Citizens in the district. - citizens in the district. looking citizens in the district. looking at citizens in the district. looking at the - citizens in the district. looking at the fact - citizens in the district. | looking at the fact that citizens in the district. - looking at the fact that there are now three indictments in the past four months that the former president is facing, as we know in new york, must be mentioned, and miami comeau sub indictment and now here in washington, dc we are possibly leading a further indictment in the state of georgia. also on efforts to subvert the election results there. allen, coming to you, how difficult is this going to be for the former president to face these trials and also run an election can? it looks like we don t have him with us at the moment. stephanie i will put the question to you. i stephanie i will put the question to you. i think he is atoin to question to you. i think he is going to juggle- question to you. i think he is going to juggle. we - question to you. i think he is going to juggle. we have - question to you. i think he is i going to juggle. we have seen going tojuggle. we have seen every going tojuggle. we have seen every single time that he has been every single time that he has been caught up in the legal system, been caught up in the legal system, he uses it as an opportunity to fund raise. he will continue to do that. the republican party will continue
That he actually knew the truth. that is he actually knew the truth. that is really he actually knew the truth. that is really important - that is really important analysis there. thank you for making that clear for us. i want to get your take on what we will see on thursday, stephanie, with this arraignment in particular how people see the former president use this for his campaigning. i use this for his campaigning. i think we will see a serious proceeding. what i do not think we witt proceeding. what i do not think we will see is the amount of backtash we will see is the amount of backlash that donald trump has been trying to spur up with his supporters. i think for weeks now. supporters. i think for weeks now, actually months, he has been now, actually months, he has been talking about how angry his supporters will be at every turn his supporters will be at every turn when his supporters will be at every turn when he faces legal jeopardy and what we have seen with the jeopardy and what we have seen with the previous indictments, white with the previous indictments, while people have not been happy while people have not been happy about it, there has not been happy about it, there has not been a happy about it, there has not been a return of the level of vitriot been a return of the level of vitriol that we saw on january the 6th vitriol that we saw on january the 6th i vitriol that we saw on january the 6th. i think people, his supporters, may not be heavy on what supporters, may not be heavy on what is supporters, may not be heavy on what is going on, but they will not go down that road again. so i do not go down that road again. so i do not
How donald trump and his inner circle allegedly try to pressure mr pentz to stop congress that they can stop we all remember the day. the danger that mike pence was put in when he had those writers shall a shouting hang mike pence, hang mike pence stop but he has pivoted tojoe biden. he says he will have more to say after the government s case after the government s case after reviewing the indictment makes the point that the former president is entitled to the presumption of innocence which is correct. but he goes on to pivot to joe is correct. but he goes on to pivot tojoe biden and says that, his candidacy means los less attention to paid and he mentions hunter biden again. a statement in which clearly trying to carefully, not criticise donald trump too much, but of course we were expecting to hear from much, but of course we were expecting to hearfrom him much, but of course we were expecting to hear from him at some point. expecting to hear from him at some point- expecting to hear from him at some point. interesting to dig in that little some point. interesting to dig in that little further. - some point. interesting to dig in that little further. thank i in that little further. thank you so much, nomia iqbal, in front of the courthouse and also to our panel. stephanie
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on his legal defence, i almost| wonder if that could be maybe on his legal defence, i almost. wonder if that could be maybe a bargain wonder if that could be maybe a bargain where wonder if that could be maybe a bargain where he wonder if that could be maybe a bargain where he says, - wonder if that could be maybe a bargain where he says, look, i wonder if that could be maybe a . bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the charges bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the charges and bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the charges and i bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the charges and i will- bargain where he says, look, drop or reduce the charges and i will get - reduce the charges and i will get out of reduce the charges and i will get out of the reduce the charges and i will get out of the race, reduce the charges and i will get out of the race, to reduce the charges and i will get out of the race, to spare - reduce the charges and i will get out of the race, to spare us- reduce the charges and i will get out of the race, to spare us all. reduce the charges and i will get| out of the race, to spare us all of this national out of the race, to spare us all of this national embarrassment, - this national embarrassment, because otherwise this national embarrassment, because otherwise it this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is good this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is good to this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is good to be this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is good to be a this national embarrassment, because otherwise it is good to be a nasty- otherwise it is good to be a nasty next otherwise it is good to be a nasty next couple otherwise it is good to be a nasty next couple of otherwise it is good to be a nasty next couple of years. otherwise it is good to be a nasty next couple of years. next couple of years. really interesting next couple of years. really interesting insight - next couple of years. really interesting insight you - next couple of years. really interesting insight you have j next couple of years. really - interesting insight you have shared with us tonight going to be nasty. thank you so much for giving urinalysis on the programme tonight. stephanie, i want to come to you now giving your analysis. the fact that the former president has been up that the former president has been up to raise a significant amount of money off the back of the previous indictments and possibly this one as well. what do you make of that? the worst the situation becomes for donald worst the situation becomes for donald trump, the more outrageous
Fundraising. i mentioned the poll numbers. i want to echo what david said. donald trump lives in his own reality and he lies casually but he s very, very good at it. he used to teach me, stephanie, as long as you keep repeating something, it doesn t matter what you say. i will bring us back to 2019 when hurricane dorian was coming. he wrote on a map that it was going to hit a part of the country that it wasn t really going to hit even after being briefed by the national weather service. this is something he s done over and over and over, and i really hope that people will understand this is just what he does. george, the federal judge has handed down strong sentences. a washington, d.c., jury could be less friendly to trump. how do they mount a defense? i think they re going to have to i don t know what they re going to do, frankly.
Insider evidence. people who were in the presidents inner circle who spoke with him behind closed doors. what did they tell him and more importantly, what s the presidency in response. importantly, what s the presidency in response- in response. really interesting to net our in response. really interesting to get your take- in response. really interesting to get your take- i in response. really interesting to get your take. i think in response. really interesting to get your take. i think we - in response. really interesting to get your take. i think we have - in response. really interesting to get your take. i think we have to | get your take. i think we have to let you go but thank you so much for joining us. i will bring in the rest of our panel freight back in. stephanie, i had been wanting to ask you as well about your take on what we heard from the special counsel, ]ack we heard from the special counsel, jack smith and how he is going to pursue this case. i jack smith and how he is going to pursue this case. jack smith and how he is going to pursue this case. i thinkjack smith was solemn- pursue this case. i thinkjack smith was solemn. this pursue this case. i thinkjack smith was solemn. this is pursue this case. i thinkjack smith was solemn. this is a pursue this case. i thinkjack smith was solemn. this is a serious - was solemn. this is a serious matter. i think the brief press conference really focused on the facts of what he intended to show, it shows that he is trying to pull the politics out of this and make sure that, he even mentioned that there is a presumption of innocence, it is important to show that this is a serious legal proceeding. we are
Hampshire, a small plane plunged into the water near hampton beach. you can see lifeguards pulling the fallen plane ashore. in this case the pilot actually escaped uninjured. amazing recovery there. now to new developments this morning in the long island serial killer case. the suspect s wife breaking her silence as rex heuermann prepares to appear in court this week. nbc news senior national correspondent stephanie gosk is joining us with the latest. i can only imagine, stephanie, what his wife must be feeling. i know. it s pretty remarkable. a lot of people are wondering that about the family. you have to imagine some of that pressure pushed this statement out. rex heuermann s wife is asking for privacy and normalcy in her neighborhood, where the public, investigators, media, all descending upon that neighborhood as her husband is accused of multiple murders and
pretty incredible. now possibly looking at very, very serious prison time. those security footage pleas carry, i believe, 20 years as a maximum. so, he s got very serious decisions to make. thank you, stephanie. i appreciate it as always. next, a top republican strategist who was all in on ron desantis now saying the problem is not the campaign, it is desantis himself. ed rollins is outfront next. we are learning the accused gilgo beach serial killer s firm did work for both target and the trump org. that s not all. so, what did he do and where did all the money go? we have new reporting ahead. that s my boy. stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty.y. liberty. this is your summer to smile. to raise your glass and reconnect. to reel in the fun and serve up great times. to help u get ready your aspen dental te is celebrating
Hyperbolic playing. but you know what, stephanie? i now think there was some truth to it because reagan and lincoln never had this bizarre cult of personality that donald trump has built around the country, to the point that for some of his supporters, it is nearly religious and messianic. if that s what we are contending, with and it s something we have not experts in modern-day politics. my last question before we go, miles, you are the cofounder of the forward party, right? in theory, this idea, a third party, a third party candidate, america wants something different wouldn t a third party candidate, like what no labels is, doing only help donald trump? i helped run the forward party, i m not currently affiliated with it anymore. i want to see more choice and competition in our democracy. but one of the last things that i made sure of before i stepped back from leadership at forward was saying we must publicly commit to not run a presidential candidate. and that organization did so. and i have grave fears about the no labels folks,
Then in 2020, that official revealed himself as miles taylor, former department of homeland chief of staff. now, with a new book out, under his own name, taylor has an urgent new warning for americans. i m happy to have miles taylor here tonight. he s also the cofounder and senior adviser of the forward party. the new book is called blowback, a warning to save democracy from the next trump. and he s got a new podcast called the whistleblower s inside the trump administration. miles, i m so glad you are here. what do you want people to know most about a possible trump s second term? well, stephanie, i think what s important is in the first term, what trump wanted to do ended up being very scattered, and not being too reductionist about it. it was a bit like a cat with a ball of yarn when you walk to a deal in the office, constantly disrupted, not a lot of focus. he knew he wanted to take a wrecking ball at the government, but by no means did he have a clear agenda what s worrying