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social to not comply with a grand jury subpoena. that's a crime. and that was the kind of thing i was talking about it with joyce vance and other friends who were former prosecutors, that's shocking. >> shocking enough that action could be taken and you think might be taken? >> so it could come up in two ways. one in terms of bail conditions and sort of whether he's brought in and there's some restrictions put on him. but more to the point to your question on what's going to happen august 28th is judge chutkan, if you recall, said i have to protect the integrity of the judicial process in this case. if you continue to make these kinds of statements, i am going to factor that in in terms of speeding up the trial date because i need to get to this trial and have it protect the integrity of my process here and the jury here and the witnesses here. so to me, that is a gift jack smith is going to use and if judge chutkan is receptive, if

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part of the job. and the best you can do is ensure your own safety, your family's safety, ensure the safety of your staff, your witnesses and those that are in the courthouse. and i think from the letters to the sheriff, we've seen her do exactly that. and the letter that show wrote to her staff, we've also seen her take the high road. she is not going to be distracted. she's not going to get in the dirt and fire back. she's focused, as well she should be, on the integrity of this case. >> let's look ahead to next week when donald trump is supposed to be appear. is he going to be booked, right? is that the term i should be using? >> processed. >> he's not going to be arraigned, though. that differs from what we've seen in the past. doesn't it? >> yeah, it does. he's not going to be arraigned at all. is that what you're saying? >> an earlier guest said he would be a little bit later. >> he will be arraigned a little

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that's the way it works. other possible defenses, i think many of us are waiting to see the extent to which there would be a motion to remove the case to federal court. it's my understanding the case would still proceed in state court while a federal judge decides whether there are any federal defenses that those that had federal positions, the former president as well as mark meadows, should able to use as part of their defense, whether it's immunity or other things. we've done some research on that through the bookings report and do not believe that those would be successful arguments but, again, that's a decision that would rest with a federal judge if at some point in time if those motions are filed. >> it's not unusual, lisa, for a high-profile case to play out in the court of public opinion, right? not every 15 minutes, though, like we see here and on local radio station wabc, rudy giuliani was being interviewed

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also, it's noteworthy when you're asking about the reasons why coffee county who not only have cooperative gop chair down there in the county. we not only have the head of elections cooperating with trump. but we have this thing greg mentioned, which is really bizarre. it was rather that he didn't win enough in that county so he's really stretching here. >> frank, something unique here is also something that fani willis referenced last week in a letter to her staff to work at home for instance and to be really careful and not to put anything on social media about the case, that there was an actual commercial which blayne alexander says was being played widely in the georgia area. it's a political commercial against fani willis and her team. you expect there's going to be a

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of the constitution very much cuts the president out of that process for the best of reasons. of course, the president has a most interest in how the electoral college counts votes and so on so our founders wisely said hey, that's self dealing. you can't have a role here. that's unlike other parts of the role but not in the electoral college. second, it requires to move a case to federal court requires a federal defense and so far, trump's offered nothing that would come plausibly in it. and third, the supreme court has said that the standard to remove a case to federal court can't impose too great a burden on the states and here i think it undoubtedly won't. for the same reasons this maneuver was rejected in new york, i think it will be rejected here. >> andrew, you had some misgivings. >> we never disagree with neil.

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happen. so andrew, how much of that in georgia might depend on what we see from judge chutkan on august 28th? >> so, august 28th in the d.c. case is sort of the whole ball of wax. it is what is the date she is going to pick. and we are about to get on thursday the defense position. it's not going to be a surprise that their view is going to be after the election if not later. that's true for, i mean, most defendants don't want to go to trial. they want to put it off as far as possible. and we'll see jack smith's response. i think something that is a bit of a gift that was given to jack smith and frankly the judge if she's inclined to have a date that is prior to either the republican convention or the general election, is donald trump's continued attack on judges, on witnesses. let me just give you one quick example. he told a witness in a truth

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describe how she'll deal with this and deal with the defendant, donald trump, if this persists i've said before the d.a. seems to be called for a time such as this. she is a very knowledgeable, very tough and experienced prosecutor, and however this may be wearing on her personally, you will not see that. she is focused, she recognizes the obligation and opportunity that serving as the elected district attorney presents in this moment, and she is not going to let the citizens and residents of fulton county down. she and her team are focused, but they are focused on the facts and the law and understanding what they need to do to be able to put this case together and present it to an ultimate jury at some point in the future. so, again, unfortunately many of us who had had high-profile cases have had to deal with attacks, certainly not anything to the level that she's dealing with, but sadly that has become

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describes as exonerating evidence in frauder vote in 2020. the ballots in georgia were counted three times and the results were the same. he lost. >> the fulton county d.a. has set next friday as a deadline for which mr. trump and 18 others have to surrender and one by one, the others charged are coming forward. david schaffer released a statement insisting he is totally innocent. former trump attorney kenneth cheese breaux says the charges were unfounded and rudy giuliani said the real criminals are the people who brought this case. >> but georgia officials are talking today. the state's republican governor, brian kemp, hitting back pretty hard at trump by tweeting that the election was not stolen and no one has come forward in court to prove that it was.

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to timing? >> reporter: well i think that's one of the things we're watching. apologies for the very heavy rainstorm that just blew in here and knocked out our shot. one, fani willis laid out what she said she hopes to see, which is six months before she ultimately brings this to trial. precedent has shown that's not the case. laura's been talking about it throughout the day as have i. when you talk about somebody with this many defendants. when you talk about a situation where there are so many people who are kind of lumped together, rico charges, it will likely take a long time to bring to trial. i think there are two examples that give us a strong indication. she's currently trying another high profile case here in fulton county against alleged gang members. they're still trying to seat the jury and those indictments were handed out about a year ago. then another case where she prosecuted a number of atlanta

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these tapes prove to be invaluable. you think about the classified documents case where he's on tape bragging about allegedly a classified document he has in his presence that's not supposed to be shown outside of of a setting. also, of course the carroll tape. i think these are just catnip for prosecutors pause it's helpful for a jury to hear him in his own words. if you go back to the raffensperger tape, hearing him and his intonation is different. hearing how he's actually applying the pressure and not just saying go ahead and dig up some vote, but the context around those statements is really important and valuable for a jury to hear. >> one of the fascinating things is if this goes to trial as we think it will and they play those tapes, donald trump having to listen to himself andrew and wanting to respond and put it in some different context than the

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