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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:24:00

i figured there would be time later on. but at this point we needed to figure out what we were going to do. i remember being quiet. i remember not really saying much. i just kind of went back into myself. this wasn't really my game. robert was the one that suggested -- >> i think we keep going. >> -- toward the ambush. >> it will be safer than to turn back. >> what about victor? >> we stay together. >> mark, are you happy with that? >> i'm scared. but this was something that i kind of hoped to encounter, a true, true, true test. >> okay. so we're all agreed. >> it was that important to me that i could deal with whatever it was down the trail. there was a lot of internal

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:54:00

we're paramilitary. what do you think about that? i said i would take the cigarette now. i just run my mouth off. it was a big joke. it became clear that they had gotten instructions to play along with this fark story line. and the joke really was on me but i laughed, too. once everybody laughed at me i became convinced that they thought we were completely harmless. robert and meg were down the river bank when they saw me. they were surprised to see me alive. tell us that we can go. i almost couldn't believe it.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:04:00

and i'm just all ears. i'm curious. >> that's a coincidence. i was just looking for a map of the darien as well. >> he introduced himself. >> robert. >> why are you so interested in the darien? >> he said he was a journalist. the woman gave us a set of aerial photographs. they all looked the same. it was just green. just trees. >> it's going to be a big help. >> you couldn't distinguish one from the other. when were you thinking of going? >> the next day or two. >> i think both of us were trying to figure out if it was a good fit to go together. so we agreed to meet up at his hotel. already i was thinking about if we were going to travel together, how this would go. >> i brought some maps of my own. >> my plan was to kind of go unnoticed through darien. but he was traveling with another woman who was my age. >> my friend megan. >> i'm like, you know, she is blond and six feet tall. at this point i'm like, well, there is no way we're going to be sneaking through the darien. >> we're just trying to figure out the best route.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:18:00

you'll swear you already walked by it. we camped at night and expected to be in colombia the following day. the next morning we woke up, we had breakfast. >> hey, robert, are you all packed? >> all packed. >> what about your hammock? >> and we continued. we knew that we were probably going to cross into colombia that day. right around noon, we decided to stop for lunch. and while we were eating, three men we knew from paya passed us. they were headed to the same village, and they were moving quite quickly. they had heavy bags, but they were moving much faster than we were. exchanged pleasantries and they were off. we knew we wouldn't see them again until we got there. so after lunch, we grabbed our stuff and we got back under way,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:38:00

it is? robert looks at us and said -- >> it sounds like a column of men coming towards us. >> and i listen, and it's just right there. of course. it's a massive amount of soldiers running towards us through the forest. and then the noise just rose to a level where the soldiers just opened up. robert's like get as far away from the muzzle blasts as possible. i have a real clear memory of trying to, like, bury my head in the jungle. and it ceased firing, and there was just silence. just complete silence. and then someone says --

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:08:00

it was really happening. we had a young boy that was our guide to the next village. we were on our way. the first couple of days were really rough for robert. he had like heat exhaustion. it was just really difficult keeping enough fluids in him. we were hiking between like 10 to 12 hours each day. portions of the trail really slow. we had to cut through brush. they weren't well traveled. we'd walk in riverbeds for an hour, and then suddenly our guide would skirt off on a very small almost like a game trail that you would never spot on your own. we walked for almost 12 hours coming into pucuro. it was dusk. and we startled the people there. it was just a really rare occurrence to have people coming

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:40:00

them. but then once you escape, where do you go? we didn't have provisions on us. then we really would have been on our own. frankly, we didn't have a lot of our own survival skills. then that evening another group of soldiers arrived. >> you recognize those men? >> they were the soldiers that went into panama. they had heavier mortars, russian squad machine guns. the commander that originally took victor reassures us that victor is going to be coming along any minute, and they demand all of our electronic equipment. they took our media, our passports, everything we had. the level of anxiety, it's gradually building. >> rapido. >> it was like grab your bag, get your stuff. we need to leave. as we are climbing out of this ridge line, robert and i began this conversation which was

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - FOXNEWS - 20150525:01:59:00

meeting. >> for the governor it's just a publicity stunt. he thinks it is a betrayal. >> (indistrict talking >> days later william h. roberts dies from a massive heart attack. >> the robert's version of events is intriguing evidence to support pat garrett's claim is hard to come by. the truth is we may never know for certain how bill ley the ki dies. what we do know is he became a killer. >> bowed de, b -- howdy, bob. >> he didn't murder the 21 men legend claims. he did kill at least 5 men in his lifetime. billy's way ward ruth living along the brutal violence of

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:25:00

monologue. i was thinking about the fact that maybe their first response was going to be to open fire. robert suggested that we speak louder. >> louder. say anything. >> so they would have ample opportunity before they shot at anyone. i was kind of reaching a bit of a breaking point. >> i said mark, what kind of movies do you like? >> keep talking, louder. >> after maybe just 15 or 20 minutes, we made our way up to a bluff, and robert i think actually said -- >> this would be a really good place for an ambush. >> and four soldiers materialized. they just stood up. short hair, young, probably all in their early 20s. and i remember very distinctly that the soldier just in front of me had a green bandanna and a single blue feather right in the middle. it was striking.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150525:23:06:00

>> we got in the boat, and there we were, headed into the darien. i didn't think there would be any real severe consequences. anything that i was going get into, i felt that i could get out of. i think we all felt that way. it would take all day to travel three or four miles. but we were definitely on our way. robert had a gps. but the gps was tough in that part of the world. we tried to get our maps to gel with the gps. we couldn't get the map to coordinate. it became very clear that this type of journey was impossible without a guide. we went up river all day, and we arrived at a native village, capati. at that time we met victor.

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