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ukraine in right now. so there's room to work if he wants to do that. but i think, as usual, he's going to -- probably shouldn't go any further. but i think it will hurt him badly. >> sounds like you are offering some way out here. off ramp and it sounds like what it is, is at least an informal assurance that nato is not going to take in ukraine any time in the next few decades. and it sounds like you're saying we would never put nuclear weapons there. he also wants us to move all of our nuclear weapons out of europe and not have troops rotating through the old soviet bloc. do you think there's space -- >> no. no, there's not space for that.. we're going to increase troop presence in poland or romania, et cetera if he moves. we have a sacred obligation to defend those countries. they are part of nato.
so there is room to work if he wants to do that. but i think, as usual, he's going to -- i probably shouldn't go any further. but i think it will hurt him badly. >> it sounds like you were offering some way out here, some offramp. it sounds like what it is is at least an informal occurrence that nato is not going to take in ukraine at any time in the next few decades. and it sounds like you are saying we are not going to put nuclear weapons there. and he also wants us to move all of our nuclear weapons out of the old soviet bloc. do you think there is space there? >> no. there is not space for that. the idea -- we are going to increase troop presence in poland or romania, et cetera, if in fact he moves. we have a sacred obligation to
it comes as uk businesses and organisations are being urged to boost their their defences in case cyber attacks linked to the conflict over ukraine have an impact here. nato secretary—generaljens stoltenberg says that the alliance was ready to increase its troop presence in eastern europe and was watching very closely as russia moves soldiers and weapons in belarus. we are also ready to step up, as we actually now do, our military presence in the eastern part of the alliance to prevent any misunderstanding or room for miscalculations about nato's ability and readiness to protect all allies. our chief international correspondent lyse doucet is in kyiv. what is the government in the ukraine making of this war of words? well, you mentioned how the
we're certainly not prepared to send u.s. forces to ukraine so we've got to handle this with a little bit of care and we still ought to be looking for an acceptable diplomatic effort. >> so let's close on that point then. you mentioned putin's cost/benefit analysis. president biden has to make a similar cost/benefit analysis. there's this exchange of papers. russia has questions. the united states is sending written response. nato is responding a written response. one thing putin wants is the united states to say ukraine will never join nato. he wants biden to concede that u.s. troop presence in certain countries would come down or at least not increase. is there something biden can quote/unquote, give putin that is not such a major concession that it's embarrassing? >> well, the united states has already said -- is not going to welcome ukraine any time in the visible or foreseeable future. i think we're very open to various types of arms control
countries in particular, members of nato are welcoming news that the u.s. may increase its troop presence there. let's bring in kylie atwood. i want to delve deeper into the ukrainian response about this reduction in u.s. staff at the embassy in kyiv. of course, it follows a similar move by russia just a week prior. >> yeah, that's right. the ukrainians aren't happy about this. they think this is an overreaction on behalf of the united states and our reporting is that president zelenski told if secretary of state blinken so much before this decision obviously was made but there was an interagency decision on this front and we are told that the totality of the situation with russia continuing to build up its troops along the ukrainian border basically came down to a situation where the united states felt like they needed to get the wheels turning on beginning to pull folks from the u.s. embassy in kyiv. so what they're doing now is allowing some u.s. personnel at the embassy to leave and they
major allies in the west would vote to bring ukraine in right now. so there's room to work if he wants to do that. as usual, he's going to -- i probably shouldn't go any further. it will hurt him badly. >> sound like you're offering some way out here, some off ramp. sounds like what it is at least informal assurance that nato is not going to take in ukraine any time in the next few decades and sounds like you're saying we would never put nuclear weapon there's. he also wants us to move our nuclear weapons out of europe and not have troops there. you think there's space -- >> no, there's not space for that we won't permanently station -- we'll increase troop presence in poland, romania if he moves. we have a sacred obligation to
forces in eastern europe if there had not been an invasion yet. but that wasn't what the president was saying at the press conference. saying if putin invades, they would bolster troop presence in poland. they talked about if they move, you would see the u.s. fortify nato allies. that's what is under consideration. president biden was briefed only at camp david this weekend. the options that he has. the idea that it is not a shift. it is a change because if they do end up going forward with this decision and you see the troop presence in latvia, lithuania, that's on putin's door step and that's what he has been trying to avoid and complaining about. it would be a much more forceful approach by this white house, this biden administration, compared to the more restrained stance they had where they were trying not to provoke russia before. it seems like the calculus has shifted. >> thanks to all of you. i want to bring in retired
europe. >> what we're telling them to do is to be ready to go on a shorter time line than what they were before. we are not deploying them now. we are not saying diplomacy is dead. >> reporter: up to 8500 u.s. troops now on high alert. if biden increases troop presence, that close to russia's door step, it would amount to a major shift in his approach. after last week he said a troop build-up himpgnged on an invasi. overnight, the state department ordering family members of staff to leave the u.s. embassy in ukraine and encouraging americans not to travel there. warning russian military action would severely impact the embassy's ability to provide services including assistance to u.s. citizens departing ukraine. biden considering the new moves after the british government accused russia of plotting to installing a pro russian leader in ukraine. >> this is very much part of the
government in ukraine as the kremlin considers whether to invade and possibly occupy that country. a memo from the british foreign office says moscow may be considering a former ukrainian politician as a candidate to lead the puppet government. tensions between russia and ukraine have been growing for months as moscow built up a sizable troop presence at the border leaving many to fear an invasion was coming. cnn's nic robertson is in moscow. what more do we know with this? >> this is the british government saying that the kremlin is currently considering to install a pro-russian leadership in ukraine to replace the existing one as they are
the second is that the dialogue between the us and the russians over security continues and this morning the russian foreign minister said the latest us proposals had a resilience, grains of rationality, on issues of secondary importance. that might be faint praise but it is at least praise. nato secretary—generaljens stoltenberg says that the alliance was ready to increase its troop presence in eastern europe and was watching very closely as russia moves soldiers and weapons in belarus. we are also ready to step up, as we actually now do, our presence in the eastern part of the alliance to prevent any misunderstanding or room for miscalculations about need to's ability and readiness to protect all allies. our chief international correspondent lyse doucet is in kyiv.