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politics was all about shaking down the president of ukraine to make up lies and dirt about his opponent or paying hush money to keep the truth out of the mainstream of public opinion or inciting a violent insurrection to overthrow an election and to try to conduct a coup against the peaceful transfer of power. most politicians don't behave like that and if you don't may of like that, you might not be the richest person in the world and might not get to own your own hotels and islands and so on, but you can serve people and that's what it's about. the minute a politician no longer act like a servant of the people, but rather master of the people like a monarch or king, that is the people to reject, convict, impeach, prosecute, get them out of the way because democracy is all about serving the people. those of us who aspire and attain a public office are
should i go to first on the. >> that's worse. which white person on this panel >> which white person would know the most about this. did charles make a point at all? >> know his last name is blow, enough said. [ laughter ] anybody who does anything creative or do anything that they don't like because it's not their god, they say racist. it's a lazy, what else do you have? there racist against who? and here's the trump before he ran for office everybody wanted to be like president trump, use on posters, it did not matter good be households or college dorms, scarface up and that you have president trump, money, money, money or you are fired. something like that and we all wanted it. he was so over it so i guess home alone two is a racist movie. because not only was he on there
potential recusal from justices alito and thomas which i know you have written about and advocated on strongly, what are you expecting from the supreme court in terms of the immunity ruling and what should the public understand about what impact that might have on this verdict today and other pending cases against trump? >> the main thing we can expect from it is delay and postponement. that is clearly the political logic that was operating when the supreme court didn't summarily affirm a brilliant d.c. circuit court bipartisan decision which held, of course, the president is not above the law. of course, the president cannot order out for assassinations and remain immune from prosecution so long as he's not impeached and convicted in the senate, something that has never happened in our history with our four impeachments that
this was the very last thing i had thought that i would be reporting to the president, on this day or any other day. i called the white house, told him that "we don't know a lot, but we have just lost shuttle columbia." this was my duty, to be responsible for this accident. ♪ my fellow americans, this day has brought terrible news and great sadness to our country. the columbia's lost. there are no survivors. ♪ all americans today are thinking, as well, of the families of these men and women who have been given this sudden shock and grief. you're not alone. our entire nation grieves with you and those you loved will always have the respect and gratitude of this country.
i just have one more question. but a lot of the reason that this is being greeted with three inch headlines in every country. it is not necessarily because everybody is totally engaged with the substance of the falsifying of the business record. to the commission of another crime. the actual details of this is not what is driving it. driving is that he is the first president to be convicted and what is he going to do. we are worried about what trump might demand or expect supporters to do in response to this. the extralegal protection and violence is very much front of line for the future of our democracy. i would like to hear what you think about that and how you calibrate that and how you have dealt with what i know has been the anxiety around the threat
tell you is that i don't think either side is going to get exactly what they want, i don't think the federal prosecutors are going to get the supreme court to say there's no such thing as presidential immunity and i don't think the trump side will get a decision it says that everything a president does is okay. they have to find out what the contours are of presidential immunity. it has nothing to do with conviction at least procedurally, this will be appeal directly to the appellate court of appeals in the new york state court system. >> when you wake up, it's nice to have danny answer questions like that, it was nice and had a lot of information and lisa you were in court the whole time. for those of us not in court, we got a lot of flavor about trump falling asleep, and bodily functions, things like this but we didn't know how this was going to go with the
as a way for him to deflect. it is the biden administration. the biden administration is weaponize against me because i'm leading in all the polls. the whole nine yards that he does. that is a donald trump. he is deflecting. because he knows what he did. and just part of the statement from rachel. jeffrey acknowledged that the department of justice, the main justice reached out to the southern district of new york to whitewash donald trump's name from any of the allegations. they wanted to go back in time and undo the sentence that i'd already pled guilty to. in order to whitewash donald trump's name out of it. that is the most dangerous thing that anybody could ever do. especially as a president to weaponize. let me tell you. this is very dangerous for what is potentially coming down the road. if in fact, god forbid that donald would end up back in the
when he said i want the supreme court to get involved, what is he talking about? >> there's no guarantee any direct appeal or any appeal from this conviction would land at the supreme court. it might if constitutional issues are raised but it's not an appeal, there's not even an appeal to the highest state appellate court in the state of new york which is called the court of appeals. so you need a federal constitutional reason to get into the supreme court. >> does that not apply to this, he was not president during the things that he was alleged to have done. >> he was when he wrote the checks that reimbursed michael cohen. some of the events happened after the election but to the extent, the immunity issue could potentially affect all of these cases. it's not likely to affect this case and we really don't know what the supreme court is going to say on the immunity case. so we are waiting, and all i can
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and this is how they are covering this. this is all front-page. this is "the new york times" he is guilty on all counts. and " the washington post ". and this is okay usa today" and trump guilty on all counts. and " the wall street journal" and here is " the tampa bay times at". he becomes the first former u.s. president. and here is the l.a. times. and " political". trump guilty. " the boston globe". the same. and here is his hometown paper, the queens daily eagle. queens man convicted. the cover of the next issue of " the new yorker". the title is a man of conviction. they detail with his little hands and large handcuffs.