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Here is just a snapshot of how the leader of the republican party defended himself while attacking both democrats and the justice system. >> these people are sick. they are sick. they are deranged. i talk about the enemy, the afc down the enemy from within, but the enemy from within are doing damage to this country. that's all coming out of washington. you may think it's break take a look at who open the case. >> joining us is ruth ben-ghiat professor of history at nyu and author of strongmen. sheep publishes a newsletter on sub stick. residential historian michael and msnbc legal corresponden...

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Real time that the criminal court is nothing like the court of public opinion join me now to discuss this is a daily commons and host of the show that dean of the dollar show. a democratic strategist for the obama campaign as well as sirius xm hose. and former federal prosecutor and legal affairs,'s politico. this is a former present who reportedly used to receive a folder full of positive news about himself and press clippings may be up to twice a day. how do you think this reality is setting in for opinions of the jurors in their regular process of a criminal court trial getting underway? >>...

Analyst and cohost of the Msnbc Podcast how to win 2024. Ruth benghiat, History Professor at nyu, and author of strongmen, mussolini to the president. And charles coleman junior, msnbc legal analyst, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, and the host of the charles coleman podcast. Thank you all very much for spending part of your Saturday Evening with me. Clare, your reaction to that stunning Back And Forth between Trumps Lawyer and the member of the appeals court. Well, im ashamed to say he is from missouri. Im ashamed that. Well frankly, and the right has to be very disappointe...

Particular evangelicals, who were talked about this, with whom we've spoken, in the new york times has written about, and tim alberta has written entire book about. they are believing this line about, i'm being prosecuted for you. you and i talked about this, we start seeing these things. and i thought, why would anybody believe this? because nobody else is being prosecuted. they made the connection to jesus christ dying for their sins, and donald trump being prosecuted for them. and it is working. >> reporter: i believe it's been strongmen, because they believe in him. that is the import of t...