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there is no war on terror. this is a criminal matter. the attorney general should be prosecuting crime. he shouldn't be involved in prosecuting a war on terror. and i think for some republicans who thought president obama campaigned. he was in the senate briefly. he campaigned as somebody who wanted to fight basically the war on terror as a criminal matter, there was some hope i think that with two years in office, having seen attempted attacks on the u.s. homeland, having been involved in the predator drone strikes in pakistan. having had to really fight the war, that president obama might have understood better that this is in fact a war. that it is not merely a criminal matter. i think what the nomination of or the recess appointment of james cole suggests that president obama does not understand that and all of the things that republicans have said about him wanting to ice this as a law enforcement matter are correct. rick: i wonder how much politics comes into play here? it certainly does with most things that come out of washington but this is a man, james cole, who spent a lot
has about pakistan's isi. the specific mentions of named operatives in meetings in pakistan's tribal areas. >> right. >> it is the volume and the detail of the documents that were striking to us. >> another story that seems to me that may bubble up as a result of this has to do with the success or failure of the predator drone strikes and what i found fascinating of your reporting of the papers had to do with the fact that maybe they aren't nearly as successful as administration officials would like to lead us to believe. >> yes. the documents are fascinating in their account of the drones, the omnipresence of the drones. they -- as we have reported and everyone has reported, they have very successful missions and also crash a lot. and, sometimes they miss their targets. so, there is -- it is not an unmitigated success story. however, what is amazing is in many ways it's become a remote-controlled war both in
fighting terror by whether or not they use the word "radical islam," yes, they changed. i think it's a small change. it's fine to say radical islam and make the distinction which the administration is try hard to make, not about islam itself or islam the religion but about a certain subset of people who are distorting islam purposes. but i think that this president has been very active and energetic and he called more predator drone strikes than ever before. he prosecuted the war on terror, pretty vigorously. what he hasn't done is adopt the rhetoric of the predecessor. >> bret: you remember the back-and-forth that attorney general holder had on capitol hill asked about radical islam and he refused to say it. >> the fact that the president used it now is the answer to the question how long does it take for the president to acknowledge the blindingly obvious? the answer is 18 months.
you measure the administration seriousness in fighting terror by whether or not they use the word "radical islam," yes, they changed. i think it's a small change. it's fine to say radical islam and make the distinction which the administration is try hard to make, not about islam itself or islam the religion but about a certain subset of people who are distorting islam purposes. but i think that this president has been very active and energetic and he called more predator drone strikes than ever before. he prosecuted the war on terror, pretty vigorously. what he hasn't done is adopt the rhetoric of the predecessor. >> bret: you remember the back-and-forth that attorney general holder had on capitol hill asked about radical islam and he refused to say it. >> the fact that the president used it now is the answer to the question how long does it take for the president to acknowledge the
help it but replay the entire incident in my head all day. i've gotten a lot more jumpy than i've ever been in my life. any time somebody slams a door or anything like that, i just jump. ut puts me in a panic mode. >> i'm sure we'll be hearing more stories like this, too. thanks for joining us to night. good to see you gentlemen. >> thank you very much. >> next up sshgts united states gearing up for new predator drone strikes against the pakistani taliban? and are those type of attacks actually putting us at more risk for terror? plus, some of the top supreme plus, some of the top supreme about elena kagan. 0 years, toyota has been proud to be a model of quality car making. but recently, the safety of our cars and trucks has come under question. and at toyota, this is something we don't take lightly. that's why we're making fundamental changes
officer, one of the things we're taught to do, spot, assess, recruit. spot vulnerability, assess for use and recruit them for the purpose. we're dealing with this thing on a much different level. we have to consider this as part of the overall af-pak conflict. if we don't, if we leave there now i think we'll creating circumstance for larger after tacks in the future. jon: let me play devil's advocate and spout the line a lot of people say, which is the u.s. has tens of thousands of troops in afghanistan. it has been carrying out predator drone strikes. >> right. jon: in pakistan against, you know, taliban and related officials. and it would only be natural that we should expect some blow back from that. >> oh absolutely. you have to understand, i'm not pro-the method we're using right now for the predator drones. i think we need to go in there or better yet, the pakistanis need to go in there and clean house. don't forget these elements are, pakistanis anymore.
the latest analysis. jim. >> david, you know, there's no question that al qaeda leadership and the ability to conduct major operations like the one carried out on 9/11 here in the united states has been severely weakened by a very aggressive, longstanding, long-running campaign by the u.s. particularly the cia which has stepped up its predator drone strikes in western pakistan in the past year, year and a half. and as leon panetta, the director of the cia, said, in an extraordinary revelation, public revelation, that the cia intercepted a message from al qaeda lieutenants to osama bin laden himself pleading with bin laden to please provide some leadership, indicating that al qaeda is in deep disarray. but david, counterterrorism officials will say we've seen this played out before where there are other instances where it's clear that al qaeda is in
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