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hush money trial. first, jon meacham, i don't want to ever be melodramatic on things like this, but that saturday vote was one that will be remembered for quite some time. it certainly will be remembered by our european allies who were beginning to question whether america was still in the fight for freedom. >> i think it was remarkable. i think that i know it may not be popular in a polarized time to say so, but i think the speaker of the house did exactly the right thing. there was a good "new york times" piece about how he got there. if you read that piece, you see it was a case where he educated himself. he listened to people who knew more than he did. did not prejudge it in the end. it's a reminder that, you know, so much of the time, if you
have to confront these legal challenges that have been looming over him. things might start to move. what do you see that we've seen this in a few recent elections to be they congressional midterm more general election primary voters and general voters are very different, right? >> you have these loyalists and primary voters who are going to back the former president, almost no matter what. but we have polling. we talked to focus groups where voters who are outside of the base say, if he's convicted, i'm not sure that i'm going to back him. and now we're getting close so to that possibly happening. and we also see more voters paying attention now and being reminded of what happened during the trump presidency. and they're deciding, i don't know if i want to go back to this. >> did you have a sense that what unfolded last week actually started to break through with people. i mean, the other piece of this and thank here's some members of republican members of congress. we should say defenders have donald trump allude to this, but they will say that like voters don't distinguish and sarah longwell, who's, who's on with us at regularly. she talks to trump voters as well.
republican stand up. by the way, the middle stood up to both fringes, because the left fringe and right fringe voted against something we all know is right for the country. all while a president, whether you like him or not, is sitting under trial, under our system of judicial process. good week for americans. >> to elise's question, also, donny, we have no idea what impact he could have in the weeks and months to come. he has had impact before in the political process, but right now, trump is in court. all day, almost every day of the week. he's obsessed with what's happening in court. he's extremely distracted. i think it has muted his ability to be involved in every piece of what's happening in washington because he is obsessed with his own ability to stay out of jail or other things, but just obsessed with what's in front of him. >> we all would. >> complete control over the way he behaves for eight hours a
happy to say and joins us now. welcome. it is good to have you with us. your piece is very moving on the free press this morning. what was going on when you were there? what did you see all around you and what happened? >> sure, of course. over the past week or so at yale, anti-semitic student protestors have taken over a central plaza on our campus setting up a tent encampment, among other things. pictures to commemorate terrorists and this culminated in multiple nights of overnight encampment in the central plaza and protests with hundreds of people. i think it was 500 when i came on saturday night. as soon as i was identified with my friend, who wears a black hat as visibly orthodox jewish students i was immediately blockaded by protest organizers and everywhere i walked there
which he had to pay time for will be central to this case against donald trump. >> i think michael cohen is likely to be a wash here, in that he's going to put in a lot of good evidence for the prosecution and really serve as a narrator, but he's going to be cross-examined aggressively. they're going to go after him, his credibility, his motives here, the fact that he has a book called "revenge." they'll likely him being a pivotal witness is unlikely. he's going to be a narrator. with jurors, you're not just telling a broad story. you have to meet each element. every time, what would a reasonable person think in looking at this? what would be the reasonable question they would have about a piece of evidence? what would be expected corroboration. it's in those details, those small witnesses that corroborate, not necessarily what happened, but just that somebody was in the building.
saturday. it was, despite all of the rigmarole and the anti-johnson chatter, which is coming from thest voices in the room, a historic and joyful day. people walking out of the chamber and realizing that johnson had this evolution. there is an incredible piece about the evolution of the johnson that started in december and january, when he decided he wanted to become more of a reagan republican and was able to ultimately push this through. of course, it came with some pain, but there were important pressure points along the way. as joe pointed out, this decision was largely, in part, due to the three mikes, mike mccaul, turner, and -- i'm blanking on the third mike here -- basically, the three mikes that run the senate -- the house intelligence committees, house foreign affairs
what is going on? two men who were arrested about _ what is going on? two men who were arrested about a _ what is going on? two men who were arrested about a year— what is going on? two men who were arrested about a year ago _ what is going on? two men who were arrested about a year ago were - arrested about a year ago were charged today after what was described as a complex investigation by the metropolitan police. christopher berry, 32, christopher cash, 29, charged under the official secrets act of 1911, section one. which refers to obtaining our passing documents or information which might be directly or indirectly useful to an enemy. that is the language that was used in that official secrets act which has now been replaced by a new piece of legislation, a national security act, but the alleged offences in this case to place before that you act took place so they come under this official secrets act. the men were arrested nearly a year ago and in use of their arrest emerged last september, at that time christopher
campaign and all these things, and we haven't gotten to yet what's on the piece of paper? what's on the documents? why does it say legal services? what's interesting is that's not as fascinating for a jury. you have to prove up this whole secondary narrative and then later on we're going to get to those boring documents. i think if you lock the jury into that first story and they believe that donald trump was directing and overseeing this conspiracy to interfere with the election, when you get to those documents, it's a lot easier for a jury see why those documents say what they say. those 34 counts can almost become a box checking exercise if you believe that initial experience about that the election. i think that's why we're seeing it in this order. >> vaughn, a familiar name the prosecution just mentioned, allen weisselberg who is not going to be testifying but is one they just brought up. >> reporter: allen weisselberg was the chief financial officer for the trump organization, and folks will recall literally two weeks ago we were standing at
apparently at one point president trump nudged one of his lawyers to look at a piece of paper and whatever was on the paper and laughed and trump turned to to the other one and he nodded. talk with your lawyers to communicate. from inside the courtroom he has been looking straight ahead the whole time. they did read the transcript of that access hollywood tape. it won't be played so it had to be read by the district attorney folks in there, martha. >> martha: interesting they included that in their opening statement as well. >> dana: it was a heck of a monday morning to get us started on a busy week. we have you covered with all of the breaking news from the universities across the country dealing with anti-semitism and, of course, the trump trial. martha, thank you. see you at 3:00. here is harris.
transportation, increasingly, we're ramping up our plastic production. every piece of plastic that we have ever made is still in the environment because it never degrades. >> former assistant secretary of state for oceans and international environmental and scientific affairs, monica medina. and coordinator of noaa's coral reef program, thank you for coming on. >> so important on this earth day. ahead, we're continuing to follow donald trump's historic criminal trial as opening statements are set to begin in just a few hours. he will be back in court. plus, a "new york times" investigation finds 23 top chinese swimmers tested positive for a banned substance ahead of the tokyo olympics. but they were still allowed to compete. we'll talk to one of the reporters behind that article. and democratic senator reverend raphael warnock will be our guest as the senate takes up