give you last word. anti-war candidate he criticized iraq and afghanistan war. he was reluctant to get into another war. he won the nobel peace prize for all of his efforts. thank you for joining us. thanks for watching. hard ball starts right now, chris matthews. the coming of trump. let s play hard ball. back in washington the start of a busy month. in 18 days donald trump will be sworn in like it or not as the 45th president of the united states. today president obama returned from vacation in hawaii with the goal of trying to protect his legacy which is an endangered political spe sees. address last week interest chicago. president-elect trump returned from his vacation. he tweeted. 2,762 this past year. he criticized what he called media outlets for suggesting he himself thought he was going to lose the election. we ll talk to newly appointed kellyanne conway. what is donald trump know that we don t what does donald trump know that president obama and focus media attention. to we know yet? i don t. earlier this evening he tweeted about north korea and fact he prevent them from getting a nuclear weapon. he tweeted about violence in chicago. we didn t see a lot of him today. he was indoors. trump tower was quiter day. but again, bottom line he did make that statement that he is going to produce more information. certainly the press corps is going to hold him to that. we re waiting for that. thank you for doing that. get in from the rain. donald trump praised vladimir putin trump tweeted the following. i new he was smart. today trump s incoming press secretary sean spicer suggested he was shooting from the shut. let s watch him. this report that every one see as taking gospel truth is not final. so there are questions as to why ewe are taking the actions without report being finalized. the president-elect is going to wait until information is final, what he is not going to do is politicalize intelligence before he has complete picture of what s happening. i m joined by the panelist. trump reality, he there was slam dunk phrase used. nuclear is the middle of the road people say let s go to war with iraq because they did this weapons. for sean spicer to accuse media of playing politics, it serve donald trump interests to intimidate every one around him and keep them at divide and at war. he putting intelligence community on notice in public, you screwed up before i done believe you, he is trying to discredit. why? it s a method of control for donald trump. you have military people out nuclear weapon a missile capable of reaching seattle. what s to stop that finger from pushing a bottom? he is able to be provoked and has a history which guy? the guy in new york or he has a history of doing provocative things. kim yun un may try something. you re president-elect, you re surrounded by newcomers. have you to go to people that have going to tell you what are my option, do i call the leaders in china, you have to warn him, if anything like this happens, long enough to know when someone is sick with a disease, they don t go to best friend, they go the smartest people they know. that s the situation trump is in he needs to find a specialist to deal with kim unyoung and what he just announced. this is a risky period. because they don t have the kin kings worked out. it raises a lots of ncerns. it s oneeason to have a smooth transition as possible so if there s a crisis you can call barack obama. i would hope so susan raises a good point. despite the public handshaking that president obama and president trump did in the oval office, we have a thing going on where presidency is competing here. i have never seen anything like it. the last time it happened was richard nixon and lyndon johnson. it s an entire array of thing. donald trump new year message for his enemy this weekend. he tweeted. they don t know what to do. love. susan, was that ha statement of unity? aren t his opponents his enemies. we re all-americans. you said it with a little bill clinton, he doesn t have note to his voice these days. you can see what kind of president donald trump is going to be in addition to the campaign by the tweets he puts out. what he is doing unprovoked is sticking his finger in the eye of the people he s beeten throubeaten through the presidency. he is laying down markers of how he is going to run the country and if he has to intimidate people. he did show during the campaign discipline. he showed when he was down in the dump when he thought he was a loser. he did discipline himself. there s controls on his control panel. he can say no tweets for three or four days. he won the nomination, we didn t think he could do that. you have to say that we haven t president obama is back. so the republican congressee ger to kill obama s legacy. can democrats stop them. india, this is hard ball, a place for politics. just thinking about it? at red lobster s big festival of shrimp, get your perfect pair for just $15.99. choose 2 of 6 new and classic shrimp creations, like bold new firecracker red shrimp. exploding with flavor? 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donald trump has been promoting and elevating woman, in the trump administration. it s who he is, it s what he does. i was in india, they have a good english language press over there, one thing that bugs me and scares me, a lot of this is back and forth, a lot of this can be fixed. how do you somebody was weird as kim yun un who sbround surrounded by fans and no one is going to tell him the truth, how do you step him from delivering a nuclear weapon to seattle. how do you stop him from doing that. you can punish him afterward what you can stop him from doing it. as you pointed out, the president-elect, has tweeted out the notice about north korea is about a year awa interest having this and he tweeted by saying that s not going to happen. he will confer with his generals. you don t do it by em bolding a country like iran which put the rest of the world in direct risk, that s why democratic senators were against the iran deal. the idea that we have been questioning north korea s is rich. lost the election and a guy who is going to be tougher on these issue the donald trump won the election. we you end like the plan, it puts them off in terms of their availability to develop a weapon. what would serve that purpose if you don t have a worldwide sanctions against them with the chinese cutting them off from any economic life, what do you do to stop them. you squeeze them and squeeze them, then what do you do in. you have so much money now and they are funding groups like hes ba la. the world is a dangerous place. we re not going to make foreign policy on your show tonight, this is a part of the obama legacy and i would be curious to see what the president will say in his farewell address. when you say the world is a dangerous place it didn t just happen. it s because of a lot of action and inaction and the fact that president-elect trump through his media platform is telling 44 million people on twitter, facebook and instagram combined that he intend to stop it and he will. i think that is wa a concern before he did it. he focus on the biggest concern we have. you say you don t want to make policy. he setting a different tone from obama with regard to russia and the allegation of russia s hacking into the campaign. let s start with that. here we go. it s interesting once they hack, if you don t catch them in the act you re not going to catch them. they have no idea who it is. it could be somebody sitting in a bed some place. it could be russia, i done tli it is. they don t know. and i don t know. last week the president-elect said we should move on. let s watch that. i think we ought to move on with our lives. computer has made it where no one knows exactly what s going on. we have a lot of other things, i m not sure we have the security we need. donald trump suggested there s information out there that hasn t been revealed that could change the hole situation. i know a lot about hacking and it s a hard thing to prove and it could be somebody else. i know things other people don t know. so they cannot be sure of this situation. what do you know that other people doesn t know. you ll find out tuesday oar wednesday. is that still a the president-elect in addition to the comments he made, he has agreed to have an sbels briefing and he will have that here at trump tower this week and he will hear from our top intelligence officials it is expected what they know. what does he know? he knows that every president, who have intelligence briefs i hope they know a lot more than the rest of us know because they should. they are the president and commander, president of the united states and commander in chief. we don t want politics to interfere with intelligence. we are say we don t want intelligence to interfere with our to play into our intelligence efforts either. the fact is i think those who are talking about the hacking, they fall into two categories one the content of the information revealed. calling chelsea clinton a spoiled brat, a lot of unfor theble it waebt the intelligence it s what you just described now, the political sizing of the intelligence who never had briefing and the cia but dick chaney went after the george w. bush they lied they put the word out, they didn t have a basis. we have guy on the show say he briefed dick chaney but it was a good way to get us into the war. in fairness to president-elect trump he has been criminal of the iraq war. he is criminal. hillary clinton voted for it t. she ran down to the well and proudly cast her vote for it. president obama has said that he told vladimir putin to knock it over when it came to hacking. it s not clear he meant knock it off because you re going to interfere with the election or knock it off. you don t say to vladimir putin knock it off and think that he will. it doesn t make sense. people wonder why more wasn t done early was it because president obama and everything at the networks thought hillary clinton would win. is it democratic or political response. are we going to move our embassy to jerusalem? possibly. he would like to do it. the reason is very simple, when you show up at the israeli equivalent of our supreme court, you go to jerusalem. don t you want our embassy to be where the seat of government is. the iraq side is that jerusalem will be capitol of the new state. israel s exclusive territory and no u.s. has said that. it s a fact and it s going to cause trouble. when you say may happen, you re not sure it s going to happen. it s a priority for the president-elect, he has said it many times. his new ambassador to israel has said so. if there s no peace plan on the table and we re not close to have a peace process completed here, then why wouldn t we want our embassy there. because it would cause an explosion. it s a very dangerous things to do. i can t let that go about the explosiveness of the middle east. un resolution was a great was u.s. policy and certainly israeli policy. john kerry 72 minute speech was tyrant against israel. rejectionism why don t we have peace process, in other words this is a very complex issue but you re going to have a president there for probably eight years. we have one in eight days to do this on the way out to break with the long-standing policy is shameful. u.s. policy under both parties have been trying to find peace in palestine in that you are area to try to bring peace part of that has been two state solution by both parties to stop the settlements which cutoff the chance to have a political state. no one has succeeded and president obama didn t visit until beginning second term. it s politics. thank you. up next, so what s putin looking to for the next four years. what s he up to. we re going to get a look at putin. this is hardball a place for politics. i mess around in the garage. i want to pay more to file my taxes. i want my tax software to charge me at the last second. paying $60 to file my taxes was the highlight of my day. and you just saw footage of me flipping burgers. want to charge me extra to itemize my deductions? 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it s designed to degrade america s ability to project itself as united states has done as the indeexpenseble nation, you undermine the democratic institution, you run circle around barack obama, you world stage and pull down america s role. what does putin envy about the united states. there s something in his mind that resents our position in the world today. what is it. greatness in russia he must defy the biggest power in the world, the united states. he has to demonstrate democracy is function institute. he is sick and tired of playing window politics, he doesn t demonstrate that democracy doesn t work elsewhere. almost every major country supporting all groups trying to destroy the political status quo are creating a mess all over the place. if you were trump s friend what would you tell him that he may react to that had he is being played. that putin is using him? what would you say? look, i can offer advise to the president of the united states whoever he or she is they have to look learn something from history and it s clear that any attempt to negotiate with vladimir putin is a disaster by definition. the money you are at the bargain table with him, you concede interest of the united states and the free world. does he kill his enemy in russia? i look i mention that friend colleague, up in front of the kremlin putin is a dictator and he will do whatever to stay in power and creating chaos over the world is part of the his agenda and president-elect is seen by putin to spread it around. he does worse than throwing people off his golf course, i guess. neither of them expected to be where they are today. donald trump winner upset election last year. vladimir putin has been doing this a lot longer than donald trump. trgreat to have you on. buckle up your seat belt, u.s. congress is bent on burying president obama s legacy. you re watching hardball the place for politics. time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live. for over 100 years like kraft has,cious natural cheese you learn a lot about people s tastes. honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? 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if they start with tax cut for the wealthy, every vote you have, think about some family and stew binville ohio in that have three kids, if it s something they re not talking about, it s not right. how to defund or repeal obamacare. they are going to try to take the tax incentive who help pay for those who cannot afford it. once you pull it it breaks apart. also it s going to cause the insurance agencies to skyrocket. 12 will won by trump. those are his voters. they are the people he relied upon. they may hate obamacare because it had oe became attached. which is a lot of people desperately need government the about we don t like the government. in the end it will matter. appalachia loves it. appalachia has always loved meals on wheels. the roundtable is sticking with us. up next they will tell me something i didn t know and i ve been away, so that won t be hard. like finding new ways to be taken care of. home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh. but with added touches you can t get everywhere else, like claim free rewards. or safe driving bonus checks. oh yes.. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it s good to be in, good hands. breaking news now. the u.s. house of representatives will hold a vote on thursday to condemn the united nations security council resolution that called israel s settlements a fly grant of violation of international law. that passed 14-0. the you states abstained. by the way, that passage will occur this thursday. we ll be right back. muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica. back for the hardball roundtable. andrea, tell me something i don t know. trump and putin s bromance has one goal and that s to undermine western democracy in western europe, and france is the key part. trump will be supporting the neofascist neofascists in france. oh, god. i told you mike pence went after j.c. wat krchlc. watts fo. it looks like the ag industry wants someone that looks like them. no. white? 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paragraphs talking about written by nice reporter, now i don t remember, he goes i done remember. maybe that s what i said. this was 14 years ago. they didn t do a retraction. special guest, someone active in politics and concerned about the direction politics is heading right fou. what did you think and feel when you watched meryl streep talk about a man going o be our president mocking someone s disability? i thought she said what she said beautifully. it s easy enough to see the video online of trump mocking i agree with meryl it was heartbreaking moment and so beneath the dignity of the presidency let alone any pt respectful person. what we need more is kindness and common decency. and what he did how he reacted how he needs he has the need to talk back and insult anybody who doesn t agree with him, that s pretty disgraceful. what do you make of the critique that meryl streep made last night you can push this and it becomes norm. you define deantsy. this kind of behavior become the norm. what signal to little children who watch television see this behavior of the soon to be president of the united states. little girls were heartbroken when hillary clinton didn t get to to be president. so i think it s what they see. children will listen, i sang that in a song once and they will see and they will learn. and and you know i m in the middle of having my teeth cleaned. you caught me at an disadvantage. it smportant t mention donald trump in the past said meryl streep was his favorite actress in the country so his reaction was the actual rage. if you get on his wrong side, he will blast you negatively. be prepared, barbara. he s coming. he had a new years eve party having gone to his rallies, he said at his rallies, i am your voice. i am the voice of thecy excellent majority but those people i give them enough credit to have not voted for him to pick on a guy like serg, they wanted him to be the bully against chinese and mexican criminal so forth and so on. they didn t want him to bully a defenseless person like that. when you interreviewed the president back in august 15, you asked him who favorite actress are and he told you julia roberts and meryl streep. he changes. he gets worse. i was at golden globe. this is someone who was the toast of the golden globe in 2007 when he attended with melania. he was in alex baldwin. he was on top as host and executive producer of the apprentice. we were his first magazine cover. the hollywood reporter. this is a community he loves and for many many years loved him back. the finest actor in hollywood there s no disputing that, they were stunned. for meryl streep has so much class, you don t need to justify this is not johnny dep, this is meryl streep. the pain was probably ov overwhelming. she place different people. she not john wayne. ann winners was unbelievable in devil wears prada. last week calling him a clown. that s strong. last month attack local union boss who took issue on jobs who doing a terrible job. more months bullying citizens alike. his wife, if you look at his wife she had nothing to say she maybe she wasn t allowed to have anything to say ichbl. she was the winner and gained a lot of weight and it ofs a problem. look at her, look at her words, you tell me what you think. i don t think so. she asked me all kinds of ridiculous questions. blood coming out of wherever. this guy, he like low energy. was being hit by poke hon tas, i said mick cannot run. he choked like a dog and walks like a ping win on on to stage. let s divide this. a person s character is fair game. you can talk about lying ted, crooked hillary. or the guy having a physical defect or even the pin quinn, i have to tell you it s awful. he gaining political strength by bullying people with the birth defects if you will. it s perplexing. why do people vote for people that are bullies? tell me why. blt built on domination and not cohesion that s why it s upsetting that we as a society would be moving in this direction. we abraham lincoln are not macho men. he didn t do that. i can only testify having been at his rally, those people wanted him to be a bully, their bully against other forces they thought were oppressing him, the politically correct, chinese, mexican immigrants. why does it fit in? it doesn t fit in. having watched that tape you put together, my prediction is this kind of thing won t last. it can t last. that behavior. the moment he gets into trouble, politically, all the people that he called clowns and cripples are going to come back on him. inter-view with the new york times this morning, trump dismissed criticism. we are going to have record setting dress shops are sold out in washington, it s hard to find a great dress for this inauguration. the fact-check foubd found to be just bs. what is it about this guy that makes statements all dress sale he said that s an example of something sold out because of his inauguration, this is not true. this is also part of donald trump s brand at this point even though you find this so outrageous it does mobilize the people who supported him, if you go on twitter and look at the conversations there s no middle ground. people are angry. people who criticized behavior as the people in the room criticized donald trump. the frustrating thing about this the lack of the discussions around these topics the more he double downs on these things, the more people get outraged and more divisive it gets. it hasn t happened, the inauguration. award another for fences. i was looking at the face of n denzel and people of color were taken. when you start making fun of people who are weak, that s what i don t like about the guy any way. janice, thank you, howard as always. son-in-law jared kushner getting top job at the white house. isn t that violence of nepotism law? you have to be careful when the law starts to be broken. plus, as president obama s eight years come to end we have to strategy in ob play book for the next for years. hardball roundtable more on the fight of donald trump and meryl streep and what it tells about the man about to take power. this is hardball where the action is. president-elect will take place wednesday at 11:00 a.m. at trump tower up in new york that s where he will meet the press. we ll be right back. when did mixing food, with not food, become food? thankfully at panera, 100% of our food is 100% clean. no artificial preservatives, sweeteners, flavors, or colors. panera. food as it should be. we re opening more xfinity stores closer to you. visit us today and learn how to get the most out of all your services, like xfinity x1. we ll put the power in your hands, so you can see how x1 is changing the way you experience tv with features like voice remote, making it easier and more fun than ever. there s more in store than you imagine. visit an xfinity store today and see for yourself. xfinity, the future of awesome. welcome back to hardball. donald trump son-in-law jared kushner going to be joining senior adviser give him sway over domestic and foreign policy. he married to trump s daughter. bars officials from kushner lawyer said mr. kushner is committed to ethics regarding the steps to take. it reads in english. a public official may not appoint or advocate for appointment or vansment in order to civil position in agencies which he serving or over which he exercise control. if you re heading up an agencies you cannot name somebody within the agencies who is relative of yours. there s a picture from the page from the budget. an attorney vising the told nbc he would not take a salary. they sold nbc news they don t think, they are lawyers. michigan senator, senator. if this guy, this son-in-law gets to be a nobody is going to mess with the guy. he is the son-in-law of the president. he would be like a viceroy. if it he gets a phone, title and working the in west wing. bobby kennedy named by his brother to be attorney general. by the way, according the budget office, executive officer of the agencies. why didn t this shatter the law. your thoughts. you re making the case. bade based on what you have saying, it ads to what we have seeing of a cabinet of billionaires that not work on behalf the people whether you look at their financial interests they don t want to disclose and you add his son-in-law according to the report already meeting with china officials and chinese banker after the election promoting own business. i a care about currency manipulation with china. how does that happen when his son-in-law is sitting right next to him and has potential dealings with chinese. how does that all work. what do you think he can do about it. what who would have standing to sue him say you cannot name your son-in-law to work in the chows. h white house. how would that work? this one of the many questions we have and legal precedents here that are being set all over the place including the fact that they are rushing through nominations without the basic conflict of background, ethics disclosure that mitch mcconnell asked for back in 2009. we have eight things he asked for before nominees would move ford and they have not happened. they have trying to jam through all of these nominees with no accountability. i don t know the guy, he is good guy, he gets trump operation wife is the daughter of trump. next things you know anybody who had-any problem with his family is dead meat. look what happened to chris christity. this guy has power. all of sudden, the so white wing. they are moving the embassy. they are going to support this guy has power. he has power domestically and foreign. this is power. this is something else. people are going to step we re going to make an exception or maybe the rules doesn t apply. the principle of nepotism law is to stop nepotism. they don t think any laws apply it them and the fact is when you decide to go into the public s business you don t take your private business with you and continue to try to make deals and benefit financially for yourself and family on the side. so this not personal, i don t know the president-elect s son-in-law there is not nipping personal. this is about the realitied ty make sure the people i remit have interest being concerned about not the deal that the family wants to make. senator of michigan. thank you. mitch mcconnell said democrats need to grow up. here he is. i was in schumer s position in eight years ago. what did we do we confirmed, seven all of these proceduresal complaints are related to their frustratation of not having lost the white house but the senate, i understand that but we need to grow up and get past that. he failed to disclosure his own letter to harry reid back into 2009 demanding that comply and complete background checks and financial disclosure forms prior to receiving confirmation hearings. mcconnell back to him ver bait tim and pointed out his cabinet nominees now. let s wash. back in 2009 every obama nominee had in before their hearing. full fbi background here before the senate considered their nom nagts. president-elect trump s nominees are behind that mark. mr. president i ask respectfully that the republican majority follow the same set of standard they had in 2009 when the shoe was on the other foot. was there one standard for president obama s nominees and president-elect trump s nominees. a lot of this you have to figure out what s going on. i read the lawme. it s clear why congress passed it. you don t want to have a government like you have third world joke cousin it depends on whose cousin you are. it was a response to what john f kennedy did with bobby kennedy. the president is one of the reason is what happened when carter walked around the white house. did he not have a lot of power. let tell you a better case, i know you can do that. hillary clinton which was given control of the there was a lot at stake. they made a point of it. this is something to argue about. son-in-law walking in the white house. it s legal to do in the house or senate or hire your son-in-law or daughter-in-law. we ll check it out. it s a live show. it happens on the campaign all the time. we ll find out. the point is this, donald trump if he going to do something extraordinary like having son-in-law who i do know, give the nation great service if he does this. let me tell you the problem we have with this, state department, people are up for nomination or confirmation who have not sent the fbi full filled yet. they have not turned ethics reform statements. why won t they do this on schedule. there s a piece, i think the piece missing is the obama government of ethics is being theory ny re not sending in forms. that s not true. what give me the name of the person. who is the person? 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tamron hall in the house. craig, thank you so much for not dancing. j.t. is a national treasure. thank you for not dance. are you ready? a new round of new polls, including a new national poll out and one from the battleground state of florida. this is a bloomberg poll. a lot of people talking about it this morning. kellyanne conway forced to defend donald trump s schedule this morning which includes promoting his new hotel before hitting the campaign trail. claiming hillary s plans in syria could spark world war iii. also ahead, hillary clinton finally connecting with millennials. a new survey is out this morning. clinton is speaking this hour in florida. we will bring her comments to you live. plus, arizona sheriff joe arpaio is also a donald trump supporter. he s now been charged with criminal contempt in a case involving racial profiling. what this means for the man with the nickname america s toughest sheriff. good morning, everyone, i m tamron hall. coming to you live from the msnbc headquarters in new york. here s the state of the presidential race. right now, hillary clinton is about to hold a rally in lake worth, florida. donald trump combines business and politics. trump choosing to attend the grand opening his new hotel in washington, d.c. right now that is happening before he heads to north carolina later this afternoon. a new bloomberg poll i mentioned to you is out this morning. it shows donald trump with a slim two-point lead in florida, a state he even admits he much win. a new monmouth university polls shows trump pulling ahead of secretary clinton in arizona by a single point. both polls within the margin of error. we also had headlines from the trump campaign. trump opening up a new line attack against hillary clinton. telling reuters, quote, you ll end up with world war iii over syria. his campaign pushing back against a washington post report that trump has all but stopped raising money for the republican party. and as trump heads to the battleground state north carolina today, his running mate hits three key states, nevada, colorado, utah. nbc s hallie jackson. when the whole birther statement was supposed to happen, he convinced the media to show up at his hotel and had this event billed as his acknowledgement president obama was born in the united states. that was a one-line sentence at the very end. this is why the question has come up about is this another stunt and why is he using the 13 day mark here to tout his hotel. is it more important to be business donald trump or try to be the president of this country. he s tripping to have it both ways. i m glad you brought up the last time. it was for that news conference. the acknowledgement of the fact that president was born in the united states. if you remember, that was something touted as sort of this newsy moment and ended up being an infomercial until trump at the very end quote to the point. basically i think a 45-word sentence. seven words of which wallace the actual news of the day if you will. this is being billed differently. this is being touted by the trump campaign as a ribbon cutting. they re not calling it a campaign event. we are here covering it because it is the republican nominee for president choosing to attend the so-called grand opening of his hotel in washington. it is a significant story in that it is just 13 days until the election. there are some fresh questions from critics about whether this is the best use of donald trump s time. that said, hereby is the argument the campaign is making. donald trump stops off to unveil an incredible hotel and everybody s hair s on fire. so that was their response. let s get to more of the news here with donald trump saying world war iii could be the next thing this country sees if hillary clinton s syria plan goes into place. we still don t know what donald trump s plan is to deal with isis in syria. the event was set to start at the top of the hour so we re now five minutes past. you talked about the attacks on hillary clinton. in a new interview out with reuters, he took aim with her syria party, arguing she could potentially start world war iii. there have been questions raised even from his own running mate. you also look at his other attack line he s been pushing this week on obamacare. hitting, trying to tie hillary clinton ton these rate hikes some consumers will see. that is a message we expect him to continue to push through the rest of the campaign. all right, thank you very much. now to the headlines from the clinton campaign, she continues to face fallout from e-mails being released by wikileaks alley from the account of her campaign chairman. this will be the 19th releelgs of e-mails. they ve been coming as you know in batches. a big endorsement. she tweeted overnight she s proud to now have the endorsement of secretary of state colin powell who served under both bushes and president reagan. a survey by harvard shows hillary has expanded her lead over trump with young voters. the number now at 28 points. kacie hunt joins us from florida where secretary clinton is holding an event as she also celebrates her 69th birthday. this new batch of e-mails puts i do think it s something they re worried will last into a potential clinton administration. whether it s because they re sewing division within their own party because of the things they said about progressives in the primary or whether it s republicans who might be looking to follow up on this once we get clear p clear of this election season. let s talk about secretary powell. we ve seen allegedly e-mails from him. he did not dispute whether they were inaccurate descriptions of hillary clinton. some not so kind words that were leaked out from his e-mails. and now he s endorsing he coming around to seeing her as the better candidate here. that s right. there was clearly some frustration on colin part s part about the fact he felt as though hillary clinton was blaming him for using private e-mail because he of course was one of predecessors and had his own arrangement years before the e-mail system evolved to where secretary clinton was using it so he s been a little defensive, but he s clearly put that aside telling a lunchen in long island pretty firmly he is on hillary clinton s side, having a lot negative things to say about donald trump. hillary clinton made an appearance on univision s talk show. showing, again, a lighter side. some of that confidence you ve been reporting a lot as far as the tone of the campaign at least at this point. this is her on the very popular show on univision. doing a little salsa dancing which i think you can see there. yeah, no, this is part of their outreach to hispanic voters. acontrols t across the country. in florida, an all important state quite frankly for donald trump. hillary clinton would still win if she doesn t win florida. donald trump not so much, tamron. another example something he would not be able to do considering the huge gap in support appearing on a univision show, not an option. thank you very much, kacie. good intrigue but i really don t think it s going to move the needle 13 days out from the election. does it, joan, though, amp up some of the tmp support? he saw an opening with this and talked about it on the campaign trail in florida. let me play what donald trump said about these latest hacked e-mails. obama, he had to know that hillary was using an illegal server, but he claimed otherwise. so that means obama is now into the act. and now i understand that despite his hatred of the clintons, because i know one thing, bill hates him, but despite his hatred, now i understand why he pushed her. because he didn t want ton get caught up in the big lie. he s caught up now, folks. again, this is in florida. he s got a slight lead according to bloomberg. how do you process? does this have a staying power? none of those words fit together or made any sense to me, tamron. not to you but to those people there. i can t speak for those people. the white woman carrying the blacks for trump sign. it s all very confusing. what i will say about what president did or didn t know. tam ron, if you send me an e-mail, i don t know where your server is. i don t know what kind of system you have. she did not send him an e-mail from hillary clinton at. this is my private illegal server. he had no way. that was not proof he had gotten some e-mail, he knew about her server. it s nothing about what he knew about the server. when we look at the electorate, we often hear the statement, it doesn t matter who would run, you d see pretty much a split in this country. the still surprising i think given the awful three weeks donald trump has had. his lack of focus. seemingly on, now, tv, and now this hotel, that it s still a tight race. want to play what a voter in wyoming told our own jacob soberoff. a part of wyoming county yy in pennsylvania. this is a little glimpse. let s play it. is that your trump sign in front? i have a better one at home. why are there so many trump signs? what is it about that guy? i think he says it as it is. i mean, look at his business. he s a good business man. you going to vote on november 8th? probably not. he s not going to vote. donald trump is a good business man. this man, while rural white male, doesn t fit the stereotype of the older white voter who wants america to be, quote/unquote, great again. but he s not going to show up. is this a result of donald trump s rhetoric in telling his supporters that he s already been defeated in some ways? i think it s very well, actually, it s not very shocking that donald trump is going around saying the election is rigged. that does have the effect of suppressing voter turnout. also, i think you will see the importance of a ground game is going to come into play. if you haven t had folks out there making multiple contacts with voters and if the people who are supporting you are people who haven t voted in the past, these are folks who need to be, you know, told when to vote, how to vote, where to vote, over and over between. it just doesn t seem like republicans have that ground game prised he said he s not going to vote. first, marie claire has an article that features evangelical voters in iowa who won t admit they want to vote for hillary clinton. there s a headline, the trump supporters who are secretly voting for hillary. one woman says, i don t have the emotional energy to go there especially with other christians. for a long time, the republican party has been viewed as the only acceptable choice. it s just not worth the capital for me to support clinton in a visible context but secretly these women will go in to vote for hillary clinton. i think that s fascinating. fascinating. i think it is possible we re going to see secret clinton voters whether p rather than these secret trump voters. what i meant by the best for last, megyn kelly/newt gingrich, here it is. if trump is a sexual predator he s not a sexual predator i m not taking a position on it. you cannot defend that statement. people like you using language that s inflammatory that s not true. you want to go back to the tapes your show recently, you are fascinated with sex and you don t care about public policy. me, really? do you want to comment on whether the clinton ticket has a relationship to a sexual predator? we on the kelly file has covered that story as well. i want to hear your words. bill clinton, sexual predator. i dare you. say bill clinton, sexual predator. evangelical women, all of them, clutching pearls. what happened? i mean, newt gingrich had a complete meltdown. i don t know if it s because he doesn t like it when a one stands up to him and speaks her mind. it was very disturbing to watch. again, we ve seen this pattern oe over and over again of republican men sort of bullying these women and yelling over them and talking over them. and, you know, really the irony of newt gingrich bringing up this topic. really. is that why go back to that marie claire article that some of these evangelical women who say i don t have the patience to argue with it at church but i know what i m going to do. when you have newt gingrich, rudy giuliani, chris christie, as the three men telling them what to do. they re taking this attitude toward women like megyn kelly who are incredibly intelligent, incredibly accomplished. once relatable to conservative women and is herself, you know, on a conservative station but is still treated like she knows nothing and like she s fascinated by sex. can you think of anything more creepy than to have to talk to newt about sex, i mean, please. nope. please, she s doing her job, and yet she s stigma titzed, she s the one with the sex problem. daniela, thank you, joan walsh as well, thank you. coming up, trump s controversies could cost him a victory in the solid red state of utah, home state to majority of mormons. we ve been talking a lot about utah because it is a reliably red state. up next, we ll talk with a mormon family who says they can t decide between hillary clinton and evan mcmullin who s been rising in the polls. what does that do to trump? plus, live to the battleground state of florida. early voting already smashing numbers from 2012 but exactly who is turning out? we have some new insight for you to digest. that s next. an opening nightn broadway is kind omac. i m beowulf boritt and m a broadw set digner. when i sta designing bronx tale: the sical, i came . .with idea of four towerstha. i ll build a lite model in otosp and add these.. .detai in with a pen. i ll build a lite model in oti could never do that with mac. i feel ke my job is. ..manation to fillin allhe. .to t out there just enough detail to spur the audiences. this windows pc is azing hang .right at my finger tipss incredible. woman: how do we protect them from $4 billion in new cuts to california schools? man: vote yes on proposition 55. woman: prop 55 doesn t raise taxes on anyone. man: not on working californians, not small businesses. no one. woman: instead, prop 55 simply maintains the current tax rate on the wealthiest californians. man: so those who can most afford it continue paying their fair share. woman: .to prevent new education cuts. man: .and keep improving california s schools. woman: vote yes on prop 55 to help our children thrive. hillary clinton will be having an event later this afternoon. people coming to polling stations like this one ton my right if you can catch it here behind this car. there are more than 300 polling stations like this one across the state. we ll been seeing people trickle in all morning especially latinos because latinos know the fastest growing segment of a population here. you would think that s good news for hillary clinton. there s more to it than that. as you said in that new bloomberg poll today, trump showing a slight edge with hispanics in miami where there s a higher concentration of cuban-american voters. trump really hardening his stance. even meeting with bay of pigs veterans. the deciding factor for a cuban-american voter who we spoke with earlier today. let s hear him. it was very good that he did have that because that was part of the whole history. it was very good for him. actually going to get a lot of cuban votes because of that. trump really targeting that cuban vote because immigration is not a big issue for that community. and every single vote is going to count for him here in florida. it may all boil down to this date and this county where i am now. it s incredible, thank you develop. greatly appreciate that report. turning now to the unexpected story playing out in utah. donald trump may be the first republican to lose that state since 1964. the polls there extremely tight. between trump and clinton. and the third party candidate, evan mcmullin. utah s mormon voters are also divided closely on who they will vote phone p for november 8th. they are of course the key voting democratic for utah. vice presidential candidate tim kaine targeted mormon voters with his op-ed yesterday on the importance of religious mission service. of course he was a missionary. part of our up for grabs series. now, in salt lake city where he spoke with some of the voters in the state. it s back to a refrain we heard during the primary election. anybody but donald trump. who would have thought we d be back here in utah ahead of the general election but as you said for the first time since the 1960s, a republican could lose the race for the white house. it comes down to these mormon voters. i spent some time with a young mormon republican family who never voted for anybody but the republican candidate and this is what they told me. republicans, both of you? traditionally, yes, always voted republican. did you guys caucus in the republican good catch, in the republican primary? yes, you ve been a delegate. twice. so here we are pretty close to election day. wow, what are you guys going to do? we battle back and forth. for a little while, i looked at hillary clinton. right now i m really excited about the momentum in the mcmullin campaign. it s caused me to explore my own political beliefs. i think traditionally at least i ve kind of toed the party line becau that s everybody around here has traditionally been a republican. will this be the first time you haven t voted republican for president ever? correct. yeah, yes. for you both? yes. so does it i mean, what s the primary motivating factor in not voting for donald trump? is it your faith, your religion? it s like a core belief of, like, look at these two guys riding around. yeah. we hold the presidency in a really high regard. it s important to us to know who that person is and what they stand for. for months now, it s been very, very clear. long before any newly released published foot only of horrific things. it s been pretty obvious to us that he s not that representative we want. right now, you re in you re going to vote for who if it was today? if it was today, mcmullin. today? probably mcmullin. and if you re faced with the choice of going for mcmullin, donald trump as the winner in utah, hillary clinton? sure. i really even though i don t want my vote to be driven as an anti-this is one case where i feel like it s important. tam ron, in a sign of how close things are here, republican vice presidential candidate mike pence will be in utah today. that is something that you normally wouldn t see at this stage of the presidential campaign. but the six electoral votes in utah could make the difference in the race to 270. wow, all right, jacob, it is always great to just hear some insight and understanding, with these 13 days out, especially in utah, where you have a third party candidate that may result in votes. coming up, is donald trump s campaign damaging his brand and his business? there s a piece p petition to g name removed from a 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well, here in brussels, he s just announced he s going to be suspending the payback of these bonuses. that doesn t, however, mean this is totally in the clear. they have a process in place. as secretary carter told me this morning, they do think there may have been a little bit, at least some cases, of fraud taking place. what they don t want is the majority of national guardsmen being caught in the cross-fire. he s outraged by the situation. well, of course i m outraged. this is a case where we have a trust with service members who have served us. they have made a commitment to us. we need to keep our commitments to them. with respect to whether it s california, we don t know the full extent of it yet. do you need to do it with congressional authorization? is this something you can we re going to do everything we possibly can without waiting for any change in the law. tamron, we re now in brussels. it s the end of secretary carter s trip. the subject here on everyone s mind, russia, their new posture and just what they re doing in eastern europe as well as the baltic seas. the man nicknamed america s toughest sheriff is vowing to fight new criminal contempt charges against him. he says tooth and nail. sheriff arpaio of arizona s maricopa county was charged last night for ignoring a judge s order in a racial profiling case. arpaio is up for re-election going for his seventh term. prosecutors said two weeks ago they would prosecute arpaio and in a statement then arpaio said, quote, it is clear the corrupt obama justice department is trying to influence my re-election. it is blatant abuse of power and the people of maricopa county should be aso outraged as i am. let s go back to the charges and what they stem from for the sheriff here. sure, they are all rooted in a long-running case going on for nine years now. in late 2011, the judge before the trial even happened, the judge said that sheriff arpaio s deputies needed to stop enforcing federal immigration law. meaning if they pulled somebody over and they happened to be hispanic, they had to either arrest them for a state charge or release them. what arpaio s deputies were doing were taking them over to i.c.e. or to the border patrol and what happened was even after the judge issued that preliminary injunction, arpaio s deputies ended up doing that for at least 18 months thereafter. sheriff arpaio will not be arrested. he s real choired required to n court. this is costing taxpayers $48 million to defend arpaio and his office. the cost could reach $72 million. he says it s politically motivated. he s been one of the most controversial sheriffs in recent memory certainly. for sure. it is important to note, though, that 72 million isn t even related to this case, to the criminal contempt case. the 72 million is for everything else. he will and should be paying for the criminal charges on his own as will the three others that may stand for them as well. but so far, arpaio is the only one facing criminal contempt charges. yes, this has been i m sorry, go ahead. he was saying he was talking about the people of maricopa county not standing for this. what is his standing with the county at this point? he has supported donald trump. is he still popular there? it s hard to say. we took a poll a couple weeks ago right when the charges were coming outnd the doj announced they would be pursuing them. it shows he s about 15 points below his democratic opponent. so that shows that his support may be slipping. help has other polls that say differently. i guess we re just going to have to wait and see. he does have a really big strong hold in some of the communities here. great reporting, we really appreciate you joining us. a super pac linked to senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is out with a late ditch multimillion-dollar effort to keep vulnerable republicans from losing their senate seats and it s focusing on six states including four battleground states. mark murray is up next. chs make in right. firs all customers w havebe im wille lly fued co, we loaelsendyou a iron fory third,e eliminated productard . les goals foreta banrs. eure yo intes are put firs wee takingction. renengur commiento you. wee takingction. t e best place tan be f awe start is ithfost : i spsomethg giing wi. s beetle: snow bo: no le: sw coved ees. monkey: thing to do with snow. ator: head outde todiscoverncres d b ce an unforgetble advt th ce ge graurdon t en.key: rrator: anexplore a world of possibilities. kubo: me on, ts wa narratvisi scoverthefort.org to find the closest forest . we re not going to find out until after the election once the disclosure reports come out. this is all about trying to help republicans in key senate contests like nevada. in north carolina. in new hampshire. pap pa, missouri. in indiana. and, tamron, you know, republicans have to pretty much run the table in those contests to keep control of the united states senate. that is why republicans are try to flood and spend so much money in these states. i ve heard a number say that the only way republicans should worry is if hillary clinton has a ten-point lead. that s not what the numbers show. but it s clear they believe this lead is significant despite some of the battleground maps that show it as a tight race. so there are two realities. we have seen republican down ballot candidates overperform donald trump in these battleground states. that s some good news if you re a kelly ayotte in new hampshire or a joe heck in nevada. but the downside is this is kind of marginal and we re talking two or three percentage points and if, you know, hillary clinton ends up winning, say, a new hampshire or a nevada, chances are the democrats are going to probably end up winning those senate contests as well as other down ballots. because turnout ends up mattering so much. i m just not sure there are a lot of ticket splitters. thank you so much, greatly appreciate it. coming up, justin timberlake s selfie taken inside a polling place has people asking if he broke the law. up next, we re going to look into where you can get your selfie on while voting where you probably don t want to do it. onlyhose who dardre therld for. the cadillac c. see me see t ste e. e . see t ste e. see me see me tow that priis isisust something that he. i m contagio. e me to knowhato isisundiscoverentyx,t works. a different kif cine foe to spl psoriasis. proven thelp the jority of pe find clear o almost clekin. 8 out of 1peopleaw 75% skin clearan at 3 months. whilthmajority saw 90% cleance. doot use if you are alleic to cosentyx re starting,ou should be stedor tubculosis.an ied rk of s anlowerereabity to fit them may occur. .chilscle aches or coh.ve an iectionr symptoms. trious alle reactioytoms invep ormay y r. disease see me. see me. see me. seme. on my ana ear pa forward. announcement courtesy of justin timberlake. he voted in tennessee, his home state. turns out it is illegal to take a selfie while voting in that state and in many others. officials in shelby county where justin timberlake voted say his actions will not be investigated. he s a national treasure. and he won t face charges. officials are thrilled he, quote, can t stop the feeling. that s what they said. for legal advice, ari melber. i will take the selfie. do it. what s the deal? first of all, as you reported because there was confusion on the internet. at first you don t have to cry me a river for justin. i can t. i got it out of the way. i need a drink. i m listening, go ahead. it is illegal in most states. why? great question. there is so much concern in other areas around any pressure, tampering, interference that a lot of states don t want recording devices or even talking on the phone once you are inside the polling place. if you are home watching you can ask if you are in most of the country you probably can t use your phone to record anything. you can ask as you walk in and find out so you don t break rules. having said that, i will tell you the states are on the wrong side of the first amendment here. unconstitutional people are saying. the tennessee law does say flatly you can t do what justin did. they are not going to investigate. it says you cannot use your phone as a recording device or a photographic device in the polling place. more interestingly, there is a federal appeals court, the first circuit that struck down the exact same kind of law in new hampshire. they found there is a first amendment right so selfie. they said there is a strong first amendment right to communicate and laws against voter selfies unfairly restrict voters core political speech. the idea that you are saying something. the court ruled you are saying two things. number one, i voted. which in this world means you are telling you friends today is the day. and you could be showing who you are voting for and that s political speech that s protected. interesting. where does it go? other states may test it and the supreme court may want to take a circuit split. with one court in part of the country saying yes you can do this. and the first circuit said you can t. that s what could lead to the supreme court. this is how people communicate. we think of selfies as silly. but it may be an important way for young people to say, get out and vote. i love a good selfie. we didn t have this problem when polaroid was around. i don t know. did we? polaroids? thank you. happening now, hillary clinton is set to speak in lake worth, florida. we ll bring you the comments, of course. we ll be right back. an opening night on broadw is kind of magic. whentarted digng a bronx ma bro. tale: the musical, i camup. ..ith th idea four towers th were fi escapes. .essentially. i bui a little del photoshop and add these. .detai in with a pen i coulvedo twi c. i feel likejob . .iginaon to fill .tinll the blas.st enough detail to spur t audiences. this wdows pis amazing, ving all of my tools. .rig at m[music]ips iincredi. jess: y look, it s those guys. shawn: look athosos pearly whites, man. usic] bu whoa, cu! n: sh-up. ss are you good bu to drive? 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the policy. nor is he selling it to his own good advice to president trump from senator santorum. that s it for the lead. i m jake tapper. tune in for state of the union. my guest will be samantha b. it all starts at 9:00 a.m. eastern. i turn you over to cnn tonight with don lemon. thank you for watching. this is cnn breaking news. breaking news. north korea tests a ballistic missile in a show of defiance against growing pressure from the trump administration. are they also testing the new president? this is cnn tonight. i m don lemon. pentagon officials say the test failed, the missile growing up over north korea territory. the launch coming hours after president trump warned of a possible major conflict with north korea. meanwhile, tomorrow marks the president s 100th day in office. the stakes are high for a president who made a lot of promises and has been feeling the pressure to deliver. how does he feel about holding the highest office in the land? we ll discuss all of that, but i want to begin with north korea and go right away to cnn international correspondent will ripley, the only western tv journalist inside the country. also with us from the white house, our senior white house correspondent jeff zeleny. i ll start with you, will. good evening. a u.s. official confirming north korea test fired a ballistic missile. this comes after president trump warned of a, quote, major, major conflict. what are you learning? hey there, don. yeah, we are not hearing anything from north korean officials on the ground here in pyongyang. in fact we informed our government contacts about this attempted launch early this morning. given the fact it is believed to be a failure, it is likely north koreans will never hear about this. i have been in the country where attempted missile launches have failed, it is never announced on the state media. if it was a success, there would be photos with the leader kim jong-un. we know it reached an at tut of about 44 miles. while it didn t go as far as they wanted it to, they gain a lot of valuable intelligence even if the missile launch is a failure. you can expect more launches to come. in fact, officials have been telling us this week. also they say the world can expect more nuclear tests as well. to jeff zeleny at the white house. what is the white house saying about this? don of. reporter: don, we know that the president was briefed on air force one when he was flying back to washington and he has not said much about this in an official statement from the white house they said they were aware of this. but then, of course, about an hour or two later he went to social media and had a message. i think we have it. he said this. he said, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. bad. don, his advisers, also foreign policy advisers called it a provocative move and are keeping an eye on it. it is interesting to note the official statements coming from the white house are not saying much at all here. the u.s., the white house is hoping that china will step in here and sort of ease any rising threat from north korea. but, don, it is one of the biggest threats facing this president and, you know, he has been talking about it most every day, giving briefings on it of course every day this week and most of his presidency. jeff, by the way, the president is commenting tonight on his new plan, tax plan he released this week ahead of his 100th day in office. what is he saying? reporter: he is touting his plan. don, interestingly, this is first time he has talked about it actually. he had a big his white house had a big release of the plan on wednesday but he did not speak about it at all, but in an interview with fox news he was talking about the fact that it would help everyone including the middle class, not just higher income earners. let s watch. you keep forgetting to say that the biggest beneficiaries are the middle class people who have been absolutely hurt. your critics are going to say, well, real estate companies like president trump s company will benefit along with the middle class. will it make you harder to get the big cut in the middle? if i m individually playing 35%, i will tell you that s more okay, i m going to end up paying more than i pay right now in taxes, all right. i will pay more than i pay right now. . reporter: but interesting, don, he said he will pay more than he is paying right now but the reality we do not know how much he will pay because he has not yet released his tax returns. once the tax discussion becomes more developed on capitol hill, that will be a refrain from democrats and others saying, where are your tax returns. the white house, of course, says he still has no plans of releasing them. jeff zeleny at the white house and, again, will ripley in north korea, the only western tv journalist inside that country. if anything happens, we will get back to you in this broadcast, will. i want to bring in cnn political we have talked about it is that he there is a struggle within the trump administration over the extent to which the bannon-trump ideas should prevail. so this is not just a story of the short comings of donald trump the leader, this is also a story about the strength of the system that is actually preventing some of the crack pot i tes fr ideas from being realized. what we learned about him as a leader, he has a short attention span. he wants wins. he is willing to change on a dime if he doesn t get what he wants the first time, he will switch his policy entirely. finally, once again, he is unwilling to admit error. none of those things are surprising given the campaign, but what is surprising is that he hasn t changed in 100 days in office. the question is, mark preston, given everything timothy just said, there is the tendency in this administration to brush that criticism and the reality off as an alternative reality when it certainly shows knew. i just don t think i don t think he had a clue. i think one of the things that s interesting to me is how after the first 100 days and people have dgone through their variou stages of grief and have come to the acceptance point, people are saying, well, you know, it is not so bad. you sort of say, well, why do you think it is not so bad? people say, well, we haven t had an apocalypse, we re still here, we haven t been bomb. i think that there is this tendency to talk about the new normalization, but the second is that it is not normal. sally, it sounds like to me you re saying that he s saying, i can t believe people bought this because maybe he didn t even convince himself. i don t think he did. this is why i think everyone is in shock. i think he is really horrified at the situation that he s in now where he has to make these decisions, and if you look i mean people voted for him because they thought he would be a strong president, but the fact is that he has turned out to be so far as i remember the weakest president we ve ever had. okay. if you look at the way he changes his position, one right after the other, somebody just has to say, that s not a good idea and he goes, okay, well, forget nafta, okay. as they said, i forget who said it, if you want to have influence on the president in policy be the last person to speak to him, the last person in his ear. hold those thoughts because i want everyone to stick with me. when we come back, what lessons has the president learned so far and what s ahead for the next 100 days? here is a look at the president s first day in office. the president and first lady dancing inauguration night away at a series of balls. there they are. it s over. i ve found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something. set it free. see you around, giulia [ sighs ] hey, i was using that. what, you think we own stock in the electric company? i will turn this car around right now! there s nobody back there. i was becoming my father. 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[ chuckles ] all right. nlike @squirrelgirl52, without thwho writes,ootball. no football on sundays has left me with a lot of free time, so i ve constructed a sanctuary for local squirrels. try watching the nfl draft. maybe watch with a friend. or doctor. tremendous disadvantage in the electoral college, you know that, tremendous disadvantage. and to run the whole east coast and then you go with iowa and ohio and all of the different states, it was a great evening, one that a lot of people will never forget. a lot of people. not going to forget that evening. so he s anyway, i ll go on. i mean he s like he s it is like yearning for the day, like that you know, the good old days which were just, you know, a couple of, three, four months ago. i mean actually it was a little longer than that. that was today. there s also at this reuters interviewed he passed out a map of his electoral college win to each reporter. mark, i don t know, can you explain why he s so obsessed with this? a couple of things, don. he used to do the same with you, right? he would give me polls. he would show you the polls. i thought it was unorthodox, unusual, but at least he was in the middle of the campaign and he wanted to show me what he was doing. the campaign is behind him. the election is over. right. a couple of things. oe is he s looking in the rearview mirror and sitting in the driver s seat and not looking at what is in front of him necessarily, or if he is, he is being distracted which i guess it is probably more of the latter. he is distracted by his own successes because it gets under his skin that people don t think he s the legitimate president of the united states. he gets so frustrated by that. the fact of the matter is that he is the legitimate president of the united states. why does he think people don t think they see him as because democrats continue to this day to say that the election was stolen and the russian interference the whole russian thing and electoral college win. correct, all of that. here is the problem. as tim said earlier as we were talking, the fact is he s the president of the united states. he has a lot on his plate. right? he needs to be successful. to do so, don, he needs to start listening to people outside the white house, people who have been in politics before because the fact of the matter is this is a very difficult job, and he did acknowledge that himself. okay. i need to go quickly, guys, if you can. brechity is t brevity is the key because i want to get you all in. tim, would you say president trump is the least knowledgeable president in modern history, because remember nafta, he was shown a map according to you know, about nafta and on and on. listen, presidents don t have to be able to do well at jeopardy, that s not important. what s important is that they have a sense a theory of governance. they don t need to know trivia but they have to have a sense of how to govern and a sense of the federal government. donald trump doesn t understand the size of the government and he doesn t understand some of the ideas he campaigned are mutually exclusive. which is why this past week when he thought about getting rid of nafta, he says, you know, if you undo that trade deal american farmers will be in trouble. he said really, i had no idea. what we are facing is a president who has taken tough and very vocal stands on things he actually doesn t know anything about. that is troubling. okay. if we doug, if we think back to congressman elijah cummings, he says he told the president that he could go town as a great president if he represents everybody, but robert kennedy jr. said something similar. listen to this. i think donald trump can be any kind of president he wants. he actually has an extraordinary opportunity because he s coming into office less burdened by obligation than probably any president in our history, with the possible exception of andrew jackson. i think he could be the greatest president in history if he wanted to. yeah. doug, do you see the president bringing folks who disagree with him into the fold? how does he turn things around? yeah, i disagree with a lot of what has been said here today. i think he s been very successful in many areas. i think he has turned around the economy. i think he has turned around illegal immigration, which has dropped like a rock even without the wall. he is the wall. i think he s turned around the supreme court. those are the three things that s the people who wanted him to win voted for him, that s why 96% of them still support him and why he would beat hillary clinton in a poll that just came out two days ago if it was head-to-head again today. so i differ a little bit. i also differ with the idea that presidents are stupid. i have been hearing that all my life. abraham lincoln s cabinet, fellow cabinet officer used to write letters to his wife and refer to the president as our dear imbecile. people think that these presidents just fall into office. it is just like a throw of the dice. i have been inside the white house and i can tell you they re highly calculated. some of my journalist friends can t believe some of the stories i tell them of how issues are parsed, political issues and what political discipline these people have. i agree that he s out of the box, and that s what robert kennedy jr. was talking about. that gives him an opportunity to offer solutions because he thinks differently and he s breaking the dishes and throwing over the tables. that s kind of what i wanted to see. well, sally, as i said, he s unorthodox. but, listen, the economy, whether he has turned the economy around, i think some people may want to argue about that. the border wall and immigration, many people believe he should get credit for that, and also the supreme court. he did get a nominee. he got someone on the supreme court, whether you want to argue whether it was mitch mcconnell or the president, it still happened under his watch. what do you say, sally? i don t see that he has bit a border wall yet or solved the immigration problem. he did get gorsuch in, and i suppose that could be the one thing you could say he has accomplished. i don t think you can be a successful president if you have no ideology and no convictions and if you don t have a moral compass. we know that he s ethically challenged because we know that he doesn t tell the truth a lot of the time. i think that ultimately that is going to prevent him from being a good president, not just not a great president but a good president. i think that the inconsistency that he shows, particularly in the way he deals with every aspect of government has got people terrified, particularly our foreign friends and enemies. i mean the foreign leaders are all completely terrified because they don t know from one minute to the next what he s going to do and what he thinks. i have talked to a lot of the ambassadors and they all say they don t have a clue, and so what they ve decided to do, one of them told me actually tonight, what they ve decided to do is not pay attention to what he says. they ve told their home offices that because they can t believe what he says. well, for our adversaries it may be good they re terrified of him, but for, you know, our allies not so much. again, it has only been 100 days and let s home it is a learning curve for him and a learning period and he has learned from the last 100 tays. thank you all. i appreciate it. when we come you back, morgt of north korea s missile ballistic launch today and how the world is reacting to trump s presidency 100 days in. first a loot a look at this major moment, dropping the mother of all bombs on isis on day 84. uhhh. and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we re not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what s with all the questions? ask your broker if they re offering $4.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don t like their answer, ask again at schwab. that they need is not to hit a target on the other side of the earth. that s the normal flight direction for an icbm and that would normally be the case. but they can launch a satellite into orbit and it can be a relatively low orbit. the first thing we ever launched in space was a satellite, that s actually easier to do than to hit a target on the other side of the earth. and if that satellite contains a small nuclear weapon and it is detonated over someplace, say the united states, it can be devastating to the electric grid. so we ve got a bigger problem than that he might go beyond launching something into orbit and be able to hit a target on the other side of the earth. it might take him a while, yeah, that s okay, the longer it takes him the better. but he may have more up his sleeve than that. he may be able to detonate something inside a satellite that is in orbit, and that is extremely troubling. michael len, to you now. this missile launch comes on the heels of the president telling reuters the u.s. could have a major, major conflict with north korea. the president tweeted this, saying, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched, though unsuccessfully, a missile today. bad. how do you respond? i think the president is putting north korea at the top of his foreign policy agenda, and, again, in the tweet you see him trying to put the chinese first in recognition that they have the most sway, the most power, the most economic links over the dprk. he is trying to say to china, hey, listen, the calculus has change wille changed. we are no longer going to sit around in a policy of strategic patience. we are going to ratchet up the sanctions and appreciate jury and, as the secretary of state said, all in an effort to try to get them to the negotiating table. but first let s change the cal can you lose. let s change how things have gone so far. i think it has been an appropriate period of ratcheting up the pressure. look, we have a long way to go. we haven t will solved this in 20 years, we haven t going to solve it in 100 days, but so far so good. kimberly, the north koreans have been conducting massive live fire attacks for days, including a simulated attack on the white house and the capital, as well as on what appeared to be the ucc carl vinson. could it back fear and prompt him to launch an attack on south korea. that s what some are saying. they re saying the president s tweets, the president s recent interviews are irresponsibly skating the line, going possibly far enough to goad kim jong-un into doing something he doesn t mean to. today to see them launch this ballistic missile oraa tem atte launch this ballistic missile was a disappointment for the trump administration. secretary of state rex tillerson offered a carrot at the u.n. today. he talked about possibly be able to return to talks if they see some sign that the kim jong-un regime will move towards denuclearization, but not demanding all-out de nuclearization. they also mentioned at one point the u.s. gave millions of dollars to the north korean regime to help its people and basically offered that. that was, according to a senior administration officially spoke to, that was an intentional signal to north korea there is a way out of this military confrontation, and they didn t take it. yeah. all of this happening within the00 within 100 days, that 100 day mark is tomorrow, tomorrow, ambassador woolsey, whether it is confronting north korea as we ve been talking about, dropping bombs on afghanistan and syria. these first 100 days of the trump administration, the foreign policy has been aggressive so far. can you tell us what the end game is? is there a trump doctrine? i don t know that there is yet. there may never be, but i do think there are two bright spots. one is that he s selected very able people as his senior people in the national security area, jim mattis at the defense department, several marines who served together as chance would have it in afghanistan and iraq. and also he seems to be able to step back and have a second look at things. he started out being very interested in a cordial or better relationship with russia and very tough on china on trade. over the course of the last several weeks he has migrated toward a more collegial relationship with china and a tougher one with russia. i happen to think that s the right way to go, other people may not. but i think he s thinking through these issues and learning from how things are going and making decisions, and that s good. mike allen, let me ask you about the missile launch from kim jong-un. what that his answer to the u.s. threat, and are we on a course that could become difficult to reverse? i wouldn t put it past him. look, he always engages and the regime has historically engaged in quite belligerent, aggressive behavior. i wouldn t necessarily say we re on a run away train towards a military confrontation. look, we are taking a calculated risk here in the united states in that we re artrying to up th pressure on north korea and china simultaneously. i think we want to avoid war at all costs, and the only way to get out of this trap that we re in and that we ve been in for so long is to try and get the chinese motivated to take action. i think we ve said to them basically so far, listen, we are prepared to put very tough sanctions on your banks that do business in north korea and give you a strategic choice. would you rather work with the united states or would you rather continue this relationship with north korea? these are the choices that we need to force upon the chinese. this is the calculus shift that we need to usher into the calculus with north korea. look, it is not without risk, but to do nothing like we ve done in recent years in the long run is much riskier. this is the path we have to take, and i think the president has shown some remarkable resolve so far. thank you. unfortunately we are out of time, everyone. when we come back president trump speaking to the nra, telling them the eight-year assault on gun rights is over, but could he change his position on guns? 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[fbi agent] you re a brave man, your testimony will save lives. we thank you for your courage. but as you know, you are now in terrible danger. mr. stevens? mr. stevens? for the foreseeable future. .this is your new name. this is your new house. your new bank account. and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible. [hero] i ll take my chances. i can tell how excited you are about that. listen, it s been an exciting 99 days, let s say that. he spoke at the national rifle association today, ben, first president to do so since ronald reagan. i want you to listen to his message. here it is. the eight-year assault on your second amendment freedoms has come to a crashing end. [ cheering and applause ]. you have a true friend and champion in the white house. no longer will federal agencies be coming after law abiding gun owners. [ cheering and applause ]. no longer will the government be trying to undermine your rights and your freedoms as americans. so, ben, why the need to give a red meat speech to the nra? well, i think for the last eight years a lot of gun owners like myself have not felt comfortable with the government and there has been a very clear message from the past administration that bee were coming after many of the guns we thought you shouldn t be able to own. and so it was appropriate for this president to go into the nra and to assure their members and assure others like myself that are gun owners that, hey, you don t have to worry anymore, i m going to protect and defend your second amendment rights instead of coming after it and trying to take away those rights from you. again, i think it was a smart decision to go to this meeting, same way it was for ronald reagan. okay. can you name any legislation over the last eight years aimed at taking guns away? yeah. i mean there was multiple times that the white house after pretty much any type of school shooting that they had or any other type of mass shooting that they had, where they said, we re going to come after ar-15s. they had to bring in guns, get approval to bring them into washington to put them on a board when dianne feinstein and others were trying to go through the litany of guns that they were going to try to ban. they worked on that and they didn t have the votes to do it. they did it it almost every single year when barack obama was in office except for maybe the last year, and every time they came up short. they claimed it was the nra s fault. they said that the political will wasn t there. they said how many more people are going to have to die, but ultimately a lot of times when they were claiming that guns were evil and bad, they were guns they just didn t like the paint color and didn t understand how they worked. jason, can you name any legislation that took people s guns away? no, because let me just translate from what ben was saying. the answer that he meant to give you was no, because that didn t happen. that s just some stuff. it failed. everybody made up. no, the truth is that what he doesn t want to say is the same thing that the nra doesn t want to say. they don t want to say the word background checks because the majority of americans want that. furthermore, as somebody who took on the nra in missouri i can tell you that nra members disagree with the nra on issues like background checks. so what i guess ben is talking about is after a bunch of little children were killed the president decided it would be a good idea if criminals and terrorists and the mentally ill didn t have the same right to buy a gun as the three of us. you know what? i think the president was right about that. not true. the nra came out and talked about having mental illness background checks and having help for those with mental illnesses and having transparency. they made a show of it. they didn t want to show the gun show loophole or internet sales and you know that. can you explain to me what the gun show loophole is? explain to me what that is? you can go and find a purchaser. it is where the same background that s not accurate. what state are you talking about? i can t explain it, all right. no, what i m saying is you always use. ben, if you re going to ask him a question if you re going to ask me a question, ben you have to give him time to answer it. he doesn t want to hear the answer, don, is because the truth is that the nra is not an organization about the membership or about rights. the nra is an organization that is about profits. as somebody who has run for office, i can tell you when you get your candidate questionnaire from the nra what it actually is asking about mostly is not the rights of citizens. what it is asking about is the rights of gun companies to sell guns. it is about selling guns. that s not accurate. it will do that even if it means selling guns. go ahead. let me say this. have you been to an nra meeting of any type at any point in your entire life? no. okay. so i have. i have never been to an nra meeting but i come from a state i have been to about 75 of them. let me finish my point. i ve been to about 75, my dad is in law enforcement, i grew up around guns and used a gun twice to save my life from people who shot at me. i was in the united states army. i ll stipulate we both know about guns. don t act as if somehow you know what the nra does when you have never been to one single meeting. the nra and the millions of members they have would say yeah, i will will let me finish. i will will. would say they represent them well. if they didn t they wouldn t have millions of members. when you say they only represent their own pockets, which is not accurate, or they only represent the gun lobbyists, which is not accurate, they represent people just like me, average americans that actually have a gun and want to protect their right to own it. go ahead, jason. okay. quickly, please. i m almost out of town. the reason the nra is against criminal background check, against reasonable reforms they re not. and and the reason their members are disagreeing on it is because people that s not true. people have experience of talking to frank lickliter ks like i have. i spent time with sandy hook survivors. people understand that you shouldn t have the same right to buy a gun if you have a criminal record or if you re a terrorist. that s what this country overwhelming majority of americans including nra members include. thank you all. i ve got to go. i m out of time. sorry. thank you. when we come back, late night tv getting the last laugh on the trump administration night after night. w kamal bell joins me with the best of late night laughs. first here is a look at a photo-op. late night comedians had a field day. this was day 22 in this memorially longhand shake with japan s prime minister. kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how s your mom? 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[ laughter ] i mean i was really surprised. he s talking about grand plans of white ethno state and bringing the country back to white people and got hung up by black james bond i don t think his white ethno state stands a chance while at the same time two doors down from donald trump and steve bannon. also we show immigrants and refugees who inspire americans the right way. i had a friend who had got hung up, said james bond is white and i m like first of all james bon bond is a fictional chashlgt. character. what do you want people to know about this season? that this season if you liked season one this season is really a step up. i think it s smarter, funnier. because of the currency of the country it has a lot more heart. season one was the mixed tape this is the album. oh, okay. yeah that s right. the album drops. sunday at 10:00. thank you sir by the way. thank you. the new season of united shades of america drops sunday at 10:00 p.m. on cnn. and anthony bourdain at 9. when we come back more on the president s first hundred days in office and his business style is it working in washington. we continue to look back at most memorable moments, like this amazing image the president having fun in the driver s seat of a big rig after meeting with members of the american trump association that was day 63 by the way. t to be focusing on my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults taking humira were clear or almost clear, and many saw 75% and even 90% clearance in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. ask about humira, the #1 prescribed biologic by dermatologists. clearer skin is possible. i m dr. kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. energy lives here.
have ultimately been a decision that two men came to at the same time. whether or not there was some thought, and if there was not consider about making the administration s life and the president s life more difficult, he might have been left it. kelly was said to have delivered the news. it is unclear and unknown, it s a wild card. he goes outside independently. steve bannon is now a household name. there is people that will be upset that he left this white house. i talked to a bannon ally earlier this week. they said we had a sense this is coming and we look at this white house now and we see new york democrats and generals. that is not what we worked for in 2016. steve bannon is the leader of a coalition and it remains to be seen. let me bring in jennifer reuben. the author of the post, so your paper is quoting friends of steve bannon s assayi saying lo he can help the president s agenda from the outside, that things were not working on the inside. gabe sherman reports something very different that he will go back to breitbart and become a thorn in the side of gabe sherman. which way do you see it. they try to occupy that space. and in the area that he is trying to drift back, the more antagonistic they will become. so i think they need to occupy that pace for business reasons. that is where fans are and that is how they made their name. she to figure out what he wants to be when he grows up if he wants to, he doesn t have a concrete agenda or ideology. as strong as mr. kelly has been. he doesn t bring content either. there is a big question mark about what is donald trump without steve bannon? i want to bring in the director of progressive programming. nancy pelosi put out a statement and it reads steve bannon s firing is welcome news but it does hide that donald trump stands on bigoted beliefs. i think he showed this week that the problem is not steve ban non. they clearly come from his heart, and steve ban nonis certainly running bright bart. the platform for the alt-right. and that is a quote, and certainly donald trump panders to that constituency. but donald trump believes some of these things that are so upseatiu upsetting to americans. it sounds like it is a good thing, but let s not presend the white house is a better place. donald trump is his own man. i think it is good that steve ban nonis out of the white house, but i don t believe he is the problem. that is certainly aligned, but without him he will still believe those things. bannon s departure marks the fourth senior aid to have left the white house in the last few weeks. as people have been telling folks from inside the white house, saying this is inevitable, or is it a sign that john kelly, while he may not be able to get control with the president s words, he can t control every tweet, he is at least structurally taking charge of this white house. it might be a sign of that. it is an indication here that this is something that kelly wanted. maybe he was not aware that he was doing it. maybe kelly has to do this i think there are a couple x factors. we see people all of the time that move from inside his inner circle to the outside but they maintain proximity with him. if we re looking at just bannon, does it argue for the possibility that he doesn t go out and go to breitbart and become the enemy of the white house and uses that influence and the power of the platform that is brietbart and is trying to get through the things that he cares about. i think there is a middle ground between he goes out and bashes donald trump or he doesn t do all of that. i think it could put him in a place. it could be that he goes back to a media platform and he becomes a voice of some of the people around donald trump. you go back 30 years to the early days. he was so popular with the conservative base. so what they would do is they would give their policy and he would say i m just letting them be themselves. he would call them globalists or whatever. he is attacking them, but not donald trump, he says i love you, i love what you re trying to do, and these guys are keeping grow doing it. and he was in a very nasty civil war. let me ask you and your take on th that. do you see steve ban nonsnon sai can if you look at the cia director, general mattis, joe dunford. this is the best national security team of my lifetime. he is a he puts together teams of his executives, his political side was not working as well. i believe that he is in. wendy: president kamp david this weekend and at his side will be nick ayers who is a genius in republican circles. if you graph the ayers understanding of the congressional republican party under the john kelly ability to execute, command, and control, along with this nation nag security team, i think people that want the president to suck se succeed, and i m one of them, they will be es tatic that it looks like it will be emerged i want to just advantage for you a second. she heard the same thing that i have heard. . even when they are upset about what he tweets, says, and does, if they think he is not acting yes. he is surrounding himself with good people. you re saying what other people have said. he surrounded himself with his team. national security. he is the commander and chief. you can surround yourself with the biggest geniuses in the world. if you don t understand the way the world works, if you can t make the deep dive, to have the good decisions and right conversations, you can surround yourself with anybody and will it matter. my question to you is is too much being put on the backs of people like gary cohen, these generals for our national securit security. you and i are both lake eerie people. and the weather can change in a moment up there we both have anecdotal evidence. it was not his finest hour. but they want why are they still with him? number one, they hate us, they hate everyone on television because they do not see themselves reflected on television, talking fairly about the president, like the big north korea win, for the first time in over 15 years, north korea backed down and scrolled itself away. it is a huge win. he announced he will drop out of the deal soon. i think you have seen more with the fox con announcements. the amazon ihirings. i think the trump base is a little intimidating. against being pro trump is still there and resolute and they re welcoming what appears to be refurbishment, but also policy and intellectually. and they re cheering that john kelly is there and in charge and they will have a nick ayers ability to work. probably the happiest guy is mitch mcconnell. you need to be able to work with the west wing and the president. the question is who will be there to work with. where will steve bannon go? what will he do? we also have eric wemple with his ion sights on all of this, back after this. then the chronic, widespread pain slowed me down. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain. he also prescribed lyrica. fibromyalgia is thought to be the result of overactive nerves. lyrica is believed to calm these nerves. woman: for some, lyrica can significantly relieve fibromyalgia pain and improve function, so i feel better. lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or blurry vision. common side effects: dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, swelling of hands, legs and feet. don t drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don t drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. with less pain, i can be more active. ask your doctor about lyrica. i can b more active. 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all right, we don t have a connection there, we lost the connection, let me go to eric wemple at the washington post. what are you hearing went went down here? he may be returning to his. mu perch at the top of breitbart. that was the position which he ran this website. it was very much big on the ideology that he favors. which is, you know nationalist, antifree trade, antiglobalist. a hard line on immigration. and those are the positions that he had a mind held with president trump on. and as pointed out in the book devils bargain. they were casting about for a candidate that agreed with him and he found one in trump. i think his departure from the white house detainee mean much for the trump agenda. i think he will continue to believe the things he believes. trump may be lacking a person on staff that really goads him into more extreme positions. kurt is back on the phone now, sorry we lost you, what do you think is next for steve bannon? exactly what he set out to do, which is destroy the establishment. take down all of the pillars of political correctness. continue his assault against the media. i expect them to go full force. you know, he is a very bombastic and driven in person, and in many ways i feel like living the leaving the white house will be different for him. working in the white house, answers to anybody, steve is not meant to work for anyone. and i think it was a handicap to him, now he will be able to operate freely. but the speaking out and agenda, that s who we will see more of now. is it the president and the people you naked like the paul ryans? and just how powerful of an enemy have they created? you know, i don t know if it is a full tilt negative, the west wing globalists as he came to recognize them. gary cohen. they fix sate on these personalities, and they fix sate on those personalities. he would be steering away from the agenda that we elected them on and i think you will see that kind of targeted approach in the beginning. thank you for that. i want to bring back in eric wemple. peter king, the new york congressman said he should go, roger stone said he should go. anthony scaramucci, not that he has any france at the white house, he also was a voice, but the new york times reported that there was a push by the head of fox, rupert murdoch. what do you know about his influence in the ousting of steve ban non. i think it may have as much to do with john kelly and his ascension to the chief of staff roll as anything else. you know it is interesting you bring up murdoch, now bannon is outside of the white house, but as kirk or anyone would tell you donald trump has a cell phone he can continue talking to steve bannon. donald trump is terribly undisciplined. he will continue to go around the efforts of his aides to funnel information to him. steve bannon could be as much of a influence on the outside as he is on the inside. at the same time directing the machinery of breitbart against these sort of mainstream republican politician that s are really where his heart lies. this could be the best of both words for steve bannon as far as his agenda is concerned. it will be fascinating to watch how the media agenda on the right does settle in. you have someone that had a back and forth relationship with this president but you have a son who in the last 24 hours released a critical statement. gave a million dollar donation, had harsh words about the president of the united states. we heard some of the fox anchors in the aftermath being highly critical. how does the media landscape look to you and where does that go in terms of what we have already seen at least some movement of his base away from the strong approval of donald trump? i think on the right, if you look at the conservative media landscape, you re reintroducing him as a media kingpin on the right. maybe that goes back to breitbart or launching something else. there is a lot of thought right knew it will end up with steve bannon running a immediate why outlet. what you will see on display is two very differently powerful strings of conservatism. the conservatism that rupert murdoch has advocated is the conservatism of free trade. of immigration reform. it is the conservatism of globalism. then you steve bannon saying the trade deals are bad. a lot of republican friendly outlets have been trying to figure out how to navigate it and you see that with fox. the wall street editorial page, you still see the old school murdomu murdoch globalism. he is taking a very strong position and i think we re looking to see if she going to war with trump. i think he is not going after trump, but she going after the globalists in the administration, and the evidence that we have is that donald trump doesn t much mind when his people are sniping at each other in the media. as long as it is loyalty to him. you also have a situation where there is not discontent, but the lack of a settled feeling. in the conservative media landscape. you have a james murdoch giving a million dollars to the antidefamation league. and speaking firmly about it. congressman king is welcoming in. you don t have the steve bannon in the white house, but this is not like a week like any other week. what happened on tuesday i think is changing the conversation around this white house, this president, and you had a president staid there on tuesday and say there was been there and there was mine people standing along the nazis. i have so many people that watched that on tuesday and it changed their view on the president. they didn t think he really believed some of these things. i think this week, searchly the drama about who will be around the president, staffing him in the white house, is interesting in this moment. i think beyond this, i think the conversation has become serious and larger than who was staffing the president. what s the headline on your next column? doesm bannon go to war with trump? they had a srelationship that oe of them could not have gotten to the white house without the other. if he attacks all of the preserved opponents, will he rip apart the republican party. he will go out there and wage war, even if the president doesn t. against dean heller, and paul ryan as they go to 2018. he will make the president s life miserable at the same time he is whispering in trump s ear saying keep at it. that is a good issue for you. i think you re seeing the unwinding of the entire pop list movement that doesn t have a end point other than a disaster. it has an end point on what we have seen this tuesday in charlottesville. there is no there there in terms of the pop list agenda. the rest of it is just a hodgepodge of zenophobia, antii m grant, but it is really about the culture wars and about race. donald trump has always been about that. he was from his days in new york, and he still is. this is what he truly believes in his heart. he doesn t care what his positions are. he wants to be in touch with the vibe that he tapped into which is white resentment. that will continue i think whether bannon is out there or not. i disagree with hew hewitt when he says congress will be applauding, but no. they will have part of the original base that is now not going to turn out for them in november of 2018. not going to support them. they re going to look at a semidisaster. it will not rid them of this nox sh nox noxious element. thank you, jennifer reuben, we will look for that column. when we come back, we re going to kacamp david. the business of government going forward. we ll talk about that when we come back. i don t really have a comment on what mr. bannon s remarks were in that particular interview. i think we have been quite clear what the policy and posture toward north korea is. the secretary of state talking about that wide ranging and shocking interview that steve bannon gave. he said he didn t realize he was on the record. joining me now by phone, talking about the developments and steve ban nonbeing gone, so receistev went on to the american prospect website. what follows is the article that likely pushed steve ban non, the architect of his white nationalist messaging out of the white house door. is that what happened here? it is certainly important. i think his continued service on the white house was not just unpaletteble and impossible for general kelly. how can he have that claim when the senior advisor to the president of the united states is picking up the phone, talking to magazines, reversing american policy on north korea. under mines the secretary of state, and responsible for running, i think, which is widely held knowledge a smear campaign against the national security advisor. we heard two looks at this. one is that it was the president who really could not stand the self grandisement. and that they didn t like the chaos being caused. needed to stop the fighting, and you can add on to that interview that he gave, is there anything here to you, steve, that is a sign that the president somewhere here recognizes that he needs a reset here. . there is none until it addresses the false moral equivalency between the nazi movement and the people there peacefully protesting. here is what steve bannon represents. this is as close as we have been. there is a trump party, a republican party, and a democratic party. the republican party tried to fuse with the democratic party. all of that has fallen apart. we increasingly have the leaders that panicked into silence. like bob corker showing moral courage, coming out, talking about his lack of stability. but at any rate, there is fusion between trumpism, the bright bart wing, and the republican party. all of the winks and nods to the racist elements that took place in this disgusting campaign is all out in the open in and out. the republican party cannot survive fused to a nationalist party that counts it s fellow travelers as members of the neo nazi unit and the kkk there are no good cancer cells. no good neo nazis. the republican leaders have a moral obligation to address the false equivalents. they bear witness to the magnitude of the crimes. so beyond the span of the li lifetimes of those that survived that they tried to understand the mag any due of the human suffering. to that though, steve, this doesn t seem, to me, does it change the equation at all? no, no. it was the president that came out that said finally, and then did that off the cuff press conference when he was not supposed to be answering questions at all and said what he said. this opens a new act in politics. it is a life and death struggle now for the republican party. steve bannon will go to breitbart, and he will be the chief intellectual and prop beg propgandist. but it is a world view pilled if con fear sis, dark forces working together. the globalist, the insinuations, and now what we know is with the legitimateization of these groups by the president s moral equivalen equivalents, their inspired, they feel they have been mainstreamed and put into the american political debate as a party with legitimate claims. now when they march increasingly, they march with the view that they have been sanctified by the president of the united states if is an extraordinary moment in american politics and now that alliance, that doing whistle that san francisco frankly in the campaign was a blow foreihorn. when he takes over and seeks to dominate is and silence members into submission. but to a titanic political battle has arrived in america around a fundamental question of american ideals. and whether you re a liberal democrat or conservative republican, you should find common pause standing on the side of american ideals versus the ideals of white supremacists, hate groups, and what we found to be the profound moral failure. and the false moral equivalency on it s intentions. steve schmidt, thank you as always. we will talk now about what happens at the white house and who will take his place. we ll be right back. so why wouldn t you take something for the most important part of you. your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember. her long day as anne. hair stylist starts with shoulder pain when. hey joanne, want to trade the all day relief of 2 aleve with 6 tylenol? 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