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never mind the jury. so the key for us, and in fact for donald trump's case against all these individuals as we got the connection between hillary clinton to robby's testimony and the connection between the fbi, comey, mccabe, all of them, peter strzok, and how they hid his identity from agents when they asked to find out who the close hold source was. these are all critical and prove the collusion. that's what frankly i got out of this, which is more important to me and sussmann behind bars. >> sean: and you know, devin, the whole time you got it right. your counterpart, the congenital wire, got it wrong, lied to the american people. what did you take away from this trial and where do you think durham is actually headed here? seems like he understands this was more than october surprise of this was an lie and a hoax and many people knew it. >> i think you're hitting the nail on the head, and that is that durham had to know when he
after the election to push his russia story for the trial resumes on monday. griff: lucas tomlinson life force in washington. lucas thank you. now for more on this let's bring our political panel former white house official for the george w. bush administration west affront strategy founding partner ashley davis former of the hillary clinton national finance committee and senior communications counsel for the ashley, i'll thank you for being here. i look at the start they are part of the 2016 clinton team. i want to ask you directly, were you aware of this information was being released to that medium that was unvented? if not what is your reaction to what we learned yesterday? >> first well let me say robby is a standup guy the man of character. number two is not aware of this particular issue. but all of america was where people were look into whether or not there were ties between then kennett trump in russia but hillary was aware, the team was aware there is nothing unusual
[inaudible] griff: are right with god a sirens or alexandria hoff in pittsburgh, thank you very much. well, fallout from this weekend after hillary clinton's 2016 campaign manager robby testified in federal court friday that clinton directly proved giving what turned out to be discredited claims with a secret connection between donald trump and a russian banker to a friendly media source. lucas tomlinson has more what can you tell's request that is right hillary clinton former campaign manager testifying clinton herself personally approved they now debunked from russia storage two months before the presidential election in 2016. >> surprising he said on the standby think we all who are looking at this and can add two and two had a figure that at the clinton campaign peddled the story it would not give him with the approval of the candidate.
>> john: you have to wonder, did robby know it came from sussmann, watched through elias, i don't know if he knows, or knew of that connection. this is a curious development, though, one we will watch for new details. andy, great to see you, have a great weekend. >> thanks, you too. >> gillian: this is a fox news alert, president biden's interior secretary not answering whether gas prices are too high. take a listen. >> do you believe that gas prices are too high? >> completely understand the crunch that so many americans are under right now. i think that americans are still recovering from the terrible pandemic and there are a lot of other world events that are making things difficult for all of us. >> so it sounds you are unwilling to say gas prices are too high. >> we are doing all we can.
>> let's step back a little bit. how can the head of the campaign who is running the ticket spend $10 to $50 million funding this disinformation campaign and not possibly know about it? who is on the stand tomorrow? robby much. the hillary clinton campaign head and other people who ran the campaign testifying in the trial because though knew where the money was go than and she is still going to say i didn't know we were spending money on a fake -- no one is asking her questions. >> dana: they don't know if sussman will take the stand. >> highly unlikely. he would get crushed on cross examination. >> dana: very interesting. the new book is called the plot against the king, a children's book about the whole thing and the illustrations are good.
it's those students who are getting their way because people are afraid to stand up to them. >> rachel: robby, why with people so offended by the idea of american exceptionalism? i can't believe this is so controversial today. >> it shouldn't be controversial at all. we should talk about how great american is. that doesn't mean you can't ever criticize it or talk about the less savory aspects of our history, no one is saying that here they're want obligor to white wash something bad that happened to us. they don't want to talk about it that offends a far left progressive ideology. it would be really funny if it wasn't happening. >> rachel: robby, thanks for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure. >> rachel: democrats think it's time for nancy pelosi to be rewarded for her hard work. so much so that they have earmarked $200 million just for her favorite san francisco park. house republicans tried to block the proposal saying the money could be better used literally
this. you told me a couple days ago you had a breakthrough case of covid. what was it like and how are you feeling? >> i'm feeling completely fine. i was mildly sick with kind of a bad cold for about a day, day and a half, and i am vaccinated, so it was unfortunate that i got covid, anyway, but it was a very mild illness that was over, really, in just over 24 hours. i feel completely fine today. i credit the vaccine to help me with that. everybody should get it, but you shouldn't be so afraid if you're vaccinated. look at the numbers. you really don't have to be. >> it's all about risk tolerance and what your personal risk is. robby, maybe breakthrough is part fortunate problem. breakthrough implies rare. p breakthrough implies something went wrong. that's not really the premise of the disease. >> right, you'll end up in the hospital. news coverage almost seems to reflect that maybe cases, like
few people in the hospital, no deaths. people have been coveting this. >> if you're vaccinated. >> exactly. we could convert this to the flu if you're vaccinated. >> was the problem nine months ago when the vaccine was introduced, was the message not conveyed that, yes, people will still get covid but they'll not end up in the hospital? was there a communication failure eight months ago? >> i think there was an attempt to say that vaccines are not perfect. they're highly effective, very safe. we've repeated this over and over again, but i think there is an expectation that vaccinations be perfect that we don't really expect anything else to be perfect. we don't expect that of pills we take over the counter, so we have this much, much higher standard in our minds for vaccines that are just not realistic. >> robby, you're an example of
about it? there is a threat but less so if you're fully vaccinated. and we need more green areas than red. >> i think that's right. the way you transition from red to green is through vaccination and that's how we bring down that level of threat. >> so, robby, as we think about the headlines around covid, we're seeing lots of red headlines when they should actually be yellow or green. maybe not blue, but you know what i'm saying. bring the threat level down because it is down for the vaccinated. >> studies have shown that the media, and this is a criticism of right-leaning and left-leaning media, in america have tended to be overly negative about the pandemic even at times when that was not called for. in some sense it's unavoidable because bad news sells. news is things that happened, not things that didn't happen. things are better, nobody died, nobody got sick, i guess doesn't excite people in the same way, but really the media has to be more responsible about it or we're going to get exactly what