you know i really like that hairdo. oh. thank you. i actually was thinking it might be time for a change. oh, you were? oh, no, no. you don t want to do that. nobody wears it like that. kramer, if she wants to change her hair you d be a damn fool to change it. it s very becoming. oh, well. oh! ha ha. wendy: so who s that friend of yours, that guy who came in? oh, kramer. yeah. does he have a girlfriend? you want to go out with him? well, why not? it s just that. i is there anything wrong with him? elaine? i m just thinking about the question. you know my arm feels a lot better. wendy really knows her stuff. she is super. same time tomorrow? yep. same time. there you go. oh, uh.you owe 150. what for? well, you canceled on tuesday and our policy is 24 hours notice for all cancellations. cch. i couldn t come. i had to drive my mother to the chiropodist. what s the problem? are you aware that i m being charged for tuesday s appointment? i m sorry. that s our policy. oh, you have a policy! the delicate genius has a policy! so, will you be here tomorrow? well, it s less than 24 hours, so i guess i have to! hey! so what do you think? you like it? oh, my god. look at that picture. that s terrible! you can t put that up. it s not a beauty contest. it s just a way for people to get to know one another. hi, cosmo! hey.steve! now, you see? hey, kramer, my friend wendy wants to go out with you. well, how do you do? hello. jerry! oh. hello, uh. mary. i ve seen you so many times, and now we can finally talk to each other. isn t this nice? jerry, you know, could you help me with a package? sure. yeah. thank you. oh, no! that s just what i need more kissing. hee hee hee hee hee hee hee. what is so funny? nothing. nothing. [telephone rings] hello? oh, hi, ma. what? oh, ma, he didn t! he couldn t! all right. i will. ok. bye. uncle leo put nana in a home! why? i don t know. maybe to keep her quiet. [ female announcer ] the one for all. mcdonald s dollar menu home of the meaty, melty mcdouble you love. and now love two more tastes the bold hot n spicy mcchicken, and the irresistible new grilled onion cheddar. each just a dollar. hi, jerry. mmmwa! hi, joan. how you doing? pretty good. just pretty good? not great? ok great. are you happy? oh, i m delighted. ok. have a nice day. you, too. hi, jerry! hi, louise. hey! oh, well, thank you very much! for what? for putting my picture up. i m like richard dawson down there now! and every person i see engages me in this long, boring, tedious conversation. i can t even get out of the building! you should be thanking me for liberating you from your world of loneliness and isolation. now you re part of a family. family? you think i want another family? my father s demanding my uncle pay interest on $50 he was supposed to give my mother in 1941, and my uncle put my nana in a home to shut her up. and another thing, cosmo, kramer whatever you want to be called the kissing thing is over. there s no more kissing, and i don t care about the consequences. oh, hi, mr. costanza. we were trying to contact you. wendy can t make her appointment. cch. what do you mean? she had some personal affair she had to attend to. i left a message on your machine. when did you leave it? a few hours ago. oh, i m sorry. i require 24 hours notice for a cancellation. as i see it, you owe me $75. look, mr. costanza will that be cash or check? cch! i am really glad i took the day off. oh, yeah. there s nothing better than skiing. god. i hope my clients weren t too upset. ah. the hell with them. what are you stopping here for? i m dropping you off. oh, no. i m three more blocks. yeah. but if i take you to your door i have to go all the way around central park west, back to columbus. it s all one way. but it s only three blocks. right. it s only three blocks. all right. well. i got it. i got it. she d driven me 120 miles, and all of a sudden, three blocks from my door she decides this trip is over. isn t that strange? yes. it s very strange. i ve never heard of anything like this. it was as if i was hitchhiking and she said this is as far as i can take you. if you were hitchhiking, you d never get in a car with someone with that hairdo. i carried everything. i think i pinched a nerve. you should have her work on it. i got to go. hi, jerry. hi, mary. uh, listen. i ve decided i can t kiss hello anymore. it s nothing personal. it just makes me uncomfortable and i can t do it. hi, jerry! hi, louise. i was just telling mary how i m not doing the kiss hello thing anymore. i can t do it. it s nothing personal. it s just that i m not able to do it. i m sorry. thank you for your cooperation. hello? jerry? hi, mom. so is uncle leo paying you? no. he says we have no proof. no proof? we ll get him. he s a crook. sooner or later, he ll slip up. anyway, i want you to go check on nana at the home. ok. i will. do you realize an above-average performing growth mutual fund for 53 years. hey. what s up? i got to visit my nana in the nursing home. oh. hey, kramer look at this. look at my picture! i ve been defaced! well, don t you worry, buddy. i made double prints. hey. hi, cosmo. hey, jack, how you doing? hi, jack. hey, julio, could you get to that shower today? oh, i see. when you need something done you re friendly, huh? that s not true! i think it is! it s a big building, seinfeld. maybe i ll get to it someday. after i take care of the people that are civil to each other! yes, she s upstairs playing cards. she really doesn t belong here. my uncle put her here because he s trying to prove he doesn t owe my mother $50. she seems happy. she met an old friend who used to live next door. buddy? yes, that s his name. he s right over there. wendy: i m sorry. i don t owe you anything. i had some personal business that day. so your time is more valuable than mine. is that it? you re a delicate genius! a delicate genius? elaine. george! good luck. what s going on? wendy, i injured my shoulder wednesday when you dropped me off and i had to carry my skis and my boots and my poles all the way home. i m having trouble lifting my arm. could you give me some treatment? sure! you have insurance, right? insurance? you re charging me? wednesday? that s your personal business skiing? let people suffer while you re shushing all over a mountain. how did you hear that? i hear everything! why don t you two just take your business elsewhere? ah ho ho. that is a good idea. come on, george. yeah. let s go. and you know? you might want to do something about that hair. why? what s wrong with my hair? i think it s a little. old fashioned, don t you? tell her. she s right. so you were with him that day at the track? oh, yeah. he won $1,000. his son was there, too. leo? yeah that s it. leo. oh, what an obnoxious little kid. he used to steal my soda bottles and cash them in for the deposit. is that so? and after your grandfather hit the daily double he gave him $100 and told him to give 50 to his sister. his sister! he should give it to me for all the bottles he took! well, that s very interesting! uncle leo! i just met your old acquaintance. remember buddy? he just told me quite a story about you and grandpa at the track! wait a second you re busted! hey, steve. how you doing? hey, jeff. what s happening? mary! oh, mary. give us a kiss. don t be like that. do everybody a favor and get out of this building! nobody wants you here! nobody! jeff: hi, mary. hi, jeff. how are you? hi, steve! hey, let s go get some coffee. that would be great. great idea. oh, paul hold that door! captioning made possible by columbia tristar domestic television captioned by the national captioning institute www.ncicap.org could i use your shower? again? you took one this morning. i got a date. come on. please? i got a little problem. wendy here? no, no. she changed her hairstyle. it s terrible. no. we re done. i ll go get some more beer. yeah, great. and get some blue corn chips! hey! hi, cosmo. hi. ooh! i like that. who s that? stephanie. 2-g. looks like you got quite a few people here. i d invite you in, but, you know. oh. i understand. previously on the big bang theory: what s going on? (laughs) it s-it s not what it looks like. what does it look like? it s not what it looks like. it s not what it looks like. what are you grinding about? penny s brain teaser this morning. she and koothrappali emerge from your bedroom. she is disheveled, and raj is dressed only in a sheet. the sole clue: it s not what it looks like. just let it go, sheldon. if i could, i would, but i can t, so i shan t. now, knowing penny the obvious answer is, they engaged in coitus. but. since that s what it looked like, we can rule that out. let s put on our thinking cap, shall we? raj is from india, a tropical country. third world hygiene. parasitic infections are common, such as pinworms. mm-hmm. the procedure for diagnosing pinworms is to wait until the subject is asleep, and the worms crawl out of the rectum for air. yes, just like that. penny could have been inspecting raj s anal region for parasites. oh, boy. that s a true blue friend. they slept together, sherlock. no, you weren t listening. she said it s not what it looks like.
of visits to capitol hill as he wrapped up meetings with all four party caucuses. for the first time in four years, senate democrats have come up with a budget outline. some of the stories we will talk about on this friday morning, march 15. our phone lines are open. you can also join us on our facebook page. you have been weighing in already. you can contact us on facebook or send us a tweet. a story from the hill newspaper focusing on the senate and its budget panel approved in the first senate blueprint in four years. the store is available online. here are the details. there s this editorial from the wall street journal, replacing max baucus, a look at some of the key moderate senate democrats on the budget issue. senate democrats have released their first budget in four years. that editorial this morning from the wall street journal. from the new york daily news, crossfire on another issue that we focused on yesterday, the debate over guns and gun violence. this is the exchange that took place yesterday between two members of the senate judiciary committee, dianne feinstein, whose plan would ban a certain number of assault weapons and magazine clips and senator ted cruz, he spoke to her about the constitution. here s part of the exchange yesterday from the senate judiciary committee. [video clip] which reconsider its constitutional for congress to specify that the first amendment shall apply only to the following books and shall not apply to the books that congress has been outside the protection of the bill of rights, likewise with she-pac before amendment protection against search and seizure could properly applied only to the following specified individuals and not to the individuals that congress has been outside the protection of the bill of rights? you have a question, senator? let me make a couple of points in response. i am not a sixth grader. senator, i have been on this committee and 20 years. i was a mayor for nine years. i walked in and some people shot. i ve looked at bodies that have been shot with these weapons. i have seen the bullets that imposed. in sandy hook, youngsters were dismembered. there are other weapons. i am not a lawyer. but after 20 years i ve been up close and personal to the constitution. i have great respect for it. this does not mean that the weapons of war and the heller decision clearly points out three exceptions, two of which are pertinent here. it s fine if you want to lecture me on the constitution. i appreciate it. just know that i ve been here long time. i have passed on a number of bills and i ve studied the constitution myself. i m reasonably well educated. thank you for the lecture. host: according to the new new york times and the washington post, senator feinstein apologize to senator ted cruz about her remarks. the exchange is getting a lot of attention. a writer for the new york times says even if the senate passes some of the modest measures next month, they will face a steep climb in the house. that s from an interview that he conducted yesterday with the new york times. all eyes on the senate and harry reid. that s the story this morning from roll call. with the senate judiciary committee now completing its work on a for your gun meters, the majority leader must now determine his strategy for how the chamber will move forward to in response to last year s school shooting. every week yesterday told reporters that he conferred with the chairman of the senate judiciary committee and he said the and i will sit down to find out what has been reported out of the committee and what we need to do to put together as a base bill to start legislating on the senate floor. details available on roll call. callsl take your phone and you can share your thoughts on our facebook page and you can send us a tweet. bill is joining us from rhode island, independent line. good morning. are you with us? george in florida, republican, good morning. i don t think any campaign should be budgeted. the country, a good majority have already chosen to vote for a welfare check. the democrats and socialists have bought these people s votes. romney had to get past that majority of people before the election was even equal. if someone will be sent an entitlement and i am a taxpayer and this is a strain, then they are going to donate that to my opposing party. its double jeopardy for me. i would say let s cpap do what this non- cut off constitutional form of government in this country. cpac. host: now to lisa from chicago, a democrat. the president is traveling to illinois today to talk about energy issues. good morning. caller: good morning. i watched the meeting yesterday with ted cruz. it was just amazing how dishonest this man was and how being a lawyer himself, how we misinterpreted the second amendment. i don t know who he was playing through, but he was in a roomful of lawyers themselves. who do you think you are talking to? he left even before the meeting was over. a lot of what he said was proven wrong by the others. i could not believe how he twistings and blatantly lied and even said this is going to prohibit people from having guns. it was just amazing. peopleike, who are the that elect these knuckleheads? orregard to taxing the rich cutting out loopholes, everybody in this country gets some form of entitlement in one shape or form. i don t understand why because i get a paycheck and somebody else makes their money through investments or a different way, why i am taxed more. if you earn money, you get taxed on it the same as everybody else. i do not agree with that at all. and i don t understand why we have to give tax subsidies to corporations that do not need it. why on earth does the oil company need our money? why does the agriculture business need our money? you are making enough money. cut out the tax loopholes and we can get out of this mess. host: we are covering the cpac conference and there are a number of ways you can watch and listen. depending on what the house yesterday, we will be live with the house this morning, once the house recesses, the cpac coverage can be seen on this network. you can also listen on c-span radio and wanted anytime on our website, c-span.org. also be a location to what some of the conferences that get underway this morning. some other comments from facebook one other thought from peter, who says that cpac is a bunch of clowns. john is joining us from pennsylvania, independent line. welcome to the program. caller: thank you, steve peery steve.nk you, what is the question? host: there s no question. we are talking about the budget and about cpap. cpac. whatever you want to talk about. caller: the budget that the senate is trying to get through, there s enough evidence about austerity, which seems to be the whipping horse or whatever, that it does not work. it s not working. unemployment is europe is up around 25% in some places now. the people are protesting out in the streets. austerity does not work. keynesian talk about economics all they want, but it works. it has been proven to work. why the quite sure republicans, where they are coming from in trying to push this. we have not had a balanced budget for probably 150 years. but that is a little out of control, but it s coming down. or the deficit is coming down. agree with joe biden, get out of the way and at let the reasonable democrats and reasonable republicans get together and pass something. it s not working the way they re doing it now. host: thanks for the call. from politico, senator joe manchin is key to the gun control talks. the story points out that he could be president obama s best joke for a bipartisan and packaged this year. there is this from blumberg s business week carol is joining us from riverside, california, democrat. caller: good morning. i remember a few years ago catching cpac and one of the republicans said they accomplished one of their goals getting rid of keith olbermann off of tv. i thought that was weird. getting to the point, the way i see it is as long as all these big interests are going to have all the money, like 33% of the money and the havele on the bottom, 60% - 3% of the money. , long as that is going on they re going to stick to that, nobody is going to get anywhere. it is either going to take all the people in america coming together against them or it will only get worse, like the bible prophecy end of days. god bless all the hard working people who deserve better than this. host: thank you. the front page of the washington times this morning a photograph of senator rand paul among the speakers here today at the conference. in the hill newspaper there is this headline we will be covering that event. yesterday asac well. among those speaking, the governor of texas, rick perry. [video clip] is thatopular media this country has shifted away from conservative ideals, as evidenced by the last two presidential elections. that is what they think. that is what they say. that might be true if republicans had actually nominated conservative in 2008 andin a 12,00 2012. now we are told our party must shift appeal to the growing hispanic demographic. let me say something about what appeals to hispanics in states like texas. agendahe free enterprise that allows small businesses to prosper, free of government interference. it is the policy that value the family unit as the best and closest form of government. it is the belief in life and faith in god. host: governor rick perry yesterday. and the story this morning from washington post the other two speakers here today, senator rainfall rand paul and senator marco rubio. all those events at our website, c-span.org. mike is joining us from odessa, texas. caller: good morning. thatone of the knucklehead elected ted cruz. i believe he stands for the republican party. the republican party is bending over backwards for the democrats. the democrats are not swaying. i agree with governor perry implicitly that in texas we need the right to protect ourselves. some people don t get it. obama has broken the law and .umerous times congress should bring him to committee to find out why he is allowed not to do the budget. and to release budget those are the questions i have. host: robert is joining us from colorado, independent line. we are talking about cpac, the senate democrats budget, and politics in general in the nation s capital. caller: good morning. i would like to point out that so many automatic weapons between rifles and pistols is actually no different. we just band of 30-round trip but clip in colorado. what will happen next time if somebody brings in four pistols or six pistols with 15 rounds each in them? clip reloading. i just pull them out of my person and fire 15 rounds, than 15 rounds, then 15 rounds. i have my 90 rounds off. are they going to ban pistols? i would like to know. att: later in the program 8:15 eastern time we will take a look at america by the numbers and examine the issue of mental health issues among young people we are also getting your comments on our twitter page. tell us what you think. if you are impacted directly or indirectly or if you are mental health counselor, we want to hear from you. that s in the next hour and. a two our washington journal because the house is in early today. the president travels next week to the middle east, his first visit as president to israel. the story this morning from usa today an the hill newspaper has a preview of the president s trips. he will also deliver remarks at a memorial paying tribute to the holocaust victims. we will cover some of the key events of the president s trip next week. he s back at the white house next sunday. right now the vice president will be out of town on tuesday. people travel to rome for the ceremony officially it inducting pope francis at the vatican. from north carolina, a democrat, i have a comment and then a statement. i think the only way we can move forward is putting god first. we have gotten away from a lot of things in society. rich, poor, and middle-class alike. economy isar as the concerned, we are to come together and make it grow. people have been coming out of prison who have been locked up for years and have no sense of direction for what they will do when they get out, just because jobs require certain backgrounds. the money that we pay the why don t we use that to provide a job where everybody gets an opportunity to get off welfare and food stamps? a program should be put in place for those on financial assistance from the government to do some type of work, to earn what they get. those incentives that are being given could be used to develop the economy. thank you, c-span. host: on twitter al writes about cpac. that the editorial this morning on cpac from al cardenas as cpac joins its 40th year. travis is on the republican line. caller: there should be a progressive tax on revenue. and i would like to see campaign funds taxed. on the second amendment, it s as we shall not have any infringement [indiscernible]. take care. host: this remark from liz smith usa today has a story getting attention this friday morning, the announcement yesterday from ohio senator portman becoming the only sitting republican senator to support gay marriage. he also sat down with cnn and that interview is available on cnn s web site. brad from nevada, independent line. caller: good morning. seems like we are going around and around and around. i watched a lot of these committees that they are trying to put together so we can work together with the republicans and democrats, amendments. it just seems like we are not getting anywhere. i.is i, i, i watched a lot of it. this across the table with a blank face, the democrats. the republicans are doing all the talking, making sense. and there s no response back from the democrats. they just look dumbfounded. it is like we re not getting anywhere. no amendments. ,hen they take all the votes democrats get the republicans by two votes and they toss out the amendments. the republicans are making so much sense on everything. my dad is a world war ii veteran and flew missions over germany. he sees all of this. he is a very frustrated just frustrated, which i am, too, because i see we will be passing our debts on to our children. host: the debt is in excess of 16.5 trillion, from the wall street journal this morning, two headlines - two a photograph of senator marco rubio, among those speaking on day one of the colin hanna conference taking place outside d.c., in maryland at national harbor, across from the potomac river. the texas senator rand paul was among those speaking yesterday. senator.ky [video clip] the gop has grown stale and covered.vered moss [applause] i don t think we need to name any names. our party is encumbered by an inconsistent approach to freedom. the new gop will embrace liberty in the economics and the personal sphere. [cheers and applause] have are going to republican party that can win, liberty needs to be the backbone of the gop. was promised today, senator rand paul. we will continue our coverage of the conference today. donald trump, mitt romney, and mitch mcconnell of among those speaking. and the house republican leader eric cantor. the front page of the new york times looks at the death toll in syria as that country marks its second year of civil war. the death toll in excess of 70,000. from the washington post to and from usa today two more phone calls. valerie, a democrat from new hampshire. caller: how are you? i have listened to your caller is especially when it comes to social security. was 15.d working when i i did not retire until 67. so i did not get any medicare or anything like that until after i was 67. since i was 67. when i went to social security, is the last three years of work. if you worked four years but they only account the last three years to determine how much you are going to get. this year i am getting $18 less because of insurance. get everymuch do you month? month, i get $1,000 a that is it. $880 for my pension. but the pension insurance went up $45. bluecross blueshield. plus, they cut services. if i need a mammogram, they will only cover me two days. host: so what is your take about the debate in washington about the changed cpi, for social security recipients, short or long term? caller: i am not for it. host: thanks for the call. kerrey has this point. , last call is from ohio. christie is on the phone. good morning. let me ask you, the head by from usa today, rob portman announcing he supports gay marriage, in part because he supports his family situation. his son came to him and said that he was gay. what do you think of that? caller: i have a gay son. i think they should just let them do what they want and treat them like everyone else. right now, i do not blame the unions are helping the workers at all. they are out for themselves. political parties, democrats and republicans and the president it doesn t matter who is president. big business out there just wants to corner green energy and get their ducks in a row. i think the political parties are a red herring to keep the american public with their heads turned so that big business can go ahead and do what they want to people. right now, i am unemployed. i was just fired from my job in the retail sector and my union has not done anything to help me, they have not protected me against unfair disciplines. i have been set up. i am so upset about that, and now they are making me sign a summit today in order to get their earned vacation pay. i have earned it, i should already get it, but they are making me sign a settlement that i will not sue. this is a unionized grocery store. this is the food workers union. they are not helping me in the least and they are all for the employer. banks for comment. you can contact us during the course of the morning, journal@c-span.org. damian paletta will be next to discuss what the house is looking at and where the budget debate goes next. and american by the numbers. we will look at the issue of mental health and drug use by american teenagers and young people, what it means for family, society, mental health providers. all of that is coming up. it is friday morning, march 15. we are back in a moment. what dolley madison has offered us is a model for governments that stresses civility and empathy. dolley madison is modeling this for us, she is not going to win. but we live to those generation because we need examples, role models. ,er way of conducting politics building bridges and not bunkers, is a model that has bequeathed us and one that we can use for the future. now available on our with website c-span.org. 1860,s story started in when congress finally acted, after many decades of difficulty with private contractor printers, in an effort to relieve their woes of waste and abuse. they created an entity to do their printing for them. became therinter government printing office. this document from april 1974 is the famous transcript of the white house tapes from the nixon and administration then for the investigation of the watergate burglary. this document was brought over there relate in the day there may late in the day. the entire transcript had to be prepared for the press and printed overnight. went up to0 copies the white house very early the following morning and then the several thousand copies for the congress went somewhat later in the day. this, i think, is the origin of the phrase expletive deleted. governmentory of the printing office. we want to welcome back to see spending in paletta, economic policy reporter for the wall street journal. the house budget committee taking of its own budget plan this week. the senate budget committee, along party lines, approving a budget by a vote of 12-10. out line with the house put forth, what the senate put forth, and what is next. aret: these proposals mission statements from each party, not expected to get much support from either side. the house republican plan would balance the budget over 10 years essentially by cutting spending across the board in a budget of the programs, everything from military spending, with over all medicare and medicaid, over all the food stamp program. it would essentially cut spending by close to five trillion dollars $5 trillion over 10 years to balance the budget. that would eliminate the deficit in the year 2023. democrats have put forth a proposal that would reduce the budget and not balanced the budget recombination of raising taxes by getting rid of unspecified tax loopholes and cutting spending in areas like farm subsidies and making changes to programs like medicare. democrats are pushing forward with their plan in the senate, republicans in the house, but right now there is no bipartisan plan emerging. we are in the slow, methodical budget reconciliation process where we will have to wait and see if bipartisan talks emerge. from the wall street journal moderate senate democrats that will play a role in the budget negotiations. the editorial writers begin with these words. bring the church bells and some white smoke host: it spells out some of the specifics in the patty murray plan. guest: we went through a crazy four years with the economy, the financial crisis, then the deficit nearly blew out. democrats are finally trying to get back in regular order in the senate. max baucus is an interesting figure, not part of the budget process, but the can and do any tax or intimate changes to programs like medicare without going through his senate finance committee. so he is sitting back and when you for these issues to come to him. he has been some tax reform hearings in the finance committee. he will certainly be one to watch as the process moves forward. host: the editorial talk about the politics. democrats only need 51 votes to pass a budget outline. we cannot wait to see which ones get lined up as potential sacrifices. host: the question is, they need 51 votes. they control 55, and can let a couple people go? republicans are struggling with the same issue. there is a lot of consternation in the house about whether any house republicans should be looking at these bipartisan talks. there is a lot of pressure from the left and right right now on the centrist lawmakers not to accept a deal. host: there is a caricature yesterday, someone reading the romney-ryan budget blueprint. you have congressman ryan coming in and saying, this is the new cover, the 2013 budget. essentially, not a big difference between last year s plan and this year. guest: the big difference is defense spending. it is about $100 billion more, romney wanted, from what ryan proposed a few days ago. that makes it easier for ryan to balance the budget by having lower levels of defense spending. if he was at the levels that mitt romney wanted, it would have been impossible to balance over 10 years. host: what about plan put forward by senate democrats and house members? guest: senate democrats won about $1 trillion in tax increases over 10 years. sure republican wilson and would back for them to figure out where those are. the white house wants to limit the value of certain tax breaks that you can take. also get ridant to of tax breaks, but they want to get rid of them and then lower tax rates as a substitute. host: the ryan plan takes into account the tax increases already approved by congress. guest: that is right. went intots that effect in january, about $600 billion which would help them balance the budget. the: any surprises from senate budget committee marked yesterday? guest: surprised she was able to hold the line. she could not afford to lose a single democrat. mark warner is a centrist democrat who has talked about bipartisan deals to reduce the deficit. they the senate budget also have to get e sanders. she got both of them. they are on the outer wings of the liberal bloc in the senate. now the process moves to the floor where it will be much easier to pass. host: i want to share with you two moments, first, from the senate budget committee, with a focus on the rising debt of increasing over $1 trillion over the last five years, although it will be below this year. this is the exchanges today with senator ron johnson, republican from wisconsin. in their debt figure, they include $800 billion, $300 billion that you don t, so that is $1.30 trillion. you have $24.70 trillion. your deficit reduction is $400 billion. until we can agree on basic numbers, how are we ever going to come to agreement in terms of policy differences? she got both of them. some of those are policy differences. they are not. we do not believe we need the disaster money where it is. we build those out of the baseline. the chairman s mark, to what senator keane said, what you are getting rid of the 1.2 in the sequester and replacing it, it is laid out in writing how we get to that. you want to compare apples to oranges. this is apples to apples. the debt, in 2023, according to cbo baseline, $24.70 trillion, yours is $24.30 trillion. host: amy paletta, what was going on there? confusingis a process. how the measure with the impact of these proposals will be over 10 years? democrats and republicans will be fighting for this for months. the issue people to take away from this is the the democratic plan has tax increases, for sure, a phased in over 10 years. the republican plan has no new tax increases. that is really the flashpoint. correct myself. and growing.on and the debt ceiling had been set a certain level. now they have uncapped it until may 16. the government can continue to burn as much debt as they need to finance the government through may, and that a couple more months, as they use a murder to measures at the treasury department, but we will close we will be close to $7 trillion by the end of the year. host: you can contact us here or send usc-span.org a tweet to twitter.com/cspanwj. the house has passed a budget resolution through the committee, no problem. then it will go to the senate floor, their budget resolution. both of these things will be happening next week. i think there will be more interest on the house side. the republican caucus in the house is a little less predictable, let s put it that way, than the senate democratic groups. if they can keep this budget resolution and get it through the house floor, then we can begin the process where the senate democrats and house republicans meet in conference and try to iron out the differences. that will be difficult but the process that needs to take place if they want to get a budget deal this year. host: the senate democratic plan raises taxes on the wealthy and businesses. house republican plan that eliminates the affordable care act. is even likely to happen? repealing the affordable care act guest: repealing the affordable care i ve seen as tough as the president have to sign off on it. they could make changes to the law, i am not going to rule out the possibility, on the tax increases side. it is hard to tell. speaker boehner made clear that they are still they are definitely not willing to accept new taxes. mitch mcconnell in the senate has in the same thing. the democrats insist that that must be in any deal. we will have to wait to see if one side flanges or if they come up with some sort of tax reform mechanism that allows both sides to claim victory. host: that interview is available online. with speaker sits down the new york times. claim thatfirmed his republicans will not support any additional tax hikes, indicating we already give the president a tax hike. i want to mention this politico had done from this morning. guest: republicans have seized the moment. democrats seem to be planning cliff during the fiscal tops. bell americans say, democrats, you have your tax increases, let s focus on spending cuts. republicans seem to be manning them that message managing that message well right now. host: our guest is damian paletta this morning. theou are listening on radio, here are the phone lines. 3881.licans, 202-585- democrats, 202-585-3880. $975 billion in targeted cuts with regard to health care, military, other programs. it also raises $975 billion in new revenues from closing closing tax loopholes. $100 billion in stimulus spending focusing on job training and infrastructure. house republican plan has $1.80 trillion in savings from the repeal of the health care law. it leaves $1 trillion in automatic cuts as a result of sequestration. it includes $962 billion in cuts from agriculture subsidies and food stamps, reduces money for medicaid and changes to medicare. $800 billion in savings from interest as the debt comes down. $249 billion in discretionary spending cuts. guest: that is right. things to watch our medicare, medicaid, and the tax portion. those tend to be the most polarizing on capitol hill where lawmakers are dug in the most. there is major financial impact with any of this issues if they are changed. one thing that is interesting, we are not talking about social security, possibly the biggest part of the budget. if you try to make changes to the social security, the voter backlash can be of enormous. the white house has tiptoed to say they will accept some changes in social security in the way that inflation is measured. democrats have put on the table. host: speaker boehner said that he once the president to give specifics on entitlement reform, where the money will come from. has the would have been made in that area? guest: they have been a little bit vague. they want to get $400 billion in the changes to savings from medicare and medicaid. the have not specified how that would work. we will be watching the week of april 8 when they put forward their new budget for the fiscal year. there will have to be more specific of their tax and spending plans. the: one more point from president as he wraps up three days of meetings on capitol hill. he met with house democrats and told minnesota democrat keith ellison to calm down, republicans will not go along with a tax increase, some do not worry about entitlement reform. i am paraphrasing. guest: 1 in the we have noticed in the white house s message, it will not bend over backward for a deal. if they cannot get the tax increases they want, they will walk away and be satisfied with deficit0 trillion in reduction they ve already secured. the white house does not seem anxious to do a deal if they cannot get what they want. host: bill is with us from raleigh, north carolina. welcome to the program. thank you. question about these important things you are discussing, trade-offs. sometimes trivial things ring true. one of the people said it would take 51 votes to pass a budget bill in the senate. i thought, maybe 58, 59 would pass. if there was a tie at 50, we have a vice-president who would break that tie, unless they have other procedures. could you explain that? isst: one thing that interesting about the process. discussing, trade-offs. sometimes trivial things ring true. one of the people said it would take 51 votes to passyou need 6a filibuster, the resolution does not. you would think, if they had gone with the proposal that patty murray put forward, if they had come with a more bipartisan proposal, this may have been and products sold its down the road. they could get 75 votes, democrats and republicans. they are staying with the democrat-focused bill. it will probably squeak by. house republicans will do the same thing in the house. host: is sequestration here to stay until the end of september? guest: it depends on the impact and how much of a pinch lawmakers feel. we are hearing a lot of agencies, local municipal agencies word about how they will manage the cuts. when the defense furloughs begin in april, that is when we could possibly see a lot more consternation about the impact, because there will be a 20% pay cut for a lot of military employees. host: here in the d.c. area, the metro will feel an $800 million cut. no tours to the white house, some potential staff layoffs on capitol hill. guest: it seems like as this process continues, it will be impossible to just a job cuts without major changes. whether that is reduced hours for operation like metro, stop running trains during certain times, obviously, layoffs will have a huge impact on people s ability spend money. maybe that affects economic growth. we do not know what the impact will be. it will take some weeks and months to play out. host: from one of our viewers guest: this has to do with social security and whether it is on or off balance sheet. richmond,b is in virginia. republican line. caller: good morning. this is not what america is about. republicans compromise, tax come the, and sequester in march, democrats would not do any incoming reform. that is not what america is about. 1994, we had bill clinton. we had a republican congress. they were political enemies in we balance the budget with 22 million new jobs, we had a to under $20 billion surplus, and it was a great economy with bipartisanship. it is very silly that obama would not compromise. it is too little too late when he says he wants to compromise now, the sequester has happened. i am 12 years old. i do not want to pay off this debt. if we do not do anything about medicare, the benefits are going to stop. we are going to have hyperinflation. host: you answered part of my question because you sound young. we now know that you are up altars old. you were not even here worm when bill clinton and the permits were hammered out the budget negotiations. why so interested in this topic as a young age? caller: i got interested in politics two years ago. it started with the affordable care act, obamacare. it.eacher said i interested. i supported mitt romney in the elections, begrudgingly. we really have no conservative movement anymore. we have not had many conservative candidates. john mccain, mitt romney, who were republican by name, but it did not work. caller: i am amazed at age 12 age 12 youamazed, at sound very smart. jewish i go to a private school in virginia. host: any interest in running for public office down the road? caller: i hope. host: who are your political heroes? caller: new gingrich. i know eric cantor. i go to school with his nephews. michele bachmann. and alec herman cain. host: how did you become so smart on domestic politics? i do: i do not caller: not know, i read a lot of articles. voters have of 1/10th of the knowledge that he does, and they can vote. host: when you were called, could you call and and, on that? host: you made our morning. thank you. curtis is next from texas. can you talk jacob? cannot!no, i [laughter] and does not make any difference they do, it will come back to the middle-class. it always has, it always will. we will be the one to bail the government out. they let big business go to the cayman islands, they let them put their money over there so they do not have to pay taxes. and yet, they buy other business in the u.s., they buy the smaller businesses, and we will end up with one big corporation and we will pay what they want. thank you. i enjoy c-span and watching early every day. guest: curtis raises an excellent point. it is almost impossible to see how they can reduce the deficit and restructure these programs over time without having a major impact on the middle-class, both on the taxes they pay and benefits they received, particularly when they turn 66 and retired. almost impossible to see how the middle class can stay away from major changes. host: will we have a budget on time by november 1? guest: that is a good question. this seemed to be picking their fight now. the biggest question right now is the debt ceiling in july and august. that can be the next powder keg. both sides seem to be shying away from a showdown on or funding the government. they did not want to risk a government shutdown. that could blow up in the face of both sides. that is a safe bet. that ceiling is a big risk. host: if you are joining us on c-span radio, our guest in damian paletta, who covers the budget and economic policy issues for the wall street journal. with us on the democratic line. caller: can you hear me ok? can hear you just fine. caller: nobody is talking about jobs. we need to be focusing on jobs and cutting the budget. the only we will get out of the situation is people producing in these income and paying taxes. we are worried about cutting back. if you re looking at europe, with their austerity programs, they are going in the hole. we do not much to do that. we want to move forward. we had an election in this country and the american people said that we wanted to go along with a democratic plan to rescue our economy. we are still fighting with republicans about pre-election issues, and we should be tried to follow what the american people want. the american people want us to produce jobs and raise taxes to the point where we can balance the deficit, and not cut programs to put this in a position where we were before. i am asking the american people to just we cannot do anything. we have to wait until congressional election take place. this we can replace congressional majority and maybe we can get something done. the way things are now, they guest: the american people want abies of government right now. they think that as the best way they are credited compromise on these issues. we might be seeing a bit of it, and jobs markets. are feeling more comfortable being aggressive in hiring. it is amazing that the stock market is at an all-time level. it might make you think the economy is getting overheated. time will tell. there seems to be a division between state of the economy, stock markets, and the rest of the economy. host: jacob is creating a lot of interest. let me go back to the wall street journal, quoting ron johnson indicating guest: it has been this big divisive issue, democrats want to raise taxes. republicans want them to dick republicans say they just want to freeze taxes for spending. can the democrats did some taxes as part of the deal that the white house accepts? we look at what the senate democrats are putting forth and the house republicans. we welcome carl from jacksonville, texas on the republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. the thing that bothers me about our government is the lack of transparency. we hear so much about how we are when the cut out all of the loopholes but nothing is ever mentioned. i cannot know if they think we are too stupid to understand what those loopholes would be and what they would mean. it s just really frustrates me. cuts, i thinket it should start with the politicians and let them live in government housing like they expect everyone else to that is being helped out by the government. those fancy of places to live and if you want to get something done give them food and water and put them in a room together but no showers until they can get this thing ironed out. i know that is pretty drastic but these are drastic times that require drastic measures. everyone would launch on c-span because no one would want to go near the stinky politicians. both parties are being very vague about what loopholes the woodcut. the reason they do that is because they do not wish to say they will eliminate mortgage deduction interests for example, which is popular among homeowners. you might have to make changes to those. they are being careful because they know they would unleash a firestorm of interest groups coming up to the hill. host: you can watch the senate budget hearing committees on c- span or. ranking democrat is chris van colorado of maryland. the budget calls for dropping cuttingtax rate to 29%, the rate for millionaires by more than one-third will holding other revenues have constant. just last fall the non-partisan to policy center did reduce the top tax rate from 35% to 38 to 28%. that would inevitably raise the income tax burden on those making under two at thousand dollars per year. this budget proposal, which provides even bigger tax cuts to millionaires, will raise the tax burden on middle income families by an average of $2,000. host: as you listen to the congressman, the lines are pretty clearly drawn. is there any room for compromise? guest: we thought both parties could get out of their corners after the election and come to some sort of an agreement. the changesee to medicare and medicaid. we have to give a little time to see if it continues because the republicans seem to honestly appreciate his outreach. they are not negotiating, they are suing each other out. it is going to take some time to see if that continues. they do run up against this debt ceiling deadline when the cannot keep talking beyond that point. to have to essentially put some stuff on paper. on theathy is next independent line. good morning. i listen to republicans come on and say that is their hawk. it is hawks that serve their purpose because bill clinton balanced the budget back in the 90s. from member you have two republican presidents before that. there was never any mention of balancing the budget. after 2011 there were spending cuts. nobody was discussing alternate revenues. they didn t do all they promised to do. now they say there is no more revenue. now have to deal with more spending. i like your guest to explain to the american people what was cut in 2011 to the spending and why there wasn t any revenue. thet: 2011 came right after 2010 midterm elections, which republicans consider a huge sweeping victory. the president didn t have much leverage because he was right up against the debt ceiling and that is why all this that is what they accepted the spending cuts and no revenue. one thing he benefited from was the soaring economy. you cannot overstate how much that helps. that brings in all of this tax revenue without having to make major changes to the tax code. that is the soul that is something the president hasn t benefited from. host: here is another summary, courtesy of the new york times, we already talked about sequestration but they pointed out on additional spending cuts, under the democratic plan, there are none. under the republican plan, 1.8 trillion dollars in repealing the health care law. the democrats proposing $100 billion in new stimulus spending. republicans propose no spending. there is this on social security the democrats, no changes. the republicans requiring the president and congress to submit plans increasing the trust fund. guest: security has enough money tocontinue full benefits 2036 with 10,000 people turning 65 everyday and the number of people entering this program and continue to accept far more benefits than they have paid out, there is going to come a time when changes have to be made to social security. the sooner you make the changes the less dramatic they are going to be down the road. reticence onl inside. from georgia, democrat s line. caller: i want to say thank you for taking my call. i want to give some revisionist history to the young man from virginia. i ve watched you be the host for a long time. there were no votes for this budget. i am from georgia and i know newt gingrich did not cooperate with president clinton. when that vote came down i remember just like it was tested day, al gore broke the boat. he broke the tie as to the budget. republicans did not cooperate any more than they were with bill clinton than they are with obama. there was no cooperation. during the campaign, everyone wanted to revise history. bill clinton has got no more president obama is getting. let us get it right. i hope we move on. one more thing before we move on. i am a retired firefighter. we over adjusted for this budget. the sequester is not going to hurt us. we adjusted to it. we will survive this thing. thank you so much. host: the mall for the call. guest: he raises good points. the clinton administration everyone acts like it was a lot of bipartisanship. they had several government shutdowns turn to clinton and attrition and they had a debt ceiling fight that made this one look like child s play. that went on for months. bob rubin had to be creative to the point where he said republicans were breaking the law and how he was buying time on the debt ceiling. there was brinkmanship. the lesson to learn from that was that this stuff is very hard. these are real issues that are right to the heart and minds of americans all over the country. we cannot expect them to just walk away from their principles and beliefs because they want a better deal. host: the bottom line is that president clinton and house republicans did put forward a balanced budget in the last three-four years. surpluse was a budget for george w. bush. guest: a lot of it had to do with the.com boom at the time. they make changes to welfare and other spending programs in a way that eliminated the deficit. it was something that was incredibly hard to do. from twitter the budget now passing the budget senate committee. michael is joining us from virginia, republican line. good morning. caller: my comment is in response to many of your callers to, and this morning, particularly to the gentleman from maryland who mentioned that voters last election voted for the democratic way of fixing our economy. i honestly think this is inaccurate. many americans are one issue of voters. what this administration has very carefully and successfully done was dividing the country. othere the latinos and communities voting for this program. you have the gay and other communities voting for their gay marriage issue. successfully dividing the country, that won the election for president barack obama in my opinion. if someone wants to watch too look to a true measure of the successful steps of the obama administration have done to our economy does look at the election of 2010. republicans regained scenes in a way that has not been done in 50 years. people are not very happy about this far left liberal that is leading us to this to destruction. thank you from the call. just a point about the clinton budget, i know the difference about this debt crisis and when bill clinton was in office our economy was not as fragile. guest: we have had external shocks with the situation in europe and japan. we re still recovering from a financial crisis. the unemployment is still very high. that does make a lot harder to focus on austerity and reducing the deficit when you have so many people out of work. they cannot pay their taxes, they are holding back the full recovery. host: press secretary j conti credit for a charge the said a percentage of the gdp, the debt is lower than it was when barack obama first took office. what was he referring to? guest: it was the debt or deficit, possibly. yearbly the year to deficit. in 2010 the deficit was 1.4 trillion dollars. that is the gap between government spending. this year we are expecting $860 billion. 546% of gdp. or 6% of gdp. the spending reductions that both parties have been active since 2011 the line host: our last call comes from nebraska, good morning. good morning. i am listening to all of these people calling in. i want to tell everyone that i used to be a democrat. the problem i see now is that all of the states that are run cannot balance the budget. they are considering a gutsy. the republicans have their problems too. that whenot realize they hear millions, billions, and trillions. there is a difference. goes by ineconds less than twelves in less than 12 days. 1 billion seconds takes 30 years to go away. and one trillion seconds will go back to the stone age in the 29,718. if people cannot understand that we are going to be just like europe. host: will get a response. guest: the states have been really desperate, particularly california. we are seeing states make a lot of progress. virginia is doing very well. california has a lot of progress in their fiscal situation. both democrats and republicans have different strategies. that is something lawmakers on capitol hill are one to watch. what can they learn from? what didn t work that they should avoid? host: with the republican plan announced by congressman paul ryan and now the democratic plan are these votes starting points for each prospective party on how they move forward or are they purely political documents that will be used against one another in 2014? guest: i think they are starting point. paul ryan has moved his proposal from what it had been. indidn t say it was his line the sand. democrats declined we to see what president obama proposes. they seem to be earnestly willing to negotiate in the negotiations but the opposite production. reduction.ficit host: his work is available online at wsj.com. thank you for joining us. coming up, america but the numbers. today we are going to focus on many families mental health and drug use among america s young people, teenagers, preteens and young adult. what it means for families and health-care providers and what some of the signs are. continues journal in a moment. the simple fact is we are all getting older together and we are not the same our fertility rates have dropped dramatically and we are beginning to have an inverted pyramid that makes our challenges, as it relates to entitlement and social security, even greater. slow developing country have, for decades, low fertility rates. japan and europe particularly. china is starting to feel the impact of its one child policy. we are better off than the rest of the world. unlike most of the world we have to deal withe way this demographic time bomb. the path that we can take is to allow for a strategic reform of our immigration laws so we can bring young aspirational people that will rebuild the demographic pyramid to make our entitlements system secure and jump-start our economy in a way that will directly impact economic growth. u.s. economic growth and immigration policy. former flutter former florida gov. jeb bush on booktv this weekend on c-span2. not paying public is aboution to is there is 10 million people, the people who watched c-span, fox news, msnbc, cnn. voters.30 million most people get a lot of what is going on in politics is background noise from the mainstream media. people forming an opinion of romney and obama fox news doesn t reach most of those people. it has a loyal audience. o reilly, gets 3 million people per night. barnes sundayth fred night at 8. washington journal continues. here to help as to the discussion is peter delany. good morning. and colonel elspeth cameron ritchie. he is a veteran of the u.s. army. thank you for being with us. let us talk about how big of a problem is it? guest: the problem of mental illness is a huge one. especially in young adults or late teenager is you see presentations of manic depressive disorder, also known as bipolar. you see schizophrenia and depression. busey a lot of substance abuse. the interplay is especially problematic. host: we are dividing our phone lines to attract those of you who are interested in this issue. if you are a parent or teacher, the number to call is202-585- 3880. if you re in the mental health field, the number to call is 202-585-3881. for all others the number is 202-585-3882. you conducted a survey that had 30,000 respondents. what did you learn? youth 12-17 continue to have substantial rates of major depressive episodes. 25 havedults 18 to reported rates of mental illness, suicidal thoughts, and substance abuse. is co occurring dependence pretty significant. the other thing we found that stood out when we pulled the slides for the study is that the mills are still more likely to report mental illness than males are. host: at what age should be with legs begin to go up for parents, counselors, teachers? guest: it is hard to say a specific age. mantle of this can present any time in the life cycle. but we are doing is we are recognizing even in children more. certainly the early teens is when you often see difficulties that are emerging. the teens is often when people are starting to use substances. one of the tremendous problems here in d.c. and across the nation is the merging of these new synthetic marijuana as and amphetamines known as k2, or spice, or bath salts. sometimes these are precipitating what may be underneath all ready. we see psychosis with the use of the substances. host: of the span of eight years you have looked at the age is between seve12 and 17. guest: what we saw was a rate of 13.3% of females and 5% of males reported having symptoms of a major depressive episode at least once in their lifetime. by 2011 we are seeing that females have dropped to 12.1 and the mails to 4.5. a significant drop for females from 2005. for males it is not a significant change. there are still some stability in those numbers. it is still quite high. that is a fair chunk of the 17 year-old population. host: what these numbers tell you? guest: they tell us it is politically important to screen, recognize, and treat mental illness in teenagers and young adults. this has been an overlooked population. we are doing more and more with school mental-health programs. that is a really important component. if you are having difficulties being treated before a child s suicide host: we will go back to the issue of suicide. this chart gives you a sense of young people in america and the relatively high rate of serious mental illness. 18 or older with the rates are among men and women. it begins to stabilize in midlife. why the drop for older people? the things we are charting is that it is starting people. for older this is true of all of the behavioral health problems. have a5 years olds myriad of problems. these of the groups that report the highest level of drug kills of drug use. how you correlate serious mental health and violence? guest: serious mental health issues, which is usually either schizophrenia or manic depression, can have posttraumatic stress disorder and depression but those are less correlated with violence. what you often have is severe psychotic disorders. difficulties in thinking, hearing voices, having dilutions. those can be associated with violence. it does not mean these people are more likely to go out into a shooting. it is usually disorganized violence that might be walking out into the street and urinating. it might be taking a swing is somebody. we certainly see the slow level of violence in our patients with severe mental illness. here in washington d.c. we have a large homeless population. severe mental illness. host: earlier this month epilogue was titled a blog was titled, thinking the unthinkable. she said of what shetion told the house committee. he is not a bad kid and neither are the millions of other children that have mental disorders in this country. we continue to manage mental illness through the criminal but did it through the criminal justice system. the only way loving parents can get access to much-needed services is by having their children charged with a crime. my son michael entered the juvenile justice system just one month after his 11th birthday. while on probation he received an array of social services, including therapy and psychosocial rehabilitation. once he completed his probation those services went away. i thought those the only mother in america who is living in this kind of fear. i learned i am far from alone. parents like me live in all kinds of fear. we live in fear of stigma. my child may be bullied for being different. sll i be blamed for my child explosive behavior? we live in fear of that unpredictable behavior. host: that is the story of liza long. the fear family is facing and the reality of political budget cuts. guest: my heart goes out to her and to parents with severe parents of children with severe mental illness. there are good organizations out there. it certainly is an issue at times. statems of budget cuts, governments all of the country are being hit by budget cuts both by the sequestration and prior budget cuts. they often do take out social services. in washington d.c. we are relatively lucky. we provide a lot of services. she taught at the interaction of the criminal-justice system. it is true that many with mental illness to become part of the criminal justice system. we are doing a lot with the criminal justice system in order to try to keep people out of it, such as teaching officers how to work with the mentally ill. are mental health diversion courts and other things to do. her story was very poignant in that the only way she could get services was having a son in the criminal justice system. host: she is now the chief medical officer for the d.c. department of mental health and peter delany, associated with the mental and substance abuse administration. us from newing york. good morning. caller: good morning. i have two points. what are the effective strategies to reduce teen drug use? i know about the d.a.r.e. program isn t effective. they use scare tactics. is there a healthy way to use drugs? it seems that people have only been invested in some type of substance or alcohol or natural drug. does the experts have a sense on a normal healthy way that this might be used? host: let me turn to dr. delany. when the track and substance- abuse guest: what we are seeing is this is the overlay between major depressive episodes and substance dependence. factor.u see is a high ere is aally says ther eis correlation. essentially you re seeing the interaction of two kinds of problems, mental-health and drug independence. one can lead to the other and sometimesleads to they are just the way they happen. sometimes people become mentally ill and they try to medicate. or sometimes they start medicating themselves or something but it can lead to a minor and serious problem later. host: do you want to respond? guest: his question is a great one. how can we keep kids from taking drugs? we have been trying to do that for 50 years now. one of the things we have to do is talk about drugs, and especially these newer agents that i mentioned. they are so the goal in the beni places and often people do not realize how serious the consequences can be. i feel like a lot of people who come in with psychosis he points out you cannot just scare kids away. people will not believe you. to the first question i think i would be the drugs are. in terms of the second part of it, is there a healthy way to use medication? in general i would say no. p is notoriously bad. next we will go to belinda in arkansas. what kind of nurse are you? caller: i am a practical nurse. thank you for taking my call. found working in the mental- health field that a lot of the treatment that our patients are getting are not effective. isy are brought in this something that needs to be addressed. it seems the doctors and administration of these hospitals are only interested in keeping these patients just for the insurance they can get out of them. they are not interested in treating them and getting them the right medications for the problems. at the way i see these patients come in and even get worse with the treatment. there sis this whole system of mental treatment in hospitals and all the different areas that needs to be improved. they need to stop worrying about making so much money and get down to taking care of these people again. it just breaks my heart. host: let me ask you, based on your experience what needs to be done to successfully treat these mentally ill patients? looking for ism for them to really take these patients and get down to the basics of how this started with them. is there problems in the family itself? get some of these kids out of these families where there are no parenting skills where the parents do not care and they are on drugs. it has to do with the family itself. for the older people who literally have been sick for many years the system is so broken. they need to go back to the basics. host: let me get your response and then we will talk about the numbers. guest: there are a number of things i could respond to. our treatments are not perfect. that has improved dramatically over the last 30 years. there are new santa 8 new into a psychotic agents. all of these medications have side effects. we do need to work on the improvement of treatment. medications and psychotherapy there are new or complementary alternative treatments out there. more research dollars to get there. another thing she said about blaming the parents i think we have to be very careful there. parents for years felt they were responsible for the child hospital illness. what we are seeing is this combination of genes and environment. it is not the parents fault. by and large i do not want to be planning to parents. mental illness is pernicious, it is common, and it is treatable. we will explain that the red is male, the blue is female. care, look at outpatient inpatient care, education, and medical, please explain these numbers. by far the largest is outpatient care. that is followed by education. you often see a combination of all of these together. outpatient is still preferable approach. there is inpatient mental health treatment. there are other things that are happening. there are a full list of about 20. the other thing to pay attention to in this numbers you are seeing females for education and counseling are getting a little bit more. it is not a significant difference in these charts. thatnk the important thing we know is that this is being provided by a number of different places. we have social workers in the community. we also have psychiatrists and psychologists. there is a large number of professionals from the different deals providing these types of services. host: if you are just turning in our listening to c-span radio, today we are looking at the issue of mental health and drug use. our next call is mary from good morning. a lot of what is not g addressed is that what percentage is have you found contribute? i think it is a high percentage. teachers and counselors will need to have better support in dealing with that? i cannot tell you how many counselors i have come across. i am going to have dr. ritchie respond to your calls specifically. one of the charts looks at outpatient. and numbers for are the adults 18 and older. what we have here is looking at of these kinds of care that are provided for adults. adults are1.5% of receiving medication. p a t a 32 million people receiving some kind of care for their mental illness. host: does that number surprise you? guest: it does not. mental illness is very common. oft prevalence rates are 20% the population for depression alone. the stigma around mental illness is still quite strong. the more people who are getting to treatment depression especially is a very treatable illness, as is posttraumatic stress disorder. the more people that can be screened and intervene early can be the better. host: what percent of mental health issues are related to alcohol or drug use? guest: i will just say a lot. color out say the occurrence of middle of this and substance-abuse is significance. for the youth did a much more likely to have a depressive episode diagnosis if you are also dependent on substances. sometimes substance abuse may come first and it may trigger an underlying disorder and it may lead to depression or some other illness. in other cases people may start having problems early on and self medicate. harmonist joining us from california. good morning korea good morning. i have been following this for 15 years. theber of congressmen number of contributions from the mental health industry is incredibly high. they have created a ponzi scheme to milk the congress of its funds. if you ask the victims of mental health if they have been cured the majority of them have not. the young children have committed these crimes are shooting other people, have been on psychotropic drugs. this mental health industry must be brought about. guest: a lot of points in there, some of which i do not agree with at all. i think that by and large people in mental health are trying very hard to try to store and make people s lives better. violence people with severe mental disorders are more likely to commit violence. .t tends to be lower level we have heard of the shootings that do seem to be in committed by a delusional believes. delusional police can be dangerous. that comes to the necessity of picking them up and treating them before they go out and do these horrendous acts. leg orf you break a become sick and you re feeling better after the bone is healed you can see the result. when it comes to mental health, how you measure a cure rate? guest: we do not track a cure rate, especially with serious mental illness. dot we do try to track is people do better? other symptoms reduced? are they able to function more effectively? are they able to be with their families so are they mitt taking their medication? there is not as a surly a cure rate but what we see is people getting into treatment and helping them recover their lives. we treat people with diabetes or hypertension. we do not cure that necessarily. we do try to reduce people s wait. peoplere often diseases live with for the rest of their lives. we teach them to take their medication, to exercise. and keep their health better and keep them functioning for logger. we do not track cure rates. in substance use we see the same thing. we cannot attract or rates retract recovery. track cure rates, we track recovery. host: marked from the no. virginia, good morning. as a parent i think our country is we have two experts there with you this morning. last gentleman who called from new jersey, this is a gentleman at the grassroot level. he said some things that i know to be true. the person from arkansas touched on some key institutes. this seems to be the key disconnect. the ones to live with it every single day see some plausible issues with it. dr. ritchie, you mentioned that it is the environment. as a parent i realized that it is my responsibility to try to garner and control the environment in which my children live. host: had even successful on that part? caller: i get a lot of compliments from the school system. youe quite honest with there is also a social issue when it comes to ethnicity. host: what is your advice to other parents? caller: here is my advice. all of my children are doing super in school. what hurts my heart is when i see other children who are being theirchanged only because parents aren t as involved as me and my wife. we were at a local basketball tournament where a fan of mine a friend of mine was the principle of a title once school. out of all of those schools in northern virginia, his school won the number one road number one award for a reading program competition. the two top leaders would have been identified as problem children. they were the two top leaders. host: thank you for sharing your story. guest: you are a great parent. i appreciate it. that is the key thing we found in looking at research and families is that when the kid says their parent is involved, when the kid says the apparent to some positive messages, when the kid says the parent says, i cannot approve of drugs, they do much better. are ak that parents critical component of all of recovery. when things go bad and kids start to have problems, it usually does not come on it is not a button that flips on. they become challenged as well. sometimes there are parents that have problems of their own. we believe need to be paying attention to screening people early. everybody needs to be part of the solution to this problem. it is not just parents or the mental health system. it is the school, churches, everybody part of the system trying to provide some sense where the kids and to young attention and have someplace to go. host: another set of numbers, and the mental and illness any mental illness from 18 to older, in a 30%. guest: that is 45.6 million people. that is not only serious mental illness such as bipolar and six bipolar and schizophrenic it is also a major depressive episodes and anxiety disorders. the thing you re pointing out that is striking is that almost 30% of adults 18 to 25 are having some problems with any kind of mental illness. it is a combination of seriousness of l.f. of serious mental illness. our next caller is from pennsylvania. caller: good morning. i want to bring up one factor have not discussed yet. pregnant between ages 16 and 25, i want to ask about the pay from single-parent households. host: what have you seen in your experiences? caller: 90% came from single- parent households with history of emotional and physical abuse. it is conditional because of their environment. many mothers get kicked out of their house. they have problems getting on food stamps. he and the thing is i want to know the percentage of those that are sexually active. about how manyk people are experiencing depression because of their theirty because of sexual activity. host: thank you for putting those issues on the table. there is rich literature showing higher rates of depression in people who are thet, postpartum postpartum can be severely severe. that is a combination of hormones and other stresses going on. we also know that is an area where you can intervene. a little invention goes a long way in terms of the mother and baby. if you treat the depression, both the mother and the baby to a lot better. depression often leads to a suicide or suicidal thoughts. guest: what we have found is that 8.5% of adults 18 and older i am sorry, 8.5 million. older hadn of 18 or serious thoughts of suicide in the last year. dc adults 18 to 25, those numbers are much larger. population that has a lot of compared of problems. about one. two million about 1.2 million actually attempted suicide. i would say there is an occurring problem here. people who are using drugs there is a co occurrence of suicidal thoughts. your i am going to keep thoughts. from maryland caller: has anyone taken a look between the relationship and how the society has stripped the children from their youth? we had someup camps, music programs, other things to keep the kids occupied. wife tried to struggle with summer camp, which is only a week. we have taken the youth away from these children host: you put an important issue on the table and we will give you time to respond. guest: 1 of the things we are seeing is a much more reliance form. per se seeing less of the socialist committee of the social community support. is that good or bad? i do not think we know yet. i have kids and they are very connected digitally. i think it has some pros and cons to it. host: our final chart dealing with the present episodes. with depressive episodes. guest: this is major depression in the last year. what you re seeing is that females have a higher level. we are talking about 15.2 million people per year report that they have a major depressive episode at least once in the last year. one of the questions i am always looking at is why are we females recording why are females reporting at a higher rate?
within the myth of ritual. but we have a little time today because we ve just got notes, we re going to look at symbols, we re going to look at rituals, and then we re going to look at symbol religion, another very interesting form of myth. but we ve got some time today, so let s do what we ve had a good time doing in the past, which is some beliefs and believers sightings - anything that you ve seen over the past couple of weeks that this class has brought out to you. that s one of the main things that we re looking at in here. well after 15 weeks are over or however long we re together and well after your tuition check has bounced, we want you to see some of this activity, some of the things we ve described in the class, going on. yeah, janet? well, last sunday was the summer solstice. and it just so happened i was up early enough to watch the sunrise. on a sun rise bike ride, and i was skating in the evening when i watched the sunset, so it was a little, just a very simple ritual of being aware of the whole span on that special day. we ve talked a bit about earth s sort of spirituality, and indeed, you re so right. i get a special feel for the solstice - this is the longest day of the year. it s also odd because every day now gets a little bit shorter, and that also strikes me, when we get to december 21st or whatever, it s a bummer, but every little day is getting a little brighter. so i don t know whether i m a pessimist or an optimist in this. but that s the kind of thing we re talking about. but in this case, it fits in with our nature theme - but that nature, natural events, strong kinds of spontaneous ritual activity. yeah, i feel the same way about that. sure. my parents celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary and renewed their vows. and a little aside, which played right into the hands of this class, i was flipping channels and they were doing a documentary on, of all things, pro wrestling. and they said the - why pro wrestling was so popular today is the lack of myth and ritual in today s society. ah! where s my videotape! i couldn t believe it! ah, man! that s a copyright violation! but it is so true. and the comments - i used to have students do some papers on these sorts of things. pro wrestling is a remythologization - i can t even say it, but you get the idea - remythologizing the world in a mythically, ritually impoverished world, and that s got to be why it is. i mean, everybody knows it s - well, if dennis rodman is going to be out there wrestling with carl malone, we know that we ve got an integrity problem there. but we re talking here about the fact that like with marvel comics and superman and the star wars that we long for this kind of mythic world, this mystery, this magic, and we even go to these extreme lengths. that s a wonderful question, and the last set of notes that we re going to do in this class is on something called civil religion, which is a term that academics fight over. but basically, civil religion is the kind of myth that validates the social order, and i think we ve mentioned this in class before. when we think of civil religion, we think of the holidays that we go through during the year that give people a sense of identity and unity as a nation, and to see how that functions. and in many ways, if we lose that mythic element, we get something like pro wrestling. but it fits in. yeah, annette? i went to a funeral sadly, a couple weeks ago, and interesting, it was at a catholic church, and about 85 percent of the people that were there were not catholic, which made for a very interesting ceremony, because although it was very sad and very ritual experience, it almost felt not as full because the people that were there that were catholic were doing all the catholic things, where everyone else sort of seemed like in this kind of space land - like, what do i do? what does this mean? and the person was catholic, but his family wasn t, and he had converted at some point, and it was just interesting to watch how something as strong as catholicism didn t have that full strength - in the ritual part; not the funeral itself, but in the ritual part. you have to - i mean, that s one of the things that i brought up about living your myths and living your ritual - they have to be alive; you can t just be intellectual about it. it has to be something that moves you. and we ve all been in that situation, when you go to a religious organization and you re not particularly familiar with it, and you can t get into it - stand up, do i stand up now, do i sit down, do i kneel, and you re kind of looking around and you can t focus. i had something that happened to me like - well, the other day along those lines; i can t remember it off the top of my head. but you re out of sync. oh, i know what it was. when we were wandering around the holy land - the church of the holy sepulcar, one of the most holy places in the wold - and rather than being drawn into that numinous experience, i have to be thinking, well, what am i going to say about this in one of those roll-ins for the beliefs and believers teleclass. and time and time again here i am in this incredible mythic, ritual base, a virtual fertile feel of a cauldron that bubbles up ritual and myth and whatever for so many traditions, and i m all focused on some kind of professional pursuit that doesn t allow me to enter into it. and i think sometimes when we go to a rite of passage, like a funeral, as you say, you can be thrown off if you re not comfortable with the mythic element. sure. my father passed away recently at home, in hospice care, and my son was 11 at the time, and the family was around. so i made it into a - i felt that way anyway - but we invoked a spiritual atmosphere there, and i used marianne williamson s book, illuminata, and read prayers out of that, and we sang spiritual songs - amazing grace, and we sat by him. and it was a beautiful experience, and something my son and myself carry with us, and a nice, wonderful way to say good-bye to my father. but usually, in our culture, death isn t accepted - it s shunned, it s put aside, you re in a hospital with the tubes and it s clinical. but my father knew he was dying - we knew he was dying - and we shared the passage there of his spirit together as a family. that s so touching, and so meaningful that you were able to step in and intuit how you go through this life of passage, and much more meaningful. it s a real troublesome thing - and these kinds of conversations that we ve had sort of informally bring out some key class themes - because myths and rituals are of course embodied in great religious traditions and are supposed to be meaningful to people, but if they re deadened, if they don t make sense, then you turn around and say, this is my family, this is my life, this was a person that i loved; i m going to intuit how i need to behave to step across that boundary and onto it. so yeah, that s. sure. i attended a wedding this weekend in kansas city, and i noticed a portion of the wedding where my cousin s mother, and the other family s mother, the groom s mother, they lit this candle and they said it would signifying unity between the two families, and it just stuck out with me with how much they bicker, these families and everything. it d be really great if a candle could do such a thing. yeah. we ve seen the candle, and we re going to go to the notes here in just a second to look at symbols, but symbols - again, symbols, myth, and ritual are symbolic vehicles; they re modes of expression. and the candle, i wish it could stop the bickering. i m going to get chris and then we ll get janet. well, speaking about candles, i attended my grandfather s birthday party, he was 78, and we couldn t fit 78 candles on the cake. and my cousin asked me why do we have birthday candles, and i struggled to find a myth to answer the question, so what i gave him, the candle story of mine was that each candle represents a year passed in your life, and that those are your burning those are your friends, those are your experiences, your family - and when you blow that out on your birthday cake, that s like putting the past behind you, and then i said you ve got to get a pinch to grow an inch. and i tried to make something up to sort of incorporate that yeah. that s pretty good. i find with young kids, they ask a lot of good questions - and we really need a rich myth and - even to make up some myths to explain the world around us. yes, and i m watching this, and my 11-year-old in particular, lilly, she s been secularized - she s getting a lot of science and a lot of math, and the world, you can watch it becoming secularized for her. at the same time, there s this magical little childlike part of her that wants to retain the magic. we talked about science in the other class, and science is such an important world-view and now, what, maybe 500 years old, depending on who s counting. but it s a very different way of seeing the world. the whole function is to explain physical phenomenon, and sometimes in explaining, you reduce things. it scares me about being an academic - that we spend 15 weeks trying to explain religion, and god forbid - i guess we can say god in religion class - god forbid that it reduces religion to something we can just put on the shelf. if anything, i d like to see it awake a certain sense of magic so that people continue on the journey. but that s neat. i think you did a good job with those candle - i ll have to remember that one. yeah, janet? i wanted to make a comment about her story about unity, because in our native american class, tom, i thought that that was his number one theme was unity. he kept saying it a lot. it was almost as if you listened to the dalai lama, his theme is compassion, and tom just kept talking about unity and unity of the peoples and unity of the families and the unity of all the different faiths systems and i thought that was very interesting that she mentioned that and that it was a big theme. well, let s not lose that one, too, because that is a classic religious impulse. we ve touched on it already, we ll see it throughout the semester, but this amazing human desire for - remember a part and apart? we re apart but we desire to be a part of something. so the quest for unity - we can t ever forget that the root - not that i m a great latin scholar - but the root of the word religion is something along the line to reunite, to bring together. and sadly, then, it s often a very divisive force, but certainly, that s what we keep seeing over and over again. yeah, donna? there s something that always comes back to me from my childhood. i was raised episcopalian, and palm sunday with the frond, the palm frond which was twisted into a cross, and we all treasured that. but of course, the story of strewing the palm fronds in front of jesus as he rode into bethlehem - i mean jerusalem but it takes so little to be so meaningful, and a child is so trusting, that it just imprints - i mean, this is many years later and i m still talking about it. yes. you re so right, and that s a great leap into our graphics, which we better leap away if we re going to get to them, but it s the power of symbols. symbols. so i wanted to start out here and move through our material on symbolism if we could, because that s what we are as humans - we are symbol creators. and just as the palm becomes a symbol for something, again, that is within the myth, that then is used ritually, so we re staying with our dimensional triangle here - that s what we want to look at, is different types of symbols, and the way that symbols come in and well, we would not have myth, we would not have anything along these lines - a ritual - if we didn t have symbolic process. so let s go through some of these graphics here, and as always, ask away, make comments, raise your hand. we re just going to move through these notes in this class. i don t even think i have a roll-in, sad to say - we might have to sing a song or something. looking for more symbols? oh, yes. more symbols. the world cup on sunday, or whatever day it was - iran and the united states, the hostility between the two countries, and the teams came out, the iranian players - did you see that? each with a bouquet for each one of the players - the american players. and then the american players came forth with banners and gave each one of the iranian players. i thought that really was a tremendous symbol for them to do. absolutely. and the kind of symbolic activity that is desperately needed. the political arena is a place where proper use of symbols should be premier - it should be vital. and yet so often in politics, we use symbols to denigrate other people, to dehumanize and to push them out, and i did not see that. yeah, that was beautiful. it s beautiful. a beautiful notion. and what happened? the u.s. lost? yeah, they won, but that s all right. yeah, it s okay. that s not what matters; it s how you play the game. but that s exactly what we re talking about, the power of symbols. but they would stand up and cheer when the united states would make a goal. yeah. that s what we want to see - in the world, we need that. and we stood up and we cheered when they did. so i thought that was pretty darn good. and so rare. well, anyway, symbols, the symbolic process. you all know what symbols are, but this is a college class, we have to have definitions. it s something, obviously, that points to something else. and we could not even understand, share this conversation that we ve been enjoying now for a few weeks if we weren t already incredibly skilled at symbols, because language is symbols, it s agreed-upon ideas. what i want to do today, as we often do, particularly since we were talking about religion and special kind of music symbols, is to look at different types of symbols and we ll see these all around. in fact, it s almost in a kind of an evolutionary order. the types we want to look at, first off, are signs, and signs are the kinds of - signs are like, we see a dark cloud, you know it s going to rain. or a certain kind of symptom - if you ve got bumps on your skin, you probably have chickenpox, or something like that. so symptoms are also signs. the signs are perhaps when we first began to develop symbols so many millennia ago as human beings in culture. the most interesting one - well, not the most interesting one, but certainly one that cuts to the core of myth and ritual is representational symbols. and we ll come back and look at some more specific types of those, but representational symbols are symbols that don t have any causal connection to it, and of course, the classic one is language. fire - everyone in this room perhaps could agree upon what the word fire means, but f-i-r-e has no real connection to what we know as fire. you can get burned by fire, it can heat your house, it s a word, a symbol we agree upon, and we ll see many others of those types - crosses, lots of symbolism in world religion. presentational symbols - scholars argue about presentational symbols because some say there s really - there s only representational symbols and signs. but in religion, a presentational symbol is something that, to some degree, participates in the reality. and here we might speak about sacraments, and perhaps icons, so we want to be looking at those. well, let s go down through these three, and try to get - unpack them a little, flush them out, give them a little bit more background on them. signs, as we said, are, you know, causally connected. and you can imagine someone in a neanderthal culture or 20,000 years ago or whatever beginning to make those connections between certain kinds of things that occurred over and over again in the world and what was the result of it. i ve always found it fascinating that apparently, it took quite a while for human beings early on to realize that sex contributed to the birth of human beings. and in those kinds of cultures, particularly according to feminist readings on that, that made the woman all that much more magical and mysterious because out of woman came new life. and we have many goddess cultures-riane eisler, the chalice & the blade - these interesting synopses. but that s the kind of thing we re looking at in terms of sign. now to mention representational symbols, well, these are the things that are distinct, or they re different from the things they symbolize. and there s no way you could have gotten to campus today, if you drove a car, if you weren t very adept at agreed-upon representational symbols. who did invent the traffic light? let s string him up. we only have one traffic light in mccomb, so i don t have to worry about that. but the traffic symbols, if you re taking your driving test, i mean, much of what goes on is that you learn to identify the agreed-upon symbols that move us along. in terms of religion, of course, we see the great symbols of the world - the cross in christianity, the star of david, these sorts of things, the om sign - these are symbols that evoke certain kinds of feelings here. an interesting one i ll mention is a presentational symbol. now, we have - up here, here s one. this is an icon. i believe this icon, in an eastern orthodox church in canaa - i could be wrong because we saw so many different icons. but this is a snapshot taken by our fantastic photographer dick byrd when we were over in the area around nazareth. and in this case, this is more like what we mean by the presentational symbol, because in the eastern orthodox faith, this is not just a picture of a great saint - and i should know which one this is, but i don t; nevertheless, this is a great saint in the church - and the believer, it s more like a window into heaven. looking upon this, this participation of this picture in the experience of the person doing it. so we get that in the world of religion - icons are very important in this way. the sacraments are symbolic kinds of activity. the bread and the wine - now they tell me - i got a d- in theology, as you probably well know by now - but they tell me that in the catholic faith, the taking of the bread and wine is a presentational symbolic activity. also in eastern orthodox, because it s really real - there s a transformative thing that happens to these ordinary substances, bread and wine, and they actually become the body and blood of christ, whereas in most protestant faiths, it s more of a commemorative thing, it s more of a representational symbol. now i m sure that depends on the believer and who s ingesting and who s going through the ritual. but you can begin to see how lively and interesting this symbolic process is when we plug into the ritual aspect here. questions you might have before we - sure. well, the catholics would call that transubstantiation - because it actually becomes the body and blood of christ. it s not just symbolic to catholics. it s just not something that just represents something; it s actually really there. to the devout person, there s a wonderful word in the eastern orthodox faith called theosis , and that means actually not becoming god but becoming more godlike through love, and through the windows. the reason why they have so many icons, which are so different from the protestant faith, where you go into a protestant church, most of the walls will be bare and they just have the pulpit and the text, so it s more text-oriented, which right there is a representational type thing. you go into an eastern orthodox church, and it s filled with pictures and colorful visions, and that s more of a representational type thing. yeah, chris? is transubstantiation - how is that really done, and is that magic? well, now, that s a great question, because in other classes, we ve gone round and round on what magic is. it reminds me of the cynthia jones - taking issue of do we want to use the word witch to describe what she s doing, or even pagan. i guess i tend to feel if words get in the way, try to find words that people are going to agree on - the power of the representational symbol here. to me, it is magic, but in the most respectful kind of way, which means transforming reality into something that s extraordinary, that s special, that s inspiring - i mean, to me, that s what magic s about. if you re talking about something that s on stage in las vegas, or if you re talking about somebody doing some small - level ritual thing, slight of hand, whatever, then i don t want any part of the word. so if we re talking about magic with a big m - something that s really meaningful - i could go along with you there. mystery comes in there. when you re talking about the transubstantiation, when you re talking about what happens, that s your divine mystery. as a matter of fact, in the eastern orthodox faith, the iconostasis s is a beautifu, ornate - it s a door that blocks the ordinary from the extraordinary, and you have to be a priest or a holy person to go past that. and believe me, i found that out the hard way. being your d- anthropologist, i was out with my camera in an eastern orthodox church - in fact, it was in this region - and i m just carried away, getting these great shots of the icons, and i m not paying attention, and the priest was nice enough to let us in when there was no service. and the iconostasis is here, and i m just clicking away, and i step through it, and he just hit the ceiling - just got incensed; he got so angry and tossed me out of the building, and said a lot of things in a language i didn t understand, which was great - back to representational symbols. but yeah, i mean, that s the sense of the mystery that s going on in these areas. sure. i was just going to mention being a believer, being a catholic, and you had said that the bread and the water turn into the body and the blood - well, it goes on into a ritual, because then we re able to receive the body of christ - and then we go - from the mass, we go up to the priest, that s the words he will say, body of christ, and then we receive it, and i just think it s a beautiful ritual. and you see how we re tying these things together? not to do the old reduction number - we re not trying to do that in here - we re just trying to understand what goes on in the world of religion. but that s why we ve waited about to this point in time. first we did our dimensional triangle and saw how myth guides ritual - that ideally brings back believers into the extraordinary religious or spiritual experience. well, none of that can happen without the power of symbols, and so that s why today, and then more, we ll look at ritual as a symbolic process. but just what you say - it s beautiful, it s powerful, it works, and it s transformative, and that s what we see in the symbolic element. well, let me pop on through the graphics here, and i want to move on to the next set and get a feel for what s going on with the ritual process. so we ve got signs, we ve got representational symbols, we ve got presentational symbols that are creating a wonderful primordial mix here of myth and ritual, but let s do some formal notes, so to speak, on ritual itself and look at some of the functions. and i think what you just said, joanne, about how meaningful it was will come out when you see how rituals work as a symbolic process. as we have here on the graphic, a quickie definition - got to have definitions if you re going to have tests. ritual is most definitely a symbolic mode of communication, and that s what makes it so rich. as we move through this class - and we already have many times - we see that so much of what humans do is a symbolic mode of communication, and so naturally, it s going to occur in religion. one way to think about it - and this is fairly obvious - it s a mode of religious expression that unites words, so we have representational symbols - words in different languages, different cultures, and gestures - we don t want to forget gestures either - to form a kind of sacred drama. gestures are very, very important - how one uses the hands. annette brought this up about if you don t know the proper gestures when you re in a ritual, then you re out of key - when do you kneel, when do you stand, hands open, hands closed - so gestures become extremely important. those of you - i went by this, but you know how important hand gestures can be if you ve gone to another culture; you have to be very careful about whatand you use or what you do. there s a lot of certain hand gestures we might use here but we wouldn t use them in this class because it s a family class, but you d all recognize - like somebody runs a red light and almost hits you. these are kinds of things. we ve mentioned the soccer game. gestures that are sounds that are agreed upon. in this culture, we boo when we re angry, and we whistle when we think something s good - but other cultures, a loud whistle is the negative side, so we change those. but ritual combines all of these - the gestures, the words, the activity - into this great ritual drama. now another thing that ritual does, and this is because of the power of symbol - it takes us back to the very first class or the second class when we were over there in acre on the mediterranean and we re walking around and we re looking at people fishing and talking about how the fish become such a symbol. well, rituals transform the ordinary into the extraordinary, and we re right back here with the most common kinds of things either bread or wine. i can go over to the local grocery store and pick up a bottle of ripple and a loaf of wonder bread and sit out under the railroad bridge and get kind of a buzz, but that s not going to do much for me in terms of some profound religious experience. you put those into the context of a ritual, and we ve really got something going on there. and so very common. meditating, singing, chanting, dancing, drumming - things that are common in the ritual context; they are empowered,