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jeopardy. >> the norwegian government plans to build a power line through that land to supply western europe's largest liquefied natural gas plant. but neat of herders called the sami are fearful that this construction will scare them away from their grazing areas. disrupting the animals as behavior could do cheaply enough or so we create does not congruent yes, to cut emissions is great. >> and all the talk about the green energy sounds great to me. >> but to start digging in the wilderness and call that a green transition that doesn't make sense to me on this slant, female reindeer give birth and foreign eat grass and other growth to build up enough weight to survive the cold winter months the power line will connect the natural gas plant to the nash power grid helping reduce greenhouse gas emissions. norway has pledged to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, at least 55% by
before we go, today is earth day with the focus on environmental initiatives and goals to both protect the world's resources and mitigate the impact of climate change. the mining sector produces the raw elements that are crucial to our modern world, computers, cars, smart phones and all sorts that we use in day to day life rely on minerals mined from the earth. in fact, 44% of all co2 emissions from industry come from producing steel and non—metallic mineral products like cement, according to mit. but metals are also key in our transition to green energy, solar panels and electric cars need aluminium or lithium, so how do we get the balance right? it is extremely challenging. live now to rohitesh dhawan, president and ceo, international council on mining and metals. good to talk to you. tell us, first of all, a day like today,
regular transition that's going to take place. they can put people in place that can change regulations, for example. it's their attitude and their goals that are scary because they're training people at the same time. they're training them in regulations, in how you change regulations, in how you deal with the bureaucracy. i mean, a lot of this is training individuals that will go into the administration as well. and this is scary. i do want to say something about emergency rooms. there's a case before the supreme court, it's the idaho case in which idaho, which has almost no abortion, is stopping people who have all sorts of medical problems with their pregnancy from coming into an emergency room. there's a federal law that makes it very clear that everyone that
because most of the things that they're recommending have to be approved by congress. you can't change the name of a department. you can't eliminate a department. you can't eliminate a program without permission from congress because they set up departments, cabinet level departments. this one is scary because it's so outrageous. but have you heard about the american first policy institution? there's another one that's close to trump that has a bunch of people that worked in the white house that are also doing the same thing and before the election will probably have two or three more transition groups identified. will have two or three, four, maybe, and then the regular transition group will be put together and they'll all pile on and try to influence the ongoing transition. but this one is just crazy. it's the heritage foundation. >> but doesn't their intent worry you?
produced high—quality work and i absolutely am passionate about making sure people understand what you produce. we are sitting here in this wonderful gallery, there was a protest not so long ago, people shutting the place down and you feel that has been detrimental to the cause? we've got to view this as a transition, we are not going to switch off this stuff in the most successful transition is the transition that everyone supports so that bit of it needs work. fine transition that everyone supports so that bit of it needs work.— that bit of it needs work. one of the former— that bit of it needs work. one of the former prime _ that bit of it needs work. one of the former prime ministers - that bit of it needs work. one of- the former prime ministers knocking around at the moment liz truss says the climate change committee is a business quango and is far too political, are doing work that no one else worries about. what do you say to that that the committee should not exist? liz say to that that the committee should not exist?— say to that that the committee should not exist? liz truss is the elected politician _
say to that? we that be the solution, what would you say to that?— say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we _ say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we have _ say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we have for— say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we have for a _ say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we have for a long - say to that? we do have gas and oil in the uk, we have for a long time, | in the uk, we have for a long time, the most interesting thing of all about the story of oil and gas when it comes to climate change is that the reserves we have an uk largely will be done by 2050. the fact is we won't have a thing left by 2050, therefore we have to replace it with something cleaner. instead of focusing on the transition, the genuine transition toward something cleaner my experience of the last couple of years with politicians on all sides of all sides of the gilded wasting time on things don't matter like oil and gas licenses post that there is a marginal benefit to energy security in the country in having new oil and licenses but it doesn't change the geology the country. doesn't change the geology the count . , , . . country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners _ country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners have — country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners have been _ country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners have been a _ country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners have been a bit - country. sometimes deeper climate campaigners have been a bit holierl campaigners have been a bit holier than thou sometimes, maybe they haven't played the organ properly, and you yourself were criticised for suggesting in an e—mail that you got some in your team to use technical language to try to explain something
is no doubt about that. but it hasn't shifted the polls. doesn't look like it was a genius idea at the time? that is a cunning bit of political fancy footwork, possibly. i think they were in complete shock they had won this by—election because they were astonished and they thought here is a great opportunity, but as laura says, fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally. what fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally.— dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? _ dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they - dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they are . labour on climate? they are promising clean energy by 2030, which to a lot of people might sound like a good thing on the tin. the shadowjustice secretary emitted this morning they will have to have reserves of gas, which they don't like saying so much, it doesn't fit in with the slogan. but the question to them has always been for the last couple of months, how do you pay for this big expensive transition if they are no longer committed to the £20 billion, and also given the giant size of the promises they are making, how do you get there, in
does it look like it was a genius idea at the time? that is a cunning bit of political fancy footwork, possibly. i think they were in complete shock they had won this by—election because they were astonished and they thought here is a great opportunity, but as laura says, fundamentally, it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they are promising clean energy by 2030, which to a lot of people might sound like a good thing on the tin. the shadowjustice secretary emitted this morning they will have to have reserves of gas, which they don't like saying so much, it doesn't fit in with the slogan. but the question to them has always been for the last couple of months, how do you pay for this big expensive transition if they are no longer committed to the £20 billion, and also given the giant size of the promises they are making, how do you get there, in this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our plans
>> i am not very alarmed, because most of the things that they are recommending have to be approved by congress. you can't change the name of a department, you can't eliminate a department. you can't eliminate a program without permission from congress, because they set up cabinet level departments. this one is scary, because it's so outrageous. but have you heard about the american first policy institute? there's another one that is close to trump that has a bunch of trump b's that work in the white house that are also doing the same thing, and before the election, will probably have two or three more transition groups identified. this is pure trump. we have two, three, four, maybe. and then the regular transition group will be put together and they will all pile on and try to influence the ongoing transition. but this one is just crazy. if the heritage foundation.
to do. >> but they can influence the regular transition that's what take place. they can put people in place that can change regulations, for example. it is their attitude and their goals that are scary, because they are training people at the same time. >> they are training in regulations, how you change regulations, and how you deal with the bureaucracy. a lot of this is training individuals that will go into the administration as well. and this is scary. i do want to say summing about emergency rooms. as a case before the supreme court, the idaho case, in which idaho -- which has almost no abortion -- is stopping people who have all sorts of medical problems with their pregnancy from coming into an emergency room. there is a federal law -- and