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they want border security, but not for a wall. they're even saying that really the president's numbers are low for a wall. they're talking really $70 billion. they don't know why he's saying $5 billion. so they say this is just absurd. so both sides are walled off, ana, they are walled off. and the twain shall not meet at this point. but the question is when will this end? the president is going to camp david with his staff tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. the question is will he concede? nancy pelosi said to me yesterday, she said the only way that there's compromise is once the government is open. and it's cyclical. he wants the wall, the president wants the wall to reopen the government. democrats are saying, no, they keep going in this circle. when will the circle end. >> we will watch and see. thank you, april ryan. good to have you with us. we're going to talk to a furloughed worker next hour. i'll ask her what she thinks about the president's comments,
in this -- in this disaster and has done remarkable work and continued to do remarkable work day in and day out. not -- not for the benefit of liberals. for the benefit of children and for the benefit of america's reputation across the globe. >> yeah. i think it's worth saying, linking all of this together this morning, you've said kind things about two very different american institutions. one is ronald reagan. the other, aclu. rarely do the twain get linked together, and pointed out as working in alliance, but that's what the country at its best -- this may sound sentimental. hell with it. it's actually true -- the country at its best is this combination of forces that may or may not like each other. that may or may not work
historian yourself? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, history never repeats itself, but as you know, twain said it rhymes, or perhaps you can say it echoes. the corruption now is sort of different, it's sort of money grubbing, greedy corruption, to make money, emoluments as they call it, to make money out of their office. you see the same type of coverups and, frankly, lying. when somebody who is the president of the united states says things that aren't sure, that should still unnerve us a bit. and trump is much different from nixon, he kind of does it in public, which is try to obstruct justice. but it's still very unnerving that you're breaking down the rule of law, especially when republicans had always been strong about the rule of law, always been strong against corruption, always, you know, been strong on character, which is the most important issue when we select our leader. >> do you think, in 30 seconds
and we try to at least feel we have some character. and so i think most americans, you know, certainly most republicans aren't cruel, they aren't corrupt, yet they're watching this happen. and you're starting to see the support seep away, i think. >> we're very proud of calling ourselves the most generous nation on earth, in fact. 44 years ago today, richard nixon lifted off the south lawn for the last time. >> the helicopter. >> yes, and gerald ford talked about our long national nightmare. do you see, do you entertain any echoes of anything nixonian in what we're witnessing now, as a historian yourself? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, history never repeats itself, but as you know, twain said it rhymes, or perhaps you can say it echoes. the corruption now is sort of different.
aren't corrupt, yet they're watching this happen. and you're starting to see the support seep away, i think. >> we're very proud of calling ourselves the most generous nation on earth, in fact. 44 years ago today, richard nixon lifted off the south lawn for the last time. >> the helicopter. >> yes, and gerald ford talked about our long national nightmare. do you see, do you entertain any echoes of anything nixonian in what we're witnessing now, as a historian yourself? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, history never repeats itself, but as you know, twain said it rhymes, or perhaps you can say it echoes. the corruption now is sort of different, it's sort of money grubbing, greedy corruption, to make money, emoluments as they call it, to make money out of their office. you see the same type of coverups and, frankly, lying. when somebody who is the president of the united states
in a sad way, that twain and the people watching marked a loss of a national leader that held the potential to unite this country, especially working people. the nbc documentary, hosting this sunday night, 9:00 eastern. >> i was invited to ride the funeral twain. ju -- train. you saw the children and the people crying and some people carrying flowers. >> when you see the imagery of his body passing on the train, they are wealthy and poor and black and white and young and old. it is amazing how many different types of people that my grandfather touched. >> headliners, robert f. kennedy
shanai, she would have voted for president trump if he cast a ballot in 2016, twain from canada, even though he was offensive he seemed honest, i would have voted for a feeling that it was transparent. the musician apologized for the comments in series of tweets saying she regrets answering the interview president. don't go out there, it's too dangerous, don't do it, penn state administration banning club from going outside, camping, hiking, canoeing, they are just too risky for students forcing group leaders to shut down outdoor trips next semester. outing clubs, 98-year-old organization, one of the longest running in penn state history, what do you call it if you can't go outside? that's not fake news, by the way. if you do have fake news a media
there who was married and has been separated from her husband, under the same roof, because there is this concept of sexless marriages which is once the couples have had their children, the husband stays in the marriage, the wife moves into basically the children's room and never the twain shall meet. not in a love relationship anymore. and they each kind of do their own thing. and now women are saying to themselves, well, hang on, we want a little bit more than just, you know, producing the children and then being sort of left on the shelf. to that point, they really are trying to break through the centuries of societal pressure, cultural pressure, where in japan there's this thing called skinship. in other words, you know, touching of skin. they don't do it. they don't shake hands. they don't hug. they don't kiss. they don't say "i love you." this stuff doesn't happen, either inside or outside.
>> well, a lot of what they're saying, let's say in the technical sense, probably is correct. i mean, they're looking at the ground, et cetera. but i think where you get the difficulty is who exactly are they hitting, and that's where russia would maintain they're hitting isis, and the western countries would say they're hitting opposition, moderate opposition, as they say. and never the twain shall meet, because russia continues to say, look, the moderate opposition is the people who you saw dancing next to the dead body of a russian aviator. that is almost exactly a quote i heard at the foreign ministry today. they're saying show us your moderate opposition. these are the guys, you know, that we think are shooting people who are helicoptering, i'm sorry, taking a parachute to the ground. so there's a complete lack of agreement on who these people are that they are hitting.
i photograph and it is perfect. the other side is always a mess, she wrote. she consider itself important to have a frige full of la qua and coconut water for pictures. she said writing this makes me realize how insane it is. it is not just the money. people's experiences are taking a backseat to how it will play on the internet. do a google search forego pro proposal and not only will you find go pro proposal.com, but thousands of other entries. people are hiring professional crews to hire their question popping. you will be in debt before the engagement. all to get clicks and likes. we are living double lives. one is a prince and one is a pauper. sadly, never the twain shall meet. michael, what if this is you?