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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:13:00

>> medicare! medicare! medicare! medicare! >> that race turned into a proxy battle over the republican ryan plan to overhaul medicare. hochul defeated republican jane corwin in a three-way race. a wealthy democrat turned tea party candidate jack davis took 9% of the vote. in a sign of how high the stakes were, outside groups poured $3.2 million into the buffalo area district. and hochul got a call of congratulations from the vice president. the president tweeted congratulations as well. so what does it all mean? new york congressman steve israel is in charge of getting house democrats elected. he's the chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee and joins us now. congressman, thanks for being with us. >> thank you very much. >> well, let me get your reaction. do you think this defeat of the republican district in this race is a sign of things to come? >> oh, i think ts a very strong

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:14:00

sign of things to come. we said from the home the gavel came down on the republican decision to terminate medicare in order to fund tax cuts for big oil companies that we would hold republicans accountable for that plan in every congressional district every day from that day until the november 2012 elections. and we proved that point last night in new york 26. and we proved it not just with democrats but with independent voters, republican voters and seniors who supported a democrat because they rejected the republican plan to terminate medicare. >> let me ask you, obviously this country has big problems in terms of the debt. democrats, as you say, are ready to seize on this issue. paul ryan's medicare plan. i want to play for you an ad that has been released by a left-wing advocacy group talking about paul ryan's medicare plan. take a look. ♪

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:16:00

about us going into the 2010 elections. we're telling the truth about them. you don't need the visuals. you don't need the imagery. all you need to do is read chapter and verse of the ryan budget. it terminates the guaranteed medicare benefit. it turns it into a voucher system. it will cost senior citizens an additional $6,000. and it includes continued tax cuts for big oil companies. so notwithstanding what any ad may say and notwithstanding the spin on both sides of the aisle, the fact of the matter is that the ryan budget terminates medicare, and we're going to hold the republicans accountable for that idea. >> in terms of this special election where the democrat won an unseated or in a largely republican district, my question is, is there a chance that democrats are overnationalizing the results? i mean, there were three special elections i can think of. new york 20, new york 23, pennsylvania 12, democrats won them all. but if that were a sign of things to come, nancy pelosi would still be speaker. can you overinterpret these results?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:46:00

>> anytime joe biden is involved in something, i'm on joe's side. if joe can't get this done with that group, then nobody will get it done. but if you hear a politician of either side get on their hind leg and say we can do this without touching medicare, medica medicaid, solvency of social security or defense, just give a hee haw laugh and get them out of the building. >> and what about republicans who say and we can do it without touching the revenue side? >> let me tell you, if this country and my party is enthrall, that's a great word in lincoln's talk, if they're in the aarp, grover norquist and this country hasn't got a chance. that's where we are. >> what do you think about the way this medicare debate has played out? you know that congressman paul ryan has come forward with a plan to deal with the entitlement issue, reforming

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:17:00

>> this was, in my view, this ended up being a referendum on medicare. we're not going to overinterpret results. we needed 25 seats to take back the house. now we need 24. and we're going to pursue our plan in a very strategic, tactical, thoughtful way. we're not going to make decisions based on one special election in one district. however, the defining issue in that district and the defining issue across the country is going to be the republican plan to end medicare and fund tax cuts for big oil companies. that is what propelled independent voters and seniors. two groups of voters that democrats lost in 2010 to vote for a democrat in 2011. so that is the defining issue, and we're going to continue, as democrats, to fight for medicare in any congressional district no matter how high the hill, no matter how great the odds. that's what we did in 26. >> i want to bring in chuck todd traveling with the president in london. chuck, you've got a question.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:18:00

>> reporter: congressman, i have two, i want to follow up on something you said. so medicare, more than jobs is the defining issue of the next election, or is this specifically for house races? and second, can we ever expect medicare reform ever to happen if no matter what party tries to deal with it, it's going to get demagogued by the other side? doesn't this mean that basically both parties will throw up their hands over time and say, well, we can't touch it because no matter what, it cost democrats congress, and you guys clearly believe it's going to cost republicans. >> chuck, on your second question, we have said consistently that we will negotiate to improve medicare, to strengthen medicare and reform medicare. we will not negotiate to end medicare. the republican starting position was let's end it. let's terminate it. we have a plan for senior health care. it is called medicare. and we will not negotiate to terminate it. but we will talk about an

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:19:00

engaged constructively and responsibly in how it can be improved. just don't end it. on your first question, i think one of the reasons the democrat won in one of the toughest republican conservative districts in america was because of medicare but also because the republicans broke their promise. there's a sense of buyers' remorse. they promised to improve medicare, and then they voted to terminate it. and they promised to create jobs and haven't created a single job. haven't passed a single bill to create a single job. haven't helped small businesses. in fact, they've cut small business lending authority. and so on those two issues, medicare, the senior health care and jobs, they're 0 for 2, and that's why we won in new york 26 last night. >> congressman steve israel, chairman of the dccc, appreciate it. coming up next, fit to be tried? that's the big question in tucson, arizona, today. why the suspect in the arizona shooting rampage may never stand trial. plus, sex, lies and

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110525:13:47:00

medicare down the road in order to keep it solvent. but, of course, democrats have been hitting him over the head with it, saying that it essentially ends medicare as we know it. you know, both sides have engaged in scare tactics when it's come to medicare. what do you think about how the parties are conducting themselves on this issue, whether it be before the elections last year or how it's going now? >> well, children would be a word because if you think that you can get there without dealing with the biggest hunk, with medicare on automatic pilot and doing nothing with it, then i always say to people of the liberal bent, what do you love? well, i love this. i love culture. i love education. i love this. i love that. i say, pal, you won't have any of that because this other stuff is on automatic pilot and will eat up everything. and if you can't do something with defense, which is over two-thirds of the discretionary budget, you can't get there. so let's quit lying.

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