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to get away with this for a long enough period of time. he is our worst nightmare. ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to "very scary people." i'm donnie wahlberg. from may 1987 to april 1992, there were a series of rapes, abductions, and murders of young women just north of u.s.-canadian border. authorities from several cities in ontario and fbi profilers from the united states joined forces to try and capture those responsible for the vicious attacks. who was behind these horrific crimes?
manipulative, controlling, domineering, and astute enough to get away with this for a long enough period of time. he is our worst nightmare. ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to "very scary people." i'm donnie wahlberg. from may 1987 to april 1992, there were a series of rapes, abductions, and murders of young women just north of u.s.-canadian border. authorities from several cities in ontario and fbi profilers from the united states joined forces to try and capture
luring them in as a client. and then in a couple of cases, he uses long after they're dead, he uses the victim's phone to call the family and say, you know, you're not going to see her again. here's why i murdered her. you know, here's how i murdered her. the extraordinarily cruelty to commit these kinds of murders and then to relive them essentially by torturing the family over the phone is really what is suggestive, anderson, that they're going to find more in this search. that suggests he's the kind of person who's very attached to these crimes and would have been likely to keep trophies, as the profilers call it, individual possessions of some of his victims. >> also i understand some of his wife's dna was found on the scene. he would have somehow had a hair or something from his wife and transferred it to one of the victims. >> that's right. in one of the earliest dna
what he is, and i think the turning point at the moment there, you see that he is praying on sex workers, strangling them to death after luring them in as a client. then a couple of cases, he uses long after they are dead, uses the victims phone to call the family and say, you're not going to see her again, here is why i murdered her. here's how i murdered her. the extraordinary cruelty to commit the kinds of murders and then to let them succeed by touching the family over the phone is really is what is suggested, anderson, that they find more in the search because that suggests is the person who is very attached to the crimes and would have been elected to keep trophies as the profilers. individual positions of some of the victims.
>> rex heuermann, architecture and troubleshooter. born and raised on long island and working in manhattan since 1987. >> martha: jack, what do you think? does this man fit the profile of what these crimes are? >> that's a good point martha, and unfortunately there is no profile. i saw that the fbi profilers looked at this case and worked with the investigators on this case. and hear more about that in the coming days what their profile was on this individual. unfortunately it could be the person next door to you. living a normal life. as we know now father of two, married. and alleged some crimes might have taken place while wife away. and i don't know the ages of the children but another matter to be considered. >> martha: yeah, their world is rocked today, good to see you
he is well educated and well spoken. he is financially secure. he has a job and owns an expensive car or truck. he may have sought treatment at a hospital for a poison ivy as part of his job or interests. he has access to or stockpile of burlap sacks, unquote. that is a rather specific profile and if he's ultimately responsible, incredibly accurate, how did forensic profilers go about making these predictions? where did the poison ivy thing come from? >> well, these are really not predictions. what they've done is they obtained from investigators at the time all investigative reports, all the photographs. they developed all the victimology so they were -- they looked at all the forensic laboratory reports. so from all of that information, that's what givings them the foundation to be able to say this is how we interpret all of this evidence as they put it
between the cia turncoat and robert pitts, robert hanssen and others searching for what were the common traits between these men who turned on their country to figure out how can we see them ahead of time and people like satloff at virginia university, you know, worked with fbi profilers to try to develop that and that will also ab a work in progress. >> so interesting. john miller, thank you. eric o'neill,fascinating. what has not happened in more than 130 years that prince harry did in a courtroom today. ♪ ♪
common traits between these men, who turned on their country, to figure out how can we see them ahead of time, and people people like verdun sattloff at virginia university worked with fbi pollers profilers to try to develop. that -- >> john miller, eric, thank you, very fascinating. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> plus, up -- did today at the london courtroom that has not happen in more than 130 years.
simply saying, until we have that dna match, maybe blood from the suspect on one of the victims or the other way around, we can't say for certain. but they're handling it as if they're connected. >> i mean, they have, i believe, stopped all in-person classes after dusk, basically. >> well, what you have here is a night stalker. and when you see those crimes so close together, you really have to operate on the assumption that he's engaging in what profilers call hunting behavior. that he goes out every night looking for victims in a situation where he thinks he can commit the crime and get away. you know, the first victim was a well-known homeless man and advocate, who was committed to sleeping outdoors in that park and engaging with people. the second victim was a 20-year-old student, but walking at night on a bike path with his long hair and beard could have been mistaken by the offender as a homeless person. the third victim was a homeless woman in a tent. so you're seeing a possible
he advised people to institute a buddy system. don't go out alone at night. all of these attacks, so far, have happened at night. the chief was asked if he would, perhaps, introduce a curfew. he said that would be an extraordinary measure that would shutdown the city. we are not quite ready yet. and the curfew would take a lot of policing to enforce, and right now they are upping patrols and trying to keep as many officers as possible on the manhunt. the fbi is also involved and the local police say they hope they will get criminal profilers from the fbi involved to try and figure out if what they are looking at here is a serial killer. back to you. >> nick, tell us about the victims. one of them was known in the community for his compassion. >> yeah, this was a guy, the chief says he was a homeless man and well known in the community. he would walk around town asking